Mid trib fleeing of Israel

rodd · Feb 5, 2014

NoHype said:
Wish I could agree with you on that matter, but I'm sorry, I cannot. Have you read the book of Enoch (Ethiopic version, not the new ager's version)? It shows places of separation in the Heavenly where God's Abode is. But the separations are like the one Jesus revealed in Luke 16 about Lazarus and the rich man. With Paradise in Luke 16, we're shown a great gulf fixed border between the abode of hell where the rich man was, and the other side where Abraham and Lazarus were.

In 2 Pet.2:4, the Greek word for "hell" there is tartaroo from Tartaros or Tartarus. To the ancient Greeks Tartaros was a pit in the deepest depths beneath the earth. 2 Peter 2:4 uses that Greek idea to refer to where God cast the angels that sinned against Him to. It is not a material earthly location nor a material heaven (sky, universe) location. Its described location is simply using terms that we are able to better understand, because we have no comparison here in our material dimension with that Tartarus location, simply because it is of the other dimension behind a veil. Some brethren even go so far as to actually think that pit is literaly inside the earth somewhere, just because they cannot grasp the idea of the Heavenly dimension existing behind a veil of our earthly material dimension.

In 2 Peter2:4 we have the result of the angels who left their place of abode (the second heaven) the result was their internment in dark chambers under the earth, whether they are natural or supernatural the scripture does not say, but we know they are there. Their sin is described in Genesis 6:4.
They left their assigned places and came down from the stars or realms in space.
The abode of man is the location under the first heaven, the location of demonic spirits is the cosmos and the air or atmosphere of earth. the domain of God is the third heaven according to scripture, beyond that which he made in Genesis for the obvious reason, he pre-existed in his heaven before he created the heavens and the earth.
Time will tell who is correct,

Rod

Eric E Stahl · Feb 5, 2014

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The abomination will happen 30 days before the great tribulation starts.

Daniel 12:11
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

The woman Israel in Revelation 12:13-14 flees when the devil is cast down and persecutes Israel for a times, time and half a time or 3.5 years.

NoHype · Feb 5, 2014

Eric E Stahl said:
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Daniel 9:27
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Matthew 24:15-22
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The abomination will happen 30 days before the great tribulation starts.

Daniel 12:11
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

The woman Israel in Revelation 12:13-14 flees when the devil is cast down and persecutes Israel for a times, time and half a time or 3.5 years.

Lot of folks get that Daniel 12:11 verse wrong, taking it out of that chapter by itself while failing to compare it to the time event flow of Dan.8:13-14 and Dan.9:27 and Dan.11:23 thru Dan.12:2, and especially the question asked in Dan.12 of when will all these things be finished.

Dan 12:6-12
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by Him That liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
(KJV)

Per the subject flow of Dan.12:6 forward, the question of when shall be the end of all these things is asked, twice. The 3.5 years of Dan.12:7 is the latter half of the 7 years, showing that is when all these things will be finished. Then Dan.12:8 asks the question again when all these things will be finished, which is the subject of the latter 1260 days + a 30 day period (cleansing of the sanctuary) + a 45 day period (The King of kings, His Palace, and His children brought to Him - Ps.45).

So from the Mid point when the pact is broken with the sacrifices ended and the abomination idol placed, to the time when Christ will come and end the false messiah's reign, will be 1260 days, at which point will begin the 30 days of cleansing the sanctuary per Dan.8:13-14, and when Jesus will buid the temple of Ezekiel per Zech.6. And then the next 45 day period is when we shall be presented to The King as His children that He may make princes per Ps.45. Thus the complete time period is the latter half of Daniel's "one week", plus 30 days, plus 45 days to make it a total of 1335 days to the only Beautitude in the Book of Daniel, when Christ's children are blessed.

NoHype · Feb 5, 2014

rodd said:
In 2 Peter2:4 we have the result of the angels who left their place of abode (the second heaven) the result was their internment in dark chambers under the earth, whether they are natural or supernatural the scripture does not say, but we know they are there.

