Are We In The End Times?

[Curtis]

were I can find one that one of the apostles said that Jesus dead on the cross has put an end to His Father law.

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the Law [the limit at which it ceases to be, for the Law leads up to Him Who is the fulfillment of its types, and in Him the purpose which it was designed to accomplish is fulfilled. That is, the purpose of the Law is fulfilled in Him] as the means of righteousness (right relationship to God) for everyone who trusts in and adheres to and relies on Him. (AMP)

Do you know why the "law" was given?

Gal 3:19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary.

The law was added, "until" the offspring should come...." ( that means Jesus fulfilled the law by his death upon the cross for us)

Will there ever be anyone declared righteous by keeping the law?

Gal 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”
Gal 3:11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”

1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings Curtis,

it is as if the law was a light; a light that revealed darkness for what it is and was?

What do you think?

and i don't think that men are any less 'enlightened' about what is 'dark' or 'wrong' or 'bad' today but if anything, more so.
As this is about, 'Are we in the end times', can we see that today we are not able to escape from knowing if it is right or wrong, even though many decide to ignore such things and prefer darkness over light.

Men hate light if it reveals the truth about a matter in which they are doing things wrong. Is this an end times thing?


Bless you ....><>

 

[Curtis]

it is as if the law was a light; a light that revealed darkness for what it is and was?

What do you think?

Sin is so hideous, and diabolical that man does not even know he has it. The only way for man to know he has it is by telling him to do something that God knows he could not possibly do, which was the law. The Apostle Paul describes how sin was revealed to him.

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Sin is like a disease that needs to be exposed, but the only "light" that can expose it is God's own word. The worse part is that "sin lays dormant" inside every human being until the word of God (the law) exposes, and causes that sin to "revive" back to life which shows man he really is dead in sin! The word, "revived" in verse 9 means, "to resuscitate" which means to go from a dead state to a living state.

Now that man knows he is dead in his sin, he needs a savior that can give him life.

Paul again tells us that the law was like a guardian that kept us until Jesus Christ came, fulfilled the law for us, and now for us to be justified we put our "faith" in the one who fulfilled the law for us!

Gal 3:24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.

It is almost like the saying, "if you want something to be done right, you will have to do it yourself"

Basically, that is exactly what God did for us!


Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[Curtis]

Men hate light if it reveals the truth about a matter in which they are doing things wrong. Is this an end times thing?

This has been going on from the very beginning until now (end times). The light of the Gospel causes sin in man to revive back to life, and all he (man) wants to do is get away from the light as fast as possible. Have you ever noticed that when sharing the Gospel to others?

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings again Curtis,

I suppose what i was trying to say was that today (end times?) men know at least the basics of the law. Modern man has it all through their legal systems and the basic way people are brought up. Don't lie, Johnny. Don't stea,l Bobby. Don't cheat on others, Freddy. Don't kill others, Mickey. etc and things like adultery, it is not as if it isn't a sore point with people if it happens to them. How do they know any different?
Likewise, having no other gods has been well taught and when push comes to shove, we see men who, despite any disagreement with this, they always include our God in the picture. Why, if they have no idea about it?

My thoughts were that men DO have knowledge of the law (at least basic ten commandments type law) and yet they choose to ignore and rebel and even despise it.
Our modern culture and the media that invades everyone's life, in one way or another, has 'taught' men what the law is.

That does not mean people know the Gospel, though. That is our part. Telling men of that which they know, in a way they understand and can see it is Truth. Many will, sadly, reject it.
Perhaps one of the problems i see is that we are given by God, the means and gifting to tell people in a language they can understand and we often prefer to use the 'written word' [the law] as our voice-piece rather than talking to others of what it is that is yearning inside them for freedom and liberty. In other words, we do not 'translate' or 'interpret' for them so they might also give praise to God.
We have to let others know that it is Jesus Christ, the Son of God, Who can deliver them and it is only through Him that we can have Life.

yes, men love darkness rather than light and it is a sad thing to see men perish having rejected the light.

But, in all honesty, can you imagine the average man today saying to God, "I didn't know it was wrong".

The Israelites had it written down and there was no guesswork in it. (there were different types of law, also, such as ceremonial, Which Christ has fulfilled.) As i said before, most people today in many countries know the moral laws and to some extent the laws pertaining to honouring God. The internet and technology has provided an access point to millions who otherwise may never had heard or realised that people actually think like that or live like that [a relative level of decency and moral standards and evn God and Jesus]
As far as 'end times' goes, we [people] are finding lesser and lesser excuses for ignoring it.

