Russia Invades Ukraine

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I listen to the BBC - the world's radio station - here downunder.
I have always found them to be extremely politically correct and WOKE.
Forever promoting LGBTQIA+ issues and transgender biographies, along with all the usual social issues that Marxists and Greenies preach on.
The BBC is anti-Christian and against the gospel, choosing to side with Sodom and Gomorrah against those speaking the Word of God.

' I have seen all the works that are done under the sun;
and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
That which is crooked cannot be made straight:
and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.'
(Ecc 1:14-15)

Hello @Waggles,

The BBC is of the earth, earthy, so what do you expect? How can you expect them, or any other human agency to make righteous judgements. It is only God in Christ Jesus Who can do that. But they are monitored and regulated and do attempt to record what they see with their eyes and hear with their ears in the light of that measure, so that is as good as you are going to get under the sun.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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And that isn't your fault, as that is the narrative we have been fed for about 3 generations. But there is a bigger picture we cannot see, and the west's immediate and sudden refusal to supply boots on the ground, given our past history of being quick to do so.. speaks volumes about something.. I just can't tell exactly what.

A Bbc reporter asked the finnish president some interesting questions today and it seemed obvious to me he could not answer her directly, but he talked around around some issues. At one point she asked him if ukraine is a sacrifice. I think it is. NATO can't just do away with Russia, china, NK, Syria, and a few others even though they might want to.

The west who will not listen to the East's point of view, has no hope of de-escalating this, or future conflicts.

Hello @joestue,

If NATO put 'boots on the ground,' as you say, or supplied the means of an air corridor as that beleaguered nation desperately desires, and NATO would love to provide, it could very well result in another world war. Would you want to make that decision? Could you in all conscience subject the nations of the world to that prospect? NATO and the nations of the world are doing what they can to bring the governing body within Russia to its senses, and deliver Ukraine from the pain and deprivation of war, by every means that they have at their disposal which will not lead to a third world war.

* I believe that China is also watching, to see how NATO and the countries of the west react in this situation, because they want to do the same to Taiwan.

* Russia is testing the waters, and is learning a lot about NATO's strengths and weaknesses, and that of the western nations: for I do not believe he will stop at Ukraine, but will want to take back all that was part of the USSR eventually, and bring Finland within it's borders too.

* I watched the BBC reporting from Finland today too: and heard of their fears, and of Russia's threatening rhetoric towards that country.

* It is interesting that Israel has offering to act as Mediator in this present crisis.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[joestue]

NATO and the nations of the world are doing what they can to bring the governing body within Russia to its senses, and deliver Ukraine from the pain and deprivation of war by every means that they have at their disposal, which will not lead to world war.

I don't believe it until I see it

 

[PloughBoy]

No @PloughBoy,

'That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.'
(Philippians 2:10-11)

LOL, “should bow” Or “Going to BOW”?
“should confess” are “going to confess”?

NASB
10so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEEWILL BOW, of those who are inheaven and on earth and underthe earth, 11and that everytongue will confess that JesusChrist is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

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LOL, “should bow” Or “Going to BOW”?
“should confess” are “going to confess”?

NASB
10so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEEWILL BOW, of those who are inheaven and on earth and underthe earth, 11and that everytongue will confess that JesusChrist is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Hello @PloughBoy,

I believe the KJV and it's use of the word 'should' is correct in Philippians 2:10-11, for not all will: there will be those who will not bow the knee, and will be judged accordingly.

' Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,
That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength:
even to him shall men come;
and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.'
(Isa 45:22-25)

* Here in Isaiah, all the seed of Israel shall be justified and shall glory, and every knee shall bow and tongue swear, but in Philippians the nations are in mind and not Israel, and there an element of contingency is introduced with the word, 'should', for not all (within the nations) will receive Him or bow the knee and shall bear the consequences for not doing so I believe.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

Hello @PloughBoy,

I believe the KJV and it's use of the word 'should' is correct in Philippians 2:10-11, for not all will: there will be those who will not bow the knee, and will be judged accordingly.

' Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,
That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength:
even to him shall men come;
and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.'
(Isa 45:22-25)

* Here in Isaiah, all the seed of Israel shall be justified and shall glory, and every knee shall bow and tongue swear, but in Philippians the nations are in mind and not Israel, and there an element of contingency is introduced with the word, 'should', for not all (within the nations) will receive Him or bow the knee and shall bear the consequences for not doing so I believe.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

You may choose any translation you wish for your level of comfort
That is why new translations are made, [Etymology and comfort level of the reader]
that is each individual choice.
I studied over 40 years ago for over a year, concerning Bible versions and why, plus in my spare time over a 100 hours concerning the NIV 1977. Early copy rights RSV, CopyRight 1967, 1969 “NSRB” , early copyright ASV. Completely have worn multiple copies of each out. I know what has been added and subtracted from each version and why.
I studied the members the committees and what department their speciality in “Theology, Christology, and Divinity” and their school of learning. Even the committee of The “Authorize Version” of 1611!.
The “American Standard Version” as far as I am concerned is The “Nobel Peace Prize” of “The Original Copied Manuscript “ hard reading because it tries to stay true to The “Original Text” of The Very Word of GOD! That is why it is so hard to read and flow. But if you want to stay closer to the Original Text that is where “You Have To Go” in The English Language! And soon it will be heavy polluted with replacement words to suit The “Feminine Mold” the same route as all others have taken.! To satisfy The Masses!
But GOD, has enough salvation even among The polluted parts to save “Millions” without skipping a beat! For that is his goal!

I would not dare buy or study a post 1984 Bible of any kind of Translation . Out side of just maybe a “New American Standard Bible” Excellent Study bible with no “Bias”, and I know why I studied the The King James , Oxford edition “NSRB”, copyright 1967,I know why I read the copyright pre 1984 “NIV” a excellent Study Bible, I know why I read the Harper RSV Study bible pre 1977 copyright. I know why I would pick up The ASV and turn its pages to the desired text!
When I pick one up I know why I chose that version out of my library.
I know why I choose a certain translated text, and I never Quote a text of Scripture that is not in the “Original Copied Manuscript” I don’t do foot notes to tell why it has been added or missing or a problem text.
My advice read what you are comfortable with, and never give advice to what another should read, “Let GOD determine that” He is able to get His Word out even if by any means He please
I have hard studied the text for over 40 years, and it is in me. I got it out of The Book and 100’s of prayers to GOD our FATHER to write every word I have read at that hour to write it on The Tables of My Heart with many tears every time I pick the book up, some times the same prayer 3-5 times a day maybe more for many years! lORD write The Words I will read in Your Book and all related words I will read concerning the words that Is recorded in your book, on the table of my heart.
He answered those prayers, before I even knew it that He Had.
I just kept praying a way of life in that matter!

I don’t have it, it is Him, is the best way it can be explained, and that is where I leave it, most of the time I am listening to myself and it amazes me, the things i speak or write and the scriptures that comes on my mind
“Homiletically arrange”
It can’t be me, I ain’t that bright. I am listening too,

sometimes my ghetto type language get in my way. Referring to myself!
That was bred by environment, of a Christian origin, and not my home. A “vernacular”.

 

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@PloughBoy said:-
LOL, “should bow” Or “Going to BOW”?
“should confess” are “going to confess”?

NASB
10so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEEWILL BOW, of those who are inheaven and on earth and underthe earth, 11and that everytongue will confess that JesusChrist is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Hello @PloughBoy,

I believe the KJV and it's use of the word 'should' is correct in Philippians 2:10-11, for not all will: there will be those who will not bow the knee, and will be judged accordingly.

' Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,
That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength:
even to him shall men come;
and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.'
(Isa 45:22-25)

* Here in Isaiah, all the seed of Israel shall be justified and shall glory, and every knee shall bow and tongue swear, but in Philippians the nations are in mind and not Israel, and there an element of contingency is introduced with the word, 'should', for not all (within the nations) will receive Him or bow the knee and shall bear the consequences for not doing so I believe.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

'That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
of things in heaven,
and things in earth,
and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess
that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.'
(Php 2:10-11)

Hello there,

Thank you for your response reply#126.

