Why do protestants do catholic traditions?

[MedicBravo]

My family knows my stance as a Christian. Some of my cousin's support or are LGB. As such instead of wanting clarification they've bought into the lies and keep their distance.
Disagreement is not hate.
A sister-in-law (brother's wife) is a better Christian that I am.
I keep my circle of people small and close. Sadly, many I know will never change and no amount of talking about it all is going to change them. My hope is that my actions b/c of being a Christian will sooner than later, show them God.
Boxed cake mix and ingredients are cheap. All the wasted money is better used elsewhere. For kids, 99% of those toys will be broken, lost, forgotten, and/or trashed. I'm not going to go all "1984" and force people to not do it.

 

[Garee]

However, scripture is silent with regard to anyone observing either one.

Thats why they call them oral traditiions . The 4th of July is another one that does not do dispite to the fullness of God grace.

 

[rstrats]

Thats why they call them oral traditiions . The 4th of July is another one that does not do dispite to the fullness of God grace.

I merely mentioned it in case there are some who think that it does.

 

[Sue D.]

Thats why they call them oral traditiions . The 4th of July is another one that does not do dispite to the fullness of God grace.

I'm trying to figure out what you mean by "that does not do dispite to the fullness of God grace.". Referring to the 4th of July.

 

[Garee]

I'm trying to figure out what you mean by "that does not do dispite to the fullness of God grace.". Referring to the 4th of July.

Thanks for the reply .I can try .Hope it makes sence ?

I would offer. There must be heresies as personal opinions or personal commentaries amongst us called oral traditions of men or private interpretations. .

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

None are Judge- able unless they do despite to the fullness of Christ's grace the cost of salvation. Although the 4th of July is not founded on the bible it remains an oral tradition same principle .

Halloween based on Catholicism as false prophets can cause night mares for little ones .

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Catholicism does despite to the fullness of grace .They teach as a law of the fathers as oral tradition of men that a Queen of heaven they named Mary is the mother mercy, the mother of us all, while the rest of the planet receives a unknown remnant of grace and they must continue to suffer and wonder, suffer and wonder with no end of salvation in sight , even after they take their last breath .

That oral tradition as a law of the fathers is a damnable heresy.

But not the idea of celebrating a birthday even if it is not the right day . no way. . have fun. . get the family together . . blow hard.

The accuser of the brethern accuses Christians day and night to include cerimonial celebrations . It get the focus of the gospel .

 

[Sue D.]

1 Corinthians 11:19. " For there must also be factions among you that those who are approved may be recognized among you." The context is conduct at the Lord's supper. Communion. In the church in Corinth there were problems within the church teachings that were not quite right. And that is why the preacher needs to have a more informal time for Bible study with the people. Discussion so the pastor can point out scripture that answers questions that come up.

Back in those days -- oral tradition was considered fact. It wasn't Helter skelter ' did you hear about That?"

Regarding the RCC -- thet is not the one true church. The Vatican is not scriptural. Lots of false teachings within that belief system.


But still curious about your "dispite to the fullness of God's grace". The "fullness of God's grace". Please explain more.

 

[Garee]

1 Corinthians 11:19. " For there must also be factions among you that those who are approved may be recognized among you." The context is conduct at the Lord's supper. Communion. In the church in Corinth there were problems within the church teachings that were not quite right. And that is why the preacher needs to have a more informal time for Bible study with the people. Discussion so the pastor can point out scripture that answers questions that come up.

Back in those days -- oral tradition was considered fact. It wasn't Helter skelter ' did you hear about That?"

Regarding the RCC -- thet is not the one true church. The Vatican is not scriptural. Lots of false teachings within that belief system.


But still curious about your "dispite to the fullness of God's grace". The "fullness of God's grace". Please explain more.

Thanks again can rtry

Fullnes of grace is the price of salavation Nothing can be aded to it or taken away from it .

Catholics accedit that to the queen of heaven as the mother of mercy teaching she alone received it All other members receive a unknow amount of grace and are given .the reponsibillity to honor this queen of heaven by suffering wondering , suffer wonder over and over with no end of faith the salvation of thier soul. I would call it the false doctrine of wondering.

Belivers receive ithe fulness when they first are empower to hear his voice and empowered to confess Jesus is Lord .

