Does anyone else think the Corona vaccine is the mark of the beast?

[Dave M]

Typical side effects are a mild fever and fatigue for a short time. I'll manage.

And primarily I'll be taking the vaccine for the benefit of others, not myself. I don't want to contact the virus and put others more vulnerable than me at risk by passing on the infection.

I wonder if this vaccine, like many on the market, will have aborted fetuses tissue in it??

any idea whats in the vaccine??

 

[Hekuran]

I believe the Oxford vaccine is derived from embryo cell. I know the Pfizer vaccine does not contain them. Not sure about others.

 

[readytogrow]

Its so disheartening to see some believer abandon God given common sense.

So many people on this planet can not just go to the local store and grab some food. Pre nd post pandemic
So many people have to ration their food to last months. Pre and post pandemic

Look up food rationing in Cuba


Here we are in industrialized established nations and were complaining about wearing cloth on our face.

Here we are complaining and lying and saying we will be banned from buying food and goods when all we have to do it do a free pick up order and not even have to leave our cars. When at the click of a button or a 1 minute phone call you all could have a hot meal delivered to your door

There is literally grassroot organizations out here shopping for elderly and vulnerable who cant go into stores, or cant wear a mask.


Some of you guys dont understand how ungrateful you sound.

 

[Dave M]

Its so disheartening to see some believer abandon God given common sense.

What I see is two types of mindsets , those that are trusting in the government, and believe the media about how dangerous this virus is.

and the other that don't believe the media or trust the gov at all

hopefully we can respect each others view point without accusations being thrown around because we think differently

 

[Hekuran]

What I see is two types of mindsets , those that are trusting in the government, and believe the media about how dangerous this virus is.

and the other that don't believe the media or trust the gov at all

hopefully we can respect each others view point without accusations being thrown around because we think differently

You can get beyond the media and government information fairly quickly and easily by checking sources and accessing the data that scientists, medics, academics and policy makers use. A lot of it is freely available on the internet.

It takes a bit of effort, but it's worth it to hack through the confusion.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Does anyone else think the Corona vaccine is the mark of the beast?

OF COURSE NOT!!!! Not any more than any other "disease" has been over the centuries. The "Corona Virus" is "Just another" disease among many. In a couple of years it'll be long forgotten.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

I wonder if this vaccine, like many on the market, will have aborted fetuses tissue in it??

any idea whats in the vaccine??

Astra Zeneca's vaccine apparently does. Phizer's, and Moderna's don't. Phizer will be FIRST available.

 

[readytogrow]

What I see is two types of mindsets , those that are trusting in the government, and believe the media about how dangerous this virus is.

and the other that don't believe the media or trust the gov at all

hopefully we can respect each others view point without accusations being thrown around because we think differently

Its not even about all of that.

Its about people acting as if we are suffering because we cant go into stores without mask.

Even though we can still order things.

Some families cant even afford food right now, and we have people who are complaining about not being able to walk into stores without a mask.


If you dont believe the media ok np.
If you think all the precaution we are taking is unnecessary ok.
But dont act like we are suffering

The people who cant afford food are suffering
The cubans who have to wait on a list for peanut butter are suffering
The refugees living in camps waiting on volunteers to bring food

 

[Dave M]

But dont act like we are suffering

But dont act like we are suffering

I think you have mistankenly read into something I never said, or intended to give the impression of my apologies, I know in America we live better then the majority of the planet and we will be held accountable with what we do with all of our resources God has entrusted us with, I live by this every day,

What I have been trying to say is I see our rights being stripped away, and people are lining up yo give them away. we are becoming a socialist nation, and it sucks, but I am not of this world only passing through so I have to remember that.

