The Lord shall refine the Church!

[Twistie]

Yes, GOD revealed through the prophet Isaiah(Isaiah 10:20-23) saying that :
20 It shall come to pass in that Day(the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium), that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty GOD.
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the CONSUMPTION decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a CONSUMPTION, even determined, in the midst of all the land.( of Israel in this current seventh Day)

Yes, only an only a remnant will be saved, and a consumption was decreed. Here's the remnant: Revelation 7:1-8:->
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth(Jewish people), nor on the sea(Gentile poples), nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living GOD: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth(Israel) and the sea(Gentile nations),

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth(Israel), neither the sea(Gentile nations), nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our GOD in their foreheads.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Of the each tribe of Israel, were sealed twelve thousand, so 12 x 12000 = 144000. These are the remant of Israel that will be saved, the others of the current population will be cast into the hell's fire, as JESUS warned: Matthew 23:31-35
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

John the Baptist, the angel of the Lord, prophesied, saying:Matthew 3:7-10:
O generation of vipers(serpents, like their father-John 8:44), who hath warned you to flee from the WRATH to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that GOD is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast INTO THE FIRE. (The prophecy of John the Baptist will LITERALLY be fulfilled from now on).

Yes, my Lord JESUS has said (Matthew 10:24-25) that "24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord.

Yes, there are three that bear record (testify) in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8), the Father(GOD the Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written erroneously in English language, but a Person): and these three are One.

GOD BLESS

You sure wanna be a teacher huh? That's pride like I said..

Even a parrot can learn to repeat words

 

[Hekuran]

Yes, GOD revealed through the prophet Isaiah(Isaiah 10:20-23) saying that :
20 It shall come to pass in that Day(the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium), that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty GOD.
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the CONSUMPTION decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a CONSUMPTION, even determined, in the midst of all the land.( of Israel in this current seventh Day)

Yes, only an only a remnant will be saved, and a consumption was decreed. Here's the remnant: Revelation 7:1-8:->
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth(Jewish people), nor on the sea(Gentile poples), nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living GOD: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth(Israel) and the sea(Gentile nations),

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth(Israel), neither the sea(Gentile nations), nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our GOD in their foreheads.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Of the each tribe of Israel, were sealed twelve thousand, so 12 x 12000 = 144000. These are the remant of Israel that will be saved, the others of the current population will be cast into the hell's fire, as JESUS warned: Matthew 23:31-35
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

John the Baptist, the angel of the Lord, prophesied, saying:Matthew 3:7-10:
O generation of vipers(serpents, like their father-John 8:44), who hath warned you to flee from the WRATH to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that GOD is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast INTO THE FIRE. (The prophecy of John the Baptist will LITERALLY be fulfilled from now on).

Yes, my Lord JESUS has said (Matthew 10:24-25) that "24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord.

Yes, there are three that bear record (testify) in heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8), the Father(GOD the Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written erroneously in English language, but a Person): and these three are One.

GOD BLESS

This is a ghastly mash up. You can't just add words to the bible to make phrases mean what you'd like them to mean. Shocking!

 

[Hekuran]

The first filii of Devil/son of Devil, elected as Pope( later called , Vicarivs Filii Dei ) and ruler of the apostate Church of Rome, his name was Linvs, he was the ruler of the apostate Church and was elected as Pope from around 67 to 76AD.

The second filii of Devil/son of Devil, elected as Pope(later called Vicarivs Filii Dei) and ruler of the apostate Church of Rome, his name was Anacletvs, he was the ruler of the apostate Church and was elected as Pope from around 76–79 / 88–91AD. It's once erroneously split into Cletus and Anacletus.

1John 2:18+21
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists(mainly in the apostate Church of Rome, the cradle of Antichrist); whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the Truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the Truth.

Yes, the birthplace, or the cradle of Antichrist, was the own Church, unfortunately, see how.

