The Church and its place in the Tribulation

[JerryfromMass]

I am going to peace together a few things here that relate to the thread and a few posts, so this post is not addressed to anyone specifically, but to all, as we discuss this together.

I believe the Jews are a big part of the picture, we agree I am sure.

I also believe the the 'latter days' of the end time commenced with something that should make the whole world stand up and take note.

I believe the key that opened the door to these latter days was on, 14 May 1948, when Israel became a nation again. It was prophesied, it was fulfilled. It was, I believe, the time when the 'latter days' was conceived. Whey do I say conceived? Because Jesus told us of the things that would happen, he also said 'when you see...' you will know they are the birth pangs, when do the birth pangs come, at the end of the pregnancy.

So taking from scripture I add a few more events, there will be wars and rumours of wars, Israel alone has had 15 or 16 since 1948. There will be an increase in earth quakes, stats show over the last 100 years they have not only increased they have become more severe. There will be an increase in pestilences, there has and they are getting worse. There will be a hardening of hearts, children will be disobedient to their parents, man will go with man and woman with woman, and lots more. God flooded the whole world as we know saving Noah, seven of his family and the animals and birds, he said he would never flood the whole world again. But, in the latter days we are told there will be raging waters in diverse places, there are not many countries left in this world that have not experienced flooding. Global warning scientists say, scripture says man will go to and for knowledge but will not find the truth. Their eyes are veiled due to their sins.

Let us rejoice in God our Saviour, let us Praise the Lord, he has told us before so that when they happen, we, saved souls, will know God said they would happen as he has with all prophesies.

From 1948, things happened slowly, as they do in the first 3 months of a pregnancy. From the 1960 the world set itself Free, so they thought, so I thought in those sinful days. Free sex, free speech, free everything, respect went out of the window. From the 1960, for the next 20-30 years the pregnancy stages started to show, more and more, the world was changing, hearts were hardening all the time.

We are told, when we see these things, this is the birth pang stage, the end isn't yet, but it is very close. PTL

Now when I look at what JerryfromMass and myself discussed above, we see also the Messianic Jews, right in the middle, from the 1970's to now, 100,000 members, 100,000 Jews turned to Christ, 100,000 Jews are part of the church, the ekklesia. Here also IF the 144,000 are to come from these, to be used to reach the Jews who do not know Jesus, Yeshua their Messiah, their promised one, their numbers are also showing, time is short.

It is always worth a chat don't you think?

1948, El Al air, and Aliyah began. Aliyah is increasing day by day. We are ever closer to our Lord's return.

 

[Reba1]

Some times when i read posts i read the State of Israel elevated as Aarons golden calf.

 

[JerryfromMass]

Some times when i read posts i read the State of Israel elevated as Aarons golden calf.

Well, there's no denying that Israel is part of the prophetic eschatalogical. And we who claim Jesus as our Savior and Lord are grafted in (adopted heirs) to the natural root, which is Abraham. Israel as it currently exists is, for the most part, a secular heap of idol worshippers. But that doesn't mean we stop praying them because Chist is at work in Israel through messianic missionaries, and there are converts coming to Christ continually.

 

[PloughBoy]

One reason i do not like to get in conversations with christians about "Israel" the nation is it seems like most christians seems to know nothing about how GOD dealt with the Nation of "Israel" in The Bible. You listen to them talk about "GOD and How HE felt about them and His purpose, It is like a completely different Book than what is recorded in the Bible and purpose. And many do not even know the Different from "The Abrahamic Covenant" which is not the same as "The Sinaitic Covenant" that was confined to a single nation and was "Limited" in its application.
"The Abrahamic Covenant" which consists of "ALL Nations"! No conditions!

Galatians 3:18
For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise.
(Hebrews 6)NIV
"When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, saying, “I will surely bless you and give you many descendants.” And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised".

"People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."

