How Do I Put on the Armor of God?

[Rhema]

I was talking to a friend who studies Greek for a few years about the passage.

How recently ?? Like today ?? Did he have a problem with what I posted about modifying clauses and Gender Matching?

but at any rate, the Word of God IS powerful

The passage in Hebrews addresses the LOGOS of God, whereas the passage in Ephesians speaks of the RHEMA of God. A word study can be of great benefit to learn the differences, since the respective authors of these epistles thought it important enough to use different specific Greek words.

But there is no doubt that according to Ephesians (upon which this thread is based) one is to take up the Sword ... by means of all prayer. In this epistle, the Spirit is the "word" (rhema) of God.

2 Timothy 3:16

Ask your friend to do a word by word translation of this verse for you (well... verses 15 & 16). You might find that a fascinating discussion. But it's a bit off point for this thread I fear.

I am just trying to understand where the disagreement is.

To be honest, I try not to play personality conflict games that seem so redolent in Jerry's posts. I find such combative behaviour a bit puzzling and belive it ought not to be part of a Christian's walk.

Perhaps you could invite your friend to join this discussion, since my post was directly based upon the Greek grammar of Eph. 6:17 & 18. It might be helpful to have other Greek students join since, all in all, the texts of the New Testament were published in that language. Since I'm new to this website, are there any "resident Greek enthusiasts" here?

((Oh.. I see that both of you are rather recent members too.))

God bless,
Rhema

 

[JerryfromMass]

I didn't realize you were Jesus.

But it is obvious that you're combative without a cause.


Okay then, I gather you learned nothing from my post. That's a shame. Find someone you know who can read Greek (or even English for that matter) and let them teach you. It's unfortunate that your education has failed you. I hadn't expected my post would bring out the trolls this fast.


As scripture says, we are to ask the Father in Jesus' name. I'm not sure why you find that so difficult.

And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.​

(John 16:23 KJV)​

Why do you reject this verse if you are a "follower" of Jesus?

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?​

(Luke 6:46 KJV)​

Beware brothers and sisters: JerryfromMass rejects the verse where Jesus taught us to ask the Father in Jesus' name. (And I clearly explained what Paul actually wrote.)


This is good to know. I don't have fellowship with people who reject the teachings of Jesus as you have done.

I'll let my post stand, and disengage from your trollish behaviour.

Rhema

Rhema, please. You're easily offended, I can see that. I'll try to be more gentle.

I am not Jesus; though I am in Jesus and He is in me. Is Jesus in you? If so, why won't you follow Jesus and ask of him in prayer directly to him, as Jesus commanded.

Combative? Who me? Yes, I am a soldier of Christ, so I will combat heresy when I see it.
If you are a follower of Jesus, why would you advocate Christians not pray to Jesus; Jesus is God. Don't you believe Jesus is God?

You boast of turning a brother in Christ from praying directly to Christ. Then, you criticize me for exposing you. Yours is a poor attempt at covering that which you've exposed, which is your view that Jesus is not God and therefore not worthy of praise or prayer.

You're not only proud of turning a brother from praying directly to Jesus, but you advocate to all reading your posts to do the same. That is antichristian.

Jesus did give us a model prayer, but Jesus did not say that was the only way to pray, or that we were not to pray to Jesus as well as the Father. In fact, Jesus says that we are to ask him directly so that through him the Father would be glorified. I embrace the words of Jesus, but you show your rejection of the words of Jesus when you say we are not to pray to Jesus.

"Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain To receive power and riches and wisdom, And strength and honor and glory and blessing!” And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: “Blessing and honor and glory and power Be to Him who sits on the throne, And to the Lamb, forever and ever!” Then the four living creatures said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped Him who lives forever and ever." Revelation 5:11-14.

 

[Mayflower]

How recently ?? Like today ?? Did he have a problem with what I posted about modifying clauses and Gender Matching?