GET READY. THE 5th UNIVERSAL AND SATANIC KINGDOM, THE ANTICHRIST's KINGDOM, IT WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE EARTH FROM NOW ON - Daniel 2:v.41-45/

GET READY. THE 5th UNIVERSAL AND SATANIC KINGDOM, THE ANTICHRIST's KINGDOM, IT WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE EARTH FROM NOW ON - Daniel 2:v.41-45

GET READY. THE 5th UNIVERSAL AND SATANIC KINGDOM, THE ANTICHRIST's KINGDOM, IT WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE EARTH FROM NOW ON - Daniel 2:v.41-45 Indeed there are billions of years behind us, an Eternity, and now another year is going into Eternity, gone forever, never to be, bye bye 2022. Let...

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Again, no evidence that the first century church in Rome was apostate. Nor that Linus or Anacletus led the church astray.

In 2 Timothy Paul sends brotherly greetings to Linus. Paul considers him a brother, not a son of the devil.

 

[Oseas]

Although this verse of Scripture is often used by those who believe in three persons of God, it actually refutes this view, for it says that “these three are one.”

So you didn't understand what the Word of GOD says. Who is making a contradiction with the verse and refutes the view is you, in the same way as it hapenned in Genesis 3:1.

Some interpret this phrase to mean one in unity as husband and wife are one. But it should be pointed out that this view is essentially polytheistic.

Yes, husband and wife are one, as the mystery between Christ and His true Church and both are one, according His own will. JESUS said to the Father: John 17:6 and 22-23and-> I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy Word. John 17:22-23: --> 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be ONE (HERE billions are One), even as we are One: -->23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made PERFECT in One; and that THE WORLD may KNOW that thou hast sent me, and hast LOVED them, as thou hast loved me. Hallelujaaah!!!

John 17:11-12: ->11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the Scripture might be fulfilled. (Yes, EXCEPT the MAN of sin, son of perdition, as JESUS said, for the sacrifice of JESUS was to save the WORLD exclusively, but NEVER to save the Devil, or EXCEPT to save Satan of the everlasting condenation).

If the word one referred to unity instead of a numerical designation, then the Godhead could be viewed as many gods in a united council or government. If unity were meant, the verse should have read, “These three agree as one.”

Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:22-23.

It is also interesting to note that this verse does not use the word Son, but Word. If Son were the special name of a distinct person in the Godhead, and if this verse were trying to teach distinct persons, why did it use Word instead of Son? Son does not refer primarily to deity, but Word does. The Word is not a distinct person from the Father any more than a man and his word are distinct persons. Rather, the Word is the thought, plan, or mind of God and also the expression of God.

You don't understand what the Word of GOD reveals, your thinking is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock,not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:22-23.
What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? What does the Word of GOD say?
Hebrews 1:1-3
1 GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days(last two Day or last two millennia) spoken unto us by His Son-JESUS-, whom GOD hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also GOD made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of GOD's glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of the Person of GOD, and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

There is practically unanimous agreement among Bible scholars that 1 John 5:7 is really not part of the Bible at all! All major translations since the King James Version have omitted it, including the Revised Standard Version, The Amplified Bible, and the New International Version. So does the generally accepted Greek text (Nestle’s text). The NIV renders I John 5:7-8 as, “For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and these three are in agreement.”

The KJV included verse 7 only because the 1522 edition of the Greek text compiled by Erasmus included it. Originally Erasmus had excluded this passage from his editions of 1516 and 1519 because it was not in any of 5,000 Greek manuscripts but only in late manuscripts of the Vulgate—the Latin version then used by the Roman Catholic Church. When the Catholic church put pressure on Erasmus to include this verse, he promised to do so if they could find even one Greek manuscript that had it. They finally produced one, so Erasmus reluctantly added the verse in, even though the manuscript so produced dated from 1520. (See Norman Geisler and William Nix, A General Introduction to the Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1968, 370.) From this evidence, it seems plausible that some overzealous copyist saw “there are three that testify” and decided to insert a little teaching of his own. Certainly, the passage in question is completely unrelated to the rest of John’s discussion here and interrupts the flow of his logical argument.