I still cannot see how a "true Child of The Living GOD" cannot see a great Gulf between "The Nation of Israel" and The "sons of GOD" coming from "All Nations" The promise given to "Abraham" who swore on "HIMSELF" what HE would do. And I will "quote" this text of Scripture one more time and I ain't going to explain it, for it explains it's self.

And JESUS said:
American King James Version
"Truly I say to you, Among them that are born of women there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."


When a True Child of GOD grasp this, He or she understands "Israel" as a nation and some what role in "redemption" is provable that will show a great force.
I will not say any more. Sometimes 'pearls are not to be cast'

I am not teaching, but I do understand somethings recorded in the Book.

 

[Garee]

Many from my experiences dismiss that all Israel is not born again Israel. Like the first century reformation never occurred. Same with not all Jews are born again as an inward Jew born of the spirit not the flesh .It’s never about flesh and blood against flesh and blood. Jesus said of His own flesh it profits for nothing. It was the work of the father working with the Son that did profit.

Those of the number counting mankind or time are said not to be wise .They use the literal measure not the golden rule of faith that comes by searching the parables rightly dividing them(mixing faith)

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

Christian the new name the father of all nations promised in Isaiah 62 .He named the bride in Acts. Christian a more befitting name to represent all the nations as a kingdom of Priest. Satan could no longer deceive all the nation to become a Jew the veil was rent no jewish Rabbi as master infalible teacher was in the holy of holies..Satan fell. (Revelation 20:5 ) no longer could he decieve all the nations in that way.The abomination of desolation (Kings in Isreal was made void

Words have meaning attached to them. Change the meaning, change the author intent.

The 144, 000 is a number no man could count. The golden measure or metaphor. The thousand years it represent a unknown time period .at one time the 144, 000 all the nations were signified by the golden measure. . the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

Again thousand throughout the Bible is used to represent a unknowable.

Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

There were no signs given to wonder after. Jesus said it’s an evil faithless generation that does seek after sign to wonder or marvel after .Sign of the time yes things that have be going on since the beginning of time when God corrupted the whole creation.

Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

144,000 the literal number of man. The number no man could count the golden measure of faith the unseen eternal. We walk by faith and not by sight.

Revelation 21: 15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

John literaly saw 144,000. Jew were used to represent all the nation from the very beginning .Abel the first member of the bride of Christ sent out as a apostle . His brother would have noting to do with the golden rule .(faith) Cain the marked man murdered him and plowed Abel under . . out of sight out of mind the pagan foundation

 

[Reba1]

Well, there's no denying that Israel is part of the prophetic eschatalogical. And we who claim Jesus as our Savior and Lord are grafted in (adopted heirs) to the natural root, which is Abraham. Israel as it currently exists is, for the most part, a secular heap of idol worshippers. But that doesn't mean we stop praying them because Chist is at work in Israel through messianic missionaries, and there are converts coming to Christ continually.

Found a topic we disagree on,

Not being good with words i will simply say . . . believing the early date for the Revelation of Jesus Christ explains a lot.
Yes by all means we should be praying for them they need Jesus just as the rest of us.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


From a political standpoint Israel is an ally of the USA, or at least she was before this last election, and should be treated as such.

 

[PloughBoy]

Found a topic we disagree on,

Not being good with words i will simply say . . . believing the early date for the Revelation of Jesus Christ explains a lot.
Yes by all means we should be praying for them they need Jesus just as the rest of us.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


From a political standpoint Israel is an ally of the USA, or at least she was before this last election, and should be treated as such.

Yes, Israel is worldly just like the USA and all the rest,. "And the World loves its own" and do not be fooled, They take care of one another. and they are after you Either you know it or not.
"The World, The Devil and The Flesh" Pat him on the head if you want too! He will bite

 

[JerryfromMass]

Found a topic we disagree on,

Not being good with words i will simply say . . . believing the early date for the Revelation of Jesus Christ explains a lot.
Yes by all means we should be praying for them they need Jesus just as the rest of us.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


From a political standpoint Israel is an ally of the USA, or at least she was before this last election, and should be treated as such.

