Yes, I am questioning the Judeo-Christian Bible in the 21st Century ......

[Garee]

The Old Testament prophets did not fully understand what they were prophesying about. (No private interpretation) but they really wanted to, so they searched diligently for its meaning.

What they did prophecy about they also testified of .It is was God working in mankind to both will and empower ., the gospel hid in parables.

They received the end of their new born again faith from the very beginning the salvation of their souls. They by faith Christ in them looked ahead we by the same spirit of faith look back to the same glory .The three days and nights propmised demonstration .

1 Peter 1: 9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets (like that of Zipporah) have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. (the rent veil

When the veil which represent the foreskin of the Son of man Jesus according the the circummsion of Jesus our bloody husband the first born of many brethren. The 70 foot veil was torn inspired from heaven to earth .

There was no Jewish King siting there .The father of lies could no longer deceive all the nation God was a Jewish man .God is not a man .

The prophetess Zipporah testfying to the law of circummsion. Jesus the first born our bloody husband because of circummsion . Similar to the parable of Abraham and Isaac . Zipporah like Abraham providing the priestly duty revealing the gospel the glory that should follow.


Exodus 4: 22-26 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn. And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

Obvious parable . . Gershom is used to represent the coming glory of the sufferings savior . Just as Isaac

Bloody husband mentioned twice to emphasized the law in one discourse (two verses) a place of honor. Precious space

God uses the metaphor bloody husband to represent the glory that followed the . . . . It is finished .

 

[Curtis]

1 Peter 1: 9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets (like that of Zipporah) have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. (the rent veil

1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

It was revealed unto the prophets that it was not for themselves to know the who, what, and when these things were to happen. They prophesied unto us in this generation.

 

[BrotherDThomas]

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@Bob Carabbio,


BOB, YOUR QUOTE THAT RAISES MORE QUESTIONS: “And I'm not "Seeking" anything. I'm going where the Lord Leads, for the purpose of giving ministry to whatever group He sticks me in for whatever purpose. “

DAMN IT, when you quoted that Jesus is sending you to where He wants you to lead, or to a group of churches as shown, is telling us that Jesus has therefore paraded you around to many divisions of the faith as you quoted in in your post #96! Therefore He has taken you to the Southern Baptist, American Baptist, United Methodist, and United Church of Christ denominations, and using your premise of Jesus leading you in this way to said churches, why did He pick so many contradicting churches for you to be a member? I don’t get it, can you explain?

Additionally, and subsequently to the above different churches you attended at one time, you ended up at the Assemblies of God Church again, therefore, what makes it an absolute that you picked the correct church in the eyes of Jesus, barring that you said you are your own church?



You skimmed over the majority of my last post to you in being #98, and thats okay, but you seemingly are thinking that your total sins are forgiven, therefore why did Jesus, as the Hebrew Yahweh God incarnate, create the sulfur lakes of Hell for the sinful if He didn’t plan on using it? In essence, you are saying that there is no need NOT TO SIN because you will always be forgiving of sins! Huh? Then why did Jesus create Hell for the sinful?

The inspired word of Jesus stated herewith: Jesus stated: “So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 13:49-50). Barring that our Jesus is not very loving and forgiving in this passage, and I as a true Christian that has to accept all of the Bible, I have to ask why did Jesus say a certain part of His creation are Hell bound upon His return, whereas you say that your sins are ALWAYS forgiving, this does not biblically compute and could you proffer an explanation, whereas I picked that there is a Hell since Jesus created it in the first place, where sinners will go upon their demise. Thanks.

Bob, a great conversation for sure, and I look forward to continuing it with you in a timely manner, praise!



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[Garee]

DAMN IT, when you quoted that Jesus is sending you to where He wants you to lead, or to a group of churches as shown, is telling us that Jesus has therefore paraded you around to many divisions of the faith as you quoted in in your post #96! Therefore He has taken you to the Southern Baptist, American Baptist, United Methodist, and United Church of Christ denominations, and using your premise of Jesus leading you in this way to said churches, why did He pick so many contradicting churches for you to be a member? I don’t get it, can you explain?

I would offer. .