Although all the evidence indicates this passage was not originally a part of I John, God had His hand of protection and preservation on His Word. Despite the efforts of humans, God did not allow the passage to contradict His Word. Whether a person believes that I John 5:7 was originally part of the Bible or that it was a later interpolation, it does not teach three persons of God but rather reaffirms the Bible’s teaching of one indivisible God with various manifestations.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? Your verbiage above is good for nothing, it's a stumblingblock, and is to death. GOD sent JESUS in the fourth Day or around 4000 years after Adam-the Greater Light-and JESUS said: John 5:17:->My Father (i.e. the Word, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself) worketh hitherto, and I work. John 10:30->I and my Father are One. Do you understand?

JESUS said about the Person of the Holy Spirit-God of the earth: John 17:7-15 combined with Revelation 11:3-4:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the Truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of Judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of Judgment, because the prince of this world(Satan)is Judged.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come(John 15:26,take a look), he will guide you into all Truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Revelation 11:3-4
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

That said, be careful or else get ready, in fact you are working for tghe red dragon-Revelation 12:7-17

IS NOT THE PERSON OF HOLY SPIRIT THE LAWFUL / LEGITIMATE YOUNGER BROTHER OF JESUS? LUKE 15:v.32​

IS NOT THE PERSON OF HOLY SPIRIT THE LAWFUL / LEGITIMATE YOUNGER BROTHER OF JESUS? LUKE 15:v.32

IS NOT THE PERSON OF HOLY SPIRIT THE LAWFUL / LEGITIMATE YOUNGER BROTHER OF JESUS? LUKE 15:v.32 1John 5:v.7 There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father-The WORD- , the Word-The Word made flesh-JESUS- , and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a...

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[Oseas]

You sure wanna be a teacher huh? That's pride like I said..

Even a parrot can learn to repeat words

What my Lord and Master said, it is written in John 7:38-39:-> 38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake JESUS of the Spirit, which they that believe on Him should receive:...)
If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. Romans 8:9.

 

[Oseas]

This is a ghastly mash up. You can't just add words to the bible to make phrases mean what you'd like them to mean. Shocking!

You should have to say that to whom posted the prior message #20

 

[Oseas]

Again, no evidence that the first century church in Rome was apostate. Nor that Linus or Anacletus led the church astray.
In 2 Timothy Paul sends brotherly greetings to Linus. Paul considers him a brother, not a son of the devil.

It is what the satanic History of the Roman Catholic Church, which rides upon the MAN Beast of sea, having 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy, the main partner of the red Dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads, reveals to be.

Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of...

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[Twistie]

What my Lord and Master said, it is written in John 7:38-39:-> 38 He that believeth on me, as the Scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake JESUS of the Spirit, which they that believe on Him should receive:...)
If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. Romans 8:9.

I'll say it again even a parrot can repeat..

 

[First and the Last]

So you didn't understand what the Word of GOD says. Who is making a contradiction with the verse and refutes the view is you, in the same way as it happened in Genesis 3:1.

The interpretation of 1 John 5:7 has been a topic of theological debate. This verse reads, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." it's essential to understand the context and textual criticism surrounding this passage.

From a scholarly perspective, it's crucial to note that the inclusion of this specific verse in many translations of the Bible is not universally accepted among biblical scholars. Many modern translations and biblical manuscripts do not include 1 John 5:7-8 in their entirety or render it differently, suggesting that it may have been added later by scribes to support Trinitarian doctrine. The earliest and most reliable Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, such as Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, do not include 1 John 5:7-8 in their original form. These manuscripts are dated from the 4th century and are considered highly authoritative in textual criticism. Some later manuscripts, particularly from the Middle Ages, include 1 John 5:7-8, but they are absent from the earliest and more reliable manuscripts. This suggests that these verses may have been added by scribes at a later time to inject their theology, which became more pronounced in Christian theology after the 4th century.

Moreover, the interpretation of "these three are one" in 1 John 5:7 refers to the unity and agreement of the Father, the Word (often interpreted as Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit in their divine purpose and action. This unity asserts the singular divine identity of God manifested as Father in creation, Son in Redemption and Holy Ghost in Regeneration.

