Is there a Division between the sin and person in homosexuality

[Dave M]

Rom 1:32; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only those who do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

Merely approving of other being homosexual makes you worthy of death, even if you don't practice it yourself.

WOW I never saw that before,

reminds me of a recent post on FB I saw a mother proudly displaying here daughters marriage to another women, and they received so many likes, I thought something about it did not feel right but could not pinpoint it until now.


I confess to letting to my cousin and her gay girlfreind stay the night at my house in a spare bedroom just about 3 or 4 years ago, I now know that was a mistake may God forgive me, in Jesus name

 

[Bill]

When encountering demons -- Jesus Christ always caste them Out. He didn't have to tell them to 'go to hell' because He and 'they' already knew where they were headed.

yes, Jesus cast them out. But he was always merciful. Sent them into a herd of pigs.

I understand the pigs thing.

But drowning pigs wont kill demons. Jesus always shows a sense of pity/mercy.

What is even more interesting. Jesus lashes out in anger at the merchants in the temple.

Do you ever take a moment, looking at these two points. And contemplate
Yes, but casting them

 

[Bill]

@Bill,
For believers - homosexuality is no different than porn, stealing, murder, hate, masturbation, or any other "unfruitful work" that prevents the believer from developing in the character/fruit of Jesus Christ. If a person does any of the above activities, there is "zero" character development; leaving the believer feeling guilty, wrong and sad or frustrated.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

So - it is not just for a person to judge the transgression of another when all have sinned, before Christ, and come short of God's glory. While we were "in" our sins Christ died for us and we were guilty of "all" sins. This act of judging a person is unjust and unfruitful. And because Christ is not judging you at this time, it's not wise for you to judge another. God is no respect of persons. Under the Mosaic Law Uzziah was judged and lost his life because he sought to prevent the Arch of the Covenant from possibly falling - homosexuals were also put to death. Two extremely different types of sins, but God allowed them to be judged the same. The wages of sin is death.

It sounds like you don't understand the deceptiveness of Satan and how he works. Jesus died and rose so that you and I can be made free of the bondage of Satan. Christ has given us wisdom to recognize how to see Satan when he comes to us. Most homosexual Christians and heterosexual Christians do not fully understand this wisdom, just like heterosexual fornicators (christians) do not understand this wisdom. This is because the emotional pull is the same as any emotional addiction of anything that brings a person into bondage - it haunts and cripples a person. They are confused when their mind says one thing, but their emotions say something different. This is why scripture teaches, "a city or house divided against itself cannot stand. They are confused by the emotional pull dictating how they should feel towards the same sex. Whether it's thought through or on impulse, a person had to be tempted first; and it's through the temptation the deception and paralyzation of the mind comes into play. The addiction overwhelms them.

If a person is not free, they will do whatever it takes to find some sort of comfort from the mental anguish that Satan torments them with. If they believe the only way to get relief from the mental pain is to act as if what they are doing is normal, they will - but it's not to rub it in the face of those that are of the contrary. They are not flaunting it in many cases, just, accepting what they understand themselves to be. Don't be the main character in your post... "Are Christians Killing Christians."

I had to go back and take a little more time reading your comments.

I would disagree on your view of homosexuality, lumping them together with steeling murder and so on.

This is an example of my mind : 1st all sin removes us from God, period.

2nd let us look at rape versus steeling. In my personal opinion, rape is much more hynus (sp) a crime than steeling. It affects not only the woman (and from the moment of the act, her life can be changed for many years even till her death) and immediate family, but her children born from the act.

Homosexuality affects more than this. This gift to have children in the first place, is thown to the dogs. The total misuse of the Temple of the Holy Spirit, not to mention Gods distain written in scripture several times.

No one caught stealing had thier homes, much less city destroyed by fire.

 

[Bill]

@Bill,
When your acts were foolish in the times of your ignorance, you flaunted your foolishness everytime you were foolish because it was about "self;" only about you. When you learned better, you stopped acting a fool in the areas of your life and you quit flaunting it for others to see. So - give them the opportunity to learn what you have, and give them the grace to learn that God gave you.

Being a fool for God has nothing to do with pride, infact it is the opposite.

A few years ago i was invited to a church. During the service, at the alter call. A lady broke down crying God forgive me, God forgive me. She was on her knees sobbing, never made it to the preacher.

The Lord spoke to me. He said "tell her I said, your sins are forgiven" i replied to the Lord, i will do it after alter call. The Lord said "do it now" i said to the Lord, iwill look like a fool, and He said "then look like a fool".

And i got up, knelt next to her and spoke loudly in her ear (music was loud) the lord told me to tell you , your sins are forgiven

 

[Bill]

@Bill,
For believers - homosexuality is no different than porn, stealing, murder, hate, masturbation, or any other "unfruitful work" that prevents the believer from developing in the character/fruit of Jesus Christ. If a person does any of the above activities, there is "zero" character development; leaving the believer feeling guilty, wrong and sad or frustrated.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

So - it is not just for a person to judge the transgression of another when all have sinned, before Christ, and come short of God's glory. While we were "in" our sins Christ died for us and we were guilty of "all" sins. This act of judging a person is unjust and unfruitful. And because Christ is not judging you at this time, it's not wise for you to judge another. God is no respect of persons. Under the Mosaic Law Uzziah was judged and lost his life because he sought to prevent the Arch of the Covenant from possibly falling - homosexuals were also put to death. Two extremely different types of sins, but God allowed them to be judged the same. The wages of sin is death.