here is a good summary that is a copy and paste

didn’t write this but man.........
It's not about masks. Open your mind to the POSSIBILITY......
In 4 months, the U.S. transformed into an obedient socialist country. Government dictated what events are acceptable to attend. Violent protests that instill fear are OK but church services, family funerals and patriotic celebrations are dangerous. And you bought it without a fight.
Standing in a graduation line is a "safety hazard". Small businesses were forced to close but crowds to support the corporate money machine at WalMart, Lowes and Home Depot are OK.
Come on. It's "just a mask" & "safety precautions".
How about a little hush money. Here's $2,400 that we stole out of your pay check in the first place. Enjoy. Buy something with it. From a big corporation.
Cash is dirty. We can't give change. There's a coin shortage. Use your card. In 4 months, they convinced you to use a traceable card for everything.
In less than 4 months, government closed public schools then "restructured" education under the guise of "public safety". In less than 4 months, our government demonstrated how easily people assimilate to "guidelines" that have NO scientific premise whatsoever when you are fearful.
In less than 4 months, our government successfully instilled fear in a majority of the population in America that allows them to control every aspect of your life. Including what you eat, where you go, and who you see.
And the most dangerous and terrifying part? People are not afraid of their freedoms being removed. They're afraid of their neighbors, family and friends.
And they hate those who won't comply.
It's absolutely terrifying to me that so many people don't question "why". They are willing to surrender their critical thinking skills and independence. They just... gave up without thinking. Without a fight
Do you know what's coming next?
"It's just a vaccine. Come on. It's for the greater good".
Wait until you're told that you can't enter any store or business without proof of the Covid-19 vaccine. Wait until you can't go to public events or get on a plane without proof of receiving the vaccine.
To everyone that doesn't believe this is possible - DO YOU UNDERSTAND that government successfully dictated to people WHEN they were allowed to be outside, where they were allowed to go, and how their children would be educated in less than 4 months? And that a majority of the population followed blindly because they were told to do so.
You're kidding yourself if you think this behavior won't be repeated with a vaccine. Or whatever the next step is.
But that couldn't happen here, right?

 

[readytogrow]

I was honestly speaking in general



One can look at it as a nation, the world,a people trying to figure out a painful situation and make things work

And one can look at it as a diabolical plot for something sinister.


Its really up to that person

 

[Dave M]

I was honestly speaking in general

interesting wonder why you quoted me and used terms like "you" but it all good thanks for your clarifications

One can look at it as a nation, the world,a people trying to figure out a painful situation and make things work

I would recommend looking to Jesus and understand what is going on in the world, and only Jesus can give you peace in your heart,

it clear as day whats going on, I agree it us to us on how to deal with it, and there is only one way to deal with it, A holly Godly way

Ephesians 6:12
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

 

[Sue D.]

'we' are getting a look at what socialism will be like. One little freedom gone at a time. For the 'sake of' Who exactly. For the sake of the elderly? They certainly don't like it. They are supposedly being protected , but from What?

Those of us who Do think for ourselves are being considered to be selfish. Or not putting the other person's welfare before our own.

Back to the topic -- is this virus the mark of the beast. At this point, no. However -- IF we get a 'mark' indicating that we've taken the vaccine or else we Won't be allowed in stores or to work or wherever. Then......

The vaccine is now available -- has to get FDA approval. A few people are already getting it in other countries. There's been an article on FB page about 'Will' Shakespeare being the first of several to get it. A really elderly man in a hospital gown.

 

[Godsangel]

no

 

[ChristianConsFurryGuy]

There seems to be an ongoing conversation that some of the talk about the Coronavirus vaccine may be tied to the mark of the beast found in Revelation 13: 16-18. There's a lot of talk about how they want to add a genetic marker to the vaccine, or force people to have a digital passport to indicate they got the vaccine; however, anyone who didn't get it would be prohibited from entering venues or even travel. Sounds pretty similar, isn't it?

However there is one good reason why this is NOT the mark of the beast...Christians would not be on the earth when it is introduced!

How do I know this?
1. Revelation 3:10 is a special message to the church that will be present around before the rapture. Many theologians already equate the 7 churches mentioned in the first chapters as being a timeline of the church. This church in particular--the church of Philidelphia-- is starting to see the coming persecution. But Jesus speaks comfort to them saying:

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. (Revelation 3:10, KJV)

Prophecy scholars say this is an indication that though the church will see persecution, God will rescue them from the final 7 year tribulation.

2. One thing you should consider: If you read the book of Revelation, you'll notice one interesting occurance. From Chapter 4 until 20, which encompasses the 7 year tribulation period, there is no mention of the church anywhere. They talk about the saints in various locations, but it is seen as only those that come to faith during the Tribulation. The church itself however is not mentioned. Don't you think that during this time, if the church was present there, they would be called out?
The answer: The church is not going through the Tribulation because it was raptured! Just as in Revelation 3:10, the Church is extracated from the Earth and returns to the Earth with Jesus at his second coming.

