The Rapture

[Bendito]

I look to Jesus Christ as my confidence is in Him to finish His work in me as per Philippians 1:6,11 KJV & I look to 1 John 3:22-24 KJV for the commandments as I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as my Good Shepherd in giving me the power & fruits I need for abiding in Him and in loving others too.

That's nice, but you need to do stuff too. He can do nothing in you if you will not do your doing. You MUST prepare to be the bride or you will miss it.

 

[JesusIs4Me]

I mean..Salvation is not automatic, healing is not automatic, deliverance is not automatic, spiritual growth is not automatic.....What is automatic...How do you become a part of the Bride automatically? You do not.

Salvation is automatic or otherwise you are not His. John 1:12-13 KJV & Romans 8:9 KJV How can you tell others that Jesus is your Savior if you are not saved yet? If you are using a modern bible version of 1 Corinthians 1:18 where the message has been changed to "in being saved" instead of how the KJV has it as "are saved" in 1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV, then I can understand your source for that confusion. The promise of the Spirit is automatic in Galatians 3:14 KJV for how we are all identified as the children of God by faith in Jesus Christ Galatians 3:26 KJV

But not many have been discipled to learn about Jesus to be rooted in the word in knowing Him as our Good Shepherd to help us lay aside every weight & sin in running that race. Churches look to religious yokes like commitments to Christ and then the Promise Keepers' program, putting themselves under the law to finish His work by their religious flesh as if that is the power for how any one follow Him and it is not just as many churches look to another filling of the Spirit as if that is necessary in their walk with the Lord but it is not when it denies them as a new creature in Christ filled with the Holy Ghost all the time as a testimony that they have been saved by faith in Jesus Christ.

No. The only way we can grow in our walk with the Lord is by trusting Him as our Good Shepherd to help us to follow Him and abide in His words as kept in the KJV so we can discern good and evil in these latter days where faith is hard to find.

Many resort to their own power and chase after other "gods" thus departing from faith in Jesus Christ as well as moving away from their rest in Jesus Christ for all things for why Christianity has become so hard and so thirsty for many that faint.

 

[JesusIs4Me]

That's nice, but you need to do stuff too. He can do nothing in you if you will not do your doing. You MUST prepare to be the bride or you will miss it.

I trust Jesus Christ to prepare me. I trust Him to keep me from my sins as well as leading me away from temptations and even from making any provisions for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof.

Romans 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

As it is, keeping the faith which is the good fight is what He is doing for me as I find many not hearing what I am saying just as they are not hearing what He is saying in the KJV. I trust Him to lead me to withdraw when He wants me to.

 

[Bendito]

Salvation is automatic or otherwise you are not His. John 1:12-13 KJV & Romans 8:9 KJV How can you tell others that Jesus is your Savior if you are not saved yet? If you are using a modern bible version of 1 Corinthians 1:18 where the message has been changed to "in being saved" instead of how the KJV has it as "are saved" in 1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV, then I can understand your source for that confusion. The promise of the Spirit is automatic in Galatians 3:14 KJV for how we are all identified as the children of God by faith in Jesus Christ Galatians 3:26 KJV

But not many have been discipled to learn about Jesus to be rooted in the word in knowing Him as our Good Shepherd to help us lay aside every weight & sin in running that race. Churches look to religious yokes like commitments to Christ and then the Promise Keepers' program, putting themselves under the law to finish His work by their religious flesh as if that is the power for how any one follow Him and it is not just as many churches look to another filling of the Spirit as if that is necessary in their walk with the Lord but it is not when it denies them as a new creature in Christ filled with the Holy Ghost all the time as a testimony that they have been saved by faith in Jesus Christ.

No. The only way we can grow in our walk with the Lord is by trusting Him as our Good Shepherd to help us to follow Him and abide in His words as kept in the KJV so we can discern good and evil in these latter days where faith is hard to find.

Many resort to their own power and chase after other "gods" thus departing from faith in Jesus Christ as well as moving away from their rest in Jesus Christ for all things for why Christianity has become so hard and so thirsty for many that faint.

To as many as received Him....Something you have to do, by faith. Not automatic. You have to do something. In doing that you get saved and you are given the authority to become a son of God...Again....You get to become a son of God but that takes you doing something. Not automatic.
So Jesus freed us from the curse of the law, when we received salvation, so that the blessings of Abraham could come on us, so that we could receive (an action on our part) the promise of the Spirit by faith. (something we use to receive) Not automatic. We have to receive it by faith. An action on our part.

