Mask talk???

[Hekuran]

Greetings Dave,

It is important to remember who we are.
The opposition to the Gospel is always keen to point out as much as possible any and every fault that can be leveled at Christians, thereby against Him Whose name we represent.
People are always looking for a scapegoat to blame, as well .
In the scenario that you ask about, all it would take is for someone to put forward a summary report of the percentage of those who state they are Christian who are either refusing to or have been caught not wearing alleged protective masks and it is suddenly all the Christians fault.
More importantly though is that we can rub the name of our LORD in disgrace by our actions against authorities and we have to ask ourselves if we want to add to the great damage that has already been done by the innumerable bad things that professing Christian people have done throughout history.
When people speak about Christ and His Church, should they be able to say that not only are Christians trouble but also that they set a rebellious example to others and that that is how you can tell that they are Christian?
People judge Christianity by what they see Christians do.

Let us add to all that that we are pilgrims and foreigners and this is not our home. Therefore, let us not get preoccupied with the way of the world but let us rather be occupied with Him until He returns.




But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of Him Who hath called you out of darkness into His marvellous light: which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.


Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.


Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: as free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
1Peter 2:9-20

so that you may be blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and perverse generation, in which you shine as lights in the world
Philippians 2:15


Bless you ....><>

In defence of @Dave M. I believe his position is that the pandemic is vastly exaggerated and masks pointless. But he wears a mask in public so that he does not cause fear or distress to anyone else. And he'd not do anything that brings the gospel into disrepute.

I think he's got the public science element badly wrong, and the Christian attitude and behaviour element exactly right.

 

[Br. Bear]

@Hekuran

Greetings Brother,

Most certainly there is no need for defense as my post replied to Dave's @Dave M thread starter, asking about that which I attempted to answer.
Forgive me please (one and all) if I failed to convey a peaceful and brotherly reply.

We would all do well to remember that Jesus said,
"I pray not that Thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
John 17:15-16


Bless you both ....><>

 

[Dave M]

here is a a real talk about the mask start listening at 37.39 for the truth about mask and how they are ineffective

mask are made to stop particles size of micrones at 1.25 at best,,,if the virus is smaller the mask can not stop it CVOID is 0.33 is size so you can not stop the virus with these mask.

 

[Hekuran]

I'm not sure if that pair are ignorant or being deliberately deceptive. They are misrepresenting the purpose of wearing a mask and then using that to say they don't work.

True, wearing a mask will not do much to prevent the wearer from an incoming virus. Covid-19 can easily pass through it.

But that is not the purpose of wearing the mask. The mask is worn to prevent the wearer from spreading the disease, and in this it is effective. That is because every time we breathe out we release small droplets of moisture, which can carry the virus. The mask will catch these water droplets and prevent the virus escaping and infecting others. It's not 100% effective, but it does make a significant difference.

The mask will do very little to protect the wearer, but will help protect the neighbours of the wearer.

Men taking a public platform like this have a duty and a responsibility to share information that is accurate and not misleading. Shameful that they are speaking under the banner of Bible prophecy, and embarrassing that when I say I follow Jesus I am linked to people like this.

 

[Gregoryp]

In defence of @Dave M. I believe his position is that the pandemic is vastly exaggerated and masks pointless. But he wears a mask in public so that he does not cause fear or distress to anyone else. And he'd not do anything that brings the gospel into disrepute.

I think he's got the public science element badly wrong, and the Christian attitude and behaviour element exactly right.

We are not here to appease mankind and his fear thinking. We are here to wake people up to the dangers they are about to face. There is a coming catastrophe never before seen in the world and never will, a dangerous existence, and particularly for christians. Many will be beheaded for the sake of Jesus. So for goodness sake, if you dont want to wear a mask, then dont. Stop living in terror, Jesus has already won.

 

[Hekuran]

We are not here to appease mankind and his fear thinking. We are here to wake people up to the dangers they are about to face. There is a coming catastrophe never before seen in the world and never will, a dangerous existence, and particularly for christians. Many will be beheaded for the sake of Jesus. So for goodness sake, if you dont want to wear a mask, then dont. Stop living in terror, Jesus has already won.

I'm not in the least bit fearful about covid-19. It's a nasty disease and of course I'm taking reasonable steps to avoid passing on infection. My actions are determined by concern for my neighbours. I'm not at all impressed that you have assumed you know my emotional state.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

What are your thoughts on this mandate for wearing mask?? from a biblical perspective if possible.

thanks

This whole pandemic thing is political. It has little to nothing to do with actual health. This 'pandemic' will end when we all submit to total government control of our lives.

 

[Sue D.]

Well -- the virus Is real enough. People do die from it and lots more do not get it or get it and recover. But yes -- it was political to begin with. Maybe some biological warfare being experimented with.

As for the mask wearing thing. I get on FB discussions about that frequently.

We do need to use common sense when coughing / sneezing which is where the mask wearing is supposed to be helping. I automatically cover my nose / mouth When coughing / sneezing. That Should be part of personal hygiene being practiced. And a person turning their head away from people when they do Sneeze / cough. And washing hands after that. Those actions Usually bring on the need for blowing the nose.

Companies are making Lots of money from the sale Of all those masks and face coverings. The only times I wear any is at Walmart or church.

The pastor of the small church I go to Did recently die From COVID. The church was deep cleaned and social distancing was continued along with masking. He was early elderly as are lots of people in the church. Many are listening to service on-line / virtual church.

And, unfortunately various groups are pushing numbers that may or may Not be correct. Lots of things are being labeled as COVID that aren't. So, yes, it is / always has been political. Something accidentally got released from a research lab in China. Nothing was done to prevent its' spreading right at first. That was the plan by a few people.

But - having shared all of this -- spiritually -- every person needs to be ready to 'meet our Maker'. Lots of people die from other things. And Jesus Christ could come back for His Church at any time. Unless the rapture takes place Before a person dies -- everyone will die at some point.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

And have you noticed how they separate people? Go to pay for your groceries..plexiglass walls, six feet apart, masks, and so on...Nobody talks to anybody in the stores anymore, they all walk a wide circle around each other...making it look like a demented square dance. Everybody is walking in terror of each other. Just like slaves of the state. Just like the Nazi German state of Hitler and company. I will die before I become any man's slave...

 

[Sue D.]

@Admon -- maybe that's where You are, but not around where I'm at. Maybe it's what the media wants us to think -- but it's not really Fact. "They" are trying to make it political -- they will succeed as much as we allow them to. And I do know where prophesy says we're headed. But in the process Of, we're finding out what's important to us.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

@Admon -- maybe that's where You are, but not around where I'm at. Maybe it's what the media wants us to think -- but it's not really Fact. "They" are trying to make it political -- they will succeed as much as we allow them to. And I do know where prophesy says we're headed. But in the process Of, we're finding out what's important to us.

You're right Sue...They're working on forming the one world government