Regarding the comparison to Genesis 3:1, where deception is introduced into the narrative, it's important not to equate scholarly interpretation and questioning with deception. Asking critical questions and seeking deeper understanding of biblical texts is a legitimate and encouraged practice within Christian theology. Pastors and scholars alike engage in careful study and reflection to discern the most faithful interpretation of Scripture, recognizing that understanding God's revelation is a process guided by the Holy Spirit.

Therefore, the assertion that questioning the interpretation of 1 John 5:7 is equivalent to making a contradiction or promoting deception is unfounded. Rather, it reflects a commitment to diligent study of Scripture and a desire to understand and teach God's Word faithfully. Pastors and theologians are called to approach biblical interpretation with humility, openness to different perspectives, and a reliance on sound scholarship to guide their understanding and teaching of the truth revealed in Scripture.

 

[First and the Last]

Yes, husband and wife are one, as the mystery between Christ and His true Church and both are one, according His own will. JESUS said to the Father: John 17:6 and 22-23and-> I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy Word. John 17:22-23: --> 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be ONE (HERE billions are One), even as we are One: -->23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made PERFECT in One; and that THE WORLD may KNOW that thou hast sent me, and hast LOVED them, as thou hast loved me. Hallelujaaah!!!

John 17:11-12: ->11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the Scripture might be fulfilled. (Yes, EXCEPT the MAN of sin, son of perdition, as JESUS said, for the sacrifice of JESUS was to save the WORLD exclusively, but NEVER to save the Devil, or EXCEPT to save Satan of the everlasting condenation).

Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:22-23.

Rooted in Scripture, we focus on the foundational truth that God is One, and He dwells bodily in the person of Jesus Christ. This doctrine is central to understanding the nature of God and His interaction with humanity.

Scripturally, we affirm that God has revealed Himself as singular and indivisible. Deuteronomy 6:4 declares, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." This statement emphasizes the absolute unity and uniqueness of God. Throughout the Old Testament, God reaffirms His oneness and exclusive deity, challenging any notion of multiplicity or division within His being (Isaiah 45:5; Isaiah 43:10-11).

In the New Testament, this foundational truth is further clarified in the person of Jesus Christ. Colossians 2:9 teaches us that "in him [Christ] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Here, the apostle Paul emphasizes that the entirety of God's nature, essence, and deity is fully present in Jesus Christ. This means that Jesus is not merely a part or manifestation of God, but He is God incarnate—the exact representation of His being (Hebrews 1:3).

Moreover, John 1:1-14 affirms that Jesus, the Word (Logos), was with God and was God from the beginning. Verse 14 states, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." This incarnation of God in Jesus Christ demonstrates God's desire to reveal Himself intimately to humanity while maintaining His singular divine identity.

It is vital to convey that the Oneness of God is not merely a theological concept but a foundational truth that impacts our worship, understanding of salvation, and daily walk with God. Jesus Himself affirmed this truth in John 10:30, stating, "I and my Father are one." This statement reinforces that Jesus and the Father are not separate beings but share a singular divine identity and purpose.

Therefore, our faith rests in the understanding that God, in His infinite wisdom and love, chose to manifest Himself fully in Jesus Christ. Through Christ, we see God's perfect revelation and plan for redemption, inviting us into a personal relationship with Him. Embracing the Oneness of God enriches our worship, deepens our understanding of His Word, and strengthens our commitment to live in accordance with His will. As we teach and preach this truth, let us do so with passion and clarity, guiding others to know and experience the fullness of God revealed in Jesus Christ.

 

[First and the Last]

Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:22-23.

You don't understand what the Word of GOD reveals, your thinking is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock,not from GOD's perspective-Matthew 16:22-23.
What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? What does the Word of GOD say?
Hebrews 1:1-3
1 GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days(last two Day or last two millennia) spoken unto us by His Son-JESUS-, whom GOD hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also GOD made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of GOD's glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of the Person of GOD, and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

I appreciate your concern, and I understand the importance of seeking God's perspective in all matters, especially concerning His nature and how He reveals Himself to us. In my explanation, I sought to ground our understanding in the Scriptures, which are God's revelation of Himself to humanity.

