Why Christians Are Not Ashamed of Their Sin?

[TheRootOfDavid]

How come some Christians are not ashamed of their sin?

Is it because they have lost the fear of the Lord?

Is it because they love their sin?

Is it because they think God now accepts it?

 

[Bill]

How come some Christians are not ashamed of their sin?

Is it because they have lost the fear of the Lord?

Is it because they love their sin?

Is it because they think God now accepts it?

It is because of new teaching that has been evolving over these past 30 years.

The evolved teaching is that when Jesus died on the cross he wiped out all sins you commit, past, present and future.

This is one of many false teachings

If you think about it, it is saying, a person can accept Jesus, then rape a person and still be forgiven. Hog wash!!!

Accepting Jesus as Lord means all the sin to that point have been forgiven, now you need to work on being perfect before God.

Repentence of sin is an ongoing process, just like learning to grow in God is an ongoing process

 

[watertolive]

It is because of new teaching that has been evolving over these past 30 years.

The evolved teaching is that when Jesus died on the cross he wiped out all sins you commit, past, present and future.

This is one of many false teachings

If you think about it, it is saying, a person can accept Jesus, then rape a person and still be forgiven. Hog wash!!!

Accepting Jesus as Lord means all the sin to that point have been forgiven, now you need to work on being perfect before God.

Repentence of sin is an ongoing process, just like learning to grow in God is an ongoing process

This isn't true brother.
A person going to rape someone later, didn't receive the Lord to begin with.
We are to come into obedience and will before He ever allows us to come to a complete repentance and be baptized with His baptism.

Jesus will not die for us, but once.
We either earnestly died in Him on the cross, or we didn't.
He knows who belongs to Him.
Heb 6:4-8
And check out about wilfull sin in Heb 10:26-31

When he receives us, we are forgiven.
We are already in obedience and walking righteous or He would not receive us, yet.

We are dead in Him, by Him, for Him, or we're not.
Many fall at the cross but to no avail, and fall away.
There is indeed a spiritual baptism and manifestation that takes place when the Holy Ghost moves in.
He moves in to a person walking in righteous obedience already.
Then we start training and preaching almost immediately, because the Spirit is feeding us without fail.
The letters on the page are just alive as He is in our heart.

I am not a sinner anymore, Christ already took those, I am now a debtor to the cross if I step out of line.
The old man has died, or it has not.
Immediate, in an instant, manifestation happens.
If you can't receive this it's because you not there yet.
I saw a lot, had visions, spiritual dreams, heard his voice audible and within, before spiritual manifestation took place.
But I walked obedience to the Word of God.
He doesn't give passage to one who has not earnestly seeked Him, His kingdom.
Praise God, I don't.
Getting saved and being forgiven is not a passage to go sin.
That's in the word as well. And very foolish.

God first always.

 

[watertolive]

How come some Christians are not ashamed of their sin?

Is it because they have lost the fear of the Lord?

Is it because they love their sin?

Is it because they think God now accepts it?

Because they are not being properly taught.
Because they never feared Him to begin with.
Yes, they false teacher makes them comfortable, not stepping on their toes, no conviction of their sin.
The preacher of God accepts it, God must too.

All these are serious problems in most churches.
They're afraid they will lose the congregation, and if they leave there's no money coming in.

 

[Bill]

This isn't true brother.
A person going to rape someone later, didn't receive the Lord to begin with.
We are to come into obedience and will before He ever allows us to come to a complete repentance and be baptized with His baptism.

Jesus will not die for us, but once.
We either earnestly died in Him on the cross, or we didn't.
He knows who belongs to Him.
Heb 6:4-8
And check out about wilfull sin in Heb 10:26-31

When he receives us, we are forgiven.
We are already in obedience and walking righteous or He would not receive us, yet.

We are dead in Him, by Him, for Him, or we're not.
Many fall at the cross but to no avail, and fall away.
There is indeed a spiritual baptism and manifestation that takes place when the Holy Ghost moves in.
He moves in to a person walking in righteous obedience already.
Then we start training and preaching almost immediately, because the Spirit is feeding us without fail.
The letters on the page are just alive as He is in our heart.

I am not a sinner anymore, Christ already took those, I am now a debtor to the cross if I step out of line.
The old man has died, or it has not.
Immediate, in an instant, manifestation happens.
If you can't receive this it's because you not there yet.
I saw a lot, had visions, spiritual dreams, heard his voice audible and within, before spiritual manifestation took place.
But I walked obedience to the Word of God.
He doesn't give passage to one who has not earnestly seeked Him, His kingdom.
Praise God, I don't.
Getting saved and being forgiven is not a passage to go sin.
That's in the word as well. And very foolish.

God first always.

Whether they received the Lord or not is unknown. However there are many churches that teach the concept that once you're baptized you don't have to worry about anything. It goes along with the one saved always saved crowd

 

[Bill]

Because they are not being properly taught.
Because they never feared Him to begin with.
Yes, they false teacher makes them comfortable, not stepping on their toes, no conviction of their sin.
The preacher of God accepts it, God must too.

All these are serious problems in most churches.
Their afraid they will lose the congregation, and if they leave there's no money coming in.

