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Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?
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Yes, but there are different "versions" of the Trinity...some right, and some wrong. For example, many claim Christophanies in the OT, and when they do that, they demonstrate their ignorance on the subject, because a Christophany is defined as an appearance of Christ AFTER His death and resurrection - it has no place in the OT.
Jesus did exist before Creation...as Yahweh God. When the verses that people use in trying to prove OT Christopanies are fully examined down to the original languages, many of them have been butchered in translation and give no support to the idea that Jesus existed before His incarnation as a separate being from Yahweh.
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I believe The “Biblical Text” of “Holy Scripture” teaches that “JESUS” who is The “Christ of GOD” is “The SON of GOD” and “The Son of ADAM [man]!
For He is 100% ADAM and “100 % GOD! At The same Time HE has The POWER to Walk in His “ humanity“ or Step into HIs “ DIVINITY“ anytime He please.
For He is a “son of Adam” and “The SON GOD!
For the word Adam means “man”!
Modern day religion terminology is nothing But a “Stumbling Block” for those who have come up another way
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So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
I would proclaim more, but know how Customary, many prefer regurgitation, Than to come out of The Nest to get more
God is 100 % God. He is not a man as us.
He has no form as the eternal Spirit. . the one source of truth or source of faith (as power)
His truth sets us free not the Son of man Jesus dying flesh
Not 100% a creation as the Son of man .
God cannot create another God. The second . . Let there be and its testimony was God would have a mother and father beginning of days and end of temporal life
God cannot create God .
Jesus the Son of man did the will his father who yoked with the father worked in his powerless body of death to both reveal the will the father and empower him to perform it to the good pleasure of the un-seen Holy Father .(Walking by faith as it is written )
Philippians 2: 13-14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings
Jesu the Son of man did the will of the father without murmuring .like some do like Jonas
What applies to the powerless Son of man Jesus our brother in the Lord applies to us .
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
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I am not being funny.
But I am going ask you a serious question.
Did you every make it to high school and Graduate?
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I had to finally put him on ignore because I think his drugs affect his thinking capability. Plus he can't seem to understand simple truths.
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What a shame for you to say that, especially to someone like plough boey. lol smh
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I can only handle so much...(fill in the blank). I wasn't talking about plowboy, but he has come close because he is rowing the same boat as garee...
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So ploughboy makes more sense to you than garee? Something we don't agree on. I just don't like anyone saying they aren't going to discuss with another anymore. Too many people here trying to say they don't want to discuss with me. Why be on a discussion site then? However, ploughboy likes to insult and I have to spend too much time trying to decipher. I like garee he seems like he is a decent guy.
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You saying that to him? lol
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Lol, have ever heard of The insanity of Luther? Or the mental problems of “Charles Haddon Spurgeon”, the depression of “Jonathan Edwards” and Jesus family Thought he was a “Lunatic”
If you knew what I knew! You would have mental problems too. And stay clear of this world’s medications!
Reality of This world is a real “Trip”!most everybody is living in a illusion, and walking In “Darkness”! If the Light comes on In their “Spirit” they going Need A “JESUS” matter of Fact, when The LIGHT comes on, you need “A TRIUNE GOD” every step you take!
Most are in The Dark, if knew what I knew, you keep your behind at home and would not Venture out at Night!
And sleep with one eye open!It might look like a duck, but I got news for you “it ain’t a Duck!
It ain’t about being a holy roller and speaking in tongues
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This world is not “Betty Crocker” or Emily Post!
If you think, these people on earth are “ innocent“ kind and sweet, you are going to have great Big Surprise! When GOD take That “Make Up” Off! That little Innocent baby! Going to make you a “Believer”! You talking about a Horror Story, you have not seen nothing yet! when GOD take That “Restrainer” that “ restrains“. Wooo Jesus, I hope I be “Light Years Away from Here”!
When that Restrainer is remove, you ain’t thinking about mama, daddy, son, daughter, cousin, uncle, Auntie, my wife, my husband, grandma, grandpa, dog, cat, I ‘m telling you “The TRUTH”!
GOD did not make The Lake of Fire for nothing! He got Hell for a good reason. And they cannot get out of there! And you will not want them to get out of there
You might be sorry they are in there, I tell you one thing you will not want to join them.
If you think, these people on earth are “ innocent“ kind and sweet, you are going to have great Big Surprise! When GOD take That “Make Up” Off! That little Innocent baby! Going to make you a “Believer”! You talking about a Horror Story, you have not seen nothing yet! when GOD take That “Restrainer” that “ restrains“. Wooo Jesus, I hope I be “Light Years Away from Here”!
When that Restrainer is remove, you ain’t thinking about mama, daddy, son, daughter, cousin, uncle, Auntie, my wife, my husband, grandma, grandpa, dog, cat, I ‘m telling you “The TRUTH”!
GOD did not make The Lake of Fire for nothing! He got Hell for a good reason. And they cannot get out of there! And you will not want them to get out of there
You might be sorry they are in there, I tell you one thing you will not want to join them.
No is it a requirement for believing God . Since he empowers simple ones to do His will according to His perfect law that does work in these powerless bodies of death .
Psalm 19:7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple
I am going ask you a serious question. Who empowers you to believe and perform the good will of God ? Can it be accredited to a high school education ?
Does being taught by the venerated ( feet of Gamaliel) make them Christians ? Saul had all the right teaching credentials needed , equaling a college education .