I don't know anything about Promise Keepers or the like. The Word though says we have doing to do in order to become sons of God. In order to become a part of the Bride. The Word says The bride has made HERSELF ready...It does not say God made the bride ready. So the bride is not automatically ready either....
People need to drop the religious nonsense taught in churches and learn what God wants them to do.
Doing what you are supposed to do is NOT chasing after other Gods..

 

[Bendito]

I trust Jesus Christ to prepare me. I trust Him to keep me from my sins as well as leading me away from temptations and even from making any provisions for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof.

Romans 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Romans 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service..

You said. "
I trust Jesus Christ to prepare me. I trust Him to keep me from my sins as well as leading me away from temptations and even from making any provisions for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof." Meanwhile He's waiting for you to do that....He told YOU to do that...Eschew evil, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling and many other commands for you to do it.
Romans 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Yes! Put your wants and desires aside because its not about you. Its all about the King. We are to put our own desires aside and do what is pleasing to Him!
"I trust Jesus Christ to prepare me. I trust Him to keep me from my sins as well as leading me away from temptations and even from making any provisions for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof."
Again, He says for you to do all that. He's given you the Word there and He said that if you love Him you will obey Him. Instead, you are waiting for Him to do your job? That's not obedience.

 

[JesusIs4Me]

To as many as received Him....Something you have to do, by faith. Not automatic. You have to do something. In doing that you get saved and you are given the authority to become a son of God...Again....You get to become a son of God but that takes you doing something. Not automatic.

Receiving Him is done by believing in Him, even in His name. I point out that no man can come to the Son unless the father draws him ( John 6:44 KJV ) and that it is the Father that reveals His Son to even babes as He can hid the truth from the religious wise ( Matthew 11:25-27 KJV ) even though He does call the religious to come and lean of Him to rest in Him in Matthew 11:28-30 KJV so even our believing in Him is a work of God Himself ( John 3:18-21 KJV )

But I acknowledge the Father's work is how I am believing in Him to be saved.

So Jesus freed us from the curse of the law, when we received salvation, so that the blessings of Abraham could come on us, so that we could receive (an action on our part) the promise of the Spirit by faith. (something we use to receive) Not automatic. We have to receive it by faith. An action on our part.

I just thank the Father in Jesus's name for helping me to see His Son as my God My Savior and how I can be saved through Him by believing in Him.

I don't know anything about Promise Keepers or the like. The Word though says we have doing to do in order to become sons of God. In order to become a part of the Bride. The Word says The bride has made HERSELF ready...It does not say God made the bride ready. So the bride is not automatically ready either....
People need to drop the religious nonsense taught in churches and learn what God wants them to do.
Doing what you are supposed to do is NOT chasing after other Gods..

When I read Hebrews 12:1-2 KJV in how we are to look to the author & finisher of our faith in helping us lay aside every weight & sin in running that race and how our confidence is in the Son to finish His work in us in Philippians 1:6-11 KJV, that is how I know I have come to rest in Jesus Christ for all things that I am saved since I had believed in Him and that I can follow Him by believing He is my Good Shepherd to help me to follow Him as this is part of His glory too in Heaven.

So seeking to fill themselves up with the Holy Ghost after having received Him by knocking at the door of Jesus Christ, makes the Father look evil as if He did not give you the Holy Spirit as promised the first time as warned in Luke 11:9-13 KJV

 

[JesusIs4Me]

You said. "
I trust Jesus Christ to prepare me. I trust Him to keep me from my sins as well as leading me away from temptations and even from making any provisions for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof." Meanwhile He's waiting for you to do that....He told YOU to do that...Eschew evil, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling and many other commands for you to do it.
Romans 12:1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Yes! Put your wants and desires aside because its not about you. Its all about the King. We are to put our own desires aside and do what is pleasing to Him!
"I trust Jesus Christ to prepare me. I trust Him to keep me from my sins as well as leading me away from temptations and even from making any provisions for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof."
Again, He says for you to do all that. He's given you the Word there and He said that if you love Him you will obey Him. Instead, you are waiting for Him to do your job? That's not obedience.