All of what I wrote is true:

1. Israel is part of the prophetic eschatalogical

2. We gentile Christians are grafted in (adopted heirs) to the natural root, which is Abraham

3. Israel is currently a secular heap of idol worshippers.

4. Chist is at work in Israel through messianic missionaries,

5. there are converts coming to Christ continually.

With what specifically do you disagree?

 

[Brother-Paul]

One reason i do not like to get in conversations with christians about "Israel" the nation is it seems like most christians seems to know nothing about how GOD dealt with the Nation of "Israel" in The Bible. You listen to them talk about "GOD and How HE felt about them and His purpose, It is like a completely different Book than what is recorded in the Bible and purpose. And many do not even know the Different from "The Abrahamic Covenant" which is not the same as "The Sinaitic Covenant" that was confined to a single nation and was "Limited" in its application.
"The Abrahamic Covenant" which consists of "ALL Nations"! No conditions!

Galatians 3:18
For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God freely granted it to Abraham through a promise.
(Hebrews 6)NIV
"When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, saying, “I will surely bless you and give you many descendants.” And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised".

"People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."

I still cannot see how a "true Child of The Living GOD" cannot see a great Gulf between "The Nation of Israel" and The "sons of GOD" coming from "All Nations" The promise given to "Abraham" who swore on "HIMSELF" what HE would do. And I will "quote" this text of Scripture one more time and I ain't going to explain it, for it explains it's self.

And JESUS said:
American King James Version
"Truly I say to you, Among them that are born of women there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."


When a True Child of GOD grasp this, He or she understands "Israel" as a nation and some what role in "redemption" is provable that will show a great force.
I will not say any more. Sometimes 'pearls are not to be cast'

I am not teaching, but I do understand somethings recorded in the Book.

We can brother, but there is as we know, the spiritual Israel, and the land Israel given to Abraham and all descendants.

There has to be the physical place Israel for the Jews to return to, the place that was declared a state again on 14 May 1948.

But also as we know, Israel is just like the rest of the world, lost souls, living in sin, every form of sin, including LGBTQ+

We are to pray for both Israel's brother, the spiritual Israel, the body of Christ, and the place Israel, for one we weep and for the other we rejoice in the Lord.

May the Father's will be done through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen

 

[Brother-Paul]

All of what I wrote is true:

1. Israel is part of the prophetic eschatalogical

2. We gentile Christians are grafted in (adopted heirs) to the natural root, which is Abraham

3. Israel is currently a secular heap of idol worshippers.

4. Christ is at work in Israel through messianic missionaries,

5. there are converts coming to Christ continually.

We rejoice in God our Saviour brother, I am with you 100% regarding Israel on earth.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Found a topic we disagree on,

Not being good with words i will simply say . . . believing the early date for the Revelation of Jesus Christ explains a lot.
Yes by all means we should be praying for them they need Jesus just as the rest of us.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


From a political standpoint Israel is an ally of the USA, or at least she was before this last election, and should be treated as such.

Greetings Reba1

Often people refer to Israel but only consider the land given to Abraham and all descendants. Sometimes we talk about Israel but do not confirm which one we are referring to.

We must all be clear when talking about Israel which one we are referring to, for two reasons,
1 - if we don't confirm which Israel we are referring to, there is sure to be misunderstandings.
2 - there are many who may read the conversation on here that do not know or realise there are two Israel's. The place on earth and the spiritual Israel.
The two are poles apart, as far as the east is from the west, as far as the difference between truly lost and truly saved.

Shalom

 

[Reba1]

As stated I am not a good writer i dont put words to my understandings well. I will attempt to properly reply to each of your points.

All of what I wrote is true:

as is all i posted

1. Israel is part of the prophetic eschatalogical

agree in part i believe they were as apposed to is .. which is why i stated the early writing of The Revelation of Christ . I understand the Olivit discourse to be of the destruction of Jerusalem. In reading the OT sees God always warned them about the coming destruction i see the same pattern in the Olivit discourse.

