Former President Trump Shot

[MedicBravo]

What many seem to ignore and/or forget is that with God.... people tend to do things b/c they WANT to of their free will.

Competition is great for humanity.
The free market is great for humanity.
People help, donate, whatever b/c they want to not b/c Leftoids/Dems/Communists hide behind "distribution of goods and services b/c of fairness".
You can NOT build others up by taking away from others.
Universal Healthcare? "Everyone gets medical care!" Nah. Not that simple.
No country has done well in all areas.
No country can be free or mostly free of it's problems.

Take Leftoid beliefs and Conservative values and compare them to God and the Bible. You'll find we are consistent with Him and it than the Left can ever be.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear @MedicBravo
To make a general statement as you have been about the left/right being this or that is wrong.
Everyone falls into political categories that vary. Nobody is straight liberal/conservative either.
You have in your writing put everyone into 2 baskets, either/or. As a Christian you shouldn't be doing that. Otherwise, can I say you're not a Christian if you don't?

From my perspective like the question on being a Christian which I made and like the ones you've been making here on this thread, is incorrect. People have a tendency to gravitate towards what suits them the most or what benefits them and theirs the most when it comes to politics. Personal likes or dislikes for Christians should have nothing to do with either.

We are not a Republic, Democracy, Communist, etc., but in truth we believers should be seeing through the lens of a theocracy. God at the top, and everything else from/through Him. Even though we are to respect the authorities we are currently living under. For as I've stated before, all authority is God given. Left or Right!

So, please stop with the accusatory writing by category you are making. If you want to delve into different subjects i.e., border security, crime, voting ID's, abortion etc., which can have a liberal/conservative, or right/left/middle bent to it, then fine. Though try to not go too far afield from the thread subject matter as you have done here.

Just remember that your experiences are not the only experiences out there. Many of us, or can I say all of us have unique experiences to which we fall back to, and though you may never have met a liberal who is against Abortion, or a Conservative that is for it, truth be told they are out there and just because you say they can't be that or this because of it, doesn't make it so. Not everyone who professes certain political views even believe in God, much less our Jesus, be they liberal or conservative or what have you!

Remember scripture and know that God uses a variety of conditions to have his will done. Think on Israel, Babylon, Egypt trifecta in the OT. Who told Israel to surrender to Babylon (aggressor), and not to turn to Egypt (allied)? There are other examples out there, that show you that how you may think things are (small picture), and how God sees things (Big Picture), and whether they agree or not, are not necessarily the reality. So, keep that in mind when tossing out categories of vindictiveness on people who are brethren in Christ Jesus, though they may disagree politically with you. If you don't, then you are more left than you realize!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[MedicBravo]

Dear @MedicBravo
To make a general statement as you have been about the left/right being this or that is wrong.
Everyone falls into political categories that vary. Nobody is straight liberal/conservative either.
You have in your writing put everyone into 2 baskets, either/or. As a Christian you shouldn't be doing that. Otherwise, can I say you're not a Christian if you don't?

From my perspective like the question on being a Christian which I made and like the ones you've been making here on this thread, is incorrect. People have a tendency to gravitate towards what suits them the most or what benefits them and theirs the most when it comes to politics. Personal likes or dislikes for Christians should have nothing to do with either.

We are not a Republic, Democracy, Communist, etc., but in truth we believers should be seeing through the lens of a theocracy. God at the top, and everything else from/through Him. Even though we are to respect the authorities we are currently living under. For as I've stated before, all authority is God given. Left or Right!

So, please stop with the accusatory writing by category you are making. If you want to delve into different subjects i.e., border security, crime, voting ID's, abortion etc., which can have a liberal/conservative, or right/left/middle bent to it, then fine. Though try to not go too far afield from the thread subject matter as you have done here.

Just remember that your experiences are not the only experiences out there. Many of us, or can I say all of us have unique experiences to which we fall back to, and though you may never have met a liberal who is against Abortion, or a Conservative that is for it, truth be told they are out there and just because you say they can't be that or this because of it, doesn't make it so. Not everyone who professes certain political views even believe in God, much less our Jesus, be they liberal or conservative or what have you!

