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Is Hell just separation from God or a place of horrendous eternal punishment as the Bible states?

Maybe so but that does not eliminate the horror of hell. Only recently have people come to think of hell like you do. Most if not all events and happenings in the Bible were always taken literally till people recently changed their ways through education, embarrassment, conformity etc. There is nothing ambiguous about burning in hell for ever. Lord Jesus believed it and St Paul was motivated NOT by the love of God to save the lost but by the terror / fear of God. Paul preached: "Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord we persuade men." ( 2 Cor. 5:11)

Why because God can put you in hell. If Hell was not too bad a place why preach the gospel to save sinners from entry.

And most revivals began when preachers preached on sin and its consequence in a torturous horror filled hell.

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God | Wikiwand

" Edwards was interrupted many times during the sermon by people moaning and crying out, "What shall I do to be saved?". Although the sermon has received criticism, Edwards' words have endured and are still read to this day. Edwards' sermon continues to be the leading example of a Great Awakening sermon and is still used in religious and academic studies. "

Most of the sermon's text consists of ten "considerations":

  1. 1. God may cast wicked men into hell at any given moment.

  2. 2. The wicked deserve to be cast into hell. Divine justice does not prevent God from destroying the Wicked at any moment.

  3. 3. The wicked, at this moment, suffer under God's condemnation to Hell.

  4. 4. The wicked, on earth—at this very moment—suffer a sample of the torments of Hell. The wicked must not think, simply because they are not physically in Hell, that God (in Whose hand the wicked now reside) is not—at this very moment—as angry with them as He is with those miserable creatures He is now tormenting in hell, and who—at this very moment—do feel and bear the fierceness of His wrath.

  5. 5. At any moment God shall permit him, Satan stands ready to fall upon the wicked and seize them as his own.

  6. 6. If it were not for God's restraints, there are, in the souls of wicked men, hellish principles reigning which, presently, would kindle and flame out into hellfire.

  7. 7. Simply because there are not visible means of death before them at any given moment, the wicked should not feel secure.

  8. 8. Simply because it is natural to care for oneself or to think that others may care for them, men should not think themselves safe from God's wrath.

  9. 9. All that wicked men may do to save themselves from Hell's pains shall afford them nothing if they continue to reject Christ.

  10. 10. God has never promised to save us from Hell, except for those contained in Christ through the covenant of Grace
That was an interesting sermon. He didn't say anything overly controversial though. Even what you have underlined is understandable. God's wrath is terrible. Eternal separation is terrible and eternal.

There is something else you need to consider on the context of hell. God's viewpoint and His restrictions. As explained on free will, God restricts Himself from getting involved in a lot of what takes place on earth to uphold true free will. He only get's involved with those who want Him to be a part of their lives. Now with respects to heaven and hell. God has waited so long to be properly re-united with us. Us who He loves so much that He showed the greatest act of love for by laying down His life John 15:13. When we are with Him, there is absolutely nothing holding Him back from being a part of our lives. He is going to spoil us. Love us. Reveal amazing truths to us. Our mansions will be so grand and impressive. Those that go to hell however, He can do little to nothing for them. They don't want Him to be a part of their lives. The environment in hell is going to be absolutely terrible in comparison to heaven because of this. Think of some poor people in the world. No matter how much you help them, give them, they will still live in poverty. Some just have a terrible mindset and feel the rich owe them everything. Hell is going to be a home for people that have a different mindset. They have pride, ego, are unrepentant. There is little to none selflessness, joy, kindness. If a rich person in a huge mansion looks at a person in a shanty town, they will say ''they are in suffering, they are in hell''. When scripture says hell is a lake of fire where people have eternal contempt Dan 12:2, it is God of the universe describing a place where He cannot and does not have free reign. Today we have a sun rising, birds singing, children around us, sweet people arounds us. In hell you will not have these things. God cannot trust children or animals with the wicked. People with pride, ego's, liars etc etc. Of course not all are as bad as the next. But all unrepentant sinners. They never ever will or want to repent. God speaks of hell as a place of fire because He is speaking from His vantage point. Comparing heaven where He has free reign to a place where a good God does not have free reign. It will be night and day difference. You have to understand this truth. Those in hell will / have for all eternity, effectively tied God's hands from expressing His love for them. Like a good parent who just wants to cuddle, protect and spoil their child. God cannot do this for them.
 