2. We gentile Christians are grafted in (adopted heirs) to the natural root, which is Abraham

Rev_22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

3. Israel is currently a secular heap of idol worshippers.

along with all the other liberal evils as the USA is

4. Chist is at work in Israel through messianic missionaries,

My guess , there are more then only messianic missionaries.

5. there are converts coming to Christ continually.

Amen

With what specifically do you disagree?

[/QUOTE]
Hope my simple words have explained my view These differences, as many others , IMO are not unto Salvation but interesting.

 

[Reba1]

Greetings Reba1

Often people refer to Israel but only consider the land given to Abraham and all descendants. Sometimes we talk about Israel but do not confirm which one we are referring to.

We must all be clear when talking about Israel which one we are referring to, for two reasons,
1 - if we don't confirm which Israel we are referring to, there is sure to be misunderstandings.
2 - there are many who may read the conversation on here that do not know or realise there are two Israel's. The place on earth and the spiritual Israel.
The two are poles apart, as far as the east is from the west, as far as the difference between truly lost and truly saved.

Shalom

When speaking of Israel i try to remember to say "todays Israel" referring to the 1948 state of Israel . For Christians to say God restored the land mass to 'todays Israel' is saying God did not fulfill in whole. We know the land mass is not what was in the Covenant .

Agree with point 2

The Jewish peoples have always been a Nation with or with out the land mass. For example; as the Cherokees

 

[Brother-Paul]

When speaking of Israel i try to remember to say "todays Israel" referring to the 1948 state of Israel . For Christians to say God restored the land mass to 'todays Israel' is saying God did not fulfill in whole. We know the land mass is not what was in the Covenant .

Bless you

When speaking of Israel as 'today's Israel' it can still be confusing to some, because today there are still two Israels.

Israel, the Holy land as it is called and the Spiritual Israel.

Israel [land] is the land given to the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and for all generations from his seed.

Israel [spiritual] was the faithful Jews but under the new covenant it is the Body of Christ, the ekklesia, the born again from above believers, regardless of age, sex, colour or tongue, regardless of Jew or Gentile, only the born again are the ekklesia, therefore only the born again can be part of the spiritual Israel.

 

[Brad Huber]

When God brought the jews out of egypt, they, like the egyptians were mostly idol worshipers. Yet God brought them out and into the Holy Land. Yet despite God saving them from complete integration, He made sure that they were winnowed out in the desert, purified through hardship, and purging when needed without destroying them.
When God brought the jews back from babylon, they knew little of God, and the local nations around Jerusalem hated them and constantly harrased them and threatened them, it was in this hardship of trying to repair the wall before the locals nations tried to destroyed them with false reports back to babylon, giving their forces reason to wipe out the jews. The hardships they faced drew them slowly closer to God while in fear of their lives and having to trust in God. It was only when the torah and the law and the prophetic books were found and read to the people that they realized how far they had fallen, and began to slowly change their hearts to serve God.
When God brought back the jews from dispersal all over the world after WW2, all the local arab nations decided they would destroy Israel before it was able to begin as a nation, able to defend itself. They were mostly without faith, yet they were surprisingly able to defend themselves, but under constant threat of destruction from the arab world. This hardship they suffer now is slowly bringing them back to trusting and faith in God. Yet that faith is shaky, and the faith is often in weaponry and the military. They will receive the same winnowing in the coming years, till just a small portion is left alive, and that portion will have nothing left of pride of self, but to trust in God.
God brought them back to Israel, He didnt bring them back to palestine. God allowed some amoung them more savage than others to have their way so that the nation would be formed, but the strong military which is trusted more so now due to all the heroic miracle battles, and pride of self, will eventually bring them low before the world, and only through hardship will turn to God. So it has always been, so it is now. Regardless of terrible things the jews might do to those around them or the terrible things done to them, the land was given to them, God's special land that "He", God, gave to Israel, and then extended their borders.
Why do people today find reasons to look at all the faults of Israelites and ignore their own faults and the faults of those around them? Whatever happened to pulling out the plank of our own eyes first to see clearly the speck in others eyes?

