Eternity in Hell

[Cody]

Peace everyone,

I think Cody is saying by faith we are saved through Christ, and Cody is showing that faith without works is dead. (Correct me if I'm wrong Cody)

Right, brother.

 

[BrotherJame1]

Hello His Child. Peace of Christ.

Thanks a million for your input, but again some missunderstandings I see here....You say:
>>>Yahweh is that Love, and Yahshua "the Word of Yahweh" is the truth (John 1:1, John 1:14, Rev 19:13). We must go through Yahshua unto the Father.<<<

So!!! You saying that Yhaweh and Yahsua two different persons?!!!

And!!! >>> think Cody is saying by faith we are saved through Christ, and Cody is showing that faith without works is dead. (Correct me if I'm wrong Cody)<<<
My Name is James, not Cody...and I would like you to explain clear what is the meaning of "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD">.....can you..

God Bless......................Brother James

 

[Cody]

Hello His Child. Peace of Christ.

Thanks a million for your input, but again some missunderstandings I see here....You say:
>>>Yahweh is that Love, and Yahshua "the Word of Yahweh" is the truth (John 1:1, John 1:14, Rev 19:13). We must go through Yahshua unto the Father.<<<

So!!! You saying that Yhaweh and Yahsua two different persons?!!!

And!!! >>> think Cody is saying by faith we are saved through Christ, and Cody is showing that faith without works is dead. (Correct me if I'm wrong Cody)<<<
My Name is James, not Cody...and I would like you to explain clear what is the meaning of "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD">.....can you..

God Bless......................Brother James

Faith without works means we are saved by faith and not works. Our works are a result of our faith, but not something that saves us. God holds the power to save us.

 

[Cody]

Easy with the exclamations marks

I think some works would be...

Praying, reading the Bible, witnessing, obeying the Spirit, things like that and etc.

God Bless you too

 

[Chad]

Hello Cody. Peace of Christ.

Thanks a million for your post....you say:
[I think some works would be...

Praying, reading the Bible, witnessing, obeying the Spirit, things like that and etc.

God Bless you too..

You say,....."I THINK"!!!!!..and what does God Think?!!!!! Read:

Ephesians 2:8For it is BY GRACE that you have been saved, Through Faith..
and this not from yourselves it is the GIFT (what is this Gift?!!!) of God 9Not by works, so that no-one can boast
10 For "WE ARE GOD'S WORKMENSHIP" Created In Jesus Christ to do "GOOD WORKS" (Romans 7:16 I agree that the Law is GOOD)..which God PREPARED IN ADVANCE for us "TO DO".= 2 John 6 And this is LOVE that we walk in OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS as it was since the beginning, His comand is that "WE WALK IN LOVE"....I see you didn't mention any of this...or!!! this are not the works God reffers to...too?!!!!!
Let me ask you something brother....What is "SIN" according to the bible?...and who does the bible calls a sinner, and where all the sinners will be sent to?....

God Bless you.......................Brother James

Your post is hard to read and you inserting your many comments within the Scripture you quoted doesn't help much to read your post easily. I asked you twice now via pm to use the quote function but you ignored me. Why?

As brother Cody mentioned humbly before, easy with the exclamation marks. One is enough if you want to emphasize something. Ten is considered arrogant.

This is also not the first time you've misquoted someone on the forum Just because he said "I think" does not mean he was depending on his own understanding. He is simply stating what he believes what GOD says in Scripture.

Try being humble from now on.

 

[Cody]

Hello Cody. Peace of Christ.

Thanks a million for your post....you say:

[I think some works would be...

Praying, reading the Bible, witnessing, obeying the Spirit, things like that and etc.

God Bless you too..

You say,....."I THINK"!!!!!..and what does God Think?!!!!! Read:

Ephesians 2:8For it is BY GRACE that you have been saved, Through Faith..
and this not from yourselves it is the GIFT (what is this Gift?!!!) of God 9Not by works, so that no-one can boast
10 For "WE ARE GOD'S WORKMENSHIP" Created In Jesus Christ to do "GOOD WORKS" (Romans 7:16 I agree that the Law is GOOD)..which God PREPARED IN ADVANCE for us "TO DO".= 2 John 6 And this is LOVE that we walk in OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS as it was since the beginning, His comand is that "WE WALK IN LOVE"....I see you didn't mention any of this...or!!! this are not the works God reffers to...too?!!!!!
Let me ask you something brother....What is "SIN" according to the bible?...and who does the bible calls a sinner, and where all the sinners will be sent to?....