KingJ -- that which concerns me about you -- your squewed concept of God. Do you accept the sovereighty of God? That He Is in control of Everything -- Scripture says that 'every hair on our heads are numbered". The convicting power of the Holy Spirit is God going after each person for their personal salvation. And, yes , God Does know who will end up in hell and or heaven.

In the New Testament -- Saul of Tarsus -- he was going around grabbing Christians and bringing them to the authorities for punishment / torture. That was his reputation. Pretty bad. But God reached down to him, on that road to Emaus ? He acknowledged God there on that road and eventually Paul was chosen to author the Prison Epistles -- Lots of the New Testament.

You seem to Not accept free will for what it truly is. God does NOT have to give up part of Himself in order for us to have free will. God Is God -- steadfast and Not changeable. Jesus Christ, as the 2nd person of the Trinity Did come to this earth as a baby -- He took on Our nature. Though He could not sin. He was tempted in all ways, but without sin. While here on earth, He was showing 'us' the Father in heaven.

He does Not force Himself on anyone. That is correct. But we are also Not puppets. He Does know everything we will do. He knows whether or not we will brush our teeth today and that we might be in an accident in two weeks or be raptured up and out tonight. And He also knows when / if we choose to be rebellious in spirit. And what it will take to bring us back to Himself.

You commented that when we've accept Jesus Christ as our personal Savior, that there's Nothing He won't do for us. That He spoils us. Well -- somewhat -- If as a believer we want to go out and drink because our friends want us to. Does He stop us? He will talk to our conscious through the Holy Spirit. But does He stop us from taking that drink? Not especially -- does He stop us from getting into a car with friends who are drunk? Not especially -- will the Holy Spirit be trying to tell us Not to? yes. Do we always follow the leading Of the Holy Spirit, not especially. Do we end up suffering negative consequences -- yes.

God knows the difference between our Wants and our Needs. He Wants a close relationship to Him. He Won't be spoiling us with Our desires especially -- because our Human desires aren't always good for us. He Will 'spoil' us with Spiritual blessings. With inner peace. Assurance of His forgiveness.

As for those who go to hell. That God can do little of nothing for them. Well -- He's Done Everything For them. He's provided their way to Avoid hell. They've had their life-time to accept God's gift Of salvation. However long that life-time ends up being. God Also knows That about us. How long we Will live. And He gives Every person a chance to hear and accept.

And your concept of the 'poor' people in this world. Being 'poor' is largely a matter of perspective. A Rich person would consider 'middle-class' as being 'poor'. The middle-class think of the poor as being poor. Do you realize that in some parts of This country -- some of the 'poor' people don't consider themselves as 'poor' at All. They can see themselves as 'rich' in their relationships, their love of God. God's goodness to them in ways that We wouldn't understand.

And there are Also lots of people who are 'poor' because of poor money management. some people Are lazy. They Won't work.. they are conditioned to think that Society owes them a living.

There are countries that are poor due to their countries' leaders Wanting them that way. Some people are Powerful and power corrupts.

God is Also in control of animals. For instance, the lions' den when Daniel was put in the lions' den -- the person who put him in it figured he'd be dead within minutes or over-night. But God closed the mouths of those lions. Daniel was alive and pulled out. Anyone Else would have been gobbled up quickly.

During the 1,000 reign of Christ on earth. the lions will lay down with the lamb / little child and not be harmed. Natural preditors / enemies will be at peace with each other. Because 'we' will be living under God's authority / peace / perfect judgement.

God's description of hell / lake of fire and brimstone is Not being sugar-coated. God knows how We experience fire Now. And He is letting Us know that That temporary fire hurting us Now will be continually burning. We Also hear about - maybe experienced burns ourselves. Both minor or major. I've accidentally touched the hot stove trying to remove a pan. That HURT. But after a bit, the pain Does go away. Major burn victums -- Much different. That is much Worse. Lots of people Die from severe burns.

We tend too want to sugar-coat it -- you certainly do.

You said that hell is going to be Awful in comparison to the wondrous environment in Heaven. Well -- of Course it will be. But 'awful' doesn't even Begin to describe a lake of fire and brimstone. And, yes it will be Real and Forever. Not torture -- just reality of what God has in store for satan, the beast and the false prophet. WE don't Have to end up there.