The passage in Hebrews addresses the LOGOS of God, whereas the passage in Ephesians speaks of the RHEMA of God. A word study can be of great benefit to learn the differences, since the respective authors of these epistles thought it important enough to use different specific Greek words.

But there is no doubt that according to Ephesians (upon which this thread is based) one is to take up the Sword ... by means of all prayer. In this epistle, the Spirit is the "word" (rhema) of God.


Ask your friend to do a word by word translation of this verse for you (well... verses 15 & 16). You might find that a fascinating discussion. But it's a bit off point for this thread I fear.


To be honest, I try not to play personality conflict games that seem so redolent in Jerry's posts. I find such combative behaviour a bit puzzling and belive it ought not to be part of a Christian's walk.

Perhaps you could invite your friend to join this discussion, since my post was directly based upon the Greek grammar of Eph. 6:17 & 18. It might be helpful to have other Greek students join since, all in all, the texts of the New Testament were published in that language. Since I'm new to this website, are there any "resident Greek enthusiasts" here?

((Oh.. I see that both of you are rather recent members too.))

God bless,
Rhema

It isn't on this board. It is why I was excited to find a discussion going on over here on the armor of God too!!!!

We are using this as a reading plan:

Armor of God Prayers to Pray with Power (with Free Printables) -

Looking for Armor of God prayers to give you encouragement? Take a look at these Armor of God prayers, and download free printables!

garmentsofsplendor.com

 

[Mayflower]

I made a new topic, so things won't get derailed.

Praying to God

@JerryfromMass @Rhema I thought this would be a great discussion. I would love for us to explore this some. Jerry and Rhema were talking about prayer and how to pray. So thoughts and scriptures. Do you pray only to the Father? Do you address Jesus and Holy Spirit in prayer also, or the Father...

www.talkjesus.com

 

[Rhema]

Is Jesus in you? If so, why won't you follow Jesus and ask of him in prayer directly to him, as Jesus commanded.

Where did Jesus command that we pray directly to him?

I provided scripture that shows otherwise. So far, you've provided diddly squat. And to infer that someone is "easily offended" when you're the one runing around screaming that my posts are from the devil shows so an unfortunate lack of people skills, not to mention academic skills. So no, I'm not easily offended, though I find the same of you. Is that what this forum is about ?? Personality conflicts, mudslinging, browbeating others with pet doctrines without providing any measure of substantive scriptural (or rational) support? I've run into other so called "Christian" forums that are are designed to be a Roman Theological Circus. I'm a bit disappointed that my first post here has been so readily dragged into that nonsense. I truly hope this isn't one of those forums.

Again, please post something where Jesus commanded we pray "directly to him". Until then, I think I'll follow Jesus teaching as written here:

And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ASK THE FATHER in my name, he will give it you.​

(John 16:23 KJV) (my emphasis)​

Combative? Who me? Yes, I am a soldier of Christ, so I will combat heresy when I see it.

The Jesuits feel this exact same way. They've murdered thousands of believers in the name of "heresy." Perhaps you may wish to consider joining them, but then again, why would anyone be proud of being combative in the name of someone who is called the Prince of Peace and brings a gospel of peace?

... have peace one with another.​

(Mark 9:50 KJV)​

​

And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;​

(Ephesians 6:15 KJV)​

It seems rather ironic that you wish to FIGHT the "heresy" of Greek grammar, or the "heresy" of Jesus' teachings when the gospel we are to present to others is a gospel of peace, and our armour is to have boots of peace, not hobnailed jackboots to stomp all over everyone we think is a heretic. But ultimately it's up to you to decide if your posts and demeanor align with these teachings:

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;​

(Matthew 5:44 KJV)​

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;​

(Hebrews 12:14-15 KJV)​

I decline your offer of combat.

You boast of turning a brother in Christ from praying directly to Christ. Then, you criticize me for exposing you.

When in fact you have exposed yourself by rejecting this verse...