What does the Bible tell us?
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 8:2


Bless you and thank you for responding ....><>

 

[Pipiripi]

Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the Law [the limit at which it ceases to be, for the Law leads up to Him Who is the fulfillment of its types, and in Him the purpose which it was designed to accomplish is fulfilled. That is, the purpose of the Law is fulfilled in Him] as the means of righteousness (right relationship to God) for everyone who trusts in and adheres to and relies on Him. (AMP)

Do you know why the "law" was given?

Gal 3:19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary.

The law was added, "until" the offspring should come...." ( that means Jesus fulfilled the law by his death upon the cross for us)

Will there ever be anyone declared righteous by keeping the law?

Gal 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”
Gal 3:11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”

1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Where can I read that Jesus says that His dead on the cross shall put an end to His Father Laws?

 

[Curtis]

Where can I read that Jesus says that His dead on the cross shall put an end to His Father Laws?

Gal 2:16 We know that no one is made right with God by obeying the law. It is by believing in Jesus Christ. So we too have put our faith in Christ Jesus. That is so we can be made right with God by believing in Christ, not by obeying the law. No one can be made right with God by obeying the law.

 

[Pipiripi]

Gal 2:16 We know that no one is made right with God by obeying the law. It is by believing in Jesus Christ. So we too have put our faith in Christ Jesus. That is so we can be made right with God by believing in Christ, not by obeying the law. No one can be made right with God by obeying the law.

Here it says make right before God. It isn't nothing to do about salvation.
A question, if Jesus says think not, are you going the opposite?

 

[Curtis]

Here it says make right before God. It isn't nothing to do about salvation.
A question, if Jesus says think not, are you going the opposite?

Gal 2:16 Yet we know that a man is justified or reckoned righteous and in right standing with God not by works of the Law, but [only] through faith and [absolute] reliance on and adherence to and trust in Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One). [Therefore] even we [ourselves] have believed on Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law [for we cannot be justified by any observance of the ritual of the Law given by Moses], because by keeping legal rituals and by works no human being can ever be justified (declared righteous and put in right standing with God). (AMP)

Nobody has salvation unless they have been declared "righteous" (to make right) which only comes by "faith" in Jesus and not by the works of the law!

Gal 5:4 If you seek to be justified and declared righteous and to be given a right standing with God through the Law, you are brought to nothing and so separated (severed) from Christ. You have fallen away from grace (from God's gracious favor and unmerited blessing).(AMP)

 

[Pipiripi]

Gal 2:16 Yet we know that a man is justified or reckoned righteous and in right standing with God not by works of the Law, but [only] through faith and [absolute] reliance on and adherence to and trust in Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One). [Therefore] even we [ourselves] have believed on Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law [for we cannot be justified by any observance of the ritual of the Law given by Moses], because by keeping legal rituals and by works no human being can ever be justified (declared righteous and put in right standing with God). (AMP)

Nobody has salvation unless they have been declared "righteous" (to make right) which only comes by "faith" in Jesus and not by the works of the law!

Gal 5:4 If you seek to be justified and declared righteous and to be given a right standing with God through the Law, you are brought to nothing and so separated (severed) from Christ. You have fallen away from grace (from God's gracious favor and unmerited blessing).(AMP)

Let the Bible speak. I did have asking you two questions and you cannot answered them.
1. Where can I read that JESUS SAYS that His dead on the cross shall put an end to His Father LAWS?
2. If JESUS says: "THINK NOT",are you going to do the opposite?

PLEASE answered the questions.

Read carefully those verses.
James 2:14. 2:18. 2:22. 2:24. Revelation 2:13. 2:19.
There are many more to come

 

[Curtis]

Let the Bible speak

The Bible has been speaking directly to you, but you are not hearing their words. Why? You seem to be "stuck" in the Old Testament in which Jesus lived. Today we are living under the New Testament where Jesus who now lives inside every believer has already "fulfilled" the law for us along with its commands.

 

[Sue D.]

@Pipiripi -- why do you keep arguing with Scripture.

 

[Pipiripi]

The Bible has been speaking directly to you, but you are not hearing their words. Why? You seem to be "stuck" in the Old Testament in which Jesus lived. Today we are living under the New Testament where Jesus who now lives inside every believer has already "fulfilled" the law for us along with its commands.

Do you see, again you didn't answered my questions. Do you know why! Because the devil has closed you and many other people's their eyes that they cannot accept the truth.

Jesus never had fulfill anything. Is time for you and all the others let God opened your minds so that you can understand the scriptures.

First let we see what Jesus says with His mouth about the fulfilling.

