Elect according to the foreknowledge of God

[Jarhead0311]

You not paying attention to me sir !

Yes, I am paying attention, but I pay more attention to what Jesus taught. Jesus gave an invitation in which He said come and take, which for some odd reason Calvinist seem to not see.

 

[Brightfame52]

Yes, I am paying attention, but I pay more attention to what Jesus taught. Jesus gave an invitation in which He said come and take, which for some odd reason Calvinist seem to not see.

I dont see where you are paying attention, you seem to be saying anything, not even related to the topic of the thread.

 

[Jarhead0311]

I dont see where you are paying attention, you seem to be saying anything, not even related to the topic of the thread.

The topic is election according to the foreknowledge of God correct , which does NOT negate nor dismiss Jesus’ invitation to come and take.

 

[Brightfame52]

All Spiritual Blessings will be given the Elect !

Eph 1:3-4

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

All of the Elect, the Chosen of God shall be given in time, all necessary spiritual blessings to save them experientially by Grace, By Grace through Faith. They will be given a New Birth, they will be Called, and shall be experientially saved because they are the Special Chosen of God, and through Christ death all has been secured for them, He is a Complete Saviour unto them ! For God hath raised up unto Israel [ Elect People] a Saviour ! Acts 13:23

Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel[His Elect] a Saviour, Jesus:

 

[B-A-C]

Eph 1:3-4

He chose all of us. He chose all of man kind.
But being chosen isn't the complete answer.

Luke 6:13; And when day came, He called His disciples to Him and chose twelve of them, whom He also named as apostles:
John 6:70; Jesus answered them, "Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?"

Luke 10:1; Now after this the Lord appointed seventy others, and sent them in pairs ahead of Him to every city and place where He Himself was going to come.
Luke 10:17; The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name."

John 6:66; As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore.
John 6:67; So Jesus said to the twelve, "You do not want to go away also, do you?"

Also just because God foreknew who was going to accept Him or not, doesn't mean He made the for them.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

did God foreknow who was going to accept Him or not... or, did He 'foreknow' that the Head would have a body and members in particular?

I ask this because often well meaning folk repeat the idea of the foreknowlege as something that perhaps is not actually 'told' or 'conveyed'.

We are members of His body, of His flesh, and of His bones.
Ephesians 5:30

A body hast thou prepared Me.
Hebrews 10:5

Thine eyes did see My substance, yet being unperfect; and in Thy book all My members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
Psalms 139:16


Bless you ....><>

 

[Jarhead0311]

All Spiritual Blessings will be given the Elect !

Eph 1:3-4

3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

All of the Elect, the Chosen of God shall be given in time, all necessary spiritual blessings to save them experientially by Grace, By Grace through Faith. They will be given a New Birth, they will be Called, and shall be experientially saved because they are the Special Chosen of God, and through Christ death all has been secured for them, He is a Complete Saviour unto them ! For God hath raised up unto Israel [ Elect People] a Saviour ! Acts 13:23

Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel[His Elect] a Saviour, Jesus:

1Jo 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also forthe sins of the whole world.

 

[Brightfame52]

bac

He chose all of us. He chose all of man kind.

Thats false, so everything else comes to naught !

 

[Brightfame52]

1Jo 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also forthe sins of the whole world.

Thats the elect.

 

[Jarhead0311]

Thats the elect.

Wrong ! 2Pe 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies,even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

 

[Brightfame52]

Wrong ! 2Pe 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies,even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Nope I am right. Thats verse isnt about Gods elect.

 

[Brightfame52]

All of these Elect shall be preserved unto Eternal Glory, simply because they are God's very own Elect.. 1 Thess 5:23

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Who is Paul writing to here but those Chosen of God 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

1 Thess 1:4

Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

BTW, this statement indicates for sure that Paul preached Election to them in His Gospel, how else would he refer them back to that subject ? " Knowing your election of God ? The word knowing here is the greek word eido and means:

to see
to perceive with the eyes
to perceive by any of the senses
to perceive, notice, discern, discover
to see

They had discovered their Election of God, they perceived it. The word also is in the perfect tense in the greek, it was perceived in the past, a completed perception, once and for all, resulting into present perception, they will always know it !

They know it to be an act of the Father, He having Chosen them in Christ before the foundation of the world, this was Gospel Truth !

This also was can be understood as the Knowledge of the Apostle had of them being of God's Election by the way they received the word of God. They had received it as the Word of God and not of men.. 1 Thess 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

This is the same way the Elect Disciples received the word of God from Christ ! Jn 17:8

For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Thats an evidence of Election when one receives the words of God, His Gospel..

 

[Jarhead0311]

Are God’s elect part of “all” ?

Nope I am right. Thats verse isnt about Gods elect.

Wrong again the verse says Jesus is the propitation for the sins of the whole world not just the elect, and elect is NOT even in the verse you are taking the verse 1John 2:2 out of context to support your error.

 

[Brightfame52]

Are God’s elect part of “all” ?

Wrong again the verse says Jesus is the propitation for the sins of the whole world not just the elect, and elect is NOT even in the verse you are taking the verse 1John 2:2 out of context to support your error.

1 Jn 2:2 pertains to Gods elect.

 

[Jarhead0311]

1 Jn 2:2 pertains to Gods elect.

Nope wrong yet again ! Jesus say to come unto Him and take His yoke I.e. the good news which Calvinist for whatever reason do not appear to believe.

 

[Brightfame52]

Nope wrong yet again ! Jesus say to come unto Him and take His yoke I.e. the good news which Calvinist for whatever reason do not appear to believe.

That pertains to the elect. Matt 11

 

[Jarhead0311]

That pertains to the elect. Matt 11

Show me from scripture where Jesus said His invitation was for only an elect. You are placing a qualifier on salvation that Jesus nor the apostles taught.

 

[Brightfame52]

Show me from scripture where Jesus said His invitation was for only an elect. You are placing a qualifier on salvation that Jesus nor the apostles taught.

You dont listen to me. Nevertheless, its only to the elect.

 

[Jarhead0311]

You dont listen to me. Nevertheless, its only to the elect.

Yet you have not produced one single verse where Jesus taught that not one. Man made qualifiers are just that man made.

 

[Brightfame52]

Yet you have not produced one single verse where Jesus taught that not one. Man made qualifiers are just that man made.

I have explained the truth on this forum, you are not listening to me ! Thats on you