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FBI raid Trumps Mar-a-lago home

Brother Paul said:
Sorry, but like our other brother you are incorrect. I absolutely did do my research and I am going to give you a path to follow that I pray, as a follower of Jesus, seeking truth, that you will engage and not just believe this propaganda.

Explore (all who are interested in the facts) "MANDATORY Declassification Review" within the guidelines outlined by the federal Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO). The request for declassification MUST BE submitted in writing to EACH originating agency and MUST describe EACH document with sufficient specificity unless over 70 years old. They then take the document and review, line by line, to see if the reason for the request is justified (which it usually is with few exceptions). This takes time.

Then the reasoning for their conclusions are sent (in writing) to the person requesting the declassification along with details regarding possible appeals. If they approved then they can be declassified IN WRITING and signed by the requestor. IF NOT then the requestor MUST follow through with the outlined documented procedures for an appeals request. They go before a non-Partisan committee of Federal Magistrates to plead their case (or have their lawyers do it) but even this process is specifically documented for reasons of National Security.

So yes one needs to do their research and I certainly have. In this detailed process we get a specific and clearly outlined record of who handled the documents and when each did and what their job was and when they were returned (hence the idea of chain of Custody). Now PLEASE actually look this up and you will see that this is correct (regardless of what we would like to believe).

Next, the 4th amendment case will be lost by ex-President Trump because the Search and Seizure were 100% legal and reasonable based on his unwillingness to do what the Subpoena required (not to mention the prior "reasonable" requests).

So he did NOT declassify these Documents. They were in his possession although at first he denied it. Many were Classified and some Top Secret (which TS even as President he likely would not have been able to declassify unless they were very old and irrelevant). Now that is the TRUTH not the propaganda. As a result the ex-President is guilty of Obstruction of Justice. Now whether or not he ever sees a day in court is another matter because the rich and connected rarely are subject to the same system of justice that you or I would have to forego.

Now I love you. You are my Fam. But do not say that I did not do my research, because I did, and now I challenge YOU to dig in to Mandatory Declassification Review and see what you find. Ex-President Trump DID NOT follow the procedural protocols required by law in declassification or removal.

Just the Truth. We all accumulate strongholds in our minds, but truth sets us free. We can all have opinions, but reality remains reality and he has committed a crime. Now be aware that the programming in most people's cases makes them automatically at this point divert or misdirect to other issues, or focus on other people and their issues, so try to not let that happen and just look into the MANDATORY process for declassification. Every step is legally overseen and recorded. That did not happen. Also I am NOT a democrat.

May the Holy Spirit lead us and guide us into all truth. Amen
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Reguardless of everything else, ex[residents leave the White House with documents, they, the seated Presidents, declassify, just as President Trump did, period.
 
th1bill said:
Reguardless of everything else, ex[residents leave the White House with documents, they, the seated Presidents, declassify, just as President Trump did, period.
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Well it is not "period" at all because as I said, all Presidents can and do declassify documents while in office but they MUST follow the proper outlined protocols for doing so. It is mandatory, not optional, and none of these "Classified" or "Top Secret" documents did former President Trump go that. So NO the documents he took (without proper authorization) were NOT de-Classified and therefore CANNOT, under any circumstance be taken. He knew very well that this was illegal.

Also NO. Other Presidents do NOT leave (or ever have that history records) with un-De-Classified or Top Secret documents. All Presidents DO LEAVE with personal "declassified" documents and are sent Documents for their Libraries from the National Archive later, after they leave office (which are carefully reviewed and cataloged leaving a distinct and accurate paper trail). He stole them and then denied having them and got caught and then refused two requests to return them and then when Subpornad he only returned a few boxes, then his Lawyer lied (and also got caught lying). HIS PEOPLE were involved in catching the former President. That is for real. I have no vested interest in Biden of the DNC and none at all in two-face. This is not about Democrats or Liberals, it is about truth and the law of the land. Plain and simply a crime was committed and he got caught. He needs to grow up, Do the crime then do the time and if he had simply followed proper procedure while IN OFFICE, OR had turned them over when lawfully requested, people would not even be talking about this mess.

But he didn't and wouldn't, and now he should be indicted, just like you or I if we had done something like that. Read the "Mandatory Declassification Review" which explains the process (the one ALL Presidents follow).
 
StewardoftheMystery said:
Judge Who OKd FBI Raid Had Links to Jeffrey Epstein

This judge sounds like a real winner. (Not)
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Both the judge and Christopher Wray (director of the FBI) were appointed by Trump! As for the judge it does not surprise me since DJT (as well as Billy boy Clinton, Leon Black, Prince Andrew, roger Stone, John Glen, and Woody Allen, etc.) was Epstein's party buddy for 2 decades. You so know that Epstein is where Trump met and had sex with Melania while married (to a wife he had sex with while marries to Ivana). But whjat can we expect from a goat (Matthew 25: 31-46)?
 
Brother Paul said:
Well it is not "period" at all because as I said, all Presidents can and do declassify documents while in office but they MUST follow the proper outlined protocols for doing so. It is mandatory, not optional, and none of these "Classified" or "Top Secret" documents did former President Trump go that. So NO the documents he took (without proper authorization) were NOT de-Classified and therefore CANNOT, under any circumstance be taken. He knew very well that this was illegal.

Also NO. Other Presidents do NOT leave (or ever have that history records) with un-De-Classified or Top Secret documents. All Presidents DO LEAVE with personal "declassified" documents and are sent Documents for their Libraries from the National Archive later, after they leave office (which are carefully reviewed and cataloged leaving a distinct and accurate paper trail). He stole them and then denied having them and got caught and then refused two requests to return them and then when Subpornad he only returned a few boxes, then his Lawyer lied (and also got caught lying). HIS PEOPLE were involved in catching the former President. That is for real. I have no vested interest in Biden of the DNC and none at all in two-face. This is not about Democrats or Liberals, it is about truth and the law of the land. Plain and simply a crime was committed and he got caught. He needs to grow up, Do the crime then do the time and if he had simply followed proper procedure while IN OFFICE, OR had turned them over when lawfully requested, people would not even be talking about this mess.

But he didn't and wouldn't, and now he should be indicted, just like you or I if we had done something like that. Read the "Mandatory Declassification Review" which explains the process (the one ALL Presidents follow).
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You are correc5t

StewardoftheMystery said:

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Well I never was a Biden fan (and even less a Harris fan) but the law is the law and IF it turns out these docs were not Documents from his own administration (the Obama Administration) AND it turns out they were from other Administrations or Agencies, THEN he was required to follow at minimum the MDR (ex-Pres Trump did not, thus stole them) and IF Biden did not follow these protocols then he is guilty (like Trump) and should ALSO be indicted and tried. No problem here.

What I do have a problem with however is this source. Carlson's own lawyers said "No reasonable person believes what he says are facts". So are you a reasonable person? The man has got caught in so many boldfaced lies its ridiculous. Remember when he lied and tried to claim more people voted than are registered? Please the guy is a Scheister!
 
Brother Paul said:
Both the judge and Christopher Wray (director of the FBI) were appointed by Trump! As for the judge it does not surprise me since DJT (as well as Billy boy Clinton, Leon Black, Prince Andrew, roger Stone, John Glen, and Woody Allen, etc.) was Epstein's party buddy for 2 decades. You so know that Epstein is where Trump met and had sex with Melania while married (to a wife he had sex with while marries to Ivana). But whjat can we expect from a goat (Matthew 25: 31-46)?
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And the evidence that proves your not a liar is......?
 
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