The word of God informs us there must be division amongst us.(heresies) Seeing the kingdom of God does not come by observing the temporal things seen or things touched (all) that idea will be destroyed in the new heavens and earth. He also informs us there can be differences as long as they do not do despite to the fullness of grace the full price we were purchased with . Many that serve a hierarchy of men do work despite against the fulness of Grace. Like for instance Catholiscim who teach only a Queen of heaven received the fullness of grace and all other mankind and unknown remnant of grace and they must keep on sufferings looking for a queen to have mercy on them even when they are dead the sufferings continues along with other (ism ) Mormonism etc. venerable men lording it over the faith of non venerable)

In that way in order to feel blessed they must seek the teaching authority of venerable men seen . God whose name Is jealous owning all things under the Sun is not served by the corrupted hands a a will of mankind .In any way shape or form

Additionally, and subsequently to the above different churches you attended at one time, you ended up at the Assemblies of God Church again, therefore, what makes it an absolute that you picked the correct church in the eyes of Jesus, barring that you said you are your own church?

In that way we are the temple of God not made with human hands . If a person finds something they are not in agreement with there are plenty sects that can be tested. Assembling together as the witness of men does not rise above al things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) "the witness of God"

You skimmed over the majority of my last post to you in being #98, and thats okay, but you seemingly are thinking that your total sins are forgiven, therefore why did Jesus, as the Hebrew Yahweh God incarnate, create the sulfur lakes of Hell for the sinful if He didn’t plan on using it? In essence, you are saying that there is no need NOT TO SIN because you will always be forgiving of sins! Huh? Then why did Jesus create Hell for the sinful?

God does not forgive a remnant of sin .Philippians 1 :6 informs us If w he was begun the god teaching work in us he will continue to teach us till the last day under the Sun . Some are slower learners like myself .No time limit. It will be a open book test . Study to show one self approved.

You are using the word hell improperly . Hell is the daily sufferings we face living in a body of death . Death as to the letter of the law (thou shall not) or you will surely die and flesh return to the dust while the temporal spirit given under the letter of the law return to that Father of all spirt life . It Hell again as death will be cast into the judgment fire of God . The death of death itself

Death according to the letter of the law (the bible) will not rise up and condemn to death another whole creation . The believer yoked with Christ makes the daily burdens of hell lighter with the promise of a new incorruptible body that will never die or grow old.

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

 

[BrotherDThomas]

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@Garee,

YOUR QUOTE OF CHANGING CHURCHES UNTIL YOU FIND THE RIGHT ONE ACCORDING TO YOU? HUH?: “In that way we are the temple of God not made with human hands . If a person finds something they are not in agreement with there are plenty sects that can be tested. “

NO, NO, NO! We do not decide which church is inocorrect because “we” dislike what they say in “their doctrine,” it is what Jesus that says which is the correct doctrine within the scriptures! Therefore, like I have said before, when using the Codex Sinaiticus in being the closet documentation to Jesus’ true words in the New Testament, is what is used! When was the last time you saw a church using the Codex Sinaiticus Judea-Christian Bible? Do you now see my point?!



YOUR QUOTE REGARDING HELL: “You are using the word hell improperly . Hell is the daily sufferings we face living in a body of death . Death as to the letter of the law (thou shall not) or you will surely die and flesh return to the dust while the temporal spirit given under the letter of the law return to that Father of all spirt life”

With respect, since when is HELL the daily sufferings we all face in living in a body of death? Can you “Biblically” vouchsafe your assumed godly proposition, otherwise it is only an “opinion” and subjectively does not warrant further discussion.

Besides, Jesus’ inspired words herewith states with specificity that HELL IS A REAL PLACE and has lakes of burning sulfur, period! “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

Furthermore relating to Jesus and HELL: "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6: 9-10)

This passage above is an EXACT statement from the inspired words of Jesus within the scriptures, and it DOES NOT say that you are always forgiven, but in fact, if you are guilty of the things listed, you are NOT going to heaven, period! Do you want to call Jesus a LIAR in this revealing passage?!!! Always logically remember, why did Jesus create Hell in the first place (Colossians 1:16) if He didn't plan on using it? 2+2=4.



YOUR QUOTE IN NOT FOLLOWING THE 613 OLD TESTAMENT LAWS: "Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter."