I can only do that with Him helping me to do it for I can do nothing without Him. He said so.

John 15:1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

Anytime I see His words convict me of sin or remind me to stop thinking a certain way, or to do something good, then I can ask Him to help me to do this. Indeed, I rely on Him to remind me of His words to lean on Him for help in following Him and that is what I am doing that He expects me to do and that is trust Him for all things because He is my Good Shepherd & Friend and not just my Savior.

 

[Bill]

Sorry, Bill, but this is myth: Paul's rapture is for the Gentile Church. The 70th week is for Daniel's people: Jews and Hebrews from other tribes. Yes, they are living in Israel today. Paul's rapture will take all those that are In Christ out before the 70th week begins. Therefore most of Revelation is for THEM, not the church.

To be honest its a quote from scripture. About a true Jew is not one being born a Jew , but whose heart is circumcised

 

[Bill]

I'm a Gentile -- not a Jew. I've accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior.

And, speaking of the Jews -- they are God's chosen people. And, yes, there Are two kinds of Jews -- those who chose to follow Old Testament Jewish beliefs and those who are born Jewish. And you are possibly of the belief that the Church is an extension of Israel. Which it is Not. The Church is separate.

That is a scripture quote from the new testiment. A true Jew is one who's heart is circumcised

 

[Bill]

so what part of tribulation are the two witnesses in ? when they die there bodies lie in the street for 3.5 days, when they witness they witness for 3.5 years I think, lots of 3.5 stuff going on in tribulation.

when does the beast come out of the water they speak of?? at the end of 3.5 years or the beginning of tribulation?

thanks

When we look at John the Baptist or Jesus when do we start their timeline . When the actual know ministry takes place , or does their ministry begin well before thier "exposure" in the world

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

As it is, keeping the faith which is the good fight is what He is doing for me

No Friend you got that backwards. You are the subject here. You must "fight the good fight of faith" . It is not done for you.
Blessings

 

[JesusIs4Me]

No Friend you got that backwards. You are the subject here. You must "fight the good fight of faith" . It is not done for you.
Blessings

Not when it comes to "how" I fight the good fight. I do it by believing in Him to help me fight the good fight. That is His glory too.

John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

I can only fight the good fight of faith by my faith in Jesus Christ to help me to do it. Just as it is for me to love my enemies not to return evil for evil but let God have His vengeance in His time as I trust Him to lead me away from temptations and deliver me from the evil one because "Thine is the power and the kingdom and the glory forever.. Amen".

I can do all things through Christ Who strengthens me for I can do nothing without Him. My confidence is on Him to finish His work in me for why His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.... 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
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[Bendito]

Not when it comes to "how" I fight the good fight. I do it by believing in Him to help me fight the good fight. That is His glory too.

John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

I can only fight the good fight of faith by my faith in Jesus Christ to help me to do it. Just as it is for me to love my enemies not to return evil for evil but let God have His vengeance in His time as I trust Him to lead me away from temptations and deliver me from the evil one because "Thine is the power and the kingdom and the glory forever.. Amen".

I can do all things through Christ Who strengthens me for I can do nothing without Him. My confidence is on Him to finish His work in me for why His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.... 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
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So, if I understand you correctly, you want to be a passive warrior. And you've taken all the 'I can be passive' verses out of context, then ignored the 'get off your duff' verses like....
He gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Matthew 10:1

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Matthew 16:19

Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. Luke 9:1

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19

For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:4,5

Neither give place to the devil. Ephesians 4:27

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Ephesians 6:10, 11

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. James 4:7

Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. 1 Peter 5:9

You need the WHOLE Word my friend. Not only your favorite verses so you can hide under your bed until God has done it all for you.

 

[JesusIs4Me]

So, if I understand you correctly, you want to be a passive warrior. And you've taken all the 'I can be passive' verses out of context, then ignored the 'get off your duff' verses like....
He gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Matthew 10:1

Having been assaulted by dark forces whereby I turned to Jesus Christ for help; I am not ashamed of relying totally on Him to resist the devil by His strength. Even when He warned me about the "holy laughter" movement before I came in contact with it in my Aunt's church while vacationing with my folks, I did not know that was what He was warning me about but I trusted Him to keep me from serving something else in His name in seeking the glory of when I am only to be His disciples testifying of Him in seeking His glory. He is faithful to my lack of discernment in 1994. He kept His promise in keeping me from falling. Jude 1:24-25 KJV

So what about you? Have you been going around in the hospitals and mental wards doing all that miracles? If not, I am not sure why you are judging me by that standard.