Acts22: 3-5 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished
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I remember when I was young. I would preach about “Hell”, the congregation would be scared, they would be so quiet all eyes be looking at me, they would jump sometimes, then all doing the week I would hear reports people men women aAnd kids would have nightmares about hell, they could hear me preaching they would be jumping up in the bed Hollering “JESUS”! The reason I could preach it strong, I had vision of Hell, burning but not like the Fire in the World, a different kind of Fire! Burning your Soul but not consuming it!. And your Soul mind remember all of Your Sins and your Sins are “ tormenting“ you, and you cannot escape them eating you away? No peace no sleep, you turn over this way , you turn that away, you getting in a Fetal position, for a moment but no peace, being Tormented, you hear the WORD of GOD that warn you down through years before you got there and how it pleaded with you, warning after warning, and those pleasure you thought was pleasures but now those pleasures are tormenting you!
I better stop.
One time I was in a “Travel Center” in New Mexico, some how a conversation got started and some people start talking about hell or Revelation I cannot remember.
But I started to talk about Hell and The Jewish Historian “ Flavius Josephus!
Every body in that place got quiet. “Roman Catholics”, Lutherans, pentecostals, Methodist, spaniards, Mexicans , comanches, Navajo s, White , blacks, Atheist, men, women! Custodians, I had them, And would not let them go! A dramatise that message, I do not think they have ever heard a “Biblical Orator”! And GOD was at Work! The HOLy GHOST Terrorise those folks! Even The Religious, and The ATHEIST!
One man followed me out the door, He said I never heard nothing like that before about the Bible tell me more!
I better stop.
One time I was in a “Travel Center” in New Mexico, some how a conversation got started and some people start talking about hell or Revelation I cannot remember.
But I started to talk about Hell and The Jewish Historian “ Flavius Josephus!
Every body in that place got quiet. “Roman Catholics”, Lutherans, pentecostals, Methodist, spaniards, Mexicans , comanches, Navajo s, White , blacks, Atheist, men, women! Custodians, I had them, And would not let them go! A dramatise that message, I do not think they have ever heard a “Biblical Orator”! And GOD was at Work! The HOLy GHOST Terrorise those folks! Even The Religious, and The ATHEIST!
One man followed me out the door, He said I never heard nothing like that before about the Bible tell me more!
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Sounds like you are describing the daily suffering of mankind living in a powerless body of death called hell. Its appointed for all man to die once according the the letter of the law (death )I remember when I was young. I would preach about “Hell”, the congregation would be scared, they would be so quiet all eyes be looking at me, they would jump sometimes, then all doing the week I would hear reports people men women aAnd kids would have nightmares about hell, they could hear me preaching they would be jumping up in the bed Hollering “JESUS”! The reason I could preach it strong, I had vision of Hell, burning but not like the Fire in the World, a different kind of Fire! Burning your Soul but not consuming it!. And your Soul mind remember all of Your Sins and your Sins are “ tormenting“ you, and you cannot escape them eating you away? No peace no sleep, you turn over this way , you turn that away, you getting in a Fetal position, for a moment but no peace, being Tormented, you hear the WORD of GOD that warn you down through years before you got there and how it pleaded with you, warning after warning, and those pleasure you thought was pleasures but now those pleasures are tormenting you!
I better stop.
One time I was in a “Travel Center” in New Mexico, some how a conversation got started and some people start talking about hell or Revelation I cannot remember.
But I started to talk about Hell and The Jewish Historian “ Flavius Josephus!
Every body in that place got quiet. “Roman Catholics”, Lutherans, pentecostals, Methodist, spaniards, Mexicans , comanches, Navajo s, White , blacks, Atheist, men, women! Custodians, I had them, And would not let them go! A dramatise that message, I do not think they have ever heard a “Biblical Orator”! And GOD was at Work! The HOLy GHOST Terrorise those folks! Even The Religious, and The ATHEIST!
One man followed me out the door, He said I never heard nothing like that before about the Bible tell me more!
There will be no re-trial or double jeapordy .That would do despite to the fulness of grace, the cost of redemption of God
No sufferings after death
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Here we go again.
Rev 20:10; Then the devil, who had deceived them, was thrown into the fiery lake of burning sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Rev 14:9; Then a third angel followed them, shouting, “Anyone who worships the beast and his statue or who accepts his mark on the forehead or on the hand
Rev 14:10; must drink the wine of God’s anger. It has been poured full strength into God’s cup of wrath. And they will be tormented with fire and burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and the Lamb.
Rev 14:11; The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever, and they will have no relief day or night, for they have worshiped the beast and his statue and have accepted the mark of his name.”
Matt 25:45; “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’
Matt 25:46; “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”
The word "eternal" here in verses 46 is the same word, both times.
αἰώνιος
aiōnios
ahee-o'-nee-os
From G165; perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well): - eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began).
If there is no eternal punishment, then there is no eternal life.
Jude 1:7; just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
Luke 16:23; "In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and *saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.
Lukr 16:28; for I have five brothers—in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
Matt 13:42; and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matt 13:50; and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Rev 20:15; And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Mark 9:43; "If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire,
Mark 9:48; where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.
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Born once, die twice.
Born twice, die once.
Rev 2:11; 'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.'
Rev 20:6; Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Rev 20:14; Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
Rev 21:8; "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
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Jude 1:3; Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints.
Jude 1:4; For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Heb 12:15; See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