And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ASK THE FATHER in my name, he will give it you.​

(John 16:23 KJV) (my emphasis)​

How ironic.

There are many other verses where Jesus commanded us to pray to the Father. Every believer ought to have learned about and should practice the Lord's Prayer. Don't you?

After this manner therefore PRAY !! ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.​

(Matthew 6:9 KJV)​

The verb "to pray" is in the imperative mood and as such is understood as a command by anyone conversant in Greek. Jesus COMMANDED us to PRAY to our Father which is in heaven. Again, I think I shall follow the command of Jesus to pray to the Father instead of the opinion of JerryfromMass who (so far) hasn't posted anything but his own opinion.

Again,the purpose of my post in this thread is to show that the Greek syntax of Epheisians 6:17 proves that the SPIRIT is the Word of God (i.e. Rhema of God), and the SWORD is PRAYER.

So if I may in all sincerity, "Father in heaven I pray in Jesus name that you help JerryfromMass grow in the peace of the Lord to understand the truth found in the Epistle of Ephesians that as directly written in Greek, the Spirit is the Rhema-Word of God, and that our Sword in the "whole armour of God" that we are to wield is prayer."

You're not only proud of turning a brother from praying directly to Jesus, but you advocate to all reading your posts to do the same. That is antichristian.

It's "anti-Christian" to advocate that we follow the commands of Jesus to pray to the Father ??

Well I'm sure that somehow makes sense to you.... but...

Blessings from your peaceful heretic.
(as I decline further combat and hope the mods end it.)
Rhema

 

[Brother-Paul]

Greetings,

You know what brothers and sisters in Christ, what I see here is swords and shields, and they are flying left and right.

The armour of God is to protect us from the evil one, not from each other, is it not?

In His Love.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Greetings

Our prayers are to be to, God the Father, through Jesus Christ our Lord, according to the Father's will, in Jesus Name. Amen

Jesus said over and over again, He came to do the Father's will, He completed the Father's will then Returned to Him.

John 5:19, John 6:38, John 4:34, John 17:1-26,

Praying in Jesus Name

John 14:13-14

Shalom

 

[Rhema]

You know what brothers and sisters in Christ, what I see here is swords and shields, and they are flying left and right.

The armour of God is to protect us from the evil one, not from each other, is it not?

Well there does seem to be a certain someone who doesn't want anyone to know the Sword is Prayer, and the Word/Rhema of God is the Spirit.

What can I say ???

PEACE-BOOTS !!!

Thanks, Brother-Paul

 

[Brother-Paul]

Well there... Hi to all.

It's my first post here, and I'm about to post something that might just freak everybody out on this website, but please bear with me... while my post is meant to edify it will take some thinking (if not study) on your part. In other words, don't dismiss this post out of hand, and yes, I quite understand the scope of its implications.

I wish to say first, though, that I've read all four pages of this pinned thread, and I've listed a few quotes at the bottom in order to trigger notices for those whom I thought might be interested in digging a bit deeper into the text of Ephesians 6, rather than to start any conflict. I should also mention that I've been reading the New Testament texts in their initial language (Koine Greek) for well over 4 decades. And therein lies the Rub...

THE SWORD IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD.

... and this can be seen quite plainly when one reads the Greek text - και την περικεφαλαιαν του σωτηριου δεξασθε και την μαχαιραν του πνευματος ο εστιν ρημα θεου

Give me a moment to explain. It's not all that hard.
Brother-Paul, you just don't know how true that is. And as hard as it is to fathom, there is not one single English translation I have read that has correctly translated Ephesians 6:17, 18 into modern colloquial English (and I have read most all that are out there).

Why? Every English translation that I have read, introduces what is known as a "Squinting Modifier" that is NOT present in the Greek text. But first, let's look at the KJV -

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:​

(Ephesians 6:17 KJV)​

We have what is known as a modifying clause, the phrase - "which is the word of God." As a adjectival clause, it modifies a noun. But we have two nouns - Sword, and Spirit. So which noun is being modified? Is the Sword the word of God? Or is the Spirit the word of God?