If a believer intentionally gets drunk --maybe even at home -- is warned - at home - by people who care about him -- to NOT get on his motorcycle or in his car and drive. He and they know the risks involved in doing that. But, he goes out Anyway. He's drunk -- has the accident - maybe just a broken leg and arrested and spends some time in jail OR he's in an accident -- someone is Killed as a result -- he has even gone part way through his car's windshield and lives but is a Mess. Goes to prison. OR he is Killed. Enters eternity and since he Is a born-again believer, he is immediately in the presence of the Lord. Now - hopefully - as a result of spending time in jail / prison --the guy will get straightened out -- stops the drinking and can still be used by God to lead other's to Christ.

Maybe a Non-believer -- same set of circumstances. He has the accident. Maybe looses an arm or leg -- permanent injuries - maybe jail / prison time -- BUT he crosses paths with a Believer --maybe through prison / jail - ministry -- but he hears the Gospel unto salvation and accepts Christ as his personal Savior. So - instead of dying -- and ending up in hell for eternity -- God sees fit to have that accident bring him into contact with that Gospel witness and he accepts.
 
KingJ -- that which concerns me about you -- your squewed concept of God. Do you accept the sovereighty of God? That He Is in control of Everything -- Scripture says that 'every hair on our heads are numbered". The convicting power of the Holy Spirit is God going after each person for their personal salvation. And, yes , God Does know who will end up in hell and or heaven.

In the New Testament -- Saul of Tarsus -- he was going around grabbing Christians and bringing them to the authorities for punishment / torture. That was his reputation. Pretty bad. But God reached down to him, on that road to Emaus ? He acknowledged God there on that road and eventually Paul was chosen to author the Prison Epistles -- Lots of the New Testament.

You seem to Not accept free will for what it truly is. God does NOT have to give up part of Himself in order for us to have free will. God Is God -- steadfast and Not changeable. Jesus Christ, as the 2nd person of the Trinity Did come to this earth as a baby -- He took on Our nature. Though He could not sin. He was tempted in all ways, but without sin. While here on earth, He was showing 'us' the Father in heaven.

He does Not force Himself on anyone. That is correct. But we are also Not puppets. He Does know everything we will do. He knows whether or not we will brush our teeth today and that we might be in an accident in two weeks or be raptured up and out tonight. And He also knows when / if we choose to be rebellious in spirit. And what it will take to bring us back to Himself.

You commented that when we've accept Jesus Christ as our personal Savior, that there's Nothing He won't do for us. That He spoils us. Well -- somewhat -- If as a believer we want to go out and drink because our friends want us to. Does He stop us? He will talk to our conscious through the Holy Spirit. But does He stop us from taking that drink? Not especially -- does He stop us from getting into a car with friends who are drunk? Not especially -- will the Holy Spirit be trying to tell us Not to? yes. Do we always follow the leading Of the Holy Spirit, not especially. Do we end up suffering negative consequences -- yes.

God knows the difference between our Wants and our Needs. He Wants a close relationship to Him. He Won't be spoiling us with Our desires especially -- because our Human desires aren't always good for us. He Will 'spoil' us with Spiritual blessings. With inner peace. Assurance of His forgiveness.

As for those who go to hell. That God can do little of nothing for them. Well -- He's Done Everything For them. He's provided their way to Avoid hell. They've had their life-time to accept God's gift Of salvation. However long that life-time ends up being. God Also knows That about us. How long we Will live. And He gives Every person a chance to hear and accept.

And your concept of the 'poor' people in this world. Being 'poor' is largely a matter of perspective. A Rich person would consider 'middle-class' as being 'poor'. The middle-class think of the poor as being poor. Do you realize that in some parts of This country -- some of the 'poor' people don't consider themselves as 'poor' at All. They can see themselves as 'rich' in their relationships, their love of God. God's goodness to them in ways that We wouldn't understand.

And there are Also lots of people who are 'poor' because of poor money management. some people Are lazy. They Won't work.. they are conditioned to think that Society owes them a living.

There are countries that are poor due to their countries' leaders Wanting them that way. Some people are Powerful and power corrupts.

God is Also in control of animals. For instance, the lions' den when Daniel was put in the lions' den -- the person who put him in it figured he'd be dead within minutes or over-night. But God closed the mouths of those lions. Daniel was alive and pulled out. Anyone Else would have been gobbled up quickly.