Remember scripture and know that God uses a variety of conditions to have his will done. Think on Israel, Babylon, Egypt trifecta in the OT. Who told Israel to surrender to Babylon (aggressor), and not to turn to Egypt (allied)? There are other examples out there, that show you that how you may think things are (small picture), and how God sees things (Big Picture), and whether they agree or not, are not necessarily the reality. So, keep that in mind when tossing out categories of vindictiveness on people who are brethren in Christ Jesus, though they may disagree politically with you. If you don't, then you are more left than you realize!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Let me clarify.
I posted the core beliefs of the Right and Left. Let's start there.
Based on each, the Right is far more like and compatible with God and the Bible than the Left. Their actions/fruits prove it.
In truth, there are only God's people, Christians, and what else is left? The Lost; those without God be it ignorance or choice. Even those who "aren't quite there". However God is working on them is unknown but they haven't crossed the line.
Left has different groups just as the Right.
Subjectively picking from both is confusing.

I agree. America is founded on Christian principles but the FF were careful NOT to make America a 100% Christian country. They were careful NOT to make it a Democracy either.
I'm not accusing. Anyone can take God and the Bible and use the Judge accordingly.
Christians do things b/c we want to, right? By force/mob rule is how the Left works.

If God/Bible says "....." and someone thinks or does otherwise then who is correct?
Disagreement is not hate.
Per "lens of theocracy" I agree. Again, which of the two main parties which have for the longest became Presidents in America? Republicans and Democrats. Which group's beliefs and actions align most with God?
Republicans/Conservatives.
Not an opinion that is a fact. After the assassination attempt, was there rioting, looting, destruction, murder like BLM and Antifa (The Left)? No.

I've not stated people can't have their opinions but when they do NOT line up with God and the Bible the evidence is clear.
Politics has been around for most of our existence. Jesus and the Disciples had a problem with it and there's been little difference in it since then.
Lastly, what I and many have done is a self-check or judgment from the Judge.
Given the post topic, someone on the Right would NOT have done it.
Even if it was not Trump and it was Biden I would NOT approve of it. We do not support or kill political opponents.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Let me clarify.
I posted the core beliefs of the Right and Left. Let's start there.
Based on each, the Right is far more like and compatible with God and the Bible than the Left. Their actions/fruits prove it.
In truth, there are only God's people, Christians, and what else is left? The Lost; those without God be it ignorance or choice. Even those who "aren't quite there". However God is working on them is unknown but they haven't crossed the line.
Left has different groups just as the Right.
Subjectively picking from both is confusing.

I agree. America is founded on Christian principles but the FF were careful NOT to make America a 100% Christian country. They were careful NOT to make it a Democracy either.
I'm not accusing. Anyone can take God and the Bible and use the Judge accordingly.
Christians do things b/c we want to, right? By force/mob rule is how the Left works.

If God/Bible says "....." and someone thinks or does otherwise then who is correct?
Disagreement is not hate.
Per "lens of theocracy" I agree. Again, which of the two main parties which have for the longest became Presidents in America? Republicans and Democrats. Which group's beliefs and actions align most with God?
Republicans/Conservatives.
Not an opinion that is a fact. After the assassination attempt, was there rioting, looting, destruction, murder like BLM and Antifa (The Left)? No.

I've not stated people can't have their opinions but when they do NOT line up with God and the Bible the evidence is clear.
Politics has been around for most of our existence. Jesus and the Disciples had a problem with it and there's been little difference in it since then.
Lastly, what I and many have done is a self-check or judgment from the Judge.
Given the post topic, someone on the Right would NOT have done it.
Even if it was not Trump and it was Biden I would NOT approve of it. We do not support or kill political opponents.

Hello Brother,
Appreciate some clarification, but your tendency to blanket coverage left/right in the belief they align with God or not is like trying to nail Jello to a wall. It changes, and after a time, it changes again. So, what you identify today as being left, give it some time, and it becomes moderate/far left, and the right, becomes far right and moderate right becomes liberal.

Keeping with God's Word, is the one thing we can rest assured does not change, though humanity in their faulty way, will always attempt to do so. Being a Christian is neither right nor left, just sensible!

That above you are using "most", "far more like", is good, but have you done so consistently in your posting when talking about one side or the other? That is why I mentioned blanket coverage above in this opening. I agree with you that subjectively picking from both can be confusing, but as a Christian, it takes you closer to the truth than picking left or right and going by that standard alone. Plus, whoever said it was ever going to be easy?