Jesus’ DIRECT words disagrees with you: “Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations.” (Deuteronomy 7:9). Has a thousand generations passed since Jesus' death in around 34AD? NO, it has not, therefore once again, do you want to call Jesus' inspired words a LIE in the passage above to keep the Old Testament Commandments?

With the above verse alone, where there are MANY passages by Jesus in stating that we are to follow ALL of the 613 Old Testament Laws even today, is proof enough to do so, period!


Garee, thanks for your time.


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[Garee]

YOUR QUOTE OF CHANGING CHURCHES UNTIL YOU FIND THE RIGHT ONE ACCORDING TO YOU? HUH?: “In that way we are the temple of God not made with human hands . If a person finds something they are not in agreement with there are plenty sects that can be tested. “

NO, NO, NO! We do not decide which church is inocorrect because “we” dislike what they say in “their doctrine,” it is what Jesus that says which is the correct doctrine within the scriptures! Therefore, like I have said before, when using the Codex Sinaiticus in being the closet documentation to Jesus’ true words in the New Testament, is what is used! When was the last time you saw a church using the Codex Sinaiticus Judea-Christian Bible? Do you now see my point?!

Hi thanks for the reply . Iron can sharpen iron .

I would begin with the foundation and look to the time of promised first century reformation. And how and what it restored as the bride of Christ the church again to the proper witness or government of two. The witness of God as it is written (sola scriptura ) destroying the oral traditons of the witnesses of faithless men .

In that way as a example of God defining the parables and not the church defining the "us" that some go out from because they had a foundation of men to begin with, the government we can see with our eyes a hierarchy of venerable men .

In that way without parables Christ spoke not .Using parables as prophecy to teach us how to walk by faith (and not by sight) Again believers are the true temple made not with human hands . God is not served by the corrupted dying hands of mankind . If any moving is to done he is able to work with those yoked with Him .

In that way the Lord purposely hides the gospel understanding again and again to teach us how to walk by, the unseen power of God. One parable right after another hiding the understanding again and again . In one occasion the apostles were so confused that they began to elect a new spokesman . They must of thought Jesus went of the deep end and the remaining apostles played . . who is the greatest Alpha Dog ? His own family rejected his teaching in the same way

Note . . amazed wondered .Not did not believe or believe ( More like Limbo) same reason Jesus told Nicodemus to marvel not in respect to the greatest possible miracle. Can't believe and wonder at the same time and call it faith

Luke 9: 42-47 And as he was yet a coming, the devil threw him down, and tare him. And Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the child, and delivered him again to his father. And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples, Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying. Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest.

Therefore again and again speaking a parable hiding the unseen understanding of faith in the end verses 55 He rebukes them or us .
And exposes they do not know how to walk by faith

Luke 9: But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Denominations have there places .But they are not the power by which we can believe and move to do the will of God .

 

[BrotherDThomas]

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@Garee,

Simply put relative to the divisions of the faith churches, I will continue to use the godly Codex Sinaiticus Judeo-Christian Bible, and the King James version for the Old Testament, which BOTH are the closet to the words of Jesus that are available, and be damned of ALL subsequent versions of the Bible, and ALL of the divisions of Christian churches!


YOUR QUOTE OF QUESTIONING THE MANY DIVISIONAL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES: "Denominations have there places .But they are not the power by which we can believe and move to do the will of God."

HUH? If different divisions of Christian churches have their place, then you state they are not the power by which we can believe and do the will of Jesus, is contradicting upon its face!


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[Garee]

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@Garee,

Simply put relative to the divisions of the faith churches, I will continue to use the godly Codex Sinaiticus Judeo-Christian Bible, and the King James version for the Old Testament, which BOTH are the closet to the words of Jesus that are available, and be damned of ALL subsequent versions of the Bible, and ALL of the divisions of Christian churches!


YOUR QUOTE OF QUESTIONING THE MANY DIVISIONAL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES: "Denominations have there places .But they are not the power by which we can believe and move to do the will of God."

HUH? If different divisions of Christian churches have their place, then you state they are not the power by which we can believe and do the will of Jesus, is contradicting upon its face!


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We see God face to face or through the revealed knowledge light of His word . . all things written in the law and prophets or law unseen and its testimony seen .The two witnesses as one witness. . . God . Let there be and it was good. again the law of faith (Christ's in us) the hope of glory

The power by which they could believe is representing I beleive below .

