Former President Trump Shot

[MedicBravo]

Same goes for anyone belonging to any group.
In this, signing up and doing the opposite does NOT make one that thing.
Actions are the definer.

 

[Brother Paul]

Yes, I did see killers registration paper. Regardless, to me - if he was a registered Republican or not. I think he only registered to get close to Trump at that rally. And in truth he is a Democrat.

Either way he tried to shoot someone! The weapons of OUR warfare are not carnal. What matters to me is that he was not doing evil while claiming to be of Christ.

 

[Hekuran]

Solely? Of course not. That's absurd.
Oh well. People are going to give facts and evidence and opinions whether you like it or asked for it or not.
Politics has been around almost as long as we have.

I'm home from a long day at work.
America is not a Christian country but it is HEAVILY and largely created and influenced by Christian principles and beliefs.

Look at what the Left and Right believe and you should have a link. What is conveniently missing from the Left's list is "by force" after every one.

Left/Democrat/Communist/Dictator - All the same thing.

Start with God's Moral Law.
Judge yourself. If ANYTHING God has said and you don't like or believe otherwise then that's your problem.

Optimally, we are to value all life including "theirs" but at the cost of more harm and death they must be stopped.
In truth, that will mean the death of those people b/c the greater good is stopping that Evil by any means necessary.
Again, there is no middle ground.
God is not on the side of the Left and those I listed.
If you uphold the values of the Left which are not Christian then what are you?

That doesn't answer my question.

I am committed to non-violence. I believe that righteous ends can be reached only by righteous means. And my political leanings are left of centre.

Why am I to blame for the assassination attempt?

 

[MedicBravo]

That doesn't answer my question.

I am committed to non-violence. I believe that righteous ends can be reached only by righteous means. And my political leanings are left of centre.

Why am I to blame for the assassination attempt?

Why are you Left at all?
Those beliefs are not Christian or good.
The Left wants President Trump, Christians, and all non-Left dead.
There are only Christians and lost/unsaved.

 

[Brother Paul]

Why are you Left at all?
Those beliefs are not Christian or good.
The Left wants President Trump, Christians, and all non-Left dead.
There are only Christians and lost/unsaved.

You must be either brainwashed or insane because if you actually have read about the Lord in the Bible, you would know the Lord could NEVER support a Self glorifying, continuously adulterous 2 decade party buddy of a Sex Trafficker (Bill. Clinton either). Especially one who insists on full authority and absolute immunity like every dictatorial type through all time (Roman Emperors, King George, Mussolini, Hitler, Castro, Kim
Jung_Un, Franco, and on and on).

Please hear this (and I am Not left or right I am a follower of the Lord Jesus). Those who will not learn from history are DOOMED to repeat it!!!

YHVH directs us in Isaiah 58:6-12 and JESUS explains a criteria in Matthew 25:31-46 that defined how we love our neighbor as ourself (read these out loud). Do not be fooled. Many think or claim to be Christian who are not (Matthew 7:21-23; 25:1-13). Real ones have the same Spirit that Jesus had (Romans 8:9). He cared for the poor, wanted the hungry fed, the sick healed, the oppressed set free, and so on. "Christian" means Christ like. BE what you claim because even the elect can be deceived (Matthew 24:24).

I am no fan of Biden and less of Harris but History and our Lord have determined we must not support any who insist on full authority and absolute immunity. They are evil even with the power to deceive. Follow JESUS. Be like JESUS. Accomplish His goals. Do what He wants us to do. I for one am praying for you. Repent (metanao - to change one's mind) and transform yourself.

 

[Hekuran]

Why are you Left at all?
Those beliefs are not Christian or good.
The Left wants President Trump, Christians, and all non-Left dead.
There are only Christians and lost/unsaved.

That still does nothing to give substance to your accusation that I am to blame for the attempt to kill Donald Trump.

Some of my reasons for leaning left politically are outlined in my first post on this thread.