In regard to Philippians 2:10-11, and the use of the word 'should' (KJV) instead of 'will' ( NASB - in reply#124 ). The Greek Interlinear Bible uses the words, 'should-be-bowing' and 'should-be-out-avowing'. [ https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/phi2.pdf ]

Interesting
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Andyindauk]

Russia has invaded Ukraine on many fronts. Civilians are dying. This has the potential to affect us all. We have moved beyond the cold war, This cannot be allowed to succeed.

Please guys, let's bring this thread back to topic.

What's going on isn't end times. In previous posts I've called Putin a prototype 'Anti-Christ', he's not the anti-Christ, he's just another tin pot dictator attampting to mimic the anti-Christ in the same mould as Hitler, Hirohito and Stalin. The key difference between that lot and the Anti-Christ is that they temporarily deceived their populations and a few other countries besides, that their cause was right. The Anti-Christ will deceive 98% of the world's population, not only to accept his rule but to worship him.

Putin has few admirers outside of Russia and Belarus, but there's a couple more inside TJ which leaves me gobsmacked and remiinds me that when the Anti-Christ comes he'll deceive even parts of the church to follow and worship him. What Putin's doing is stupid and wicked. Stupid because he'll ultimately fail, he does not have the resources to quel the 40 million strong rebellious population of Ukraine, the history of Afghanistan and Brezhnev will repeat iteself. He's too stupid to see that his wicked tactic of blowing a country to smithereens and killing as many of the population as possible will not win over hearts or minds. Ukraine will not just be a thorn in his side, more of a spear that will ultimately drain him.

Meanwhile, our brothers and sisters along with the rest of the population suffers death and bereavement, wounding, cold and starvation on an unimaginable scale. So if Jesus's commandment in John 15:12 means anything to you, you'll grieve and pray for your poor, dear brothers and sisters in Christ and if you want to prove to God and yourself that you are a son / daughter read James 2:14-17 and hopefully that'll prompt you to both pray and give to our dear, wionderful brothers and sisters through organizaions like -

www.barnabasfund.org/gb/latest-needs/help/ukrainian-christians-in-their-hour-of-need/

May God reward and bless you.

 

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Please guys, let's bring this thread back to topic.

What's going on isn't end times. In previous posts I've called Putin a prototype 'Anti-Christ', he's not the anti-Christ, he's just another tin pot dictator attempting to mimic the anti-Christ in the same mould as Hitler, Hirohito and Stalin. The key difference between that lot and the Anti-Christ is that they temporarily deceived their populations and a few other countries besides, that their cause was right. The Anti-Christ will deceive 98% of the world's population, not only to accept his rule but to worship him.

Putin has few admirers outside of Russia and Belarus, but there's a couple more inside TJ which leaves me gobsmacked and reminds me that when the Anti-Christ comes he'll deceive even parts of the church to follow and worship him. What Putin's doing is stupid and wicked. Stupid because he'll ultimately fail, he does not have the resources to quell the 40 million strong rebellious population of Ukraine, the history of Afghanistan and Brezhnev will repeat itself. He's too stupid to see that his wicked tactic of blowing a country to smithereens and killing as many of the population as possible will not win over hearts or minds. Ukraine will not just be a thorn in his side, more of a spear that will ultimately drain him.

Meanwhile, our brothers and sisters along with the rest of the population suffers death and bereavement, wounding, cold and starvation on an unimaginable scale. So if Jesus's commandment in John 15:12 means anything to you, you'll grieve and pray for your poor, dear brothers and sisters in Christ and if you want to prove to God and yourself that you are a son / daughter read James 2:14-17 and hopefully that'll prompt you to both pray and give to our dear, wonderful brothers and sisters through organizations like -

www.barnabasfund.org/gb/latest-needs/help/ukrainian-christians-in-their-hour-of-need/

May God reward and bless you.

Yes, @Andyindauk,

Thank you for bringing us back to topic. Please forgive the diversion.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

Please guys, let's bring this thread back to topic.