In ye merry ole Oxford English of 400 years ago, one would have been taught that the modifying clause in a sentence attaches to the closest noun. So technically, these English translations are accurate, but only "technically." Anyone can see, then, that the closest noun to the modifying clause "which is the word of God" is the noun "Spirit," not "Sword." So the sword is not the "word of God." But sometime over these last four hundred years, along with a dearth of any adequate education in the King's English, we arrive at the astonishing conclusion that "American-ish" (what I called "modern colloquial English") has morphed into adopting a common practice wherein the possessive is dropped prior to attributing the modifier, and hence, EVERY pastor (therefore every sermon), and EVERY Christian I have ever met, reads the text of Ephesians 6:17 this way... "And take ... the sword (...), which is the word of God:" concluding that the Sword is the Word of God. But it isn't.

How can I be so sure ??

As mentioned, in Greek one can easily see that the SPIRIT is the word of God, and it has to do with Gender Matching. As in Modern Spanish, Koine Greek nouns have gender (male, female, & neuter). In addition, modifying clauses in Koine Greek must match the gender of the noun being modified. In Greek, μάχαιρα (sword - G3162) is feminine, while πνεῦμα (spirit - G4151) is neuter. Why does this matter? Because the word "which" is neuter in gender to match the noun "Spirit," not feminine to match the noun "Sword." God knows what they teach in seminary these days, but the sword is not the word of God, and never was. There's not even a question about it. To any second year Greek student, the modifying clause "which is the word of God" automatically attaches to the noun Spirit (πνεῦμα - G4151) because of gender matching.

THE SPIRIT IS THE WORD OF GOD.

Does this even matter ?? YEESSS... Yes it does. As many have pointed out, the sword is the only offensive weapon. Now how could one fight a battle if he or she has absolutely no clue what "sword" means, thinking it instead to mean "Bible"? "Pick up your sword !!" I heard one pastor preach, waving around his Bible. His church is failing.

I submit that if you believe something that isn't true, then what is True can't help you. One will suffer the consequences if one believes the wrong thing. Christians go charging into battle waving a book, which is NOT "the sword" in Ephesians chapter six, and wonder why they're being soundly trounced.

So then, what IS the sword?

(Well thank you kindly for asking... )

The sword is defined in verse 18, since the text in verse 17 doesn't actually stop. It was a Very poor place to put a period and a verse number. So let's read my interlinear... (or get your own for that matter, as it will say the same thing).

Eph 6:17, 18 - και (AND) την (THE) περικεφαλαιαν (HELMET) του (OF) σωτηριου (SALVATION) δεξασθε (TAKE !!!) και (AND = along with) την (THE) μαχαιραν (SWORD) του (OF THE) πνευματος (SPIRIT) ο (WHICH SPIRIT) εστιν (IS) ρημα (the RHEMA-WORD) θεου (OF GOD) δια (BY MEANS OF) πασης (ALL) προσευχης (PRAYER). - - - - That's what is literally written. --- TAKE THE SWORD BY MEANS OF ALL PRAYER.

PRAYER IS THE SWORD.

Now obviously one doesn't pick up a sword by the blade, or you'd cut your dang fool fingers off. Rather, one takes a sword by the pommel. If nothing else, then, you now know HOW to put on (wield) the sword. Take the sword by means of all prayer.

Witnessing is not our weapon in this metaphor.
Preaching is not our weapon in this metaphor.
Bible reading is not our weapon in this metaphor.
What IS our weapon? It's the Sword.
And the Sword, (the only weapon in this metaphor), is prayer.

If the general says, "TAKE THAT HILL !!" You'd better use your swords - you'd better be praying.
If the general says, "GUARD THAT FORT !!" You'd better use your swords - you'd better be praying.