It sounds like you don't understand the deceptiveness of Satan and how he works. Jesus died and rose so that you and I can be made free of the bondage of Satan. Christ has given us wisdom to recognize how to see Satan when he comes to us. Most homosexual Christians and heterosexual Christians do not fully understand this wisdom, just like heterosexual fornicators (christians) do not understand this wisdom. This is because the emotional pull is the same as any emotional addiction of anything that brings a person into bondage - it haunts and cripples a person. They are confused when their mind says one thing, but their emotions say something different. This is why scripture teaches, "a city or house divided against itself cannot stand. They are confused by the emotional pull dictating how they should feel towards the same sex. Whether it's thought through or on impulse, a person had to be tempted first; and it's through the temptation the deception and paralyzation of the mind comes into play. The addiction overwhelms them.

If a person is not free, they will do whatever it takes to find some sort of comfort from the mental anguish that Satan torments them with. If they believe the only way to get relief from the mental pain is to act as if what they are doing is normal, they will - but it's not to rub it in the face of those that are of the contrary. They are not flaunting it in many cases, just, accepting what they understand themselves to be. Don't be the main character in your post... "Are Christians Killing Christians."

You make a comment about "homosexual Christians " that would be like saying Wiccan Christians, or Voodoo Christians.

You cant mix oil and water.

 

[Bill]

@Bill,
For believers - homosexuality is no different than porn, stealing, murder, hate, masturbation, or any other "unfruitful work" that prevents the believer from developing in the character/fruit of Jesus Christ. If a person does any of the above activities, there is "zero" character development; leaving the believer feeling guilty, wrong and sad or frustrated.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

So - it is not just for a person to judge the transgression of another when all have sinned, before Christ, and come short of God's glory. While we were "in" our sins Christ died for us and we were guilty of "all" sins. This act of judging a person is unjust and unfruitful. And because Christ is not judging you at this time, it's not wise for you to judge another. God is no respect of persons. Under the Mosaic Law Uzziah was judged and lost his life because he sought to prevent the Arch of the Covenant from possibly falling - homosexuals were also put to death. Two extremely different types of sins, but God allowed them to be judged the same. The wages of sin is death.

It sounds like you don't understand the deceptiveness of Satan and how he works. Jesus died and rose so that you and I can be made free of the bondage of Satan. Christ has given us wisdom to recognize how to see Satan when he comes to us. Most homosexual Christians and heterosexual Christians do not fully understand this wisdom, just like heterosexual fornicators (christians) do not understand this wisdom. This is because the emotional pull is the same as any emotional addiction of anything that brings a person into bondage - it haunts and cripples a person. They are confused when their mind says one thing, but their emotions say something different. This is why scripture teaches, "a city or house divided against itself cannot stand. They are confused by the emotional pull dictating how they should feel towards the same sex. Whether it's thought through or on impulse, a person had to be tempted first; and it's through the temptation the deception and paralyzation of the mind comes into play. The addiction overwhelms them.

If a person is not free, they will do whatever it takes to find some sort of comfort from the mental anguish that Satan torments them with. If they believe the only way to get relief from the mental pain is to act as if what they are doing is normal, they will - but it's not to rub it in the face of those that are of the contrary. They are not flaunting it in many cases, just, accepting what they understand themselves to be. Don't be the main character in your post... "Are Christians Killing Christians."

that post title is Are Christains killing Christianity

@Bill,
For believers - homosexuality is no different than porn, stealing, murder, hate, masturbation, or any other "unfruitful work" that prevents the believer from developing in the character/fruit of Jesus Christ. If a person does any of the above activities, there is "zero" character development; leaving the believer feeling guilty, wrong and sad or frustrated.

James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

So - it is not just for a person to judge the transgression of another when all have sinned, before Christ, and come short of God's glory. While we were "in" our sins Christ died for us and we were guilty of "all" sins. This act of judging a person is unjust and unfruitful. And because Christ is not judging you at this time, it's not wise for you to judge another. God is no respect of persons. Under the Mosaic Law Uzziah was judged and lost his life because he sought to prevent the Arch of the Covenant from possibly falling - homosexuals were also put to death. Two extremely different types of sins, but God allowed them to be judged the same. The wages of sin is death.

It sounds like you don't understand the deceptiveness of Satan and how he works. Jesus died and rose so that you and I can be made free of the bondage of Satan. Christ has given us wisdom to recognize how to see Satan when he comes to us. Most homosexual Christians and heterosexual Christians do not fully understand this wisdom, just like heterosexual fornicators (christians) do not understand this wisdom. This is because the emotional pull is the same as any emotional addiction of anything that brings a person into bondage - it haunts and cripples a person. They are confused when their mind says one thing, but their emotions say something different. This is why scripture teaches, "a city or house divided against itself cannot stand. They are confused by the emotional pull dictating how they should feel towards the same sex. Whether it's thought through or on impulse, a person had to be tempted first; and it's through the temptation the deception and paralyzation of the mind comes into play. The addiction overwhelms them.

If a person is not free, they will do whatever it takes to find some sort of comfort from the mental anguish that Satan torments them with. If they believe the only way to get relief from the mental pain is to act as if what they are doing is normal, they will - but it's not to rub it in the face of those that are of the contrary. They are not flaunting it in many cases, just, accepting what they understand themselves to be. Don't be the main character in your post... "Are Christians Killing Christians."

i just wanted you to know. Im not picking on you. Just been away for a while and catching up

Btw. That article title is Are Christians Killing Christianity