What's going on isn't end times. In previous posts I've called Putin a prototype 'Anti-Christ', he's not the anti-Christ, he's just another tin pot dictator attampting to mimic the anti-Christ in the same mould as Hitler, Hirohito and Stalin. The key difference between that lot and the Anti-Christ is that they temporarily deceived their populations and a few other countries besides, that their cause was right. The Anti-Christ will deceive 98% of the world's population, not only to accept his rule but to worship him.

Putin has few admirers outside of Russia and Belarus, but there's a couple more inside TJ which leaves me gobsmacked and remiinds me that when the Anti-Christ comes he'll deceive even parts of the church to follow and worship him. What Putin's doing is stupid and wicked. Stupid because he'll ultimately fail, he does not have the resources to quel the 40 million strong rebellious population of Ukraine, the history of Afghanistan and Brezhnev will repeat iteself. He's too stupid to see that his wicked tactic of blowing a country to smithereens and killing as many of the population as possible will not win over hearts or minds. Ukraine will not just be a thorn in his side, more of a spear that will ultimately drain him.

Meanwhile, our brothers and sisters along with the rest of the population suffers death and bereavement, wounding, cold and starvation on an unimaginable scale. So if Jesus's commandment in John 15:12 means anything to you, you'll grieve and pray for your poor, dear brothers and sisters in Christ and if you want to prove to God and yourself that you are a son / daughter read James 2:14-17 and hopefully that'll prompt you to both pray and give to our dear, wionderful brothers and sisters through organizaions like -

www.barnabasfund.org/gb/latest-needs/help/ukrainian-christians-in-their-hour-of-need/

May God reward and bless you.

Ok, I let’s get back on track “The Title Thread”. Then you make this statement:
“What's going on isn't end times “
sorry I am old “Theological” school. My train jump track again. Of Course end times is not here and ends times is here.
Now I cannot get beyond what you mean!
Then I came to a conclusion, I do not want to know what he means by “the term” “end times”! It cannot only be some of that “needle in a hay stack”stuff liken to the host of The Tim La-Hays pack!

So I move on, after I regroup my stances so I could approach The Title Thread again with no more delay. Then I was hit. With all of These attributes about “President Putin”.

I was amazed how long “Andyindauk” knew “Putin”. And such a personal relationship he had with The President of Russia.
And know of President Putin relation he has with “Christ”. Or not with Christ. And that is understandable for most “Christians” refers to me as a devil too, and a enemy of Christ and GOD. And a Anti- Christ too. I said most Christians. Heck, most jews then and now called Jesus a devil and anti-GOD.
No big deal, the day will arrive when The Manifestation of The Sons of GOD will be revealed to “ALL” creation the dead and alive they will be revealed too!
And the question have not arrived or a approach, if President “Volodymyr Zelensky” is or was a “Demagogue”.
If President “Putin” is trying to portray an “anti-Christ” then is “Zelensky” is acting as if he is a “portrait” of Christ, a savior of The “Ukrainian People”!

Or is not our FATHER who Is The True GOD, “SOVEREIGN”!

For some of us Know He is Still Sitting on The Right hand of The FATHER, until He makes all of His enemies, Jesus FootStool”

 

[PloughBoy]

JOHN 17, JESUS the CHRIST, prayed:

13“I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my JOY within them. 14I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that “YOU PROTECT” them from the evil one.16They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17Sanctify them by the truth; your WORD IS TRUTH. 18As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
20“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:

FOR GOD is still control and death is not death unless The SOVEREIGN gives it permission or a “Command”. BOMBS cannot drop unless GOD who Is “SOVEREIGN” cannot fall unless GOD tells them to fall! Missiles cannot Fly unless GOD has “Given The Permission For them to FLY!
and to remind many who have lost their way! For to Remember “The RED Sea” and “Noah’s Ark”!

 

[Curtis]

Seven Facts About Human Governments:

1. They were instituted by God (Gen 9:1-7; Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).

2. Their purpose was to execute criminals and enforce law and order among people (Rom_13:1-6; 1Pe_2:13-17; Gen 9:6; Isa 11:4-9; Isa 65:20; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

3. It is the duty of Christians and others to help establish and support human government for the preservation of society and promotion of the highest good of man (Rom 13:1; 1Pe 2:13-17).