We know the angels are not of our fleshy material dimension by other Scripture in God's Word. Even after our Lord Jesus appeared among His disciples after His resurrection we know His resurrected body was different than our flesh body, for He appeared in their midst out of nowhere, and also disappeared right within their midst. That is a sign of the Heavenly state existence, not our fleshy existence here on earth.

The idea that the angels which sinned are in the earth, or under the earth was from Greek mythology, and only used in the NT writings to describe their spiritual condition of lowness in the Heavenly. Even the Biblical idea of the pit/abyss is only a symbol for a place of separation in the Heavenly away from God. It does not mean they are literally in the earth or underneath the earth. The pagans called that place the underworld, and it was at a time when people still believed the earth was flat.

Eric E Stahl · Feb 6, 2014

NoHype said:
Lot of folks get that Daniel 12:11 verse wrong, taking it out of that chapter by itself while failing to compare it to the time event flow of Dan.8:13-14 and Dan.9:27 and Dan.11:23 thru Dan.12:2, and especially the question asked in Dan.12 of when will all these things be finished.

Dan 12:6-12
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by Him That liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
(KJV)

Per the subject flow of Dan.12:6 forward, the question of when shall be the end of all these things is asked, twice. The 3.5 years of Dan.12:7 is the latter half of the 7 years, showing that is when all these things will be finished. Then Dan.12:8 asks the question again when all these things will be finished, which is the subject of the latter 1260 days + a 30 day period (cleansing of the sanctuary) + a 45 day period (The King of kings, His Palace, and His children brought to Him - Ps.45).

So from the Mid point when the pact is broken with the sacrifices ended and the abomination idol placed, to the time when Christ will come and end the false messiah's reign, will be 1260 days, at which point will begin the 30 days of cleansing the sanctuary per Dan.8:13-14, and when Jesus will buid the temple of Ezekiel per Zech.6. And then the next 45 day period is when we shall be presented to The King as His children that He may make princes per Ps.45. Thus the complete time period is the latter half of Daniel's "one week", plus 30 days, plus 45 days to make it a total of 1335 days to the only Beautitude in the Book of Daniel, when Christ's children are blessed.

rodd · Feb 6, 2014

Thanks for these verses in Daniel 12:6+7, I can now see how these verses correspond to my mid point rapture belief. Never really saw it there before, but it's there.
It's now after 12am, goodnight.

Praise God for giving more insight.

Rod.

NoHype · Feb 7, 2014

Eric E Stahl said:
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NoHype,

During the 75 days from the end of the tribulation till the 1335th day the judgment of the survivors on earth will take place.

That's not accurate. And I already gave you the reasons why from the Book of Daniel. If you try to interpret the Dan.12:11-12 verses like it's a Mid point, it will not agree with the timing of Dan.9:27, nor Dan.8:13-14, nor the events about the final 5th beast and time when Christ's reign is, etc. In other words, it would mean you'd have to have Scripture evidence in all those OTHER Daniel Scriptures also, and you do not.

So by interpreting Dan.12:11-12 as if it's about a Mid point rapture, and then the 1260 days tribulation, you have destroyed the timing given by all those other Daniel Scriptures. It means there is only one proper way to read the Dan.12:11-12 verse timing... and it is this...

Dan 12:11-12
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
(KJV)

From the time the daily sacrifice will be taken away, AND the abomination setup, there will be 1260 days after that.

That is the ONLY way that Dan.12:11 verse will fit the following timing...

Dan 12:7
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
(KJV)

What is very important to note in that Dan.12:7 verse? The timing when the false one "shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people". That timing is given in the previous phrase as 3.5 years, the same as 1260 days of Dan.12:11. And then "all these things shall be finished" which means the end of the tribulation of 1260 days, the latter half.

The coming Antichrist will only have accompished that towards the end of the last 1260 days of Daniel's "one week". That means 1260 days PAST... the Mid point, and towards the end of the 7 years ("one week").