So while this vaccine may have indications of the mark of the beast, it is more than likely a framework for the coming Anti-Christ and his regime.

 

[Sue D.]

Totally agree with you.

 

[Dave M]

There seems to be an ongoing conversation that some of the talk about the Coronavirus vaccine may be tied to the mark of the beast found in Revelation 13: 16-18. There's a lot of talk about how they want to add a genetic marker to the vaccine, or force people to have a digital passport to indicate they got the vaccine; however, anyone who didn't get it would be prohibited from entering venues or even travel. Sounds pretty similar, isn't it?

However there is one good reason why this is NOT the mark of the beast...Christians would not be on the earth when it is introduced!

How do I know this?
1. Revelation 3:10 is a special message to the church that will be present around before the rapture. Many theologians already equate the 7 churches mentioned in the first chapters as being a timeline of the church. This church in particular--the church of Philidelphia-- is starting to see the coming persecution. But Jesus speaks comfort to them saying:



Prophecy scholars say this is an indication that though the church will see persecution, God will rescue them from the final 7 year tribulation.

2. One thing you should consider: If you read the book of Revelation, you'll notice one interesting occurance. From Chapter 4 until 20, which encompasses the 7 year tribulation period, there is no mention of the church anywhere. They talk about the saints in various locations, but it is seen as only those that come to faith during the Tribulation. The church itself however is not mentioned. Don't you think that during this time, if the church was present there, they would be called out?
The answer: The church is not going through the Tribulation because it was raptured! Just as in Revelation 3:10, the Church is extracated from the Earth and returns to the Earth with Jesus at his second coming.

So while this vaccine may have indications of the mark of the beast, it is more than likely a framework for the coming Anti-Christ and his regime.

It says no one repents in the Book of Revelation it never says people are repenting coming to Christ.. the church is Believers the church is individual Saints so yes the church he is mentioned after chapter 4 are my thoughts respectfully

 

[B-A-C]

so yes the church he is mentioned after chapter 4 are my thoughts respectfully

Exactly, who are those who are clothed in white robes who come out of the tribulation? The church.
Who are those who reign with Christ because they refuse to take the mark of the beast? The church.
Who are those who won't be hurt by the stinging locusts because they have the mark of God on their foreheads? The church.
All of those are after chapter 4.

 

[B-A-C]

Those of us who Do think for ourselves are being considered to be selfish. Or not putting the other person's welfare before our own.

Exactly!
How dare those selfish people go against the government, how dare them try to feed their starving families, open their businesses, pay their bills, pay their rent. How selfish of them.
Sorry but if it comes to my family or you dying, guess who is going to win. But there's a 99.999% chance no one going to die from corona virus anyway.

How dare you selfish people go visit grandma in the nursing home, you're putting them all at risk. Those old people who made it through the swine flu, bird flu, spanish flu, and a lot more
would rather have you visit them, than die alone "keeping everyone safe". I guarantee you, when grandma dies, she'll be a lot happier if you come to visit her.

 

[ChristianConsFurryGuy]

Exactly, who are those who are clothed in white robes who come out of the tribulation? The church.
Who are those who reign with Christ because they refuse to take the mark of the beast? The church.
Who are those who won't be hurt by the stinging locusts because they have the mark of God on their foreheads? The church.
All of those are after chapter 4.

2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

who are the ones who fight for the lives of the unborn? The church. Who fights against injustice and seeks peace? The church.What happens to the world when those who fight for truth are gone and the restraints on the wicked are gone?

 

[Sue D.]

That's why this world is going to be in even Greater chaos After the Church is taken out of the picture. So -- it seems to be a question of being pre or mid-trib rapture.

At the 'end of the day' -- when Jesus Christ returns to take His Church up with Him -- it will be in the twinkling of the eye.

My vote is obviously with after the church of Laodiceas -- end of chapter 3.

Chapter 4 starts a brand new section of Revelation.

Let's just make sure that we're ready to go -- accept Jesus Christ as personal Lord and Savior if we haven't already done so.