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Tensions rise across Europe as countries introduce Covid measures and compulsory vaccines - BBC News

People underestimate how much power certain people have over the media. Especially the mainstream media. ( Fox, CNN, ABCnews, MSNBC, CBS, and BBC )
You find stories and links from time to time, but they are deleted almost within minutes. I have over dozen ( link deleted ) articles on my facebook.
OAN and western journal are pretty reputable. In fact I never see the mainstream media dispute them.
But more than articles on the internet, I go with local ear to ear news.

192 doctors/nursing staff have refused to take the jab here at our biggest hospital.
Hundreds more have lost their jobs due to refusing the vaccine in Portland and Seattle. My personal doctor hasn't taken it and recommends against it.
A dozen nurses at my church recommend against it. 3 Doctors I know personally (not my doctor ) recommend against it.

Of course none of this is on mainstream news.
 
Another thing to keep in mind is a 99.8% survival rate is without treatment nobody seems to be talking about treatment yet if you search the doctors that are being silenced they're having a very good success with several different treatments which I would imagine would increase the odds of survival what are the odds survival with the vaccine I do have to wonder
The source you quoted doesn't back up your 99.8% claim.

There are over 5m deaths from covid worldwide. How many people have died from any of the covid vaccines?
 
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The source you quoted doesn't back up your 99.8% claim.

There are over 5m deaths from covid worldwide. How many people have died from any of the covid vaccines?
I am going to be very blunt here and make some comments. You seem to be immeresed in the world,any time a government tells you what to put in your body, to the point of force, run in the other direction. You have two choices to make, turn to God himself and rely on him, or rely on some manmade vaccine with unknown side affects. This mandated vaccine is a portent of things to come. Next will be the vaccine passport that all must carry, then a chip inserted into your right hand or forehead. I make no apology for getting awfully tired of those who proclaim they are christians and yet still love the world. God warns you to get out of her, and yet here the majority of so called christians are following governemnt rules and regulations. These governments were not placed here by God, so why do you obey them? Are they your God? Consider that.
 
I am going to be very blunt here and make some comments. You seem to be immeresed in the world,any time a government tells you what to put in your body, to the point of force, run in the other direction. You have two choices to make, turn to God himself and rely on him, or rely on some manmade vaccine with unknown side affects. This mandated vaccine is a portent of things to come. Next will be the vaccine passport that all must carry, then a chip inserted into your right hand or forehead. I make no apology for getting awfully tired of those who proclaim they are christians and yet still love the world. God warns you to get out of her, and yet here the majority of so called christians are following governemnt rules and regulations. These governments were not placed here by God, so why do you obey them? Are they your God? Consider that.
No covid vaccine is mandated where I am. People who have taken the jab have done so voluntarily because they recognise it's the best protection against the disease.

There is no contradiction in trusting God and being vaccinated.
 
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No covid vaccine is mandated where I am. People who have taken the jab have done so voluntarily because they recognise it's the best protection against the disease.

There is no contradiction in trusting God and being vaccinated.
Thats okay, you cannot see it. I understand now.
 
No covid vaccine is mandated where I am. People who have taken the jab have done so voluntarily because they recognise it's the best protection against the disease.

There is no contradiction in trusting God and being vaccinated.
I respect your right to take something you believe will protect you, I hope you respect others who disagree with you
 
I just can not help wonder why people would inject something into there bodies when the do not know the long term effect,. And when there is a chance it could have a adverse effect,,
 
I just can not help wonder why people would inject something into there bodies when the do not know the long term effect,. And when there is a chance it could have a adverse effect,,
Because it has been proven to have a positive effect. Transmission rates, hospitalization rates and death rates are far lower for people who are fully vaccinated.
 
I just can not help wonder why people would inject something into there bodies when the do not know the long term effect,. And when there is a chance it could have a adverse effect,,
and the fact that almost every government around the world forces people to inject it into themselves. And here in Australia premier (governor to you) despises the unvaccinated, we have seen his reponse to them on national television many times. Satan has an agenda and it includes this vaccine.
 
I'm surprised how many responses come up when I type in to Google what is the survival rate when you get covid pretty much all the articles agree that is extremely high here's another one stating it's between 97 and 99%Coronavirus Recovery.
 
Because it has been proven to have a positive effect. Transmission rates, hospitalization rates and death rates are far lower for people who are fully vaccinated.
Yet brother you have no evidence of long-term effects that is what really concerns a lot of people.. do you think people should be forced to take the vaccination??
 
