Tensions rise across Europe as countries introduce Covid measures and compulsory vaccines - BBC News

[Godbehonored]

Im not mocking the book of Luke, I'm highlighting your flimsy logic.

My logic is clear as day. Oil and wine are not manmade chemicals, the vaccine is. If I was the Samaritan using the oil and wine I would have thanked God for them, so there is no idolatry in using what God had given. But the vaccines are manmade, using them takes away faith in God’s healing through Jesus Christ. Did the organisations that promote the vaccine give glory to God? No, they took the glory of God upon themselves as the saviors of the pestilence and therefore using their vaccines brings people close to idolatry.

Your faith is not in Jesus but in the godless elites and what their solutions are. Wake up.

 

[Godbehonored]

What you say here is untrue. A person who has not been vaccinated is eight times more likely to die of covid. Statements like yours are responsible for thousands of deaths.

Seriously? It is reported last year in the news that people have died AFTER taking the vaccines, I did not make those statements. Stop the false accusations because you are accountable before God for what you say.

 

[Godbehonored]

It is clear to me from the responses on here that those who accepted and took the vaccine has their faith in God diminished, that’s a serious side effect.

I watched a video somewhere that the vaccine actually tampers with a gene that is responsible for our acceptance of Jesus’ faith. Those who have the Spirit of God can see for yourselves how people changed in their faith responses after taking the vaccine.

Why is the mark of the beast so detrimental that the Gospels say those who take it cannot even be saved anymore? Maybe it’s because the mark of the beast is like the vaccine, it alters the human gene to the point that the one who has the mark can no longer respond to the prompting of the Holy Spirit and thus these marked individuals will never repent and believe in Jesus. Wake up!

 

[Hekuran]

Seriously? It is reported last year in the news that people have died AFTER taking the vaccines, I did not make those statements. Stop the false accusations because you are accountable before God for what you say.

You too are accountable for what you say and you have said I am guilty of idolatry.

Some have died even though with a vaccine, yes. But far fewer than those who are unvaccinated - eight times fewer.

 

[Godbehonored]

You too are accountable for what you say and you have said I am guilty of idolatry.

Some have died even though with a vaccine, yes. But far fewer than those who are unvaccinated - eight times fewer.

And you are not guilty of idolatry? I have not even heard you mention Jesus or answered my questions about your faith in Jesus over the past few posts. You don’t have to answer me, just ask yourself: Do you have faith that Jesus can protect you from this COVID pandemic without the vaccine? If your answer is no, you are already guilty.

 

[Hekuran]

It is clear to me from the responses on here that those who accepted and took the vaccine has their faith in God diminished, that’s a serious side effect.

I watched a video somewhere that the vaccine actually tampers with a gene that is responsible for our acceptance of Jesus’ faith. Those who have the Spirit of God can see for yourselves how people changed in their faith responses after taking the vaccine.

Why is the mark of the beast so detrimental that the Gospels say those who take it cannot even be saved anymore? Maybe it’s because the mark of the beast is like the vaccine, it alters the human gene to the point that the one who has the mark can no longer respond to the prompting of the Holy Spirit and thus these marked individuals will never repent and believe in Jesus. Wake up!

That's plain ridiculous. You think the capacity to follow Jesus is genetic?

I trusted in Jesus before being vaccinated and since being vaccinated. It's a medical decision, not an issue of trust in God.

 

[Godbehonored]

You too are accountable for what you say and you have said I am guilty of idolatry.

Some have died even though with a vaccine, yes. But far fewer than those who are unvaccinated - eight times fewer.

And these people did not die from the COVID, they died from taking the vaccine without ever contracting the disease. Yet you support it.

 

[Hekuran]

And these people did not die from the COVID, they died from taking the vaccine without ever contracting the disease. Yet you support it.

Show me the data.

What proportion of the unvaccinated population has died of covid?

What proportion of the vaccinated population has died of covid?