God Bless you.......................Brother James

Wouldn't obeying the spirit be walking in love? I mentioned that, plus I said etc. A sin is something done against God. The Bible tells us all the sins.

Sinners without the Blood of Christ will be sent to Hell, but if you have the Blood applied your sins are forgiven.

 

[His Child]

Reply to BrotherJame1

Hello His Child. Peace of Christ.

So!!! You saying that Yhaweh and Yahsua two different persons?!!!

Sorry for the late reply. I just now saw your post. I don't know how to find my posts. When I search using my user name all kinds of posts show up.

Anyway I do not believe that Yahshua Messiah is Yahweh the Father.

I believe the Father in spirit dwells in His son.

* The teachings that Yahshua gave were not his own (John 7:16)
* Yahshua did not seek his own glory (John 8:50)
* Yahshua is on the right side of the Father in heaven (1Pet 3:22)
* Yahshua is subject unto the Father that put all things under him (1Cor 15:27-28)
* The Father is greater than Yahshua (John 10:29)
* Mankind didn't crucify the Father (Luke 23:34)

Those are a few, but I think they are enough.

Hope that helps

His Child

 

[nzdaughter]

Hi I just read 'The Bait of Satan' and couldn't put it down. I'm quite concerned about Salvation more than I was before, after reading this book and hearing from other sources that God said not all who call Him Lord will enter His kingdom. It says in the last days many 'will be offended', and also, that many will not be saved.
Being a believer who has wrestled with a (past) penchant for unforgiveness, bitterness, and revenge, I definitely know I will work against any future challenges. With prayer I have gained a forgiving heart, Hallelujah! I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. In the end we can only rely on God's grace but His mercy is great.

 

[rizen1]

Were these questions already answered ?

I think some works would be...

Praying, reading the Bible, witnessing, obeying the Spirit, things like that and etc.

God Bless you too..

You say,....."I THINK"!!!!!..and what does God Think?!!!!! Read:

Ephesians 2:8For it is BY GRACE that you have been saved, Through Faith..
and this not from yourselves it is the GIFT (what is this Gift?!!!) of God 9Not by works, so that no-one can boast
10 For "WE ARE GOD'S WORKMENSHIP" Created In Jesus Christ to do "GOOD WORKS" (Romans 7:16 I agree that the Law is GOOD)..which God PREPARED IN ADVANCE for us "TO DO".= 2 John 6 And this is LOVE that we walk in OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS as it was since the beginning, His comand is that "WE WALK IN LOVE"....I see you didn't mention any of this...or!!! this are not the works God reffers to...too?!!!!!
Let me ask you something brother....What is "SIN" according to the bible?...and who does the bible calls a sinner, and where all the sinners will be sent to?....

 

[hannahflock]

A question of how much grace?

'How much grace would one need in order to be saved?' a friend asked me. I tried not to get angry for I realised that she wasn't jabbing at me - she was serious. I considered and then I said 'when you are with God there is no question of quantities or amounts, for God is infinite and how can one measure a drop against the infinite sea.'
She has not spoken to me since.
Strong is the darkside and thin is the beam that penetrates the void. Yet the beam is also infinite.

 

[His Child]

Reply

'How much grace would one need in order to be saved?' a friend asked me. I tried not to get angry for I realised that she wasn't jabbing at me - she was serious. I considered and then I said 'when you are with God there is no question of quantities or amounts, for God is infinite and how can one measure a drop against the infinite sea.'
She has not spoken to me since.
Strong is the darkside and thin is the beam that penetrates the void. Yet the beam is also infinite.

Peace Hannahflock

I think she has a reasonable question, as how much grace "pardon" will be given to those who take the mark of the beast and worship it's image?

That's just one example, and Christ says many will fall away in the last days. Taking the mark might be one of the many reasons why...


His Child

 

[rizen1]

'when you are with God there is no question of quantities or amounts, for God is infinite and how can one measure a drop against the infinite sea.'