Prayer is the only way that Christians can achieve.... ANYTHING.

I have raised the dead through PRAYER.
I have healed the sick through PRAYER.
I have saved souls through PRAYER.
I have stopped car crashes by means of PRAYER.
(And sometimes you've gotta pray lightning fast...)

And in any crisis, I would rather have the SWORD of PRAYER (TM) in my hands than anything else of the Armour.

God's Blessings to all,
Rhema

PS: A long time ago I was talking with a close Evangelical Christian friend who heard me teach this and he started to give praise and thanks to God that while not completely understanding these verses, he had been doing it - praying to Jesus about everything. It wasn't a boast, he was just relieved and glad that he was finally doing something right... that prayer was the KEY, praying always to Jesus. And while I didn't mean to be cruel, I stuck my foot in it and told him I was a bit puzzled in that Jesus instructed us to pray to the Father, and not to Jesus. YES, it was that unmistakable sound of awkward silence that followed, and we politely changed topics and my friend never mentioned it again. Until one year later. While visiting, he turned to me and said, "Remember when you......?" "YES, I'm SO sorry, I wasn't trying to rebuke you." But he quietly interrupted me to say that he changed the way he was praying that very same day, vowing to do so for a year. He stopped praying to Jesus and started praying to the Father, and being the engineer that he was, gave me the astonishing report that instead of ten percent of his prayers typically being answered, it was now nearly 95 percent. And he wanted to thank me for that.

PPS: It takes practice to learn how to wield a sword correctly. So go practice, brothers and sisters.

Greetings @Rhema

Ephesians 6:16-18
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

My understanding is as follows...

The sword of the spirit is given us by God, is not for us to fight with, the sword is spiritual, it is the only weapon in the armour and it is the one chosen by the Holy Spirit.

The sword is our protector, we grab it by the handle, with both hands, and raise our hands, praising God in The Word, praying in the Spirit.

But what is the sword protecting? The answer is in verse 18, 'Praying always, with all prayer and supplication, in the Spirit. Prayer is emphasised twice in this verse, it is saying in effect, Note this is important, this is what I am talking about. The sword protects our prayers, in faith, in Jesus Name, to the Father in Heaven. Our prayers are promised to be interceded to the Father by Jesus and only by Jesus. Prayer is our God created communication method, God will by no means allow the devil to stop this, but we must always remember the battle is not ours. We are to take up the sword of the Spirit, in all prayer and supplication, 'In The Word'.

We are to pray to God, using scripture, which is The Word. But we are to wrestle not against flesh and blood, the battle is not ours, it is against principalities and powers in the heavenly's.

Why is the sword spiritual? Because God is Spirit, God communicates via the his Spirit, He has given us The Word via his Spirit, He wants us to pray to Him, 'in the spirit'

Shalom

 

[Brother-Paul]

Well there does seem to be a certain someone who doesn't want anyone to know the Sword is Prayer, and the Word/Rhema of God is the Spirit.

What can I say ???

PEACE-BOOTS !!!

Thanks, Brother-Paul

Greetings

I thought when I read the posts, I was reading Genesis 3:24

There are a few small issues I think, (I am not a moderator).
1 - Forums always will have issues that talking face to face doesn't have.
2 - Many times someone will come forward and say, I have this to tell you your thinking is wrong.
3 - Another common issue is denominational beliefs,

Although on the second item the intention is meant well, there is immediately a barrier, because it is some different to what some have been taught or understand, which points also to item 3.

What is the answer? Post in peace and in His love, consider all these things and more, keep praying in the Spirit, in The Word, according to The Word. Love one another as Christ loves us.

In His Love

brother-paul

 

[Bill]

In Jesus' name to whom?

My friend, i wear all the armor and use both the Shield and Sword when i do spiritual warfare. And i have been for 40 plus yrs now.

Many use it all through prayer, and it is with thier prayers we defeat the enemies of God.

Those who pray have a Gift to pray.