What proportion of the vaccinated population has died as a result of the vaccine?

 

[Godbehonored]

That's plain ridiculous. You think the capacity to follow Jesus is genetic?

I trusted in Jesus before being vaccinated and since being vaccinated. It's a medical decision, not an issue of trust in God.

If your gene is altered and you are no longer the human God created you as, it will definitely affect how you respond to God’s salvation through Jesus. The Gospels are clear that people can come to a point where they can no longer repent and have a seared conscience, it definitely involves both spiritual and genetic changes for a human to come to that hopeless state.

 

[Godbehonored]

Show me the data.

What proportion of the unvaccinated population has died of covid?

What proportion of the vaccinated population has died of covid?

What proportion of the vaccinated population has died as a result of the vaccine?

Since the vaccine even causes one person to die without even contracting COVID, it is downright evil and a true Christian cannot support it in good conscience. Yet here you are asking me for statistics so as to make it seem like not taking the vaccine is a greater evil than the vaccine taking innocent lives on its own. Its ok for innocent lives to die from just taking the vaccine but it’s not ok for people to not take the vaccine to avoid that risk. Wow, just how much more twisted can things be in this godless age?

Your statements of self defence means nothing to me. I have seen exactly what I needed to see. God knows the hearts and will judge accordingly.

 

[Hekuran]

Since the vaccine even causes one person to die without even contracting COVID, it is downright evil and a true Christian cannot support it in good conscience. Yet here you are asking me for statistics so as to make it seem like not taking the vaccine is a greater evil than the vaccine taking innocent lives on its own. Wow.

Your statements of self defence means nothing to me. I have seen exactly what I needed to see. God knows the hearts and will judge accordingly.

I'm asking you for data to back up your claims. Other people than me will read this thread and will want to know if there is substance to what you say.

You have now gone from claiming I am an idolater to saying I am sub-human.

 

[Godbehonored]

I'm asking you for data to back up your claims. Other people than me will read this thread and will want to know if there is substance to what you say.

You have now gone from claiming I am an idolater to saying I am sub-human.

I am only here to warn as many who still has ears to hear that the vaccine is evil, not to prove im right. The vaccine is evil for the plain reason that it has caused deaths just by taking it, independent of contracting COVID. I don’t need to see statistics to prove this point, as long as this vaccine is killing ONE innocent life who didn’t even contract COVID, it is evil. Enough said.

Anyone who claims to be Christian and yet don’t think that people dying from taking the vaccine is evidence of its evil origins is deceived at best, false Christian at worst.

 

[Hekuran]

To prove its evil you'll need to give evidence for how many deaths the vaccine has caused and how many deaths it has prevented.

 

[Godbehonored]

To prove its evil you'll need to give evidence for how many deaths the vaccine has caused and how many deaths it has prevented.

Evidence for how many deaths? So one death via vaccination is not enough to prove that the vaccine is evil? (and there were more than one death from vaccination in true fact) Is one single innocent life killed by a vaccine that worthless in your eyes?

I wonder if this disturbs anyone else that a professing Christian is saying we need statistics to prove an evil tool is actually evil because not enough deaths are recorded as evidence. I certainly am troubled.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" (Isa. 5:20.)

 

[Hekuran]

Many good things -- houses, cars, electricity, fishing boats, staircases, water wells etc -- have caused deaths. Do you agree that these are good things or would you call them evil too?

Yes, some people have had severe side affects from some of the vaccines and it has probably been fatal in some cases. But the vaccination programmes worldwide have prevented hundreds of thousands of unnecceary deaths. So -- despite the small risk of severe side affects -- they are a overall beneficial. If you looked at the statistics you would be able to see this clearly.