I've talked to both sides, as in professing Democrats, and Republicans. They each give me at times a squirrely look when I tell them that I look through/balance all things through the Word of God, the Bible! Most I know who react badly to my position, like to keep Jesus in Church on Sunday, if they go at all, and leave Him there. Neither realizing or wanting to know that first they are the Church, and most importantly Jesus is who they carry with them, or more likely who is carrying us, to Church on Sundays'!!! I'm sure you've seen it yourself. They seem to get uncomfortable with the subject of Jesus when He's brought up. Looking at you as if you've lost your mind, or here we go again, the Holy Roller, is in the house! lol

On how middle to left, or middle to right act when things don't go their way. Yes, they do act badly, but trying to relate bad behavior as being not as bad on one side compared to the other, is like people who say, "well, I don't sin all the time" or "my sins aren't as bad as those others"!

Thankfully, by the Grace of God, former President Trump did not get assassinated, because a Civil War, could have very easily broken out, especially if President Biden in November won reelection! Politicians would have had to start traveling in armored vehicles that's for sure!!!

That future may yet become a reality. Still, my hope is in Jesus, and I'm confident that God wins in the end!

In closing: Just keep adding most, not all, many, and if possible, stop being all inclusive, because in truth except for believer/non-believer, it is impossible to actually quantify people as being all in with their belief system. Try as they might...

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[MedicBravo]

Hello Brother,
Appreciate some clarification, but your tendency to blanket coverage left/right in the belief they align with God or not is like trying to nail Jello to a wall. It changes, and after a time, it changes again. So, what you identify today as being left, give it some time, and it becomes moderate/far left, and the right, becomes far right and moderate right becomes liberal.

Keeping with God's Word, is the one thing we can rest assured does not change, though humanity in their faulty way, will always attempt to do so. Being a Christian is neither right nor left, just sensible!

That above you are using "most", "far more like", is good, but have you done so consistently in your posting when talking about one side or the other? That is why I mentioned blanket coverage above in this opening. I agree with you that subjectively picking from both can be confusing, but as a Christian, it takes you closer to the truth than picking left or right and going by that standard alone. Plus, whoever said it was ever going to be easy?

I've talked to both sides, as in professing Democrats, and Republicans. They each give me at times a squirrely look when I tell them that I look through/balance all things through the Word of God, the Bible! Most I know who react badly to my position, like to keep Jesus in Church on Sunday, if they go at all, and leave Him there. Neither realizing or wanting to know that first they are the Church, and most importantly Jesus is who they carry with them, or more likely who is carrying us, to Church on Sundays'!!! I'm sure you've seen it yourself. They seem to get uncomfortable with the subject of Jesus when He's brought up. Looking at you as if you've lost your mind, or here we go again, the Holy Roller, is in the house! lol

On how middle to left, or middle to right act when things don't go their way. Yes, they do act badly, but trying to relate bad behavior as being not as bad on one side compared to the other, is like people who say, "well, I don't sin all the time" or "my sins aren't as bad as those others"!

Thankfully, by the Grace of God, former President Trump did not get assassinated, because a Civil War, could have very easily broken out, especially if President Biden in November won reelection! Politicians would have had to start traveling in armored vehicles that's for sure!!!

That future may yet become a reality. Still, my hope is in Jesus, and I'm confident that God wins in the end!

In closing: Just keep adding most, not all, many, and if possible, stop being all inclusive, because in truth except for believer/non-believer, it is impossible to actually quantify people as being all in with their belief system. Try as they might...

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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None of these are simplistic issues.
As I stated previously, anyone can take God and the Bible vs both parties and see for themselves which are more akin to God and the Bible.
I've had far less Democrats who are open-minded and can have a stable discussion than the Right. You can find evidence on countless sites.
I agree. It's not a Left or Right thing.
Anyone can put off their bias on anything and simply look at "What are the facts/evidence?" Or "What that something simply is.
I don't know how to post pictures.
Given the evidence, every assassination in U.S. history on a President or someone of notible worth has been done by a Democrat/Left.
Even for those on the Right who are not fans of Trump, murdering him is not something the Right does.
It's been found that his protection detail was changed with some DEI hires and all attempts to get more were rejected by the head of USSS.