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Matthew 16:19

Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. Luke 9:1

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Luke 10:19

I would be careful not to apply those verses in testing the Lord because if you pick up a viper to be bitten so as to prove something in the eyes of others of your faith in Him, you will die. Some have done this and have died.

For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds:wink: Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2 Corinthians 10:4,5

Neither give place to the devil. Ephesians 4:27

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Ephesians 6:10, 11

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. James 4:7

Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. 1 Peter 5:9

You need the WHOLE Word my friend. Not only your favorite verses so you can hide under your bed until God has done it all for you.

Those verses have been applied in my life as a testimony of what He has done for me. It is too bad that you see the emphasis on me on how I am doing any of that when I am putting my confidence in Him for how I am doing any of that.

So yes.. I apply the whole word because where you emphasize that I HAVE to do this, I emphasize looking to Him to help me to do it. My strength is in the Lord. The power in following Him is from the Lord for why I live by faith in Him in following Him and that, brother, is how and why little children are free to come to Jesus and that is how they follow Him too by trusting Him at His word that He will help them tp follow Him. So ask Him to understand where I am coming from if you still don't see Him working in my life yet by my testimony of Him and His promises to us.

 

[Bendito]

Having been assaulted by dark forces whereby I turned to Jesus Christ for help; I am not ashamed of relying totally on Him to resist the devil by His strength. Even when He warned me about the "holy laughter" movement before I came in contact with it in my Aunt's church while vacationing with my folks, I did not know that was what He was warning me about but I trusted Him to keep me from serving something else in His name in seeking the glory of when I am only to be His disciples testifying of Him in seeking His glory. He is faithful to my lack of discernment in 1994. He kept His promise in keeping me from falling. Jude 1:24-25 KJV

So what about you? Have you been going around in the hospitals and mental wards doing all that miracles? If not, I am not sure why you are judging me by that standard.



I would be careful not to apply those verses in testing the Lord because if you pick up a viper to be bitten so as to prove something in the eyes of others of your faith in Him, you will die. Some have done this and have died.



Those verses have been applied in my life as a testimony of what He has done for me. It is too bad that you see the emphasis on me on how I am doing any of that when I am putting my confidence in Him for how I am doing any of that.

So yes.. I apply the whole word because where you emphasize that I HAVE to do this, I emphasize looking to Him to help me to do it. My strength is in the Lord. The power in following Him is from the Lord for why I live by faith in Him in following Him and that, brother, is how and why little children are free to come to Jesus and that is how they follow Him too by trusting Him at His word that He will help them tp follow Him. So ask Him to understand where I am coming from if you still don't see Him working in my life yet by my testimony of Him and His promises to us.

Good! Rely totally on Him. You need to do that. But you do not need to rely totally on Him and disobey in other areas. Jesus said to kick Satans butt and you do not do that by hiding in a closet. Get out there and enjoy your life as a warrior. He will not resist the devil for you. He told YOU to do that. It's good that He's teaching you and that you're learning...I don't even know what this 'holy laughter' is. And its good that your confidence is in Him...but obedience to His Word is vital.
Me? He has not sent me to hospitals...And you do not go where you are not sent. I am not judging you at all. I'm simply saying that we have doing to do, and if we do not do it, but live in disobedience, we will miss out on the rapture and thereby miss out on being part of the bride.
If you don't want my input, ok. It's your choice. I'll still share on here and you can simply ignore me.

 

[JesusIs4Me]

Good! Rely totally on Him. You need to do that. But you do not need to rely totally on Him and disobey in other areas. Jesus said to kick Satans butt and you do not do that by hiding in a closet. Get out there and enjoy your life as a warrior. He will not resist the devil for you. He told YOU to do that.