I don't know where you got the idea that the left wants Christians dead, but you've been misinformed.

 

[MedicBravo]

You must be either brainwashed or insane because if you actually have read about the Lord in the Bible, you would know the Lord could NEVER support a Self glorifying, continuously adulterous 2 decade party buddy of a Sex Trafficker (Bill. Clinton either). Especially one who insists on full authority and absolute immunity like every dictatorial type through all time (Roman Emperors, King George, Mussolini, Hitler, Castro, Kim
Jung_Un, Franco, and on and on).

Please hear this (and I am Not left or right I am a follower of the Lord Jesus). Those who will not learn from history are DOOMED to repeat it!!!

YHVH directs us in Isaiah 58:6-12 and JESUS explains a criteria in Matthew 25:31-46 that defined how we love our neighbor as ourself (read these out loud). Do not be fooled. Many think or claim to be Christian who are not (Matthew 7:21-23; 25:1-13). Real ones have the same Spirit that Jesus had (Romans 8:9). He cared for the poor, wanted the hungry fed, the sick healed, the oppressed set free, and so on. "Christian" means Christ like. BE what you claim because even the elect can be deceived (Matthew 24:24).

I am no fan of Biden and less of Harris but History and our Lord have determined we must not support any who insist on full authority and absolute immunity. They are evil even with the power to deceive. Follow JESUS. Be like JESUS. Accomplish His goals. Do what He wants us to do. I for one am praying for you. Repent (metanao - to change one's mind) and transform yours

Untrue.
God supported and changed countless people who've done FAR worse than Trump and people with their severe TDS.
Until things change or Jesus comes then we've only two options and Pedo Joe and the Left are NOT an option if you're a Christian and Patriot.

Accusations are not evidence of guilt.

 

[MedicBravo]

That still does nothing to give substance to your accusation that I am to blame for the attempt to kill Donald Trump.

Some of my reasons for leaning left politically are outlined in my first post on this thread.

I don't know where you got the idea that the left wants Christians dead, but you've been misinformed.

I don't believe anyone on that side.
Many have NO problems saything online or elsewhere. You show your commitment to being Left or whatever but God and Christianity holds no Left/communist/evil beliefs.

 

[Hekuran]

I don't believe anyone on that side.
Many have NO problems saything online or elsewhere. You show your commitment to being Left or whatever but God and Christianity holds no Left/communist/evil beliefs.

You have so far offered absolutely nothing to give substance to your claim that I am at fault. Maybe it was just an angry moment with rash words that you didn't think through?

 

[MedicBravo]

You have so far offered absolutely nothing to give substance to your claim that I am at fault. Maybe it was just an angry moment with rash words that you didn't think through?

No. I am in control of my emotions unlike the Left.
I didn't call you out specifically yet 3x now that's been your argument.
If anyone on the Left had any common sense and some level of Good in them they'd have abandoned that group and those "beliefs" instantly.
No Christian gets to cherry pick the Bible and claim "Christian".
No Conservative would be accepted by the Left b/c the latter's beliefs are so damaging.

A group that feels that killing those that aren't on their side is NOT one to be on.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Being a ex Navy Seal I have to bring something I am sure many could be disturbed by. How is it that Secret service snipers could not see the building right across from them?? And then right after shoots were taken, 5 in all then and only then did the Secret service sniper fire back killing the baddie? Could this have been planned?? Something stinks to me about this! People saw the bad guy with a rife climb up to the building!! They told local police!! Something to me is very wrong about this incident gang!

It is suspicious, there is video of people filming the sniper 2 minutes and 20 seconds before he shot. You can hear people yelling at the police that there is a gun man on the roof.

The secret service snipers were scoping the sniper BEFORE he shot.
Watch this video, and pay attention to the secret service snipers on the roof.