The great tribulation period Jesus warned of begins with the end of the daily sacrifice and placing of the abomination of desolation, which is at the Mid point of the 7 years per Dan.9:27...

Dan 9:27
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(KJV)

NoHype · Feb 7, 2014

Here's a chart of those events for Daniel's "one week" (7 years)

[-----------------------------"one week" Dan.9:27 total 2520 days----------------------------]
[-----------1260 days-------------][---MID POINT--------][---1260 days tribulation-------][-30 days][45 days]
[---"league" Dan.11:23---------][sacrifice end/AOD-][----3.5 years scattering-------][Christ's coming/gathering

NoHype · Feb 8, 2014

Here's a more complete timeline of the events in the Book of Daniel for the end, then Christ's coming, and forward.

[--------------------Daniel 9:27 "one week" 2520 days total/7 years------------------------------------] * END OF
_________________[--2300 days / Dan.8:13-14 to sanctuary cleansed--------------------------------] * PRESENT
[--220 days-------][----1040 days---------][--sacrif. end-------------][---"great tribulation"------------] * WORLD
[---------1260 days/1st half----------------][---MID POINT----------][---1260 days/latter half--------] *
[-"league' Dan.11][-sacrf.& temple---][---AOD placed----------][---42 month dragon reign------] *
[-"little horn" prep for reign in Jrslm.-][-flee to mountains---][---two wittness/1260 days-----] *
_____________________________________][--worship and bowing to image of the beast-----------] * (see * below)

----][ * Day of The LORD (1 Thess.5 / 2 Pet.3:10)
----][ * Christ's coming "as a thief" (Matt.24:29-31 / Mark 13:24-27; 1 Thess.5; 2 Pet.3:10; Rev.16:15)
----][ * nation's shocked at Christ's appearance (Rev.11:11-15; Rev.6:15-17)
----][ * battle of Armageddon (in connection with Ezek.38-39 events)
----][ * the resurrection of John 5:28-29
----][ * gathering of Christ's Church (1 Thess.5 / 1 Cor.15)
----][ * "caught up" of 1 Thess.4
----][ * "last trump" of 1 Cor.15
----][ * tribulation ended by Christ's coming (Rev.11:12 fwd./ 2 Thess.2:8)
----][ * Christ's feet touch down on the Mount of Olives (Zech.14)
----][ * the 30 days of Dan.12:11 - cleansing of the sanctuary begins
----][ * -------30 days-----------][--- 45 days of Dan.12:11 Christ's saints blessed------]
----][ * Christ's "thousand years" reign begins (Rev.20)
----][ * dragon locked in his pit prison for a thousand years (Rev.19-20)
----][ * division of Christ's sheep from the goats (Matt.25)
----][ * door shut on the five foolish virgins (Matt.25)
----][ * those who have right to tree of life enter into the holy city (Rev.22:14)
----][ * the "outer darkness" manifested on earth outside the holy city on earth (Rev.22:15)
----][ * temple of Ezekiel established for the "thousand years" (Ezek.40 thru 47)
----][ * those of synagogue of Satan made to bow to Christ at feet of His elect (Rev.3:9)
----][ * blindness God put upon unbelieving Jews removed (Rom.11:7; Rom.11:25-29)
----][ * unbelieving Jews mourn for Christ as a long lost Son (Zech.12)
----][ * those who fell away appear spiritually naked and in shame (Rev.16:15)
----][ * all kingdoms of this world become those of God and His Christ (Rev.11:15-18)
----][ * those who come against Jerusalem melt (Zech.14:12-15)
----][ * those left of those nations required to go up to Jerusalem to worship The KING (Zech.12:16-19)
----][ * those that murmured shall learn doctrine, those that erred in spirit understand (Isaiah 29:22-24)
----][ * people taught difference between the unclean and the clean (Ezek.44:23)
----][ * the people that erred stand in judgment for the thousand years (Ezek.44:24)

It may be difficult to believe that so many of those * events begin at the end of the last 1260 days tribulation when Jesus returns, but that's when they all will begin to occur, many of them instantly with Christ's coming.