There are real people persecuting me in a fashion that is unbelievable. I had dreamt this when I was a tot. I had dreamt this again in high school. I did not know they were prophetic dreams until they started coming true. So I apply this;

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

And I have been punished way too many times to ignore this as impossible any more. My enemies are too powerful as they sow discord among brethren and people I work with and for, and when driving me out, they sow discord among family members. I am blessed by the Lord that my folks still want me around, even though I see evidence of my enemies coming into our home and stealing stuff, switching out stuff and knowing when I go out to cause trouble for me at the places I go to like the theaters and restaurants. It is like I am a sport and that is why I feel like I can relate to the Psalmists when they testify to such a scenario,

I thank the Lord for His provision. I did not think He wanted me on it when I had applied to Social Security Disability, but after I had applied, I went to the mall when I heard the Hallelujah chorus for when He had changed my mind. I feel like my mind is an open book to hypocritical mockers as they watch my every step to defraud me and to mess with me and that I can be a victim of identity theft at any moment, but even if I find myself homeless, I trust Him to take care of me.

It's good that He's teaching you and that you're learning...I don't even know what this 'holy laughter' is. And its good that your confidence is in Him...but obedience to His Word is vital.
Me? He has not sent me to hospitals...And you do not go where you are not sent. I am not judging you at all. I'm simply saying that we have doing to do, and if we do not do it, but live in disobedience, we will miss out on the rapture and thereby miss out on being part of the bride.
If you don't want my input, ok. It's your choice. I'll still share on here and you can simply ignore me.

I appreciate your input and advise, but there are some things that you have to be there and in my shoes to believe it as happening because my mind says it is impossible, but when you remove the probable, no matter how impossible it is, then it has to be true. Having those prophetic dreams the way I have been having them.... and there were others that had come true... well, He reminds me of them that He is in control and that He is My Friend and He is taking care of me regardless.

I do not glory in them because when I was a tot, I had seen the book that Jesus showed me of my adult sins in the future, and I was grieved because I did not want to be separate from Jesus, but my folks and others standing behind them were screaming in grief for me to come back. Stupid that I had forgotten it and yet when everything was coming together, there I was in uncleanness. Jesus knew how I felt though I said nothing in my grief in that dream as a tot, and He said "I will see what I can do." He has done great things for me. I can sing Amazing Grace of all those verses in truth because of Him as the word grace in what He has done for me, might as well be Christ in some of the lyrics in those verses.

This life is overwhelming me and I would have come to a halt if it wasn't for Him in me being my Friend in helping me walk thru this valley of death together. I do wish I was more mindful and thus more thankful for Him but He knows, but He helps me not to let things get to me and to learn to use Him as my refuge in the storms of my life.

 

[Bendito]

There are real people persecuting me in a fashion that is unbelievable. I had dreamt this when I was a tot. I had dreamt this again in high school. I did not know they were prophetic dreams until they started coming true. So I apply this;

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

And I have been punished way too many times to ignore this as impossible any more. My enemies are too powerful as they sow discord among brethren and people I work with and for, and when driving me out, they sow discord among family members. I am blessed by the Lord that my folks still want me around, even though I see evidence of my enemies coming into our home and stealing stuff, switching out stuff and knowing when I go out to cause trouble for me at the places I go to like the theaters and restaurants. It is like I am a sport and that is why I feel like I can relate to the Psalmists when they testify to such a scenario,

I thank the Lord for His provision. I did not think He wanted me on it when I had applied to Social Security Disability, but after I had applied, I went to the mall when I heard the Hallelujah chorus for when He had changed my mind. I feel like my mind is an open book to hypocritical mockers as they watch my every step to defraud me and to mess with me and that I can be a victim of identity theft at any moment, but even if I find myself homeless, I trust Him to take care of me.



I appreciate your input and advise, but there are some things that you have to be there and in my shoes to believe it as happening because my mind says it is impossible, but when you remove the probable, no matter how impossible it is, then it has to be true. Having those prophetic dreams the way I have been having them.... and there were others that had come true... well, He reminds me of them that He is in control and that He is My Friend and He is taking care of me regardless.

I do not glory in them because when I was a tot, I had seen the book that Jesus showed me of my adult sins in the future, and I was grieved because I did not want to be separate from Jesus, but my folks and others standing behind them were screaming in grief for me to come back. Stupid that I had forgotten it and yet when everything was coming together, there I was in uncleanness. Jesus knew how I felt though I said nothing in my grief in that dream as a tot, and He said "I will see what I can do." He has done great things for me. I can sing Amazing Grace of all those verses in truth because of Him as the word grace in what He has done for me, might as well be Christ in some of the lyrics in those verses.