 

[B-A-C]

Rom 11:25; For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
Rom 11:26; And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "THE DELIVERER WILL COME OUT OF ZION, AND HE WILL TURN AWAY UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB;
Rom 11:27; FOR THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."
Rom 11:28; Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.
Rom 11:29; For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
Rom 11:30; For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience,
Rom 11:31; even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32; For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
Rom 11:33; Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!

Deut 7:6; "For you are a holy people to the LORD your God; the LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth.
Deut 7:7; The LORD did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples;
Deut 7:8; but because the LORD loves you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore to your fathers, the LORD has brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you from the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Deut 7:9; "Therefore know that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy for a thousand generations with those who love Him and keep His commandments;

Gen 12:2; I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing.
Gen 12:3; I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."

 

[Brother-Paul]

Why do people today find reasons to look at all the faults of Israelites and ignore their own faults and the faults of those around them? Whatever happened to pulling out the plank of our own eyes first to see clearly the speck in others eyes?

Greetings brother

As we know the Jews are the most persecuted people on earth, persecuted by the world who hate them and persecuted by God for disobeying him.

The world hates them because they are a chosen race. Antisemitism is on the rise again and is happening all over the world.

God intended this chosen race to be an example to the world of how blessed they are by following God, what happened is history as we know Brad.

 

[B-A-C]

Concerning the 144,000 These aren't the only Jews that will saved. They are a special remnant that meets certain requirements.

Rev 14:1; Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father's name written on their foreheads.
Rev 14:2; And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder. And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps.
Rev 14:3; They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth.
Rev 14:4; These are the ones who were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb.
Rev 14:5; And in their mouth was found no deceit, for they are without fault before the throne of God.

 

[B-A-C]

God intended this chosen race to be an example to the world of how blessed they are by following God, what happened is history as we know Brad.

True, but I find it interesting Israel was supposed to make the rest of the world jealous, and yet God uses the Gentiles to make the Jews jealous.

Rom 10:19; But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says: "I WILL PROVOKE YOU TO JEALOUSY BY THOSE WHO ARE NOT A NATION, I WILL MOVE YOU TO ANGER BY A FOOLISH NATION."

Now while "most" Gentiles are not jealous of the Jews, apparently Hitler was. While the Arab/Muslim/Palestinian world would never confess to being jealous of the Jews, it sure comes across that way.

If the Palestinians would lay down their arms, there would be peace.
If Israel laid down their arms, there would be no more Israel.

 

[Brother-Paul]

True, but I find it interesting Israel was supposed to make the rest of the world jealous, and yet God uses the Gentiles to make the Jews jealous.

Rom 10:19; But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says: "I WILL PROVOKE YOU TO JEALOUSY BY THOSE WHO ARE NOT A NATION, I WILL MOVE YOU TO ANGER BY A FOOLISH NATION."

Now while "most" Gentiles are not jealous of the Jews, apparently Hitler was. While the Arab/Muslim/Palestinian world would never confess to being jealous of the Jews, it sure comes across that way.

If the Palestinians would lay down their arms, there would be peace.
If Israel laid down their arms, there would be no more Israel.

So true brother,

But Jews first, as scripture states. The Jews were given many chances and failed many times, even to rejecting their promised saviour. Only them was things changed and the Gentiles given the privilege the Jews should have had.

Your last statement hits the nail on the head for sure. Except to say, God has told us what will happen, as he did with the Jews returning to the promised land, the land that would once again be milk and honey and not barren. The situation in Israel and the middle east at this time does not look like milk and honey, but they are large producers of fruit, figs and lots more, leaders in technology and more. The area was barren and is no longer barren, the milk and honey is just a different flavour.

God's will will be done, God's will is being done. Thanks be to God. Jesus is Lord. Amen