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

The same spirit of faith by which we are called brothers , sisters, mothers like the first born from above, Jesus our brother in the Lord .

The Bible defines the us in Christ not the us the church that walked away because they were not of us .God is not served with corrupted dying hands as a will(Luke 9)

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother

In the spiritual family of God we are to call no man on earth father of all spirits. One is the good teaching master not seen God, our Holy Father .

 

[BrotherDThomas]

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@Shaolin and the Membership.

I will be waiting for Shaolin to show up to NOT RUN AWAY this time from my posts #94 and 95 within this thread as I have shown in this link #38! Yes, Jesus and I know that Shaolin gave very child-like excuses for NOT addressing my posts #89 and #90 within this thread as well, but that is Shaolin's problem upon Judgment Day.

Shaolin has yet to learn, that this esteemed Jesus Talk forum is for discussion, and NOT a runaway from discussion forum!

WAITING!


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[Rhema]

**************** Furthermore, and relating to your "who told you this MO," you are still in HIDING when I asked you the following: "In closing, and using your way of thinking, who told you that Jesus existed in the first place? Was it your version of the Bible that you have torn apart and have Satanically revised ad infinitum? Or, did Jesus in prayer tell you He existed in the time period within the Bible? Or, did your parents say He existed nonetheless by “faith” only? In other words, what is your ABSOLUTE and irrefutable conclusion that Jesus existed? WAITING! **************

If you're waiting... it's because you're having trouble reading.

Now if you ask me who told me that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, I can truthfully and honestly say that the Father in heaven revealed this to me.

Try harder, do better.

Rhema

(Waiting - long time - for your reply to my PM. So why are you "hiding"?)

 

[BrotherDThomas]

@Shaolin ,

Post #109 on Wednesday at 10:12 AM

Wednesday at 10:12 AMI will be waiting for Shaolin to show up to NOT RUN AWAY this time from my posts #94 and 95 within this thread as I have shown in this link #38! Yes, Jesus and I know that Shaolin gave very child-like excuses for NOT addressing my posts #89 and #90 within this thread as well, but that is Shaolin's problem upon Judgment Day.

Shaolin has yet to learn, that this esteemed Jesus Talk forum is for discussion, and NOT a runaway from discussion forum!

WAITING!

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UPDATE JANUARY 28, 2022:

Oh my, as we can readily see above, the poor RUNAWAY from Biblical axioms monikered as SHAOLIN is still running away from my posts #94 and #95 to them as shown above! Shaolin hasn't even given another lame excuse that they usually proffer when they cannot address biblical axioms presented by the inspired word of Jesus! What gives? Since I am new to this forum, is this Shaolin's usual modus operandi in RUNNING AWAY from posts directed to them when they cannot answer them? Let us give Shaolin some more time at their embarrassing expense.


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[Shaolin]

@Shaolin ,

Post #109 on Wednesday at 10:12 AM

Wednesday at 10:12 AMI will be waiting for Shaolin to show up to NOT RUN AWAY this time from my posts #94 and 95 within this thread as I have shown in this link #38! Yes, Jesus and I know that Shaolin gave very child-like excuses for NOT addressing my posts #89 and #90 within this thread as well, but that is Shaolin's problem upon Judgment Day.

Shaolin has yet to learn, that this esteemed Jesus Talk forum is for discussion, and NOT a runaway from discussion forum!

WAITING!

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UPDATE JANUARY 28, 2022:

Oh my, as we can readily see above, the poor RUNAWAY from Biblical axioms monikered as SHAOLIN is still running away from my posts #94 and #95 to them as shown above! Shaolin hasn't even given another lame excuse that they usually proffer when they cannot address biblical axioms presented by the inspired word of Jesus! What gives? Since I am new to this forum, is this Shaolin's usual modus operandi in RUNNING AWAY from posts directed to them when they cannot answer them? Let us give Shaolin some more time at their embarrassing expense.


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Here's how it goes, bro...you might get into a ring to fight a mentally incompetent man, but I will not. Hence, our conversation (if it can even be called that) was over days ago. I do not argue with people who have less than a 3rd grade education in Scripture.

Have fun ranting, you will not see me here again.