 

[Hekuran]

No. I am in control of my emotions unlike the Left.
I didn't call you out specifically yet 3x now that's been your argument.
If anyone on the Left had any common sense and some level of Good in them they'd have abandoned that group and those "beliefs" instantly.
No Christian gets to cherry pick the Bible and claim "Christian".
No Conservative would be accepted by the Left b/c the latter's beliefs are so damaging.

A group that feels that killing those that aren't on their side is NOT one to be on.

Are you now saying that I'm not at fault regarding the assassination attempt? Earlier you said

"If anyone here is STILL on the Left, YOU are at fault."

And, just to be clear, a good number of my friends are conservative. I am happy to call them brothers and sisters regardless of our differing political views.

 

[Christ4Ever]

All authority is God given! Now what individuals do with that is upon them. The hope in truth is that they are seekers of God, and even more then that believers in Christ Jesus as their Lord & Savior. Though in the times/society that we are living in, the latter happening in political office are becoming more difficult to come by.

So, instead of arguing left and right, we should be talking saved/unsaved, and how we as vessels can be used to bring those in the dark, into the light, and if there are Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus who feel moved to work in politics, that we should support them, most especially in our prayers. Knowing that the rest will work itself out, because our God knows what He is doing and be comforted by the knowledge that He wins in the end! \o/

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

In the news….
The local Pennsylvania sheriff defended the armed officer who encountered former President Donald Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks on the rooftop moments before the shooting — claiming it was the right call to retreat after the gunman pointed the weapon at him.

Butler County Sheriff Michael Slupe confirmed Monday that a local officer made contact with Crooks after being hoisted up to the roof by another officer — but fled when the sniper pointed his AR-style assault rifle at the officer.

“I would have done the same thing, absolutely,” the sheriff said.(End quote)

I thought when someone points a gun at any police officer they would get shot immediately. Not so in this case.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Here is what does not add up to me. The police were informed of a gun man on the roof about 2 minutes before he began shooting.

The police and secret service have communications and radios where they can relay information in just seconds right?

So why wasn’t that information relayed to the secret service agents and police guarding Trump IMMEDIATELY!

Trump should have been rushed off the stage even before the first shots were taken. You can’t tell me they did not have radio communications going on BEFORE the shooting.

That is what needs to be investigated.

 

[brighthouse98]

First, I would check the shooters bank account, is there a large increase to it?? If so, who gave him the money? I want an independent council free of all Government blockage to give we the people the REAL TRUTH!! The shooter was spotted 26 full min ahead of the shooting!! When the Secret Service Director was asked what happened, she said we screwed up, when I believe she should have said, ah we missed!!

Some Secret service personal I fully believe were behind this! And just like J.F.K I hope this one we find the whole truth and nothing but the truth!! This stinks to high heaven!! It's awful quiet some 72 hours now after this incident!! I wonder what kind of cover story they are going to lay on us??

To those who are not aware of what a cover story is, it is a statement given like they did when I fought in Vietnam, something the sheep will by! Well, I am no sheep pal!!! I have friends in high up ladies and gentlemen I will keep digging and when I find out something for certain I will let you all know! There is no place they are going to hide this time!! We will get the real truth brothers and sisters!! I thank the Lord for protecting him for the angel of the Lord was surly with him! ( Psalm 91:11-12)

 

[SheepMary]

I need to jump in here. God chose Trump. God told me Trump would suffer using Paul as an example. Nevertheless, God did choose Donald Trump not only in 2016 -- Jesus told me to vote for Trump, I obeyed and watched the election with Jesus and cried when Trump won. Then I subscribed to the Whitehouse news feed and for the next 4 years I received only OFFICIAL news from the Whitehouse because I do not watch TV.