Eric E Stahl · Feb 8, 2014

NoHype said:
That's not accurate. And I already gave you the reasons why from the Book of Daniel. If you try to interpret the Dan.12:11-12 verses like it's a Mid point, it will not agree with the timing of Dan.9:27, nor Dan.8:13-14, nor the events about the final 5th beast and time when Christ's reign is, etc. In other words, it would mean you'd have to have Scripture evidence in all those OTHER Daniel Scriptures also, and you do not.

So by interpreting Dan.12:11-12 as if it's about a Mid point rapture, and then the 1260 days tribulation, you have destroyed the timing given by all those other Daniel Scriptures. It means there is only one proper way to read the Dan.12:11-12 verse timing... and it is this...

Dan 12:11-12
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
(KJV)

From the time the daily sacrifice will be taken away, AND the abomination setup, there will be 1260 days after that.

That is the ONLY way that Dan.12:11 verse will fit the following timing...

Dan 12:7
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
(KJV)

What is very important to note in that Dan.12:7 verse? [/SIZE]The timing when the false one "shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people". That timing is given in the previous phrase as 3.5 years, the same as 1260 days of Dan.12:11. And then "all these things shall be finished" which means the end of the tribulation of 1260 days, the latter half.

The coming Antichrist will only have accompished that towards the end of the last 1260 days of Daniel's "one week". That means 1260 days PAST... the Mid point, and towards the end of the 7 years ("one week").

The great tribulation period Jesus warned of begins with the end of the daily sacrifice and placing of the abomination of desolation, which is at the Mid point of the 7 years per Dan.9:27...

Dan 9:27
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(KJV)

Daniel 12:11
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
(KJV)
The antichrist will enter and desecrate the temple 30 days before the 1260 days of the great tribulation starts.The Jews will reject him and he will call the armies of the world to come and surround Jerusalem. Zechariah 14:1-4 tells us the Lord will come to make away to escape.

NoHype · Feb 9, 2014

Eric E Stahl said:
Daniel 12:11
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
(KJV)
The antichrist will enter and desecrate the temple 30 days before the 1260 days of the great tribulation starts.The Jews will reject him and he will call the armies of the world to come and surround Jerusalem. Zechariah 14:1-4 tells us the Lord will come to make away to escape.

That's not the correct order of events per the Book of Daniel.

Eric E Stahl · Mar 15, 2014

NoHype said:
That's not the correct order of events per the Book of Daniel.

Explain that with scripture please!

RJ · Mar 15, 2014

No matter what occurs in the future, the fullness of the Lord will be here for most of us sooner than later; are you ready!

NoHype · Mar 17, 2014

Eric E Stahl said:
Explain that with scripture please!

I've already given you a mountain of Scripture evidence in my previous posts on this very thread. Your actions show you don't heed it as written, so more Scripture proof isn't going to do you any good at this time.

Eric E Stahl · Mar 18, 2014

NoHype said:
I've already given you a mountain of Scripture evidence in my previous posts on this very thread. Your actions show you don't heed it as written, so more Scripture proof isn't going to do you any good at this time.

NoHype,

When you study the prophets you will find that the end of the books often are describing the end of time. Daniel also follows that pattern.

NoHype · Mar 21, 2014

Eric E Stahl said:
NoHype,

When you study the prophets you will find that the end of the books often are describing the end of time. Daniel also follows that pattern.

Yes, I well know and understand that, and... that is the timing from the Book of Daniel I covered in my previous posts, and... as it relates to prophecy given in the New Testament for the very end. Apparently you didn't read any of it, so what's the problem?

norapture · Mar 28, 2014

I'm new here but have a few questions. Does the dead in Christ rise first? And if so when do they rise? What trump? And how many trumps are they? And is this the first ressurection? And is this when the last enemy shall be destroyed (death)? When does Jesus say he will raise up all his farther has giving him? When does he say the ressurection is ? And if the church is the body will it be cut into, to be caught up on two diff times? Or is the church one body?