4. Governments were instituted to govern by force and to punish, not only local and individual criminals, but also universal and national criminals. This includes execution of war to put down criminal nations as well as criminal individuals (Rom 13:1-5; 1Pe 2:13-17; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

5. Christians are not to leave popular government up to the ungodly. To neglect good government is to neglect the salvation of souls. Promotion of public and private good is one of the greatest means of saving souls (Rom 13:1-6; 1Ti 1:8-10). Christians should vote and enter public life to promote good government so that the gospel will not be hindered and stamped out. Both reason and experience, as well as the Bible make this obligatory upon all. Since government is necessary for the best good of all, it is the duty of every Christian to help bring about the best government to secure this end.

6. Human governments, therefore, are not founded upon the arbitrary will of God, but upon the needs of humanity in securing their highest good. If in a small family, law and penalties are needed, how much more are they needed in communities, states, and nations. If government needs reforming, then let the Christians bring about such reforms. If they require nothing contrary to God, moral obligation, and the conscience, and if they meet the needs of those governed, they should be perpetuated (Rom 13:1-6).

7. Upon the grounds of the best public interest, it becomes the duty of human governments to use all necessary means to attain this end. It is absurd to believe that rulers have the right to govern and not the right to use the necessary means to carry on good government. Such error or belief causes many Christians to object to the right of capital punishment, the right to deal with mobs, to suppress rebellions, and to make wars on criminal nations. When a person sells himself to destroy the best good of others, it becomes necessary to take him from the society he seeks to destroy. In such cases it becomes necessary to deal with individuals, and nations to enforce law and order for the best good of all. It must be both the right and the duty of government and all its subjects to use every necessary and possible means to suppress rebellion and enforce respect for law and order. Rulers are God’s ministers to execute God’s wrath upon the ungodly and preserve moral law and government for the good of all (Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).

 

[PloughBoy]

JOHN 17, JESUS the CHRIST, prayed:

13“I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my JOY within them. 14I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that “YOU PROTECT” them from the evil one.16They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17Sanctify them by the truth; your WORD IS TRUTH. 18As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
20“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:

FOR GOD is still control and death is not death unless The SOVEREIGN gives it permission or a “Command”. BOMBS cannot drop unless GOD who Is “SOVEREIGN” cannot fall unless GOD tells them to fall! Missiles cannot Fly unless GOD has “Given The Permission For them to FLY!
and to remind many who have lost their way! For to Remember “The RED Sea” and “Noah’s Ark”!

Matthew 22
New American Standard Bible
‘THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD, “SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I PUT YOUR ENEMIES UNDER YOUR FEET”’?

New American Standard Bible
Hebrews 1:23

But to which of the angels has He ever said, “SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET”?

GOD The FATHER is always and always will be in Control,,, For HE Is “SOVEREIGN “!

and there are No “BUTS” about it.

 

[PloughBoy]

Seven Facts About Human Governments:

1. They were instituted by God (Gen 9:1-7; Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).

2. Their purpose was to execute criminals and enforce law and order among people (Rom_13:1-6; 1Pe_2:13-17; Gen 9:6; Isa 11:4-9; Isa 65:20; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

3. It is the duty of Christians and others to help establish and support human government for the preservation of society and promotion of the highest good of man (Rom 13:1; 1Pe 2:13-17).

4. Governments were instituted to govern by force and to punish, not only local and individual criminals, but also universal and national criminals. This includes execution of war to put down criminal nations as well as criminal individuals (Rom 13:1-5; 1Pe 2:13-17; Dan 2:21; Dan 4:17-25; Dan 5:21).

5. Christians are not to leave popular government up to the ungodly. To neglect good government is to neglect the salvation of souls. Promotion of public and private good is one of the greatest means of saving souls (Rom 13:1-6; 1Ti 1:8-10). Christians should vote and enter public life to promote good government so that the gospel will not be hindered and stamped out. Both reason and experience, as well as the Bible make this obligatory upon all. Since government is necessary for the best good of all, it is the duty of every Christian to help bring about the best government to secure this end.