Great answer, thats my quote of the Day.
I gave it :star::star::star::star::star:

 

[SpiritLedEd]

It is a mistake, in my opinion, to view God's grace as being quantifiable, something to be measured out in doses like a medication. Such a teaching takes His grace out of the realm of the infinite (which is only understood perfectly by God Himself) and brings it down to the level of the finite, the level of man's flawed reasoning.

SLE

 

[Richie]

Reply to Brother Jame1

Dear Brother Jame1,

I'm very glad that you replied to me. When I said "I pray that you will be able to understand, how urgently we need to win souls for God's Kingdom. Amen" as the conclusion, I really meant it to be for our lost family and friends in particular, because I mentioned about them in that post.

When I talked about our lost friends (especially the non-christians), some of them are usually cruel, bad and evil mannered, etc and we really don't like to keep such a company, but some of them are very sincere, humble, don't lie to you, don't cheat you, don't stab you behind the back, help you in every way. It really hurts to see such kind of people lost. "Some them behave a lot better than many people who call themselves Christians." Ofcourse we will definitely tell them about the Lord. Some of them will accept, but some of them will not accept the Lord, but we will still have a feeling that some of our friends are lost.

We can apply the same thing to our lost family members too, but when I posted the previous post I didn't realize the fact that this is something which takes His grace out of the realm of the infinite (which is only understood perfectly by God Himself) and brings it down to the level of the finite, the level of man's flawed reasoning. But thanks to our Brother SpiritLed for the reply he sent me, that I realized this in his reply.

If we think in this direction, the real vision what the Lord has given us will be diluted, which is a dangerous trap from satan, but all we can do is nothing but pray for them (ofcourse we will be telling them about the Lord) because we all believe that God answers prayer.

God bless you.

 

[Richie]

Dear Brother SpiritLedEd,

Thank you for replying to me. When I seen you reply, there's one thing I realized, "If we feel hurt because of a lost soul, the real vision what the Lord has given us (to win souls), gets diluted". This is surely a trap from satan. I realized that feeling sorry for a lost soul is not the solution but we have to pray for the lost souls and tell them about the Lord and His grace and mercy.

I'm so grateful to you because of your post, the Lord has changed my direction of thinking in this matter.

God bless you.

 

[nzdaughter]

Must say I've been experiencing a lack of peace somewhat in my heart regarding various testimonies from other links which I read recently. It's very real. But praise God who has overcome the world and can conquer everything. I pray for increased faith obedience and trust in The Lord and in His gift of eternal life for all followers in Jesus' name Amen.

 

[william_kiddjr]

sadly not every one is going to make to heaven

 

[stephen]

Throughout history, the Christian belief in the conscious , eternal punishment of the unsaved has been attacked. Some have rejected hell as an outdated myth, unfit for the modern mind. Others have regarded hell as a useless teaching that turns an otherwise gracious God into a vengeful monster

We must admit that from a strictly human perspective, hell seems like an extreme sentence in most cases - especially for 'good' people who have never had the chance to hear the gospel. It should be no surprise that even Christians would try to find alternative explanations for the biblical teaching on hell.
For example, some regard the language of eternal fire to be a symbol for annihilation (nonexistence), while others view the suffering of the wicked as temporary, ending in ultimate salvation for all

Yes...hell is a difficult and uncomfortable doctrine. But before we dismiss it as outdated, cruel, or even unbiblical, we should take a closer look. When we do we'll realise that the reasons for rejecting the doctrine of hell do not stand up to reason, or to scripture.

Hell is a dreadful reality, and Christians should be the first to acknowledge this. Bible believing Christians have different views on the actual details of hell. But most accept that hell is eternal separation from God.


The good news is that Jesus Christ died and rose again from the dead to save people from hell

 

[spirit1st]

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.


Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Basically, both the righteous and wicked are resurrected with an incorible, immortal body(I Cor 15, Matt 25) thus Hell will burn forever because their bodies can not be consumed.

I cor 15
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Matthew 25
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 100%; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif; MARGIN-LEFT: auto; FONT-SIZE: 100%; MARGIN-RIGHT: auto" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>31</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>32</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>33</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>34</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>35</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>36</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>37</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>38</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>39</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>40</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>41</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>42</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>43</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>44</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>45</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.</TD></TR><TR><TD class=t_verse vAlign=top>46</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100%" class=t_text vAlign=top>And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>