Scripture consistently affirms the Oneness of God, emphasizing His unity and singular identity. Deuteronomy 6:4 declares, "The Lord our God is one Lord," echoing throughout both the Old and New Testaments. Jesus Himself affirmed this truth when He declared, "I and my Father are one" (John 10:30), inviting us to understand His divine identity and relationship with the Father.

When we examine passages like Colossians 2:9, which states that "in [Christ] dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily," and John 1:1-14, where the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, we see God's intention to reveal Himself fully in Jesus Christ. This understanding aligns with God's revealed Word and His redemptive plan for humanity.

Regarding Matthew 16:22-23, where Jesus rebuked Peter's human perspective, it serves as a reminder to seek God's will and understanding above our own. However, in teaching about God's nature as revealed in Scripture, we rely on God's Word to guide us. Our pursuit is to align our understanding with what God has revealed about Himself rather than relying on human speculation.

Therefore, in explaining the Oneness of God, I am seeking to faithfully convey what Scripture teaches about His nature and how He reveals Himself to us through Jesus Christ. This foundational truth impacts our faith and relationship with God, inviting us into deeper intimacy and worship of the one true God who has revealed Himself in His Son.

 

[Oseas]

I'll say it again even a parrot can repeat..

He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaks of the earth:
He that come from above is above all, and what he has seen and heard, that he testifies,

He whom GOD sent speaks the words of GOD, for GOD gives not the Spirit by measure unto him. He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the WRATH of my GOD abides on him. John 8:47 says: He that is of GOD heareth GOD's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of GOD. And Matthew 25:29-30 say: -->29 Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. 30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Twistie]

He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaks of the earth:
He that come from above is above all, and what he has seen and heard, that he testifies,

He whom GOD sent speaks the words of GOD, for GOD gives not the Spirit by measure unto him. He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the WRATH of my GOD abides on him. John 8:47 says: He that is of GOD heareth GOD's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of GOD. And Matthew 25:29-30 say: -->29 Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. 30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

When you can talk with me then try again but you just like talking at like a few others on here..

Like I said from the start you make no sense n quoting scriptures to throw around don't help you in this case

 

[Hekuran]

It is what the satanic History of the Roman Catholic Church, which rides upon the MAN Beast of sea, having 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy, the main partner of the red Dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads, reveals to be.

Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of...

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Still just speculative ideas that fly completely free of scripture. There's not a single word in the new testament that links the church in Rome with apostasy. Absolutely nothing.

16 chapters of dense hard hitting theology in the letter to the Romans - and Paul doesn't mention it.

 

[Oseas]

I appreciate your concern, and I understand the importance of seeking God's perspective in all matters, especially concerning His nature and how He reveals Himself to us. In my explanation, I sought to ground our understanding in the Scriptures, which are God's revelation of Himself to humanity.

Yes, I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand? GOD is Spirit, nonetheless, we can know His nature and how He has revealed Himself to humanity by His Son exclusively, without JESUS was not any thing made that was made, understand? GOD said to JESUS: Let us (both GOD and JESUS) make man in our IMAGE (image?Hebrews 1:3), after our likeness, without JESUS, GOD would not make MAN in His IMAGE-John 5:19. Without JESUS was not any thing made that was made-John 1:3.

Scripture consistently affirms the Oneness of God, emphasizing His unity and singular identity. Deuteronomy 6:4 declares, "The Lord our God is one Lord," echoing throughout both the Old and New Testaments.

Since the beginning of the Church of the Lord JESUS existed those which testified like you are doing here, based merily in the letter of Scriptures, it without the spirit of GOD. Then James said: Thou believest that there is one GOD; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. The intention of them was to deny the Person of JESUS, in fact the antichrist, as said John apostle-1John 2:18. And Paul Aposte in his epistle to the Church of Corinthians, he also confirmed what James said-2Corinthians 11:13-15.
And JESUS warned: John 5:23-He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent Him.
Be careful or else get ready

Jesus Himself affirmed this truth when He declared, "I and my Father are one" (John 10:30), inviting us to understand His divine identity and relationship with the Father.