6. Human governments, therefore, are not founded upon the arbitrary will of God, but upon the needs of humanity in securing their highest good. If in a small family, law and penalties are needed, how much more are they needed in communities, states, and nations. If government needs reforming, then let the Christians bring about such reforms. If they require nothing contrary to God, moral obligation, and the conscience, and if they meet the needs of those governed, they should be perpetuated (Rom 13:1-6).

7. Upon the grounds of the best public interest, it becomes the duty of human governments to use all necessary means to attain this end. It is absurd to believe that rulers have the right to govern and not the right to use the necessary means to carry on good government. Such error or belief causes many Christians to object to the right of capital punishment, the right to deal with mobs, to suppress rebellions, and to make wars on criminal nations. When a person sells himself to destroy the best good of others, it becomes necessary to take him from the society he seeks to destroy. In such cases it becomes necessary to deal with individuals, and nations to enforce law and order for the best good of all. It must be both the right and the duty of government and all its subjects to use every necessary and possible means to suppress rebellion and enforce respect for law and order. Rulers are God’s ministers to execute God’s wrath upon the ungodly and preserve moral law and government for the good of all (Rom 13:1-6; 1Pe 2:13-17).

Laws was created to fail, the governments were created to fall, Man was Created to fail in the field of Rebellion before time, space or future ever existed all creation was made was subjected to vanity. And the purpose will be “Manifested in The Unveiling of “The Manifestation of The Sons of The Living GOD”!

 

[joestue]

Man was Created to fail in the field of Rebellion before time, space or future ever existed

Do you believe God intended man to sin

 

[PloughBoy]

Do you believe God intended man to sin

Let me say one thing.
And I do not hope I have to repeated to you, so you know for your information ok.
“I have no opinion about GOD, and His Only Begotten SON, nor a opinion about The Holy Spirit of “GOD ALMIGHTY”
But I Know that “GOD” my FATHER and a FATHER to Few but Not to many is “SOVEREIGN “ and that is sufficient and no creature can add anything to that in describing HIM It cannot be done by a “finite mind”.
Now what I have said, every time you see The Avatar name “PloughBoy” and every time you read The English Translation Text you will see why it was one of the reason it written!

Shalom

 

[PloughBoy]

 

[Waggles]

What's going on isn't end times. In previous posts I've called Putin a prototype 'Anti-Christ', he's not the anti-Christ, he's just another tin pot dictator attempting to mimic the anti-Christ in the same mould as Hitler, Hirohito and Stalin. The key difference between that lot and the Anti-Christ is that they temporarily deceived their populations and a few other countries besides, that their cause was right.

That is just as applicable morally and politically against U.S. Presidents from Bush to Clinton to Bush to Obama to Biden.
If anybody goes around bombing the world and leaving a great deal of pain and suffering upon their victims it is these guys.
There are no good guys and bad guys. All are wicked and un-Godly.
As for the U.S. it has become as Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

[PloughBoy]

 

[Waggles]

but there's a couple more inside TJ which leaves me gobsmacked and reminds me that when the Anti-Christ comes he'll deceive even parts of the church to follow and worship him.

Nonsense.
Just because people post videos and opinions concerning some independent observations on the history of Ukraine and NATO does not make them Putin puppets.
That is the usual name calling you get from those who want propaganda to push out all other narratives - especially more truthful insights about the role NATO has played in all of this.
Putin is no more the anti-Christ than dementia Biden is or the mandate breaking Johnson is or the woke von der Leyen is.
The anti-Christ is spiritual and resides in a 13 acre property in Rome.

It is not a matter of taking sides - Putin is right to invade or Zelensky is the innocent victim of aggression - the whole world is evil in all that it does, especially politics and war.
Many of the videos posted give a more detailed insight of the history and the machinations of both the collective West and Russia and India and China in this conflict - AND WHERE IT MIGHT END UP.
As Spirit-filled Christians we already know where this takes the whole world >>> Jerusalem and Armageddon.
Jesus openly informs us all that unless he returns to put a stop to this nobody will be left alive upon the Earth.