I've tried talking in person and online to the Left and I can count less than 10 who've been open and civil.

There are ways to argue/discuss using God and the Bible without directly bringing Him and it into something.
When they don't believe and have values and obsessions which are clearly not good or Godly, then our stance is already flawed.
God DID set a standard for humanity and it is backed by mountainous evidence.
There are those of us who may not like all of it 100% but still say "Yes, Lord"; Christians and those who so easily and openly reject Him.

People have made up different levels of both parties.
The left-wing ideology typically champions ideals of equality, social justice, and collective responsibility, advocating for government intervention to address societal inequalities and to provide public services.

The right-wing ideology primarily champions social conservatism, limited government, and free-market economics, asserting the importance of personal responsibility and traditional values.

Show where the Left-wing ideology fits as Godly.
Equality? How? We are divided in so many ways and it's not going to change until He fixes it.
Social justice:
a. Student debt. Not my debt, not my problem. People who took/take debt are responsible for it, no one else.
b. Wage inequality. The gender pay gape is a myth and another topic. People who have proven themselves to a company are worth more and deserve more pay than those who don't have as much experience.
c. Healthcare: I'm not responsible for you or anyone else's medical care or ability to pay for it. You are not responsible for mine or ability to pay for it.
d. Reproductive rights/abortion: They'll make ANY excuse to kill an unborn baby which is murder.
e. Book banning: Depending on the book then it should be and more accurately restricted by age. Should any kid (not teenager) be able to check out books about Alphabet people? No.
f. Ah, the good old reliable RACISM. Truth: It's highly profitable and sells WELL.

Collective responsibility? I don't think so. Most popular is the idea that Whites must pay "reparations". That we who NEVER did something to a people who NEVER experienced something.
Government intervention. If this one doesn't set people off then they failed basic U.S. and world history when the "government" thought it knew best.
Fining people and putting them in prison for refusing to use someone's subjective "pronouns"?
No one needs a degree to see where people fall and what they are for and against.

 

[Christ4Ever]

None of these are simplistic issues.
As I stated previously, anyone can take God and the Bible vs both parties and see for themselves which are more akin to God and the Bible.
I've had far less Democrats who are open-minded and can have a stable discussion than the Right. You can find evidence on countless sites.
I agree. It's not a Left or Right thing.
Anyone can put off their bias on anything and simply look at "What are the facts/evidence?" Or "What that something simply is.
I don't know how to post pictures.
Given the evidence, every assassination in U.S. history on a President or someone of notible worth has been done by a Democrat/Left.
Even for those on the Right who are not fans of Trump, murdering him is not something the Right does.
It's been found that his protection detail was changed with some DEI hires and all attempts to get more were rejected by the head of USSS.

I've tried talking in person and online to the Left and I can count less than 10 who've been open and civil.

There are ways to argue/discuss using God and the Bible without directly bringing Him and it into something.
When they don't believe and have values and obsessions which are clearly not good or Godly, then our stance is already flawed.
God DID set a standard for humanity and it is backed by mountainous evidence.
There are those of us who may not like all of it 100% but still say "Yes, Lord"; Christians and those who so easily and openly reject Him.

People have made up different levels of both parties.
The left-wing ideologytypically champions ideals of equality, social justice, and collective responsibility, advocating for government intervention to address societal inequalities and to provide public services.

The right-wing ideology primarily champions social conservatism, limited government, and free-market economics, asserting the importance of personal responsibility and traditional values.

Show where the Left-wing ideology fits as Godly.
Equality? How? We are divided in so many ways and it's not going to change until He fixes it.
Social justice:
a. Student debt. Not my debt, not my problem. People who took/take debt are responsible for it, no one else.
b. Wage inequality. The gender pay gape is a myth and another topic. People who have proven themselves to a company are worth more and deserve more pay than those who don't have as much experience.
c. Healthcare: I'm not responsible for you or anyone else's medical care or ability to pay for it. You are not responsible for mine or ability to pay for it.
d. Reproductive rights/abortion: They'll make ANY excuse to kill an unborn baby which is murder.
e. Book banning: Depending on the book then it should be and more accurately restricted by age. Should any kid (not teenager) be able to check out books about Alphabet people? No.
f. Ah, the good old reliable RACISM. Truth: It's highly profitable and sells WELL.