Eric E Stahl · Mar 28, 2014

norapture said:
I'm new here but have a few questions. Does the dead in Christ rise first? And if so when do they rise? What trump? And how many trumps are they? And is this the first ressurection? And is this when the last enemy shall be destroyed (death)? When does Jesus say he will raise up all his farther has giving him? When does he say the ressurection is ? And if the church is the body will it be cut into, to be caught up on two diff times? Or is the church one body?

Norapture,
When our earthly body or house for our spirit dies, our spirit is taken to heaven and we are given a new house for our spirit. At the time of the rapture or calling up of our changed earthly bodies our heavenly bodies will be put on our raptured earthly bodies as a cloak then Jesus will take us back to heaven. Psalm 149:4-7a tells us that we will rest and praise God while we wait for the rest of the body of Christ to come to heaven.

2 Corinthians 5:1-10
1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

NoHype · Mar 28, 2014

norapture said:
I'm new here but have a few questions. Does the dead in Christ rise first? And if so when do they rise? What trump? And how many trumps are they? And is this the first ressurection? And is this when the last enemy shall be destroyed (death)? When does Jesus say he will raise up all his farther has giving him? When does he say the ressurection is ? And if the church is the body will it be cut into, to be caught up on two diff times? Or is the church one body?

1. Does the dead in Christ rise first? And if so when do they rise? What trump?

1 Thess.4:16 tells us the dead in Christ will rise first. 1 Cor.15:52 is the parallel Scripture to that which says on the "last trump". In Revelation 11 our Lord Jesus gave us the last trumpet to sound as the 7th Trumpet. Then we in Christ which are still alive on earth at that trumpet will be gathered with them and Jesus.

2. And how many trumps are they?

Our Lord gave 7 in His Revelation through Apostle John. But only the last one involves the events above.

3. And is this the first ressurection?

Yes.

4. And is this when the last enemy shall be destroyed (death)?

No, because that 1 Cor.15:26 is actually referring to Satan destroyed in the future "lake of fire" of Rev.20. Death is another one of Satan's titles in Scripture (Rev.6). Death is swallowed up in victory for those of the first resurrection, but death is not destroyed until Christ's future "thousand years" reign is over, per the end of Rev.20. That chapter tells us there will still be a "second death" in that future time those not of the first resurrection will still be subject to.

5. When does Jesus say he will raise up all his farther has giving him?

On the last day, which means the last day of this present world, which is when He comes to gather His saints.

6. When does he say the ressurection is ?

In John 5:28-29 Christ revealed at the sound of His voice, which is the timing aligned with the final trumpet sounding, the dead will come forth, some unto the resurrection of life and others unto the resurrection of damnation. Thus the wicked dead will be raised too on that same day of His coming but will still be subject to the "second death" which is destruction in the future "lake of fire".

7. And if the church is the body will it be cut into, to be caught up on two diff times? Or is the church one body?

Christ's Church is one Body of believers on The Father through His Son Jesus Christ. Obviously not all the Church is still alive here on earth with us. That's why Apostle Paul said in 1 Thess.4 that Jesus will bring those who 'sleep' with Him when He comes to gather those of us still alive here on earth. Members in Heaven with Jesus now and those of us in Christ yet here on earth still make up His one Body though.

Christ's second coming is a one-time event in the future. It is also a one-time gathering of His saints, both those saints in Heaven, and His saints still alive here on earth at that last trump. And in Matt.24 and Mark 13 He revealed that gathering will take place after the great tribulation He mentioned, which is when His coming will be.

norapture · Mar 28, 2014

Thanks Eric, and NoHype. Why do some people say the church won't be here during the tribulation ? And they have so many scriptures.

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