 

[BrotherDThomas]

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@Shaolin,

I, BrotherDThomas, will be keeping track of how many times SHAOLIN is explicitly running away from Jesus' inspired words within the scriptures that I have directed to them as shown with this ever growing list herewith:


UPDATE JANUARY 19, 2022:

Shaolin remains SILENT upon my simple question to them in my post #90 upon what sect of the Jewish faith does Shaolin belong to since Jesus only came for the Jewish people (Matthew 15:24). Shhhhh, don't awake Shaolin when they are in HIDING because they cannot address this question in the first place! LOL


UPDATE JANUARY 28, 2022:

Oh my, as we can readily see in Shaolin's whimpering post #113, the poor RUNAWAY from Biblical axioms is still running away from my posts #89, #90, which they didn't directly address the content thereof, other than to give little "girly-boy" excuses and ungodly subjective opinions, and then run off and hide! Furthermore, Shaolin didn't even give an excuse for running away from my posts #94, #95, other than to hide in shame for not being intellectually able to address them biblically. Shaolin's modus operandi of RUNNING AWAY from posts that I have directed to them is quite apparent of late, therefore what Shaolin thought they knew biblically, they didn't!


UPDATE JANUARY 29, 2022;

Pertaining to Shaolin's RUN AWAY STATUS to godly posts to them again, in my post #40 in another thread, I just asked a simple question to Shaolin to show me the proof where in the Bible does it state what Shaolin specifically quoted. In return, no answer was given by Shaolin other than to RUN AWAY AGAIN in not being able to answer my question!

Therefore Shaolin continues to step in the proverbial poo again, and again, and again, and again at their embarrassing expense in front of Jesus and the membership. We can only wonder where Shaolin HIDES OUT subsequent to not addressing my godly posts to them, other than to sophomorically state irrelative claptrap at times.


And, NO, Shaolin will not tell us in what "running shoes" they wear as they run away from Biblical posts directed to them that they cannot answer, whether they are Nike, Adidas, Puma, or?


Future updates of Shaolin's RUNAWAY STATUS from the Judeo-Christian Bible will be posted here at their continued embarrassment. Stay tuned!

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[Garee]

UPDATE JANUARY 19, 2022:

Shaolin remains SILENT upon my simple question to them in my post #90 upon what sect of the Jewish faith does Shaolin belong to since Jesus only came for the Jewish people (Matthew 15:24). Shhhhh, don't awake Shaolin when they are in HIDING because they cannot address this question in the first place! LOL

God is not served by the dying hands of mankind the first death God is not a man. That is simply a wile of the devil you are trying to sell

Our heavenly father describes the meaning of a Jew. Not a Jew .

Its really not that hard to understand its just a hard saying (offense to a Jew ) they love to glory in their own flesh .Even Jesus said to them His flesh profits for nothing they walked way in unbelief. . . no faith as it is written .


In that way its easy to see if any man has not the born again Spirit of Christ they simply do not below as a inward Jew or the new name he called His bride, Christian a more befitting name.

Romans 2: 28-29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

There were outward Jews (flesh alone) acting as Christian but they were not .

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

[BrotherDThomas]

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@Garee, @Shaolin

JESUS STATED WITH SPECIFICITY: "But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)

Are you calling Jesus a LIAR?! The lost sheep of Israel are the 12 tribes of the Hebrew faith only and Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate also stated "You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth [Hebrews]; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” (Amos 3:2). Therefore, Jesus chose only the Hebrews for His people that He will punish for their sins, and NOT the Chinese, nor the black people, (which have the Ham curse anyway) nor the Spanish people, the Eskimos, etc., etc., etc., PERIOD! 2+2=4! Furthermore, Jesus is the King of the Jews ONLY (Matthew 27:37) and as He also stated “a people for his own possession [Hebrews], above all peoples on the face of the earth” (Deuteronomy. 7:6).

Garee, seriously, it is really not that hard to understand with the above biblical axioms, JESUS IS FOR THE JEWS ONLY AND TO NONE OTHER! Allah being the same God as Jesus and Yahweh through the tradition of Abraham is for the Muslims only, get it? Huh? To be a Christian, you have to be a JEW as shown in the above Bible axioms, period!

