Have we been invaded By the Nominals, are they leading and growing strong in Their Proclamation into Their Agenda

[Gregoryp]

And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:​

(Ephesians 4:11-12 KJV)​

This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.​

(1 Timothy 3:1 KJV)​

So do we deny the above verses as having any truth ?? If not, then how do we fit the truth?

Rhema

we now live in sinful and deceptive times, satan is the king of this world, not one organised religion is the truth,all fall short. we now have the gift of the bible and the holy spirit to guide us. Totally unnecessary to go anywhere near a church building.

 

[Gregoryp]

A sign of the end times is the great falling away, this includes the apostate church.

 

[Rhema]

... satan is the king of this world,

Actually I recall reading this:

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power(authority) is given unto ME in heaven and in earth.​

(Matthew 28:18 KJV)​

How does that match up?

Where might there be a scripture that states "satan is the king of this world" ? (Maybe I missed it.)

A sign of the end times is the great falling away, this includes the apostate church.

Surely you don't mean to say that the scriptures mentioning pastors and bishops are apostate, yes?

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

That's just not true. (So now we have another deception to deal with.)

Maybe misconception is a better word.

 

[Hekuran]

we now live in sinful and deceptive times, satan is the king of this world, not one organised religion is the truth,all fall short. we now have the gift of the bible and the holy spirit to guide us. Totally unnecessary to go anywhere near a church building.

But still totally necessary to be an active participant in a church community. God did not create us to be alone. We need each other for support, to pray for each other, for discipline and the joy of worshipping Jesus together.

 

[PloughBoy]

Deuteronomy 31:6
Be strong and courageous; do not be afraid or terrified of them, for it is the LORD your God who goes with you; He will never leave you nor forsake you."

New American Standard Bible
Make sure that your character is free from the love of money, being content with what you have; for He Himself has said, “I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER ABANDON YOU,”

Men and women Will fail you, and you can never trust them "But GOD you can Trust at all times.

Berean Study Bible ( Psalms 146)
Put not your trust in princes, in mortal man, who cannot save.

New American Standard Bible
Do not trust in noblemen, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.

Even Jesus himself Trusted no human being!

"While He was in Jerusalem at the Passover Feast, many people saw the signs He was doing and believed in His name. But Jesus did not entrust Himself to them, for He knew them all...He did not need any testimony about man, for He knew what was in a man.…

[But The "Doctrine of men would have you Trust in people" Because "They love The Creature more than The Creator"]

GOD is A Jealous GOD
Me and My FATHER will COME in And make our ABODE with him. {Singular]

American Standard Version
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my word: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

 

[only son]

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Have you ever noticed how that the Old Testament, the names of people are as referring to God and his attributes, Such as Elijah meaning, ......

..... strength of God or Yahweh is my God - WAS ELIJAH himself LITERALLY, THE literal STRENGTH OF GOD ? - in Hebrew tradition ? or - was he also God ?

I wonder if Yahashua was following Roman Tradition in naming Peter - was he literally saying that Peter himself was a rock -or just following Hebrew tradition of naming someone with a name that has a meaning - referring to God.

You notice how Roman Catholics take everything in the scripture and re-create it into their own traditions and own image, - instead of accepting it and receiving - in the Hebrew tradition it existed in. ?

Roman Catholics and other daughter denominations re align the scriptures through their own lens.

 

[Garee]

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Have you ever noticed how that the Old Testament, the names of people are as referring to God and his attributes, Such as Elijah meaning, ......

..... strength of God or Yahweh is my God - WAS ELIJAH himself LITERALLY, THE literal STRENGTH OF GOD ? - in Hebrew tradition ? or - was he also God ?

I wonder if Yahashua was following Roman Tradition in naming Peter - was he literally saying that Peter himself was a rock -or just following Hebrew tradition of naming someone with a name that has a meaning - referring to God.

You notice how Roman Catholics take everything in the scripture and re-create it into their own traditions and own image, - instead of accepting it and receiving - in the Hebrew tradition it existed in. ?

Roman Catholics and other daughter denominations re align the scriptures through their own lens.

Every name named in the bible has a gospel meaning attached to it . John the Baptist came in the power of Elijah.. the power of the unseen Holy Spirit .Peter meaning rock or stone makes up one on the many lively stones that makes up the spiritual (invisible) house of God the church .

In that way they followed after the Hebrew oral traditons as a law of the multitude of fathers same law of men different names for fathers.

They tried to make the first century reformation to no effect by calling sola scriptura (all things written in the law and prophets) to no effect so that they could rather serve I heard it through the fathers grapevine. Paul revealed that which they call heresy (sola scriptura ) by it as it is written he worships the one God of the fathers and not the fathers as if they were in the place of our one heavenly father .


Acts 24:13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: