Does Jesus love satan?

[Bill]

Most Bible scholars take this to be a parallel prophecy. There really was a king of Tyre, and a lot of this pertains to him.
However, Ezekiel would have written this close to 4500 years after the flood. So it's very unlikely that the king of Tyre was the cherub (angel) in the garden.

Ezek 28:1 The word of the LORD came again to me, saying,
Ezek 28:2 "Son of man, say to the leader of Tyre, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Because your heart is lifted up And you have said, 'I am a god, I sit in the seat of gods In the heart of the seas'; Yet you are a man and not God, Although you make your heart like the heart of God—
Ezek 28:3 Behold, you are wiser than Daniel; There is no secret that is a match for you.
Ezek 28:4 "By your wisdom and understanding You have acquired riches for yourself And have acquired gold and silver for your treasuries.
Ezek 28:5 "By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches And your heart is lifted up because of your riches—
Ezek 28:6 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, 'Because you have made your heart Like the heart of God,
Ezek 28:7 Therefore, behold, I will bring strangers upon you, The most ruthless of the nations. And they will draw their swords Against the beauty of your wisdom And defile your splendor.
Ezek 28:8 'They will bring you down to the pit, And you will die the death of those who are slain In the heart of the seas.
Ezek 28:9 'Will you still say, "I am a god," In the presence of your slayer, Though you are a man and not God, In the hands of those who wound you?
Ezek 28:10 'You will die the death of the uncircumcised By the hand of strangers, For I have spoken!' declares the Lord GOD!"'"

Ezek 28:11 Again the word of the LORD came to me saying,
Ezek 28:12 "Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "You had the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
Ezek 28:13 "You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared.
Ezek 28:14 "You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there. You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked in the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezek 28:15 "You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created Until unrighteousness was found in you.
Ezek 28:16 "By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned; Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire.
Ezek 28:17 "Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I put you before kings, That they may see you.
Ezek 28:18 "By the multitude of your iniquities, In the unrighteousness of your trade You profaned your sanctuaries. Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you; It has consumed you, And I have turned you to ashes on the earth In the eyes of all who see you.
Ezek 28:19 "All who know you among the peoples Are appalled at you; You have become terrified And you will cease to be forever."'"

Satan is a created being. He was once a "good angel" who rebelled and turned bad. Verse 16 says he was cast out of heaven. In Luke 10:18; Jesus says He saw this happen.

Isaiah 14 is similar. Another prophecy about the king of Babylon.

Isa 14:12; "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! (Lucifer) You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
Isa 14:13; "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north.
Isa 14:14; 'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'
Isa 14:15; "Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol, To the recesses of the pit.
Isa 14:16; "Those who see you will gaze at you, They will ponder over you, saying, 'Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms,
Isa 14:17; Who made the world like a wilderness And overthrew its cities, Who did not allow his prisoners to go home?'

It's very likely this being that will be locked in the pit, is the same being referenced in Rev 20:1-3;

Rev 20:1; Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2; And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;
Rev 20:3; and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.

Isa 14:17; .. "did not allow his prisoners to go home"

Eph 4:8; Therefore it says, "WHEN HE ASCENDED ON HIGH, HE LED CAPTIVE A HOST OF CAPTIVES, AND HE GAVE GIFTS TO MEN."
Eph 4:9; Now this expression, "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10; He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.

I don't have time to really cover this here, and this thread is about God loving Satan anyway. But there was a place called Abrahams Bosom in Sheol.
The (dead) saints were being held there by Satan. But Jesus descended into the Earth and set them free. After He was crucified He said all authority in heaven and Earth has been given to me.
Now I'm the one with the keys to Hades. I'm the one who has the power to set them free. ( Rev 1:18; ) Matt 28:18;

You are really close , my friend . The first part is about the antiChrist , but then it goes on talking about Lucifer

 

[PloughBoy]

Wow.

 

[Bill]

Wow.

Why

 

[B-A-C]

You are really close , my friend . The first part is about the antiChrist , but then it goes on talking about Lucifer

How would you describe the difference between Satan and the anti-Christ?

 

[Garee]

There was no error , flaw or lie in Lucifer when he was created. He was created perfect as all the Angels were .