You are skating on thin ice Garee, because your notion is in absolute CONTRADICTION to what I have brought forth biblically, therefore watch yourself because you are on the verge of committing the dreadful "Upardonable Sin" if you continue in this vein!!!! BLASPHEME!


****** Like SHAOLIN did in running away from this Biblical fact, as shown in my Shaolin Runaway Post #113, they knew to stay away and HIDE from this revealing biblical axiom because they too did not have a logical answer other than to RUN AWAY from it like SHAOLIN did, where they did not want to contradict the passages that I have shown above in this post! *******

I have accepted the FACT that I have to be a Jew as a true Christian in following Jesus' words, where I am a Messianic Jew for Jesus, especially since He is the "King of the Jews," praise!

Garee, what Jewish sect will you now be joining to be a true Christian for Jesus?


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[Garee]

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@Garee, @Shaolin

JESUS STATED WITH SPECIFICITY: "But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)

Are you calling Jesus a LIAR?! The lost sheep of Israel are the 12 tribes of the Hebrew faith only and Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate also stated "You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth [Hebrews]; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” (Amos 3:2). Therefore, Jesus chose only the Hebrews for His people that He will punish for their sins, and NOT the Chinese, nor the black people, (which have the Ham curse anyway) nor the Spanish people, the Eskimos, etc., etc., etc., PERIOD! 2+2=4! Furthermore, Jesus is the King of the Jews ONLY (Matthew 27:37) and as He also stated “a people for his own possession [Hebrews], above all peoples on the face of the earth” (Deuteronomy. 7:6).

Garee, seriously, it is really not that hard to understand with the above biblical axioms, JESUS IS FOR THE JEWS ONLY AND TO NONE OTHER! Allah being the same God as Jesus and Yahweh through the tradition of Abraham is for the Muslims only, get it? Huh? To be a Christian, you have to be a JEW as shown in the above Bible axioms, period!

You are skating on thin ice Garee, because your notion is in absolute CONTRADICTION to what I have brought forth biblically, therefore watch yourself because you are on the verge of committing the dreadful "Upardonable Sin" if you continue in this vein!!!! BLASPHEME!


****** Like SHAOLIN did in running away from this Biblical fact, as shown in my Shaolin Runaway Post, they knew to stay away and HIDE from this revealing biblical axiom because they too did not have a logical answer other than to RUN AWAY from it like they did, where they did not want to contradict the passages that I have shown above in this post! *******

I have accepted the FACT that I have to be a Jew as a true Christian in following Jesus' words, where I am a Messianic Jew for Jesus, praise!

What Jewish sect will you now be joining to be a true Christian for Jesus?

Thanks for the reply .

We do not look to the sects we look to the Spirit of Christ that indwells or yoked with the Christian or inward Jew born from above.

remember not al Israel is Israel just as not all that name the name Christians are born again from above .

Again we must look to the foundation of the doctrine rather than some Rabbi who cherry picks a verse and uses it out of context of the whole Bible (all things written in the law and prophets ).

Its easy to see when God changed the name Jacob as a deceiver into a born again name Israel no longer calling him a deceiver. But one who did wrestles against flesh and blood the things seen the temporal and being yoked with Christ who lived in the new born again Israel had the power to over come.

Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

The Father knowing beforehand that the gentiles would be given the faith Christ the power of God by which we can know our unseen Father he promised another new name more befitting to respect to all the nations of the world seeing our God is the Father of many nations not just the Jewish nation . jesu said of his won flesh it profits for nothing as that seen the temporal

Note. . ( purple) my addition to help maintain a point
Isaiah 62
For Zion's (heaveningly jerusalamen prepared for the bride of Christ ) sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's (earthly the temoporal) sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God. ...

He fulfilled his promise in Acts calling his bride the church "Christian," as a demonym . ( residents of a city know by location and also interpretation. Like the English speak English.

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Again Christian a more befitting name to represent all the nations of the world . Christian literally meaning residents of the City of Christ (Zion) prepared for his bride the church named after her Husband Christ. It would appear somewhat that the word has lost some of it meaning .(the foundation)

 

[BrotherDThomas]

@Garee,

YOUR EXACT QUOTE: "Again Christian a more befitting name to represent all the nations of the world."