Collective responsibility? I don't think so. Most popular is the idea that Whites must pay "reparations". That we who NEVER did something to a people who NEVER experienced something.
Government intervention. If this one doesn't set people off then they failed basic U.S. and world history when the "government" thought it knew best.
Fining people and putting them in prison for refusing to use someone's subjective "pronouns"?
No one needs a degree to see where people fall and what they are for and against.

Dear Brother,
When trying to convince someone, instead of just presenting the overview of a topic through Biblical thought/perspective, you will face a wall and in many cases derision because of it, but that is to be expected. So is the case with the expansion of "pronouns", which our neighbors to the North, as well as other places have accepted and attempted to introduce as law, in order to control/suppress the population and destroy the moral foundation that is found in Christianity/Scripture in the guise of freedom and acceptance continues to happen. Except, they are starting to learn how easy it is on a case by case basis, but unmanageable when attempting to cover a society as a whole. When religious people who know even a little of the Bible bring up Sodom and Gomorrah, they are not so wrong in how the world is attempting to replicate such abhorrent behavior and make it good as mentioned in Isaiah 5:20 and yet are ridiculed for being closed minded, and OT based!

That is why it is necessary to be faithful to Scriptural truth, even when there are scholars who attempt to twist it to their own devices, to accommodate the ungodly. I laughed when I read the part on "reparations" and how you said "Most popular is the idea that Whites must pay "reparations""! I must ask you how difficult it was to add "Most" to the statement or was it an afterthought?

Most people love the thought of "free" or even that they are "owed", and don't want to believe that nothing comes without a price! That is why certain philosophies that talk about communal sharing are so popular with the have nots, young, old, and not so much with those who have or are working young, old. Oh, there are grey areas that we could discuss, but even Scripture deals with sharing amongst/with each other! Sadly, too conveniently, having to work (Ephesians 4:8); 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 etc.), is rarely mentioned, or minimized in those instances though Scripture tells us to! lol

You also had me laughing with your a-f listing and asking to show where left-wing ideology fits as Godly. lol I could, but whether you believe it or not I'm not looking to play devil's advocate here! (Your turn to laugh.)

For as long as we have governments that do not acknowledge God, and seek His face, we'll have problems.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[MedicBravo]

Dear Brother,
When trying to convince someone, instead of just presenting the overview of a topic through Biblical thought/perspective, you will face a wall and in many cases derision because of it, but that is to be expected. So is the case with the expansion of "pronouns", which our neighbors to the North, as well as other places have accepted and attempted to introduce as law, in order to control/suppress the population and destroy the moral foundation that is found in Christianity/Scripture in the guise of freedom and acceptance continues to happen. Except, they are starting to learn how easy it is on a case by case basis, but unmanageable when attempting to cover a society as a whole. When religious people who know even a little of the Bible bring up Sodom and Gomorrah, they are not so wrong in how the world is attempting to replicate such abhorrent behavior and make it good as mentioned in Isaiah 5:20 and yet are ridiculed for being closed minded, and OT based!

That is why it is necessary to be faithful to Scriptural truth, even when there are scholars who attempt to twist it to their own devices, to accommodate the ungodly. I laughed when I read the part on "reparations" and how you said "Most popular is the idea that Whites must pay "reparations""! I must ask you how difficult it was to add "Most" to the statement or was it an afterthought?

Most people love the thought of "free" or even that they are "owed", and don't want to believe that nothing comes without a price! That is why certain philosophies that talk about communal sharing are so popular with the have nots, young, old, and not so much with those who have or are working young, old. Oh, there are grey areas that we could discuss, but even Scripture deals with sharing amongst/with each other! Sadly, too conveniently, having to work (Ephesians 4:8); 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12 etc.), is rarely mentioned, or minimized in those instances though Scripture tells us to! lol

You also had me laughing with your a-f listing and asking to show where left-wing ideology fits as Godly. lol I could, but whether you believe it or not I'm not looking to play devil's advocate here! (Your turn to laugh.)

For as long as we have governments that do not acknowledge God, and seek His face, we'll have problems.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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<><

That last sentence is 100% true and should be at the forefront.