We like the Angels have a free will , and all have a conscience , and think and wonder. With Lucifer he experienced ambition. And like the King of Egypt , felt he had no equal ( except God ) . He became enamored, and prideful . Seeing himself as above all. His passions grew , and had no bounds.

Then the day came when God revealed mankind to him . And that they would be less than the Angels while on earth, and greater than the Angels in Heaven.

Lucifer could not contain himself any longer . He openly opposed Gods plan , a third of the Angels felt similar to his thoughts opposing the will of God. Then Lucifer declared himself equal to God. To which Micheal ( a lowly gaurdian ) declared , " who is like unto God " .

Micheal lead the charge against the rebelling Angels, sealing thier fate . Micheal was given the highest status any Angel can recieve , becoming an Arch Angel.

The word messenger in regard to sons of God must be defined. God does not call the spirit of error (legion) angels as sons of God. They would be associated with false prophets as false apostles. Those who bring the message of the god of this world (legion) the message that works in the hearts of un redeemed mankind .

Michael, literally meaning as a query. Like the word manna used as a query(what is it? ) , Michael The rhetorical question .Who is like God? Well certainly not mankind the temporal as to what the eyes see. .the lust thereof.

God is Spirit .God is Light and God is Love. The triune God .Again he is not a man as us and neither is there any fleshly infallible interpreter that sits as umpire between eternal God not seen and temporal mankind seen.

The ark messengers Michael must be the Son of man, Jesus the chief apostle the same prophet who declared. . not as he wills according to the corrupted flesh but as our father in heaven wills according to the power of His Holy Spirit. Prophets have no power of their own needed to rebuke the spirit of error (legion) the father of all lies.

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Jesus the prophet as the Son of man was given words from the father the Lord. . they rebuked the legion of lying spirits.

It would seem some error when looking at the word messenger as prophets sent as apostles with the gospel of salvation. god does not refer to demons as angels "sons of God" speak of the new born again creation saints.

 

[Garee]

How would you describe the difference between Satan and the anti-Christ?

I would say no difference. Satan is the spirit of the anti-Christ (another teacher) singular by which he deceives the whole world and not just the Jewish world by the false teaching of the anti-christs (plural) a legion of false teacher’s false apostles …. The man of sin.

Both the plural and the singular working as one legion .Called the man of sin . Legion needs a body to deceive those who have no faith .They must look to the temporal seen not having the faith as it is written to give them the unseen gospel understanding.

There were according to 1 John many antichrists deceived by legion (Satan) in the new testament.

Peter served as one who rebuked the Son of man, Jesus preventing him from doing the gospel work .

The Lord gave words to His prophet Jesus the Son of man .those words rebuked the legion and it fled.

Peter was forgiven of blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus the temporal seen. Today there is no forgiveness against the Holy Spirit not seen. . the same power that works in these bodies of death giving us the unseen understanding in his parables like that of Mathew 16 .

 

[Bill]

How would you describe the difference between Satan and the anti-Christ?

The antiChrist was born .

 

[Brad Huber]

The antiChrist was born .

Well, as to satan, not on earth, and not from a human female uterus at least. And being born sentient is simply going from something possible to be life, to being intelligent life. Even the stars are born, live, and die just like us, just different forms.

 

[Garee]

How would you describe the difference between Satan and the anti-Christ?

The antichrist is Satan the spirit error that oppseses truth as a law of God . The one spirit of error that works in the heart of natural unredeemed mankind. They as antichrists (plural) as those decived are the many that were already here when the new testament was penned. . many are antichrists .(legion ) false teachers , false apostles.

The singular form must be distinguished from the legion many.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Both the plural antichrists those decived and the singular antichrist . . the lying power of deception

Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

The antichrist is the spirit of lust leading to false pride, he began his work as a false teacher, false prophet in the garden of Eden . This is when God saw pride in the heart of the earth . The glory of God departed corruption began its work of death and suffering.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

 

[Bill]

Well, as to satan, not on earth, and not from a human female uterus at least. And being born sentient is simply going from something possible to be life, to being intelligent life. Even the stars are born, live, and die just like us, just different forms.

The antiChrist , the person is a human . The spirit of the antiChrist comes from Satan

 

[Bill]

The word messenger in regard to sons of God must be defined. God does not call the spirit of error (legion) angels as sons of God. They would be associated with false prophets as false apostles. Those who bring the message of the god of this world (legion) the message that works in the hearts of un redeemed mankind .