When we examine passages like Colossians 2:9, which states that "in [Christ] dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily," and John 1:1-14, where the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, we see God's intention to reveal Himself fully in Jesus Christ. This understanding aligns with God's revealed Word and His redemptive plan for humanity.

GOD Father is Spirit, The Word is GOD, GOD Himself; He was made flesh, incarnated Himself, and chose a NAME for Himself-JESUS. Two distincts Persons, spiritual nature and human nature, and BOTH are One, as JESUS said: I and my Father are One. Two distincts Persons. Acts 4:12- Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. -EXCEPT the NAME of JESUS.

But JESUS makes it clear saying that "'no MAN knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him.

That said, the knowledge of the Father is possible EXCLUSIVELY if JESUS reveals Him, any speculation is devilish, it is satanic.

Regarding Matthew 16:22-23, where Jesus rebuked Peter's human perspective, it serves as a reminder to seek God's will and understanding above our own. However, in teaching about God's nature as revealed in Scripture, we rely on God's Word to guide us. Our pursuit is to align our understanding with what God has revealed about Himself rather than relying on human speculation.

That said, I ask to you: Why are you believing in human speculation that surreptitiously or stealthy try to deny the distinct existence of two Persons between JESUS and the Father, and erroneously honours only the Father, but honours not the Son? Even the Spirit speaketh EXPRESSLY, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of demons-1Timothy 4:1; (according to the beliefs of demons-James 2:19)

Therefore, in explaining the Oneness of God, I am seeking to faithfully convey what Scripture teaches about His nature and how He reveals Himself to us through Jesus Christ. This foundational truth impacts our faith and relationship with God, inviting us into deeper intimacy and worship of the one true God who has revealed Himself in His Son.

What does the Word of GOD say? Hebrews 4:12-13:
12 The Word of GOD is quick, and powerful(the Word is GOD, GOD Himself), and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to render an account.

Be careful or else get ready

 

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Still just speculative ideas that fly completely free of scripture. There's not a single word in the new testament that links the church in Rome with apostasy. Absolutely nothing.

16 chapters of dense hard hitting theology in the letter to the Romans - and Paul doesn't mention it.

Romans 1:21-32 - Paul Apostle reveals spiritual condition of the apostate Church of Rome, and its satanic idolatry.

Spiritual condition of the Apostate Church of Rome and its idolatries -
21 Because that, when they knew GOD, they glorified Him not as GOD, neither were thankful; but BECAME VAIN in their imaginations, and their FOOLISH HEART was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible GOD into an image made like to corruptible MAN, ... Since then and until the current time, the ruler of the Roman Catholic Church, the Popes, beatified countless defuncts and they and all their followers invoked and still invoke the supposed saints beatified , It is interesting that the spiritists ALSO invoke the deads in their cults like the king Saul did , and all the high hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church and their followers also invoke the deads and call them in their prayers like a disguised spiritism. Ridiculous and devilish, satanic.

24 Wherefore GOD also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of GOD into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (Mary mother of JESUS, Apostles, and countless DEFUNCTS BEATIFIED BY THE POPES, like Madre Teresa, among many other defuncts), more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause GOD gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(The apostate Church of Rome with her guides and followers corrupted itself exceedingly, and turned morally corrupt , perverted, a DEPRAVED Church since ancient times, today is full of pedophiles, abusers of childs, as happened in Canada, for example, and in many other places around the world).

28 And even as they did not like to retain GOD in their knowledge, GOD gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of GOD, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the Judgment of GOD, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Revelation 21:8 -But the idolaters, and the abominable, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and murderers, and fearful, and unbelieving, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

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When you can talk with me then try again but you just like talking at like a few others on here..

Like I said from the start you make no sense n quoting scriptures to throw around don't help you in this case

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?
He that is of GOD heareth God's words.

 

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GOD said to JESUS: Let us (both GOD and JESUS) make man in our IMAGE (image?Hebrews 1:3), after our likeness, without JESUS, GOD would not make MAN in His IMAGE-John 5:19. Without JESUS was not anything made that was made-John 1:3.