When you state with specificity in your post #116 that Christians in name represent ALL NATIONS of the world, therefore are Muslims Christians with their God named Allah, even though the Muslim is taught the following within their Qur'an: "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51) AWAITING YOUR REPLY!

Again, Jesus stated herewith: “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24) The House of Israel includes all 12 tribes of Jews as shown below in the biblical era:

1. Judah
2. Reuben
3. Simeon
4. Levi
5. Zebulun
6. Issachar
7. Dan
8. Gad
9. Asher
10. Naphtali
11. Ephraim
12. Benjamin

These are the 12 tribes of Israel BEING JEWS as shown above that Jesus was referring too in Matthew 15:24 , and NOT any peoples of ALL NATIONS that you Satanically proffer, especially since many nations didn't even exist in the first place when Jesus walked the earth and that obviously cannot be included now because of their ideological make up! Get it?


AGAIN, I seriously suggest that you watch your Devil Speak and quit being anachronistic in wanting to insidiously bring Jesus to the 21st century where He did not exist in the first place, to make your ungodly statements about Him! Don't you realize that there is a Judgment Day, and with you trying to cherry pick certain passages to rewrite what Jesus stated in Matthew 15:24, Amos 3:2, Amos 3:2, Deuteronomy. 7:6, I would hate to be you upon the day of Judgment!


Garee, unfortunately at your expense upon Hell fire subsequent to your demise, you are blatantly guilty of this Jesus inspired passage: "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths." (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

WATCH YOUR STEP, BECAUSE YOU WILL BE GUILTY OF THE "UNPARDONABLE SIN" IF YOU CONTINUE IN THE VEIN THAT YOU ARE DOING NOW!



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[Rhema]

JESUS STATED WITH SPECIFICITY: "But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)

JESUS STATED WITH SPECIFICITY: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (Matthew 28:19 KJV)

Are you calling Jesus a LIAR?!

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 1:8 KJV)​

Are you calling Jesus a LIAR?!

JESUS IS FOR THE JEWS ONLY AND TO NONE OTHER!

I guess you are....

Rhema

 

[Shaolin]

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@Garee, @Shaolin

JESUS STATED WITH SPECIFICITY: "But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24)

Are you calling Jesus a LIAR?! The lost sheep of Israel are the 12 tribes of the Hebrew faith only and Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate also stated "You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth [Hebrews]; therefore I will punish you for all your sins.” (Amos 3:2). Therefore, Jesus chose only the Hebrews for His people that He will punish for their sins, and NOT the Chinese, nor the black people, (which have the Ham curse anyway) nor the Spanish people, the Eskimos, etc., etc., etc., PERIOD! 2+2=4! Furthermore, Jesus is the King of the Jews ONLY (Matthew 27:37) and as He also stated “a people for his own possession [Hebrews], above all peoples on the face of the earth” (Deuteronomy. 7:6).

Garee, seriously, it is really not that hard to understand with the above biblical axioms, JESUS IS FOR THE JEWS ONLY AND TO NONE OTHER! Allah being the same God as Jesus and Yahweh through the tradition of Abraham is for the Muslims only, get it? Huh? To be a Christian, you have to be a JEW as shown in the above Bible axioms, period!

You are skating on thin ice Garee, because your notion is in absolute CONTRADICTION to what I have brought forth biblically, therefore watch yourself because you are on the verge of committing the dreadful "Upardonable Sin" if you continue in this vein!!!! BLASPHEME!


****** Like SHAOLIN did in running away from this Biblical fact, as shown in my Shaolin Runaway Post #113, they knew to stay away and HIDE from this revealing biblical axiom because they too did not have a logical answer other than to RUN AWAY from it like SHAOLIN did, where they did not want to contradict the passages that I have shown above in this post! *******

I have accepted the FACT that I have to be a Jew as a true Christian in following Jesus' words, where I am a Messianic Jew for Jesus, especially since He is the "King of the Jews," praise!

Garee, what Jewish sect will you now be joining to be a true Christian for Jesus?


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@moderators...why do you allow this nonsense to continue?

 

[Rhema]

@moderators...why do you allow this nonsense to continue?

I told you before, @Shaolin - Dung. More dung.

He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.​

(Luke 13:6-9 KJV)​

Rhema