That Queen of heaven is the same lying spirit in the Old testement under another name . It came about because of a womans liberation demonstration .The women libbers demanded equal Gods . Not his and hers as one God .

God is neither man or woman .

 

[MedicBravo]

@Garee Pretty sure God is male.
He is only referred to in male terms. He created man first. Adam a male human. He created a hierarchy in all things. God - Man - Woman.
He made everything and let Adam experience loneliness for some time as "It is not good for man to be alone."
Man came out of/created by God. Woman came out of and was created by God. Difference.
He brought Eve to Adam not him to her.
God and Jesus are male. It makes sense the trinitarian God is male.

 

[Bill]

Thanks I would offer.

Our body is skin that covers our spirit Flesh is the largest organ .

A body without a spirit is dead never to rise to new life. The covering returns to the lifeless field of clay while the spirit given under the letter of the law death (thou shall surely die it returns to that Holy Father of all spirit life who gave it under a law .(death)

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Lazarus died but he did not really die only his flesh died. And a person who lives in Christ is alive forever

 

[Bill]

Thanks again can rtry

Fullnes of grace is the price of salavation Nothing can be aded to it or taken away from it .

Catholics accedit that to the queen of heaven as the mother of mercy teaching she alone received it All other members receive a unknow amount of grace and are given .the reponsibillity to honor this queen of heaven by suffering wondering , suffer wonder over and over with no end of faith the salvation of thier soul. I would call it the false doctrine of wondering.

Belivers receive ithe fulness when they first are empower to hear his voice and empowered to confess Jesus is Lord .

That Queen of heaven is the same lying spirit in the Old testement under another name . It came about because of a womans liberation demonstration .The women libbers demanded equal Gods . Not his and hers as one God .

God is neither man or woman .

Catholics teach that Mary was sinless and that sinlessness was the grace that was given to her by God. The reason for the sinlessness has to do with the fact that she carried Jesus in her womb.

This is all based on the scripture referring to sin and the presence of God.

She could not have had sin within her to carry Jesus in her womb

 

[Bill]

@Garee Pretty sure God is male.
He is only referred to in male terms. He created man first. Adam a male human. He created a hierarchy in all things. God - Man - Woman.
He made everything and let Adam experience loneliness for some time as "It is not good for man to be alone."
Man came out of/created by God. Woman came out of and was created by God. Difference.
He brought Eve to Adam not him to her.
God and Jesus are male. It makes sense the trinitarian God is male.

There is no pretty sure about it God is male.

You have God the Father and Jesus his Son. And the Holy Spirit is , the love that is given from the Father to the Son and from the Son to the Father.

The Trinity is One it is male

 

[Garee]

@Garee Pretty sure God is male.
He is only referred to in male terms. He created man first. Adam a male human. He created a hierarchy in all things. God - Man - Woman.
He made everything and let Adam experience loneliness for some time as "It is not good for man to be alone."
Man came out of/created by God. Woman came out of and was created by God. Difference.
He brought Eve to Adam not him to her.
God and Jesus are male. It makes sense the trinitarian God is male.

God is Spirit. The one Spirit of truth .he has no physical body and there is no fleshly infalible interpreter that stands betwen God not seen and mankind seen call a daysman .

Today called a Pope.

Job 9:23 32 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.

Jesus our brother in the Lord as a member of the bride the church, the new creation. Male to represent mankind ( men and woman as one creation ) both called sons of God. .

Timothy by Paul a surgate mother espoused Timothy as a chaste virgin bride married to her husband Christ .

Beleivers brothers and sister all togthger as a new creatures are called the mother of us all ( Galatian 4)

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

 

[Garee]

Catholics teach that Mary was sinless and that sinlessness was the grace that was given to her by God. The reason for the sinlessness has to do with the fact that she carried Jesus in her womb.

This is all based on the scripture referring to sin and the presence of God.

She could not have had sin within her to carry Jesus in her womb

Thats what they must teach as a law of thier fathers .Veneraable men that lord it over the understanding of the word of God lording it over the non venrable. . taking his understanding way .

No man can serve two teaching masters as one good lord . They must look to the courupted flesh of the Son of man .who declared his own flesh as profited for zero, nothing. nada .

Not what sola scriptura the armor of God teaches us .

Mary our sister in the Lord, her flesh profited like the Son of man for nothing zreo , nada.

God is not a man .

 

[Sue D.]