“And God said, Let us make man in our image” (Genesis 1:26).

Why does this verse use a plural pronoun for God? Before we answer this, let us note that the Bible uses singular pronouns to refer to God hundreds of times. The very next verse uses the singular to show how God fulfilled verse 26: “So God created man in his own image” (Genesis 1:27). Genesis 2:7 says, “And the LORD God formed man.” We must therefore reconcile the plural in 1:26 with the singular in 1:27 and 2:7. We must also look at God’s image creature, which is humanity. Regardless of how we identify the various components that make up a person, he definitely has one personality and will. He is one person in every way. This indicates that the Creator in whose image humans were made is also one being with one personality and will.

Any interpretation of Genesis 1:26 that permits the existence of more than one person of God runs into severe difficulties. Isaiah 44:24 says the LORD created the heavens alone and created the earth by Himself. There was only one Creator according to Malachi 2:10. Furthermore, if the plural in Genesis 1:26 refers to the Son of God, how do we reconcile this with the scriptural record that the Son was not born until thousands of years later in Bethlehem? The Son was made of a woman (Galatians 4:4); if the Son was present in the beginning, who was His mother? If the Son was a spirit being, who was His spirit mother?

Since Genesis 1:26 cannot mean two or more persons in the Godhead, what does it mean? The Jews have traditionally interpreted it to mean that God talked to the angels at creation.2 This does not imply that the angels actually took part in creation but that God informed them of His plans and solicited their comments out of courtesy and respect. On at least one other occasion God talked to the angels and requested their opinions in formulating His plans (I Kings 22:1922). We do know that the angels were present at the creation (Job 38:4-7).

Other commentators have suggested that Genesis 1:26 simply describes God as He counseled with His own will. Ephesians 1:11 supports this view, saying that God works all things “after the counsel of his own will.” By analogy, this is similar to a person saying “Let’s see” (let us see) even when he is planning by himself.

Others explain this passage as a majestic or literary plural. That is, in formal speaking and writing the speaker or writer often refers to himself in the plural, especially if the speaker is royal. Biblical examples of the majestic plural can be cited to illustrate this practice. For example, Daniel told King Nebuchadnezzar, “We will tell the interpretation thereof before the king,” even though Daniel alone proceeded to give the interpretation to the king (Daniel 2:36). King Artaxerxes alternately referred to himself in the singular and the plural in his correspondence. Once, he wrote, “The letter which ye sent unto us hath been plainly read before me” (Ezra 4:18). In a letter to Ezra, Artaxerxes called himself “I” in one place (Ezra 7:13) but “we” in another place (7:24).

 

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And JESUS warned: John 5:23-He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent Him.
Be careful or else get ready

Thank you for bringing up John 5:23, as it indeed highlights the essential relationship between the Father and the Son. However, this verse should be understood within the broader biblical context of God's Oneness. Jesus Christ is the manifestation of the one true God in human form. As Colossians 2:9 states, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." When Jesus speaks of honoring the Son, He is referring to the acknowledgment of His divine identity as God manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16). To honor the Son is to honor the Father, for they are not separate persons but one God revealed in different ways. The Son is the physical, visible manifestation of the invisible Father. Therefore, the true biblical teaching is that God's fullness dwells in Jesus Christ, affirming the unity and singular identity of God as declared in Deuteronomy 6:4. Hence, our worship and honor directed to Jesus Christ is in perfect alignment with honoring the one true God of Israel. I honor the Father through the Son.

 

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GOD Father is Spirit, The Word is GOD, GOD Himself; He was made flesh, incarnated Himself, and chose a NAME for Himself-JESUS. Two distincts Persons, spiritual nature and human nature, and BOTH are One, as JESUS said: I and my Father are One. Two distincts Persons. Acts 4:12- Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. -EXCEPT the NAME of JESUS.

If you can separate the divine nature from the human nature of Christ, then I might consider the concept of multiple persons within the Godhead. However, if you cannot make this separation, it is clear that God is One being who is fully united and eternally inseparably joined in the One person of Jesus Christ.