My life is my prayer.

 

[Bill]

Greetings @Rhema

Ephesians 6:16-18
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

My understanding is as follows...

The sword of the spirit is given us by God, is not for us to fight with, the sword is spiritual, it is the only weapon in the armour and it is the one chosen by the Holy Spirit.

The sword is our protector, we grab it by the handle, with both hands, and raise our hands, praising God in The Word, praying in the Spirit.

But what is the sword protecting? The answer is in verse 18, 'Praying always, with all prayer and supplication, in the Spirit. Prayer is emphasised twice in this verse, it is saying in effect, Note this is important, this is what I am talking about. The sword protects our prayers, in faith, in Jesus Name, to the Father in Heaven. Our prayers are promised to be interceded to the Father by Jesus and only by Jesus. Prayer is our God created communication method, God will by no means allow the devil to stop this, but we must always remember the battle is not ours. We are to take up the sword of the Spirit, in all prayer and supplication, 'In The Word'.

We are to pray to God, using scripture, which is The Word. But we are to wrestle not against flesh and blood, the battle is not ours, it is against principalities and powers in the heavenly's.

Why is the sword spiritual? Because God is Spirit, God communicates via the his Spirit, He has given us The Word via his Spirit, He wants us to pray to Him, 'in the spirit'

Shalom

Bro, the Lord gave me the Sword of God to fight with. I do out of the body spiritual warfare

 

[Brother-Paul]

My friend, i wear all the armor and use both the Shield and Sword when i do spiritual warfare. And i have been for 40 plus yrs now.

Many use it all through prayer, and it is with thier prayers we defeat the enemies of God.

Those who pray have a Gift to pray.

My life is my prayer.

Life is a prayer for all saved soul.

Greater is he who is within than he who is in the world.

We are in Christ, Christ is in us.

PTL \o/

 

[Brother-Paul]

Bro, the Lord gave me the Sword of God to fight with. I do out of the body spiritual warfare

We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers.

The battle is not ours to fight brother.

The armour of God is protection against the evil one.

Shalom

 

[Bill]

Life is a prayer for all saved soul.

Greater is he who is within than he who is in the world.

We are in Christ, Christ is in us.

PTL \o/

That is correct .

The one who welds the Sword is one with the Sword.

As a husband and wife become one with God so does the person who welds the Sword become one with God. But in neither case does that mean we are God, it is God who lives in us.

 

[Bill]

We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers.

The battle is not ours to fight brother.

The armour of God is protection against the evil one.

Shalom

Even those who are not called to get into the combat of spiritual warfare, still must defend. If you can not raise the Sword of God ( the Word ) in defence , you are no Christian.

You dont recieve the armor of a warrior to be a coward. What do you think you fan into a flame your faith for, to sit on the sidelines.

You are right that Jesus is the Sword of God. So take up your faith, and the Sword and stand against the darkness.

 

[Bill]

We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers.

The battle is not ours to fight brother.

The armour of God is protection against the evil one.

Shalom

But you are no coward, i know you Brother Paul, you make me proud to stand with you. The only thing you are missing is understanding why you are what you are.

These things are not really as impostant ( the understanding of the purpose of the Sword ) as just walking with Christ

 

[Brother-Paul]

That is correct .

The one who welds the Sword is one with the Sword.

As a husband and wife become one with God so does the person who welds the Sword become one with God. But in neither case does that mean we are God, it is God who lives in us.

Even those who are not called to get into the combat of spiritual warfare, still must defend. If you can not raise the Sword of God ( the Word ) in defence , you are no Christian.

You dont recieve the armor of a warrior to be a coward. What do you think you fan into a flame your faith for, to sit on the sidelines.

You are right that Jesus is the Sword of God. So take up your faith, and the Sword and stand against the darkness.

Greetings brother

I reply in love to both comments as your statements overlap.

Ephesians 6:17-18
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;


v17 we 'take' the helmet of salvation, and (take up) the sword of the Spirit.