I'm surprised how many responses come up when I type in to Google what is the survival rate when you get covid pretty much all the articles agree that is extremely high here's another one stating it's between 97 and 99%Coronavirus Recovery.
It actually says:

"Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%."
 
Yet brother you have no evidence of long-term effects that is what really concerns a lot of people.. do you think people should be forced to take the vaccination??
I do know the long term effects of death however.

There are no good scientific grounds to anticipate long term negative effects.

People who are not vaccinated are around eight times more likely to die of covid. The balance of risk is very clearly in favour of taking a vaccine.
 
I do know the long term effects of death however.

There are no good scientific grounds to anticipate long term negative effects.

People who are not vaccinated are around eight times more likely to die of covid. The balance of risk is very clearly in favour of taking a vaccine.
I am very curious to know if you think that everybody should be mandated to take this vaccine
 
I am very curious to know if you think that everybody should be mandated to take this vaccine
That's a matter of public policy. I do wish everybody would take a vaccine; I have big doubts that mandates are a good way to go about it.

I'm just concerned here that the facts we talk about are as accurate as possible.

After all, good political, moral and medical decisions depend on accurate data.
 
That's a matter of public policy. I do wish everybody would take a vaccine; I have big doubts that mandates are a good way to go about it.

I'm just concerned here that the facts we talk about are as accurate as possible.

After all, good political, moral and medical decisions depend on accurate data.

I appreciate your reply, but the risk for taking the vaccine far out weight the risk of getting covid for me. And it should be a individual choice. If people want to risk there health for a vaccine they should be given the information needed to make a informed choice. But this is not happening, there is case after case of the adverse effects this vaccine is causing people who were once healthy and now are not.

If the media would report on the deaths, and irregular heart beats, and other health issues the vaccine is causing, I doubt anyone would want this vaccine. How ever small the percentage is, we should be given all the facts. And Big pharm should be held accountable, but they are not, they get a free pass.

Here is yet another video saying yes the survival rate is very high
 
EITHER TAKE THE SHOT, or the government is not going to pay you. And You corporations better read the fine print and get in line.
It is getting real, before you know it the Law will be passed. If you do not get the shot you ain't going eat. And you cannot have nothing to say about it.:eyes:

 
part 2>>>>.....Lankford votes to Block Biden's VAccine Mandates on Private Businesses


 
They must be taking a page out of the book of China.

How many people you know of or family members have died or got sick from from the shot.

1. one family member as soon he got the shot, in a few days, he could not walk now dead. and no compensation. sign on the doted line. young man.
 
it used to be in times past that your free will or your physical possessions you had were a threat to your neighbor or your town or nation.

around the time of Jesus, there was a transition period where ideas became dangerous,, but it was mostly possession = 9/10ths of the law.

at some point this will change and the threat is your physical body.. and your ideas... and your land and possessions.

you had best have more faith than i do before you go reproduce and become liable for yet another soul to be born on this planet, because you don't have allodial title to your land, or the means of your production to produce your fruit. the only thing you have is your silence being consent of every invisible contract you signed by partaking in society. don't be a fool and presume God is with you, when you pursued every opportunity the world gave you to get ahead of your neighbor and get an above average income so you could have above average children. they just might have to die before God opens your eyes and you see that He didn't give them to you. you got them by your own flesh.

loudmouths who don't understand how vaccines work may presume they have the authority to refuse it... guess what.. you may have authority to refuse it.. but your social security number doesn't. and your grandparents likely warned your parents something was wrong.. 100 years ago. but they got one and so did you. deal with it.

accept that your "Free" healthcare can be taken away if you don't take the shot. you didn' earn it, didn't pay for it, and the taxes you've paid were theft and fraud sold to your parents who voted those laws into place both by their complacency and their silence, and they burdened you with them.

undoing all of these things takes about a generation or so. its slow, painful, and no, rebellion and starting over by depriving those who's life decisons were made presuming they would get their children's tax dollars, from their future income, isn't how God would do it.--unless he can call you out of the desert and go live on a deserted unclaimed island.

every square inch of the planet is owned by someone and no, God can't call you out of Ur any more to live in a desert. the desert is paved and is owned by someone who has to give it to you.. who got it from someone else who sold it to you because they wanted to make a profit off of it.
 
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