Exactly, they are not being properly taught

 

[watertolive]

Whether they received the Lord or not is unknown. However there are many churches that teach the concept that once you're baptized you don't have to worry about anything. It goes along with the one saved always saved crowd

Yes I agree,
That's not true as well.

 

[watertolive]

Exactly, they are not being properly taught

It seems to me there is no sin conviction in the messenger's preach these days.
The Holy Ghost told me, many are plugged in but there not being charged.
The Holy Ghost is the charger.
And there's a break in the cord (one accord).

God first always

 

[joestue]

This isn't true brother.
A person going to rape someone later, didn't receive the Lord to begin with.

Is this because christians dont sin, or because you dont believe they will commit certain sins on your arbitrary list?

 

[watertolive]

Is this because christians dont sin, or because you dont believe they will commit certain sins on your arbitrary list?

No, read the whole that was written.
They have not come into obedience of God to begin with.
And because of this;
They have not received God's forgiveness, nor the Holy Ghost.
Once one comes to true repentance, we are no longer sinners to the cross, but debtors to the cross.
I have been forgiven, freely forgiven, now go and sin no more.
If I sin, now I'm a debtor to the cross for that sin I have committed. For their is not further repentance for me.

Not everyone can receive this but it's right there in the already
written doctrine.

Consequences for that sin will be paid for by the one that sinned; not the cross of Christ.
Understand?

I strong suggest, if someone undergoes the spiritual manifestation of the Lord and has been given the Holy Ghost, do not, DO NOT RETURN TO THE SIN NATURE OF THE FLESH.
I can not state it any clearer then that.

God first always.

 

[watertolive]

A stern WARNING....
Do not sin, once one has received the Holy Ghost.

I'm not saying one can't, they indeed, can.
But I strongly suggest, one does not yield to commit sin.
Put on Christ, and never step away from Him.

If one does, I pray they have the "faith" to endure the punishment, upon their return back to Him.

God first always.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

How come some Christians are not ashamed of their sin?

Is it because they have lost the fear of the Lord?

Is it because they love their sin?

Is it because they think God now accepts it?

What makes you think they're even Christians??? Born Again Christians are infilled by the Holy Spirit, and have a constant witness internally of what's SIN, and what isn't.

The Conscience isn't worth SPIT as a "guide", since it can be, and is "Seared" when an unsaved person is involved. If the Holy SPirit indwells (as he does ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS), He's not so easily "put off".

 

[Bill]

What makes you think they're even Christians??? Born Again Christians are infilled by the Holy Spirit, and have a constant witness internally of what's SIN, and what isn't.

The Conscience isn't worth SPIT as a "guide", since it can be, and is "Seared" when an unsaved person is involved. If the Holy SPirit indwells (as he does ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS), He's not so easily "put off".

So born again Christians can never sin, are they perfect?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

So born again Christians can never sin, are they perfect?

SIlly Question!!! Being AWARE of sin, and not committing SIN are two different things.

 

[Bill]

SIlly Question!!! Being AWARE of sin, and not committing SIN are two different things.

It's not a silly question, it's based on what you're saying before. And my question to you is simply can Born Again Christians sin?

If they cannot sin, that means they never swear, they're always polite especially in heavy traffic. They are always loving to people who are gay and to people that have other beliefs such as Catholics and satanists. It means that they never are judgmental.

Now maybe you have been able to overcome all these things. But that would be really rare.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

What makes you think they're even Christians??? Born Again Christians are infilled by the Holy Spirit, and have a constant witness internally of what's SIN, and what isn't.

The Conscience isn't worth SPIT as a "guide", since it can be, and is "Seared" when an unsaved person is involved. If the Holy SPirit indwells (as he does ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS), He's not so easily "put off".

Why do Christian men allow their wives and daughters
to wear face paint and cut their hair like a man or change the color of their hair?

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

Why do Christian men and their children and their wives
fellowship and be friends with them of this perverted world?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

It's not a silly question, it's based on what you're saying before. And my question to you is simply can Born Again Christians sin?

Absolutely!! Born again Christian can SIN like anybody else. What they CAN'T DO is claim that they "didn't know".

What I said before is that a Born again Christian has been infilled by the Holy Spirit, and so can't claim NOT TO KNOW when they're sinning.

Simple as that.

Why do YOU sin???

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Why do Christian men allow their wives and daughters
to wear face paint and cut their hair like a man or change the color of their hair?

What make you think ANY OF THAT is "Sinful"??? Sounds like "Clothesline holiness" to me!!! Time was when the Assemblies of God were a judgemental "One strike and you're OUT" denomination that thought EVERYTHING was SIN, and made their women look like anachronistic freaks. An Influx of Charismatics back in the '80s took care of a lot of that stupidity.

 

[TheRootOfDavid]

What make you think ANY OF THAT is "Sinful"??? Sounds like "Clothesline holiness" to me!!! Time was when the Assemblies of God were a judgemental "One strike and you're OUT" denomination that thought EVERYTHING was SIN, and made their women look like anachronistic freaks. An Influx of Charismatics back in the '80s took care of a lot of that stupidity.

Bob, thank you for making my day.