What is Easter, and why do Christians celebrate this holiday?

[Sue D.]

Ivar -- okay -- my age -- I'm 69 yrs. old.

The verse you shared means that God doesn't need time -- He created 'time' for mankind. Mankind -- you and I live 'time' one day at a time.

You'd named all the religions you'd been believing at one time or another. They all have different beliefs. You said they all tossed you to and fro. So -- as a result -- you studied for a long time to get where you are today.
So -- where Are you today?

The James passage -- that's true. Those works are Not to enable your salvation. They are to Show your salvation. There's a difference. A real believer will be showing in his life the fruits of the Holy Spirit that has come to indwell him / her.

A Father is different than a Husband. God the Father is Not my husband. The RCC does teach that a Nun is 'married' to God or Jesus. Nothing Biblical about that. And I'm not a Nun so that would not apply to me.

The basics of salvation and Then comes spiritual growth. But Biblical salvation does Not include works. And, yes, if we love God we will want to obey His Word. It becomes natural for the believer. There Are many things that a believer Will do 'automatically' simply because the Holy Spirit puts that desire in our hearts.

Since you believe that being saved requires both following the law And the cross, I'm simply sharing that it's only the cross that's necessary as the Ephesians passage states. No works are needed.

Sounds like you're still waiting for Christ to come. He's already come. In the form of the baby in the manger. The Jewish world has not accepted Jesus Christ's birth as His coming.

My grandmother didn't like Christianity because it was a bloody religion to her. It is indeed a bloody religion Because Jesus Christ shed His blood on the cross to wash away our sins.

Thousands of Christians have been martyred over the centuries because they stood up For God.

There ARE belief systems that have no problem killing Christians or any other belief system that does not bow down to them. A person who does Not convert to Their system Will die by their own word.

And -- apparently you believe that Joseph is Jesus' biological father which would mean that Jesus - his son - was no more than any other Jewish boy being born. Which is Also meaning that you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God's Son.
Which also suggests that you don't believe in the virgin birth.

Which also suggests that you don't believe the basic tenents of Christianity. Which also means that you and I have nothing more to talk about.

 

[Ivar]

Ivar -- okay -- my age -- I'm 69 yrs. old.

The verse you shared means that God doesn't need time -- He created 'time' for mankind. Mankind -- you and I live 'time' one day at a time.

You'd named all the religions you'd been believing at one time or another. They all have different beliefs. You said they all tossed you to and fro. So -- as a result -- you studied for a long time to get where you are today.
So -- where Are you today?

The James passage -- that's true. Those works are Not to enable your salvation. They are to Show your salvation. There's a difference. A real believer will be showing in his life the fruits of the Holy Spirit that has come to indwell him / her.

A Father is different than a Husband. God the Father is Not my husband. The RCC does teach that a Nun is 'married' to God or Jesus. Nothing Biblical about that. And I'm not a Nun so that would not apply to me.

The basics of salvation and Then comes spiritual growth. But Biblical salvation does Not include works. And, yes, if we love God we will want to obey His Word. It becomes natural for the believer. There Are many things that a believer Will do 'automatically' simply because the Holy Spirit puts that desire in our hearts.

Since you believe that being saved requires both following the law And the cross, I'm simply sharing that it's only the cross that's necessary as the Ephesians passage states. No works are needed.

Sounds like you're still waiting for Christ to come. He's already come. In the form of the baby in the manger. The Jewish world has not accepted Jesus Christ's birth as His coming.

My grandmother didn't like Christianity because it was a bloody religion to her. It is indeed a bloody religion Because Jesus Christ shed His blood on the cross to wash away our sins.

Thousands of Christians have been martyred over the centuries because they stood up For God.

There ARE belief systems that have no problem killing Christians or any other belief system that does not bow down to them. A person who does Not convert to Their system Will die by their own word.

And -- apparently you believe that Joseph is Jesus' biological father which would mean that Jesus - his son - was no more than any other Jewish boy being born. Which is Also meaning that you don't believe that Jesus Christ is God's Son.
Which also suggests that you don't believe in the virgin birth.

Which also suggests that you don't believe the basic tenents of Christianity. Which also means that you and I have nothing more to talk about.

@Sue D.
1. No be not ignorant of this one thing that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. "straightforward"

FYI: Day and Years = Time or a Measurement of Time "so you know"
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2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Time was created 5 days or 5000 years prior ; Before Adam even came on the scene.
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2. You would deny The Father of Creation and only true Provider and Protector of the Heavens and the Earth!!!????
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3. Is more of what scriptures say. The Father sent both Moses & Christ and he does not change.
One brought the commandment of The Father while one brought the Faith of The Father.

Exo 3:12 And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.
Exo 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Joh 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Joh 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
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4. Your Grandmother is wise.

