Take a break from Christianity rather than obeying disobey?
Are you speaking of taking a nap as those that went out because there were not of the true us ?????
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Take a break from Christianity rather than obeying disobey?
Are you speaking of taking a nap as those that went out because there were not of the true us ?????
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I really wish you watch your vid in post # 75 a couple of times before you reply to me. It is quite ironic.
Did Jesus die? Yes or No? Where is the mercy, grace and forgiveness on Him?
I am already chasing Butch around multiple trees. I am not going to also chase you. As always your posts are cringe, and as though you do not grasp the point being made.
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Garee, you are missing the point made. Just because they go out from us does not mean we give up on trying to reach them and bring them back to the fold.
It would seem you're misunderstanding.
Not of us does not mean some of the fold left to take a nap.
In that way if one does go out to take a nap. The Good Shepard goes out and brings her back to the very us that did not go out from us. Scripture defines the us.
Luke 15:4What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Through the gate. No fence Jumping. Thats for nap time.
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Simple. God resurrected him from the dead, because his death was unjust and Jesus did not deserve death (not needing Forgiveness).
What wonderful Mercy and Grace God poured out on Jesus to correct this injustice - declaring that the teachings of Jesus were Truth above all other.
It says so right here:
Him ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. {he did not deserve it}
(Acts 2:23-24 KJV)Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
(Romans 1:3-4 KJV)Put aside your own ideas, accept what is written.
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I would offer the virgins that slept and did not get oil.
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Yeah, you gave an example. What does that prove?
Are you suggesting that God has sinned?
I think you're getting dizzy trying to figure out your doctrine. You said, "God sent Jesus as a Lamb to the slaughter. How is that not punishing Him?"
You made the claim, so the onus is on you to prove it. Did you God send Him or did Jesus offer?
Do you know what moving the goal posts is? I don't think you do because no one is moving the goal posts.
No, Penal Atonement argues that Jesus' death was to satisfy the wrath of God. In Penal Atonement His death is seen as a legal transaction. Again, the wages of sin is death. Christians sin and Christians die. If Jesus paid that penalty, why do Christians die?
And yet every Christian dies.
No, that's what the Reformers taught.
You obviously don't understand the Ransom or Classic view as it is vastly different than Penal Atonement. Vastly!
It's not sane. To say that God tortured and killed His Son, is not sane. Not only is it not sane, but it also impugns God's Character. In another post you listed the signs of false teachers. You can bet your bottom dollar that any doctrine that impugns God's character is a false doctrine.
On a final note, there is nothing in this post about your flawed premise.
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What are they? Legal, legal, legal! Sorry, I couldn't just scroll by.
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Cringe = I can't answer that!
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Legal?
What?
For something to be legal it must have, and exactly follow, rules by which "legal" is established. I'm not sure it's even possible to codify compassion.
So I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at.
Kindly,
Rhema
No oil no Holy Spirit .They went out from the true us.
Legal as in. If there is no loving law, there can be no trespass.
Codify compassion called mercy.
God magnifies the written word above all his attributes. He himself subject to it. If he does not show mercy, he cannot be God . Two kinds of mercy. Mercy and Mercy seasoned with Grace
Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
James 2:12-13;So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
Law of liberty. Mercy mixed with grace for the believer. Mercy for the unbeliever just like they were never born in the first place. Suffering the daily pangs of hell is over.
Two kinds of fear. One that marks iniquities no forgiveness (Satan) And the kind of fear Mercy mixed with grace. . plenty of redemption.;And he shall redeem born again Israel from all his iniquities.
Psalm 130:1-8 Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord.;Lord, hear my voice: let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications.;If thou, Lord, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand? But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.
;I wait for the Lord, my soul doth wait, and in his word do I hope.;My soul waiteth for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning.Let Israel hope in the Lord: for with the Lord there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
;And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
LOL . .Amen no mixing recipe of the of Christ's Chef salad .in order to make the parable known . . no gospel rest.
Put the Apron on. Blend the things seen the temporal historical dying with the eternal invisible things of faith, a labor of love
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Note. . .dying historical things temporal .
Note. . Living things the eternal
2 Corinthians 4:18;While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Hebrews 4Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith(the power of God unto salvation) in them that heard it.
Mix until the faithful understanding becomes clear
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Lol I was being sarcastic!
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Illegal? Mercy mixed with grace as judgement .YES.
Mercy,
Grace,
Forgiveness,
All that illegal stuff.
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1Pe 1:18 knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers,
1Pe 1:19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.
Empty, foolish, unprofitable, and vain traditions and rituals. The Jews had added innumerable religious burdens and empty ceremonies which they held to be essential to salvation.
1Pe 1:19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.
Empty, foolish, unprofitable, and vain traditions and rituals. The Jews had added innumerable religious burdens and empty ceremonies which they held to be essential to salvation.
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And now all ya have to do is offer up a human blood sacrifice, right?
Hi Curtis,
I'm not sure you quite understand what "redeemed" means. (LUTROW)
(From the Liddell Scott Lexicon)
II. Pass., to be released from an obligation
We are released from all the Jewish obligations their leaders had made up by following only the teachings of Jesus.
God bless,
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