During the 1,000 reign of Christ on earth. the lions will lay down with the lamb / little child and not be harmed. Natural preditors / enemies will be at peace with each other. Because 'we' will be living under God's authority / peace / perfect judgement.

God's description of hell / lake of fire and brimstone is Not being sugar-coated. God knows how We experience fire Now. And He is letting Us know that That temporary fire hurting us Now will be continually burning. We Also hear about - maybe experienced burns ourselves. Both minor or major. I've accidentally touched the hot stove trying to remove a pan. That HURT. But after a bit, the pain Does go away. Major burn victums -- Much different. That is much Worse. Lots of people Die from severe burns.

We tend too want to sugar-coat it -- you certainly do.

You said that hell is going to be Awful in comparison to the wondrous environment in Heaven. Well -- of Course it will be. But 'awful' doesn't even Begin to describe a lake of fire and brimstone. And, yes it will be Real and Forever. Not torture -- just reality of what God has in store for satan, the beast and the false prophet. WE don't Have to end up there.

If a believer intentionally gets drunk --maybe even at home -- is warned - at home - by people who care about him -- to NOT get on his motorcycle or in his car and drive. He and they know the risks involved in doing that. But, he goes out Anyway. He's drunk -- has the accident - maybe just a broken leg and arrested and spends some time in jail OR he's in an accident -- someone is Killed as a result -- he has even gone part way through his car's windshield and lives but is a Mess. Goes to prison. OR he is Killed. Enters eternity and since he Is a born-again believer, he is immediately in the presence of the Lord. Now - hopefully - as a result of spending time in jail / prison --the guy will get straightened out -- stops the drinking and can still be used by God to lead other's to Christ.

Maybe a Non-believer -- same set of circumstances. He has the accident. Maybe looses an arm or leg -- permanent injuries - maybe jail / prison time -- BUT he crosses paths with a Believer --maybe through prison / jail - ministry -- but he hears the Gospel unto salvation and accepts Christ as his personal Savior. So - instead of dying -- and ending up in hell for eternity -- God sees fit to have that accident bring him into contact with that Gospel witness and he accepts.
Please quote me, so much conjecture.
 
@KingJ -- no conjecture at all -- just Scripture and I'm not going to go back and quote back to you everything you've said. You show me where I'm wrong. Sounds like you simply don't like the Scriptural truth. It's God's truth.
 
@KingJ -- no conjecture at all -- just Scripture and I'm not going to go back and quote back to you everything you've said. You show me where I'm wrong. Sounds like you simply don't like the Scriptural truth. It's God's truth.

Every one has different opinions of scripture. Yours, mine, his and all the billions that read scripture. Gods truth should be obvious to all. But it is not because we are not yet perfected with him in glory.
 
The Holy Spirit is supposed to be our teacher -- and Scripture is pretty easy to read -- and really to understand the basics of. God's Word is Truth. Many times 'we' resist the truth.

By the time we Are perfected with Him in glory -- it won't matter any more because we'll be In eternity.

I mean, in reality, who really Likes to be called a 'sinner' and want's 'sin' to be specified.
 
I think I realize what the Bible says to me! Fire and Brimstone, possibly. Absence of God, probably....either way, I don't really concern my self with any of it, because, though not perfect, I believe and I will be with God.....Is Hell real?...Well, I think it is a fact that Jesus , in the Bible, talked more about Hell than heaven...you decide what is important!
 
I think I realize what the Bible says to me! Fire and Brimstone, possibly. Absence of God, probably....either way, I don't really concern my self with any of it, because, though not perfect, I believe and I will be with God.....Is Hell real?...Well, I think it is a fact that Jesus , in the Bible, talked more about Hell than heaven...you decide what is important!


Actually -- it's Your Personal decision -- to accept or reject Jesus Christ as your Savior -- on what basis do you believe that You will be with God for all of eternity?
 
Every one has different opinions of scripture. Yours, mine, his and all the billions that read scripture. Gods truth should be obvious to all. But it is not because we are not yet perfected with him in glory.
It is obvious. On the subject of God torturing for example, what in the universe is so confusing about ''The message we have heard from the beginning is that God is light with no darkness in Him at all'' 1 John 1:5.