 

[brighthouse98]

Understand media I do believe that the shooting was a political attack, I am striving to have the proof come out in Washington, there is GREAT pressure being put as we speak! However!! Trump speech will greatly surprise many! His theme will be that of (Isaiah 1:18) Now whether this will work or not remains to be seen but an olive branch will be in hand, now will the left take it?? I like you doubt it BUT!!! For many independent voters this will perhaps help them to vote for Trump, which is his purpose in the first place!

 

[MedicBravo]

Given what the Left believes and has done through history, they have killed or tried many they didn't like.
Killed Lincoln, JFK, MLK - Democrats/Left
Created and funded the KKK and BLM - Democrats/Left
Lynched Blacks, Segregation, and Jim Crow? Democrats/Left
Internment Camps - Democrats/Left
Confederacy - Democrats.

This is just a few but I can assure anyone 100% that they do NOT line up with God and the Bible.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Given what the Left believes and has done through history, they have killed or tried many they didn't like.
Killed Lincoln, JFK, MLK - Democrats/Left
Created and funded the KKK and BLM - Democrats/Left
Lynched Blacks, Segregation, and Jim Crow? Democrats/Left
Internment Camps - Democrats/Left
Confederacy - Democrats.

This is just a few but I can assure anyone 100% that they do NOT line up with God and the Bible.

Now research the right and list their failings.
Isn't that point of all this, but to direct people away from the believed powers in the political arena towards the One True God?

 

[Christ4Ever]

 

[MedicBravo]

Now research the right and list their failings.
Isn't that point of all this, but to direct people away from the believed powers in the political arena towards the One True God?

Of course the Right isn't perfect.
I'm talking and referencing the beliefs of the Right and not just the "politicians". The latter does NOT define the Right but the actions of 99% of the Left define the Left.

 

[Charlie24]

That was a powerful speech and prayer. In my opinion the best of the entire convention.

 

[IamachildofGod4 ever]

If one is truly saved, one cannot vote Democrat/left. Abortion, socialism, illegal immigration, sexual perversion and mutilation of children’s genitals… ALL issues “ championed by the godless left!

All authority is God given! Now what individuals do with that is upon them. The hope in truth is that they are seekers of God, and even more then that believers in Christ Jesus as their Lord & Savior. Though in the times/society that we are living in, the latter happening in political office are becoming more difficult to come by.

So, instead of arguing left and right, we should be talking saved/unsaved, and how we as vessels can be used to bring those in the dark, into the light, and if there are Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus who feel moved to work in politics, that we should support them, most especially in our prayers. Knowing that the rest will work itself out, because our God knows what He is doing and be comforted by the knowledge that He wins in the end! \o/

 

[Hekuran]

Given the evidence, every assassination in U.S. history on a President or someone of notible worth has been done by a Democrat/Left.

You're forgetting that Donald Trump personally stirred up the crowd that made it's way to the Capitol building with violent intent on his Vice President.

Or that Donald Trump used the hammer attack that fractured Nancy Pelosi's husband as laughter lines in his rallies.

Or that he speculated about opening fire on BLM protesters.

Or in March of this year when Donald Trump raised expectations of a bloodbath if he were not to be elected.

There is statistically far more polically violence from people with right wing views than left.

 

[B-A-C]

You're forgetting that Donald Trump personally stirred up the crowd that made it's way to the Capitol building with violent intent on his Vice President.

Or that Donald Trump used the hammer attack that fractured Nancy Pelosi's husband as laughter lines in his rallies.

Or that he speculated about opening fire on BLM protesters.

Or in March of this year when Donald Trump raised expectations of a bloodbath if he were not to be elected.

Mostly unproven speculation. Because of this he was acquitted by the senate, and not charged.

There is statistically far more polically violence from people with right wing views than left.

Probably true, But even if it was all true., I like guns, I have guns, I was in the military. I have been in my share of fisticuffs. I'm not worried about guns and violence.
That's a minor issue to me. If a candidate hated guns I would still vote for him, if he was against the LGBT agenda and teaching transgenderism to pre-schoolers.

Wars and rebellion has always happened, and according to Jesus always will until He comes back. ( even after that at least once ).
The left is sexualizing our youth, even at a pre-school level, and mark my words, they will eventually legalize pedophilia and sex with children.
That's my main issue with who I'm voting for. I don't "love" either candidate, but one is definitely the lesser of the two evils.