Trump was by far the BEST president this nation has seen in my 50 years, and perhaps the best ever. God did so much good through Trump -- but GOD did it, not Trump. The people who hate Trump watch TV, the lying media that I never watched. I got the truth from the truth and I tell you there was not a better POTUS, ever. So stay away from the lying media which is all owned by a very small group of people with a horrible, horrible agenda. (Ask Jesus)

Trump also won in 2020 but God used / allowed big tech to place Traitor Joe into the Whitehouse to punish and shame the USA. Exactly what happened; our country has suffered massive, massive disgrace, loss, deaths, horrendous inflation, etc. Essentially God used Biden to EXILE the entire USA to Babylon; and God did it deliberately and told me about it in advance. It has been horrible, though through it, thankfully, God has been good to me. , . I am in Wisconsin and 270,000 voters including myself were disenfranchised when our government was overthrown and Joe entered into the Whitehouse. The corruption was so easy to see. God told me in advance that out government would be overthrown, and it was -- Trump won by a landslide and the proof is very easy to find. So, so many of my brothers and sisters and I have been in shock and awe that such a thing could be done, but, praise be to God, God did it.

And another fact while I have your attention. God gave Trump a miracle at the PA rally the other night. That was the hand of God, Trump should not have survived. 3 bullets fired that I counted, and then the police /SS/ millitary ??? returned fire and killed the 20yr old shooter. One dead man in the audience, the bullet that grazed Trump, then at least one other injury if I remember correctly. Then the 3 shots that took out the shooter. God gave Trump a miracle -- he should be dead. And I know for certain Trump has been given certain Scriptures and told to "protect life." God knows what He's doing. I hope it's for our good, but even if it's not, I will be safe in the Lord.

Walk softly, and praise the Lord as you do.
Much love, Mary


And God has a Word about the left:
A wise man’s heart inclines him to the right, but a fool’s heart to the left. Ecc 10:2

Take that directly from the mouth of God and repent and return to God in Jesus Christ. Those in Christ are of one mind, so either you're new, slow to convert, or not yet born of the Spirit. Work this out with God.

 

[MaryB08]

Here is what does not add up to me. The police were informed of a gun man on the roof about 2 minutes before he began shooting.

The police and secret service have communications and radios where they can relay information in just seconds right?

So why wasn’t that information relayed to the secret service agents and police guarding Trump IMMEDIATELY!

Trump should have been rushed off the stage even before the first shots were taken. You can’t tell me they did not have radio communications going on BEFORE the shooting.

That is what needs to be investigated.

God planned it this way. Trump who had just spearheaded the removal of "life" from the party platform received his miracle from God in that Trump's life was spared by miracle when he should be dead; since then Trump has been told "protect life." I'm calling it an act of God, Trump now has first hand knowledge/understanding of what it's like to almost have your life taken. Doubtful he will forget... God was sovereign over all the events because God wanted to use them for His purposes.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Here is where the failure occurred…

In the news….

CNN reported that attendees saw 20-year-old Thomas Crooks acting strangely close to the rally metal detectors. Local police enforcement was alerted and they purportedly warned the Secret Service to be on the lookout for him over their radios.

In addition, he was said to have been observed entering the rally with a rifle outside of a security checkpoint. Later, he was allegedly seen jumping “roof to roof” before arriving at the AGR facility.

Prior to eventually reacting to reports of an armed man on the AGR roof, it appears that police were unable to locate him during the period those alerts were sent out.

According to law enforcement officials who spoke with the Associated Press, (end quote)

SO the police DID warn the Secret service well BEFORE the shooter even got on the roof.

Trump should have been removed from the stage well before the shooter had a opportunity to take a shot.

 

[MaryB08]

It is suspicious, there is video of people filming the sniper 2 minutes and 20 seconds before he shot. You can hear people yelling at the police that there is a gun man on the roof.

The secret service snipers were scoping the sniper BEFORE he shot.
Watch this video, and pay attention to the secret service snipers on the roof.

BBC has way better footage than US news. I think you're looking at the wrong roof. Shooter was not inside of the event but outside of the event. Take a look here: Videos show how gunman shot at Trump despite public alerting police