Michael, literally meaning as a query. Like the word manna used as a query(what is it? ) , Michael The rhetorical question .Who is like God? Well certainly not mankind the temporal as to what the eyes see. .the lust thereof.

God is Spirit .God is Light and God is Love. The triune God .Again he is not a man as us and neither is there any fleshly infallible interpreter that sits as umpire between eternal God not seen and temporal mankind seen.

The ark messengers Michael must be the Son of man, Jesus the chief apostle the same prophet who declared. . not as he wills according to the corrupted flesh but as our father in heaven wills according to the power of His Holy Spirit. Prophets have no power of their own needed to rebuke the spirit of error (legion) the father of all lies.

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Jesus the prophet as the Son of man was given words from the father the Lord. . they rebuked the legion of lying spirits.

It would seem some error when looking at the word messenger as prophets sent as apostles with the gospel of salvation. god does not refer to demons as angels "sons of God" speak of the new born again creation saints.

All our names have meanings , but those discriptions are not what we are.

Michael, Mica and others mean , who is like the Lord . Now my sons name is Michael, does this mean he is God-like ? Of course not.

Now i happen to know the Angel Michael very well . He is very serious , stout in his focus . Still humble and a great friend . He would never consider himself " God like " . But forever the servant to all.

The terms you are setting God into are only the understanding mankind sets Him into.

But what is God.

To say He is Spirit , is not correct . But this is the only way we humans can understand what God is.

He is the Creator

God created Light , the soul , the Angels, spirits . He Created.

The only thing God did not create is Love . Love is what God is.

Nothing came to be , without Love . And nothing can exist without God.

So it is safe to say God still loves Satan, as God will always love all of His creations. In His words, they are all His children

 

[Garee]

All our names have meanings , but those discriptions are not what we are.

Michael, Mica and others mean , who is like the Lord . Now my sons name is Michael, does this mean he is God-like ? Of course not.

Now i happen to know the Angel Michael very well . He is very serious , stout in his focus . Still humble and a great friend . He would never consider himself " God like " . But forever the servant to all.

The terms you are setting God into are only the understanding mankind sets Him into.

Hi thanks for the reply.

The names that God has assigned as descriptions reveal the unseen gospel understanding . The name Michael is used as rhetorical . No man is like God. God is not a man and there is no fleshly infallible interpreter set between mankind seen and eternal God who is Spirit without form . . not seen.

The word Michael (I have a step Son Michael also) The word Michael is like the word Manna. . literally meaning . . What is it ? or hidden Manna in Revelation 2:17. It would seem obvious the daily bread of His word the bread of unfamiliarity. His thoughts working in us and not the fruit of one’s own imagination of a hard heart

Manna (what is it?) was given to the faithless Israelites they desired the lukewarm food of familiarity under the lordship of mankind . . the Pharaoh who represents the father of lies the god of this world. Michael in the same way. The answer to the query ….No man is like God . Some men it sems do turn things upside down .

Jesus did the will of the unseen father not of the flesh, by which the eyes see . The unfamiliar food that the apostles knew not of, was the meat of the will or meat of the word of the father. On one occasion when one who walked by sight bowed down in veneration to the Son of man, Jesus. . and called Jesus Good Master as Lord of lord and King of kings .Jesus (not as I will but as you will Father) The Son of man refused to glory in his own flesh but gave glory to the unseen Father saying one is our Good Master as the infallible interpreter call not man on earth Good teaching master.


Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.


I can think of no reason why the title Michael as the chief prophet and apostles sent by the father cannot be part I AM. The demonstration was of two working as one. No Son, no father. Know the Father, know the Son.

Saviour = one, working as two


The greater “position” the father (not person) empowering the body of death “the lesser” and together they finished the peace of God establishing the unseen government of faith the unseen eternal .We have the same treasure working in us that did work in the Son of man, Jesus . He is not God .. he worked with Emanuel . .

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and "not" of us.

So it is safe to say God still loves Satan, as God will always love all of His creations. In His words, they are all His children

God hates all evil by not blessing it with His good .Because of sin he hates the sinner. When and if the sinner is blessed by the hearing of God's understand (faith) then he cast cast our sin as far as East is from West to be rembered no more forever more.. Lying spirits of error are never called "sons of God"