It is when wicked people read the bible and then teach it that we get mixed messages. People have darkness in them. That is why the bible is full of warnings about false teaching and false teachers.
 
KingJ -- you are So hung up with the 'torture' thing -- God does NOT torture Anyone. He Has set up the future negative consequences of those three entities in Rev. 20 or so. Satan, the beast and the false prophet. Those three entities / people will deserve their consequences. No one else Has to. God has given Everyone else the way to stay Out of that. Why not just follow God's Way.

And, yes, God Is light and no darkness.

A parent who has a teenager who is bound and determined to disobey and act in ways that are harmful to him/ her. The parent gives that teenager plenty of Good stuff to do. But, the teen decides to Challenge the parent. So - the parent lays down the law. If you can't seem to be able to Obey -- then the consequences will be....... Is the parent a 'dark bad' person for following through with the negative consequence? If the teen decides to go out Anyway and gets in a crash and maybe even gets Killed -- is that the parent being a dark/ bad parent? No. Because the parent has provided a good, safe environment and good positive activities. The parent has given that teen all kinds of love , guidance, everything he could need. But when the teen rejects the good loving guidance of the parent -- what happens? the negative consequences go into play. The parent is heart-broken when the teen rebels and Continues in that rebellious state. and when the negative consequences go into effect.

And, yes, you're right. People Do have darkness in us -- because of Adam and Eve -- we All have the propensity For sinning. And God's Word Is full of guidelines and warnings about false teachers. We need to know what His Word Does say.
 
The Holy Spirit is supposed to be our teacher -- and Scripture is pretty easy to read -- and really to understand the basics of. God's Word is Truth. Many times 'we' resist the truth.

By the time we Are perfected with Him in glory -- it won't matter any more because we'll be In eternity.

I mean, in reality, who really Likes to be called a 'sinner' and want's 'sin' to be specified.
It is obvious. On the subject of God torturing for example, what in the universe is so confusing about ''The message we have heard from the beginning is that God is light with no darkness in Him at all'' 1 John 1:5.

It is when wicked people read the bible and then teach it that we get mixed messages. People have darkness in them. That is why the bible is full of warnings about false teaching and false teachers.

KingJ. You imagine that there is no darkness according to your humanity. No one knows God in essence. What if your darkness is God's light and His light is your darkness? Get my drift.
 
KingJ. You imagine that there is no darkness according to your humanity. No one knows God in essence. What if your darkness is God's light and His light is your darkness? Get my drift.
God is not a man that He should lie Num 23:19. God has shown His love for us on the cross. It is the greatest act of love possible John 15:13. He has said He is light with no darkness 1 John 1:5. If you would stop cherry picking scripture and reading with bias and a hidden agenda, you will see in scripture that God is good. Exceedingly good. David says give thanks '''because'''' God is good Psalm 136:1.

We deceive ourselves. The deception is not from God or scripture. When we do not truly want to repent and hate what is wicked. When we do not truly want to lay our lives down for Jesus. We find every excuse and entertain every god bashing theory we can lay hold of. It is all noise. We throwing down banana peels with our self induced deception. One day when you standing before God, there will be no ducking and diving.

We are accountable for our sins. Do you repent of your sins? Are you ready for what comes next? Anyone who does not get on their knees now and work out their salvation in fear and trembling Phil 2:12 will face what comes next completely unprepared. Whether God is who you think He is or not is irrelevant. If you are a saint, you are a saint. If you are a devil, you are a devil. Devils and saints will not be together.

Read 1 Cor 11:31 properly. We have the ability to judge ourselves so that God does not need to.

Can you say that 1. You accept the teachings of Jesus? and 2. That you truly desire to repent of your sins and forgive those who have sinned against you?
 
Who are you replying to? Isa 66 is talking to the millennium, after the tribulation. All the carcasses from the wars. The wicked that never repented and died to God's plagues and wars. There is no 'flesh' in heaven or hell.

Consider that raised bones can stand up. Why must the flesh be present with the bones to share judgment? Yet, God is able to rejoin flesh to bones, with minds containing memories. No unrepentant sinner escapes the full wrath of God.
 
1. He made us and 2. We are called the bride of Christ. 2 Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. Rev 19:7 For the marriage of the Lamb is come and his wife hath made herself ready.

Where did the Bible call Christians the "Bride of Christ"? It doesn't.