God is Spirit. The one Spirit of truth .he has no physical body and there is no fleshly infalible interpreter that stands betwen God not seen and mankind seen call a daysman .

Today called a Pope.

Job 9:23 32 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.

Jesus our brother in the Lord as a member of the bride the church, the new creation. Male to represent mankind ( men and woman as one creation ) both called sons of God. .

Timothy by Paul a surgate mother espoused Timothy as a chaste virgin bride married to her husband Christ .

Beleivers brothers and sister all togthger as a new creatures are called the mother of us all ( Galatian 4)

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

For one thing , the Job passage uses the word 'mediator'. He wanted to restore his relationship with God. Later in the New Testament that is fulfilled in Jesus Christ. 1 Timothy 2:5.

Also - the Jesus you are referring to is the Son of God. Not just another man.

No popes.
Those verses are there, but taken out of context.


Your other comments - it's not Biblical. So - what is the source of your theology. How do you get Timothy as a chaste bride????

 

[MedicBravo]

@Garee God IS a male spirit "being". No human mind can comprehend what God is we have a good idea.
He may not be a "man" but He is not female in any part.

 

[Garee]

@Garee God IS a male spirit "being". No human mind can comprehend what God is we have a good idea.
He may not be a "man" but He is not female in any part.

Signified as if Spirit was male .God is not a man (Job 9:33)

God does not have parts God is the one good Spirit of Truth .He uses the term father as the witness of one God the invisable head .Head of a family or nation .whenever two or three gather under the hearing of His faith. The creation of a familiy of famaily or the Chistian nation made up of every nation where two or three gather under his power .
He comandmed the the two be fruitfull and mutiply .Again two represent the witnes of God greater than the winess of man one.

 

[Garee]

For one thing , the Job passage uses the word 'mediator'. He wanted to restore his relationship with God. Later in the New Testament that is fulfilled in Jesus Christ. 1 Timothy 2:5.

I would offer. Eternal Holy Spirit not seen is the one mediator betwen God not seen and man seen .We are warned in 1 John 2:28 of thse who say we do need a man called a daysman to teach us rather than the Holy Spirit working within the belivers to teach, guide comfort and bring to our memorry the things before .


Like Job replied God is nether a man and nither is theye any infalible interter set betewn God not seen and mankins seen . Job 9: 33.

Even the Son of man Jesus when bowed down to refused to be alled good teaching master as Lord he would never santition the postion of a Pope (daysman

)Mark 10:16-18 King James Version16 And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them. And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

The Son of man Jesus never claimed to be God or a daysman (Pope)

Also - the Jesus you are referring to is the Son of God. Not just another man.

Sons or daugther of men (mankind) become sons of God . What we will; be when we receive our new incoruptible bodies no one knows .The Bible does say as new creatures neither male nor female, Jew nor gentile it why the whole church is called the bride not just females but tow woring as one creation the niture that was lost in the begiginnig . .

1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Timothy is used as a testemony to the law . paul signified as a mother (the mother of us all spoken of in galiains 4 the church or chate vigin bride .as those who have not chasted after other gods.

Paul signified as a mother..

Galaitins 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

Galaitins 4: 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Having formed Christ in Timothy. Paul a a surrogate mother espouses Timothy to Christ as a chaste virgin bride .

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.


The Old testament speaks of the bride in the same way . She is called by a new name which he named in Acts. Christian .a more befiiting name as the bride made up of all the nations .Christin with no other meaning added ." Residents of the city of Christ prepared for his wife the church named after her founder and founder Christ. "

Isaiah 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Isaiah 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

 

[MedicBravo]

@Garee I see what you're doing.
God is not a "man" but He....HE is male.
You've stated the same thing twice.

 

[Sue D.]

Scripture has the Godhead / God the Father , Jesus Christ the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Jesus Christ was born into this world into the Jewish culture as a male. He died in the cross to take away our sins. He was buried and rose again from the dead on the third day. After 40days he ascended back up to heaven . He became our mediator between us and God the Father.

All the passages you used are part of God's Word -- but application of them is a bit faulty.

Scripture has to be taken in it's intended context. And then applied.

 

[Garee]

@Garee I see what you're doing.
God is not a "man" but He....HE is male.
You've stated the same thing twice.

Thanks that was not my intention

God represents as a Man .God is not a man God s a Spirit . A spirit has not flesh and blood .

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.