During the Antifa and BLM riots on Portland many people were hurt, and lot of property was vandalized, dozens of business's were shut down.
I myself was threatened and pushed by these protesters. When they came to the small town where I was living at that time, I was one of the people lined up
with guns. We had a few hundred people lined up along the main streets with guns visibly out in the open. No one got hurt, no property was destroyed in our town.
( Less than 40 miles away from Portland ) In this case I am positive the show of force averted what would have been a lot worse.

 

[MedicBravo]

You're forgetting that Donald Trump personally stirred up the crowd that made it's way to the Capitol building with violent intent on his Vice President.

Or that Donald Trump used the hammer attack that fractured Nancy Pelosi's husband as laughter lines in his rallies.

Or that he speculated about opening fire on BLM protesters.

Or in March of this year when Donald Trump raised expectations of a bloodbath if he were not to be elected.

There is statistically far more polically violence from people with right wing views than left.

He did NOT.
He told people to leave and go home PEACEFULLY.
Video and a tweet.
The MSM cut the video and had the Tweet deleted by smart people get copies of evidence OFFLINE.
Burn Loot Murder? They deserve what they get.
Other than statements to back your "claim" what have you?
The Left tried to kill him last week.

Assume nothing. You're not a mind reader.
The whole J6 thing was a plot by the Left.
"Accuse others of which you are guilty b/c stupid people will believe you." Left.

 

[Hekuran]

He did NOT.
He told people to leave and go home PEACEFULLY.
Video and a tweet.
The MSM cut the video and had the Tweet deleted by smart people get copies of evidence OFFLINE.
Burn Loot Murder? They deserve what they get.
Other than statements to back your "claim" what have you?
The Left tried to kill him last week.

Assume nothing. You're not a mind reader.
The whole J6 thing was a plot by the Left.
"Accuse others of which you are guilty b/c stupid people will believe you." Left.

Trump told the rioter to go home peacefully only after three hours of silence and inaction while he watched the violence unfold on TV.

Earlier, in his speech at the "Stop the Steal" rally on the National Mall before the riot, Trump urged his supporters to "walk down to the Capitol" alongside him to protest the certification of the election. "You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

The rioters thought they were following his instructions.

Robert Bauer told FBI Agents in an interview that he "marched to the U.S. Capitol because President Trump said to do so,"

He later took a plea deal and faced the court only on a charge of parading and picketing on Capitol grounds.

Another...

"I believed I was following the instructions of former President Trump," said Garret Miller in a statement released through his lawyer. "I also left Washington and started back to Texas immediately after President Trump asked us to go home."

Miller, who admitted to entering the Capitol in his statement, also threatened to "assassinate" Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez that same day, which he apologized for.

Miller faced five charges, including making threats, violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds

 

[Charlie24]

Trump told the rioter to go home peacefully only after three hours of silence and inaction while he watched the violence unfold on TV.

Earlier, in his speech at the "Stop the Steal" rally on the National Mall before the riot, Trump urged his supporters to "walk down to the Capitol" alongside him to protest the certification of the election. "You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

The rioters thought they were following his instructions.

Robert Bauer told FBI Agents in an interview that he "marched to the U.S. Capitol because President Trump said to do so,"

He later took a plea deal and faced the court only on a charge of parading and picketing on Capitol grounds.

Another...

"I believed I was following the instructions of former President Trump," said Garret Miller in a statement released through his lawyer. "I also left Washington and started back to Texas immediately after President Trump asked us to go home."

Miller, who admitted to entering the Capitol in his statement, also threatened to "assassinate" Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez that same day, which he apologized for.

Miller faced five charges, including making threats, violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds

Why did Pelosi turn down the national guard before J6 when Trump wanted to send them?

What happened is exactly what the left wanted to happen to set up Trump!

 

[Hekuran]

Why did Pelosi turn down the national guard before J6 when Trump wanted to send them?

What happened is exactly what the left wanted to happen to set up Trump!

It didn't need the National Guard to restore peace. It just needed Trump to call off the rioters that he'd stoked to violence with lies about the election being stolen. He didn't do that for three hours during the insurrection, by which time five people had been killed.