We raise with pride, we raise in honour, we raise in Jesus Name, 'sword of the Spirit'. That is all we do other that pray in faith according to The Word.

We take up, we raise up, the sword of the Spirit, but it is not pours to fight with brother, if we fight with the sword we are in effect hindering the spirit of God, that would be a stumbling block do you not think?

Stand up, Stand up for Jesus, raise the sword to God, in Faith, quoting The Word in prayer.

John 14:12
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.

The following verse sums this up well I think.

James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Raise our sword, submit to God in prayer, the devil will flee. The light of God's spirit, the sword of the spirit will be enough in itself for the devil to flee. But when then double edge sword is used, by the Spirit of God, woe to the one who dares to come near it.

Isn't God amazing brother, we are soldiers for Christ, we are God's army, yet we do not fight, we do not need to fight, all we need to do is put on the whole armour of God, 'Raise the Sword', Standing in Faith, praying always, in all prayer and supplication, in Faith, with Thanksgiving, according to The Word of God.

Glory be to God our Father, through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, in Jesus Precious Name we pray. And it is a BIG Amen from me brother.

In His Love

 

[Brother-Paul]

Even those who are not called to get into the combat of spiritual warfare, still must defend. If you can not raise the Sword of God ( the Word ) in defence , you are no Christian.

You dont recieve the armor of a warrior to be a coward. What do you think you fan into a flame your faith for, to sit on the sidelines.

You are right that Jesus is the Sword of God. So take up your faith, and the Sword and stand against the darkness.

The armour is to protect us from all evil brother.

If I take up the sword and choose to use it, I am preventing the Holy Spirit from doing what he intends to do. I am a stumbling block to the Spirit of God, when he swings that sword (which we take up, which we hold high) if we are in effect swiping at something else, we are taking away the force he intends to use.

I understand fully what you are saying brother, your intentions are honourable, but the battle is not ours. PUT ON, TAKE UP, the whole armour of God. That is all we do with the armour. The rest is down to the Spirit, our Faith and praying in The Word.

Bless you

 

[Bill]

Greetings brother

I reply in love to both comments as your statements overlap.

Ephesians 6:17-18
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;


v17 we 'take' the helmet of salvation, and (take up) the sword of the Spirit.

We raise with pride, we raise in honour, we raise in Jesus Name, 'sword of the Spirit'. That is all we do other that pray in faith according to The Word.

We take up, we raise up, the sword of the Spirit, but it is not pours to fight with brother, if we fight with the sword we are in effect hindering the spirit of God, that would be a stumbling block do you not think?

Stand up, Stand up for Jesus, raise the sword to God, in Faith, quoting The Word in prayer.

John 14:12
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.

The following verse sums this up well I think.

James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Raise our sword, submit to God in prayer, the devil will flee. The light of God's spirit, the sword of the spirit will be enough in itself for the devil to flee. But when then double edge sword is used, by the Spirit of God, woe to the one who dares to come near it.

Isn't God amazing brother, we are soldiers for Christ, we are God's army, yet we do not fight, we do not need to fight, all we need to do is put on the whole armour of God, 'Raise the Sword', Standing in Faith, praying always, in all prayer and supplication, in Faith, with Thanksgiving, according to The Word of God.

Glory be to God our Father, through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour, in Jesus Precious Name we pray. And it is a BIG Amen from me brother.

In His Love

May God be Praised Forever.

If God chose to, he could do everything Himself, but He choses to let His servants do the work.

The Angel came to Mary
The Angels came to Lot
Samuel was sent to David
John the Baptist the voice in the wilderness
Jesus sent out His Apostles
And so on

It is true with me, i have been sent.

I have been given the Sword of God. It is the Lord Himself that calls me the Sword of God, and the Word of God burns in me.

I am One of the Two Golden Lampstands that stands before the Lord.

Sincerely the Servant of God