Matthew 5:17-20. Verse one listened very carefully what Jesus is saying in verse 1. THINK NOT- DON'T THINK!! Why are you thinking the opposite of Jesus WORDS?
An other question: Did the heaven and earth has passing by?? Or are we are still living on this planet?

What about verse 20. This verse hurts many people today.

What about Roman 8:4,7? Verse 4 is for me because I kept the 10 Commandments. And verse 7 is for you that cannot keep the commandments.

Show the world your faith without the commandments. And I show you my faith trough the commandments. I have ask questions that the answered are in the Bible you cannot answered my question. Ask me any questions you like because I can answered all BIBLICALLY for the world to find the truth.

Where can I read in the Bible that Jesus says that His dead on the cross shall put an end to HIS FATHER LAWS?

 

[Pipiripi]

@Pipiripi -- why do you keep arguing with Scripture.

Why don't you let God open your mind to understand the scriptures?

Don't you see that just a FEW have the true? Never the majority has the truth in the Bible and also today. Don't you see that Jesus says which kind of people can entered the kingdom of God? Ask me questions about things that you cannot understand.

 

[Br. Bear]

@Pipiripi
Greetings,

Ask me questions about things that you cannot understand.

I think Sue D did ask a question.

@Pipiripi -- why do you keep arguing with Scripture.

So, perhaps you could take the time to gently give an answer to her so that she can understand your answer?

Life is not meant to be a competition, even more so the Christian life.

Perhaps you would like to ask me some question? And should i reply like you or would you prefer that i took the time and care in love to do my best to help you understand my answer?

According to the Bible, we should do all things with love being the motive, the reason and the way, for the very sake of love (also referred to as charity) that we may grow, but let the growing be in grace, to the glory of God the Father and not ourselves.

thank you for reading


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]

@Pipiripi

No husga pa Dios no husga bo.

No sa usa paña nobo, ku no a krem ainda, pa lapi bistí bieu. Pasobra e lapi nobo ta sker e bistí bieu hasi e buraku mas grandi.

 

[Pipiripi]

@Pipiripi
Greetings,



I think Sue D did ask a question.


So, perhaps you could take the time to gently give an answer to her so that she can understand your answer?

Life is not meant to be a competition, even more so the Christian life.

Perhaps you would like to ask me some question? And should i reply like you or would you prefer that i took the time and care in love to do my best to help you understand my answer?

According to the Bible, we should do all things with love being the motive, the reason and the way, for the very sake of love (also referred to as charity) that we may grow, but let the growing be in grace, to the glory of God the Father and not ourselves.

thank you for reading


Bless you ....><>

My friend I am not arguing about the Bible, only about the false teachings. Why you don't answered me my questions? You people are the same as the scribes and the others that are against Jesus. I just reply what Jesus says. And you attack me. Is that love? I used only what is written in the bible and live God's words. That's why I can answered all questions.

AGAIN, Did Jesus says that His dead on the CROSS shall put an END to God's LAWS?

Or did Jesus says: "THINK NOT" or "DON'T THINK"?

ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS SO THE OTHERS SHALL SEE WICH ONE IS TRUE.

 

[Pipiripi]

@Pipiripi

No husga pa Dios no husga bo.

No ta ami a bisa NO PENSA. Esun mes ku bo ta ninga lo husga bo. Ami a ripiti loke Hesus a bisa.

Kontesta mi pregunta stop di bula pipa.

 

[Br. Bear]

My friend I am not arguing about the Bible, only about the false teachings. Why you don't answered me my questions? You people are the same as the scribes and the others that are against Jesus. I just reply what Jesus says. And you attack me. Is that love? I used only what is written in the bible and live God's words. That's why I can answered all questions.

AGAIN, Did Jesus says that His dead on the CROSS shall put an END to God's LAWS?


Or did Jesus says: "THINK NOT" or "DON'T THINK"?

ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS SO THE OTHERS SHALL SEE WICH ONE IS TRUE.

Greetings Pipiripi,

forgive me if you consider i have attacked you. I was not aware that i had, nor that you had addressed me with a question.

I shall endeavour to answer the questions you raised, if you would like me to.


Bless you ....><>

 

[Pipiripi]

Greetings Pipiripi,

forgive me if you consider i have attacked you. I was not aware that i had, nor that you had addressed me with a question.

I shall endeavour to answer the questions you raised, if you would like me to.


Bless you ....><>

My friend I believed that Forums is a side for everybody talking about their faith to see which one is from God. By the end of this world there shall be two groups of people. Matthew 25:31-46. And the peoples of God are this one.
Revelation 12:17 and 14:12. The question about this is that everybody must asked themselves, that they are one of them. The Bible has spoken not me.
Bless