What is that verse really saying? People on earth married to another and having children are virgins if a Christian? Any man even once looking at a woman with lust is eligible, thogh no longer a "virgin", even though forgiven if he repents? How can any person revert back to being a virgin and regarded as a virgin for a virgin's marriage?

Nonsense. That verse can only relate to spiritual cleanness or spiritual adultery. The Holy City New Jerusalem is the Bride, only, without exception, admitting the spiritually virtuous into it in the manner of a true virgin presented to a godly husband. Let the Church be so admired of God to enter thereby, each of us having no spot or wrinkle by the cleansing of the blood and word of Jesus. There will be none married or given in marriage in the Heavenly Kingdom. We will all rejoice our entrance into New Jerusalem as with the joy like of a blessed marriage on earth, with a banquet far greater than any earthly marriage supper celebrating one man and one woman.
 
A NEW Rebuilt Body which the Glory of God runs through our veins instead of blood.

After Jesus resurrected He was found to have the scars of the crucifixion. He was not "rebuilt" but was overshadowed by the glory of God. While at it, recent preaching that live Christians now have the holy blood of Jesus in their veins instead of human blood is a horribly false teaching. One is relieved of human blood upon death. None carry His actual blood since it was given back to God in His heavenly temple when Jesus took it to God after meeting Mary post resurrection.

John 20:17 (KJV)
17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

He followed the prescription of High Priest to the letter, presenting His own blood to the Father, which surpassed the requirement of the Law.
There will be no more need of veins for us either.
 
Where did the Bible call Christians the "Bride of Christ"? It doesn't.

What is that verse really saying? People on earth married to another and having children are virgins if a Christian? Any man even once looking at a woman with lust is eligible, thogh no longer a "virgin", even though forgiven if he repents? How can any person revert back to being a virgin and regarded as a virgin for a virgin's marriage?

Nonsense. That verse can only relate to spiritual cleanness or spiritual adultery. The Holy City New Jerusalem is the Bride, only, without exception, admitting the spiritually virtuous into it in the manner of a true virgin presented to a godly husband. Let the Church be so admired of God to enter thereby, each of us having no spot or wrinkle by the cleansing of the blood and word of Jesus. There will be none married or given in marriage in the Heavenly Kingdom. We will all rejoice our entrance into New Jerusalem as with the joy like of a blessed marriage on earth, with a banquet far greater than any earthly marriage supper celebrating one man and one woman.



Born-again believers are the Church -- the Church will be caught up to be with Christ / rapture/ During the 7 yr tribulation time -- in heaven -- the Church / Bride of Christ/ will be united With Christ at the Marriage Super of the Lamb. :)
 
Consider that raised bones can stand up.
Like in Game of Thrones?
Why must the flesh be present with the bones to share judgment?
That is beside the point. The point was it mentioned flesh. Carcasses.
No unrepentant sinner escapes the full wrath of God.
Never said they wouldn't.

Dove don't expect another reply from me if you are not going to properly read posts and grasp what is being said. You have skimmed posts and are just being a disruption.
 
KingJ -- you are So hung up with the 'torture' thing -- God does NOT torture Anyone.
It was nice to read that someone else believes this. I am wondering though why you are not replying to and rebuking all those who do believe God will torture?

He Has set up the future negative consequences of those three entities in Rev. 20 or so. Satan, the beast and the false prophet. Those three entities / people will deserve their consequences. No one else Has to. God has given Everyone else the way to stay Out of that. Why not just follow God's Way.
You just said God does not torture anyone and now you say God tortures only those three.

Those three entities / people will deserve their consequences.
What do you mean by this? Do others not deserve punishment?
 
KingJ -- tortures is something that people do to other people out of meanness -- over and over again to see that other person suffer and suffer off and on or until they die. It's a very sick person who will do that to another human being.

We Are talking about God and His perfect justice compared to what other people or an entity /satan/ and the beast and false prophet who are doing the best they can to deceive human beings Away from the Loving God who created us and provided a perfect environment. Those three people / entities / know exactly who / what they are and what is going to happen to them. The rest of us are human beings who God has made salvation possible For. There's No reason at all, for any of us to end up in the lake of fire and brimstone for eternity.

All of mankind has sinned and deserve hell -- yes -- but God has shown us -- all of us -mercy -- He provided for Our salvation. We accept it or reject it.
 
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