Both my parents have covid now. They are old enough to be in a high-risk category. But they are up-to-date with the vaccination programme and their symptoms have been mild - fatigue, bad cough for a few days. Without a vaccine I would be extremely worried for them both. Some of my colleagues would almost certainly have died without a vaccine

The vaccine that is linked with myocaritis has been found to have side affects mainly for people under the age of 40, and most vaccination programmes have changed to take this into account.

 

[Gregoryp]

Evidence for how many deaths? So one death via vaccination is not enough to prove that the vaccine is evil? (and there were more than one death from vaccination in true fact) Is one single innocent life killed by a vaccine that worthless in your eyes?

I wonder if this disturbs anyone else that a professing Christian is saying we need statistics to prove an evil tool is actually evil because not enough deaths are recorded as evidence. I certainly am troubled.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" (Isa. 5:20.)

Unfortunately these people are so deceived by the world they cannot see what is really happening.

 

[Gregoryp]

Unfortunately these people are so deceived by the world they cannot see what is really happening.

 

[Gregoryp]

Unfortunately these people are so deceived by the world they cannot see what is really happening.

 

[Godbehonored]

Many good things -- houses, cars, electricity, fishing boats, staircases, water wells etc -- have caused deaths. Do you agree that these are good things or would you call them evil too?

First, I won’t call houses, cars etc good, they are neutral tools that can be used for good or evil by those who have them. Second, those things you mentioned, people at least have control over HOW they can use them so as to avoid fatal accidents. This is NOT the case with this COVID vaccine because they are not developed and directly controlled by people who are given the doses. The general public has NO control over the contents of the vaccine and none of them who used the vaccine can prevent fatal consequences on their own.

But the vaccination programmes worldwide have prevented hundreds of thousands of unnecceary deaths. So -- despite the small risk of severe side affects -- they are a overall beneficial. If you looked at the statistics you would be able to see this clearly.

The vaccines have prevented nothing in true fact or else there wouldn’t be new strains of COVID (omicron now) and the need for MULTIPLE doses. Small risk of side effects? Even professionals wouldn’t agree with you and I have shared one of their testimony on this very News Stand forum. Side effects can take decades to actually manifest, just because you don’t see them all on the scenes now doesn’t mean they are minimal.

Both my parents have covid now. They are old enough to be in a high-risk category. But they are up-to-date with the vaccination programme and their symptoms have been mild - fatigue, bad cough for a few days. Without a vaccine I would be extremely worried for them both. Some of my colleagues would almost certainly have died without a vaccine

The vaccine that is linked with myocaritis has been found to have side affects mainly for people under the age of 40, and most vaccination programmes have changed to take this into account.

According to the testimony of Dr Vanessa S. Kruger, not all batches of the vaccines are equally dangerous. Your parents and colleagues are simply fortunate that they did not get the fatal doses. Even so, how do you know there will not be side effects manifesting decades later? You trust in men too much, and the Bible warned against that.

 

[Hekuran]

First, I won’t call houses, cars etc good, they are neutral tools that can be used for good or evil by those who have them. Second, those things you mentioned, people at least have control over HOW they can use them so as to avoid fatal accidents. This is NOT the case with this COVID vaccine because they are not developed and directly controlled by people who are given the doses. The general public has NO control over the contents of the vaccine and none of them who used the vaccine can prevent fatal consequences on their own.



The vaccines have prevented nothing in true fact or else there wouldn’t be new strains of COVID (omicron now) and the need for MULTIPLE doses. Small risk of side effects? Even professionals wouldn’t agree with you and I have shared one of their testimony on this very News Stand forum. Side effects can take decades to actually manifest, just because you don’t see them all on the scenes now doesn’t mean they are minimal.



According to the testimony of Dr Vanessa S. Kruger, not all batches of the vaccines are equally dangerous. Your parents and colleagues are simply fortunate that they did not get the fatal doses. Even so, how do you know there will not be side effects manifesting decades later? You trust in men too much, and the Bible warned against that.

Show me the data. How many unnecessary deaths are any of the vaccine responsible for. How many deaths prevented?