This life is overwhelming me and I would have come to a halt if it wasn't for Him in me being my Friend in helping me walk thru this valley of death together. I do wish I was more mindful and thus more thankful for Him but He knows, but He helps me not to let things get to me and to learn to use Him as my refuge in the storms of my life.

Fine...I'm just telling you that you have rights and authorities that you do not seem willing to use. Weapons for use on the enemy that seem to be gathering dust. If you want to keep those weapons bright and shiny like souvenirs I guess that's what you'll do.

 

[JesusIs4Me]

Fine...I'm just telling you that you have rights and authorities that you do not seem willing to use. Weapons for use on the enemy that seem to be gathering dust. If you want to keep those weapons bright and shiny like souvenirs I guess that's what you'll do.

1 Corinthians 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

1 Peter 2:19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

It is not possible to live peaceably with all men and since it was prophesied in dreams as this was how my life was going to be, then I am thankful for Him helping me to put my trust in Him that He is still Lord and will always take care of me..

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Not when it comes to "how" I fight the good fight. I do it by believing in Him to help me fight the good fight. That is His glory too.

John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

I can only fight the good fight of faith by my faith in Jesus Christ to help me to do it. Just as it is for me to love my enemies not to return evil for evil but let God have His vengeance in His time as I trust Him to lead me away from temptations and deliver me from the evil one because "Thine is the power and the kingdom and the glory forever.. Amen".

I can do all things through Christ Who strengthens me for I can do nothing without Him. My confidence is on Him to finish His work in me for why His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.... 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
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What do you consider the good fight of faith?

I don't think we are talking about the same thing .
Blessings

 

[JesusIs4Me]

What do you consider the good fight of faith?

I don't think we are talking about the same thing .
Blessings

Since 1 Timothy 4:1-2 KJV prophesied that many will depart from faith in giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, that is one fight in keeping the faith that there is no receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation because He is in us as Spirit-filled as a testimony from God in us that we are saved so we can tell others the Good News about Jesus Christ because He IS Our Savior.

There are other types of fights in keeping the faith in Jesus Christ as you should know. I am sure there are some you are not aware of like Billy Graham's and now Franklin Graham's altar that if you are not sure you are saved, to come forward to make a commitment to follow Christ as if that is how any one is saved which is the opposite of the gospel they had both preached which is any one that calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Discipleship is separate from salvation and it has to be done by His disciples teaching new believers to learn how Jesus Christ is our Good Shepherd that we can trust Him to help us to follow Him by His power and by His words in the KJV thus by faith alone as His disciples. Running that race to look to the author & finisher of our faith to help us lay aside every weight & sin is about abiding in Him as His discipleship so that we may bear fruit and our joy may be full, but salvation has been obtained in order for them to have Jesus Christ in them to be able to run that race at all.

As if that vain yoke of bondage was not enough, men got ensnared by the Promise Keeper's movement to make promises to be good husbands and good fathers and good church leaders and so forth whereby they give grace to themselves by saying God gives this grace for them to keep trying and yet still call themselves Promise Keepers. God does not give grace for us to live in sin, period. We either trust Him as our Good Shepherd to help us to follow Him by faith alone or we are resorting to our own power in living the Christian life which is a false witness because it is about testifying of themselves as Promise Keepers when they are not. The same goes for those who claim to be keeping their commitment to follow Christ, giving grace to themselves when they sin but judgment to others as if they are not a Christian or not saved when they sin.

Then there is that evolution theory that has caused many not to believe in the Bible and Jesus Christ altogether. That false science overthrew many believer's faith as they never knew that it is a false science and never a valid theory like the theory of gravity because macroevolution is a phenomenon not observed in the natural world. You try to pin the evolutionist to that definition they are using, and they will keep evading it in one form or fashion by belittling to our intelligence as if we just did not catch them in a lie.

So there are many types of fighting the good fight in keeping the faith in Jesus Christ; and there may even be some I still do not know about that is causing brethren to not believe in Him any more or fall away from the faith that is Jesus Christ to something else in His name and not even know it, but that is my understanding of it, brother.

What is your understanding of what fighting the good fight is in keeping the faith in Jesus Christ?