Examples of forced conversion to Christianity include: the Christian persecution of paganism under Theodosius I, the forced conversion and violent assimilation of pagan tribes in medieval Europe, the Inquisition, including its manifestations in Goa, Mexico, Portugal, and Spain, the forced conversion of indigenous children in North America and Australia, and, since 1992, the forced conversion of Hindusin Northeast India

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5. Yet you don't mention it was mainly so called Christians killing so called Christians. Some of those same martyrs kept the sabbath day, were nontrinitarian, etc.

Last time I checked the RCC was born of the 4th Beast.
I have even heard reports of unordained and unnatural intimacy on the highest "known and unknown" levels.
Strong rumors even have it that they played a pivotal role in the creation of Islam to weaken the true faith and believers;
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6. Untrue; it is yourself that is of the perception that Joseph being the Father according to the Flesh makes him not the Son of God or diminishes that fact. Yet it is OK for his mother to be Mary when the female was deceived and in the transgression.

Adam is also Son of God. The difference between Adam and Christ is that Christ is the Only begotten of The Father and Firstborn of all Creation.

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

1Jn 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
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7. Mary was mentioned as being a virgin but not a virgin of her virginity but I don't expect you to understand.

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8. Sure I don't mind you ending the conversation; However if you do respond I will more than likely respond. God Willing. :grin:

 

[Ivar]

@Sue D.

Breaking News
Concerning Easter; I just checked the schoolmaster regarding these rabbits.

KJV Leviticus 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

NASB Leviticus 11:6 the rabbit also, for though it chews cud, it does not divide the hoof, it is unclean to you;

Why it gotta be an unclean animal you guys using? Isn't that adding insult to injury?
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However I understand

Jer 44:16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee.

Jer 44:17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
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Also is for the children?

Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

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[Sue D.]

Ivar -- I don't think I said I agree with the easter rabbit tradition. Because I never have. So the rabbit is an unclean animal. Isn't it Also true that in the New Testament that Peter was presented in a dream a blanket with all sorts of animals for him to eat. His response was that some were unclean and didn't want to eat them. He was told that all of them were okay to eat. What God said was okay, was okay.

People go rabbit hunting within legal season as well as deer. My husband grew up very poor and what they went hunting for was for eating. Lots of people go deer hunting, too. People up north sort of grow up on deer meet. For me, though, it's kind of dry meet.

As for Mary being the mother of Jesus. She was chosen by God to be Jesus' mother. The Holy Spirit came upon her and she conceived. Joseph was only the Legal Jewish father of Jesus. Not the biological.

Your #7 Mary being a virgin but not a virgin of her virginity. Maybe meaning that she was indeed a virgin as any woman is who has never had sex. But Mary, herself asked the angel how she could possibly become a mother when she had never known a man. She was very aware of basic biology -- a man and woman are required to produce a baby. And the angel Also assured Joseph that she was still a virgin -- no need to divorce her even privately. And Scripture says that Joseph didn't know Mary until after Jesus had been born. So it was the Holy Spirit coming upon her -- a miraculous pregnancy -- never to happen again.

So -- whatever you choose to do with those comments.

I'm kind of surprised you haven't been banned.

 

[Sue D.]

Just out of curiosity -- you said you did a lot of studying of Scripture -- on your Own or with a group.

 

[Ivar]

Just out of curiosity -- you said you did a lot of studying of Scripture -- on your Own or with a group.

@Sue D.

Both. I also paid for a three month course and got an overview of the Hebrew language. Going to work on response for your message # 64 now.

 

[Ivar]

Ivar --

People go rabbit hunting within legal season as well as deer. My husband grew up very poor and what they went hunting for was for eating. Lots of people go deer hunting, too. People up north sort of grow up on deer meet. For me, though, it's kind of dry meet.

As for Mary being the mother of Jesus. She was chosen by God to be Jesus' mother. The Holy Spirit came upon her and she conceived. Joseph was only the Legal Jewish father of Jesus. Not the biological.

Your #7 Mary being a virgin but not a virgin of her virginity. Maybe meaning that she was indeed a virgin as any woman is who has never had sex. But Mary, herself asked the angel how she could possibly become a mother when she had never known a man. She was very aware of basic biology -- a man and woman are required to produce a baby. And the angel Also assured Joseph that she was still a virgin -- no need to divorce her even privately. And Scripture says that Joseph didn't know Mary until after Jesus had been born. So it was the Holy Spirit coming upon her -- a miraculous pregnancy -- never to happen again.

So -- whatever you choose to do with those comments.

I'm kind of surprised you haven't been banned.

@Sue D.

Your Response:
I don't think I said I agree with the easter rabbit tradition. Because I never have. So the rabbit is an unclean animal. Isn't it Also true that in the New Testament that Peter was presented in a dream a blanket with all sorts of animals for him to eat. His response was that some were unclean and didn't want to eat them. He was told that all of them were okay to eat. What God said was okay, was okay.

My Response:
You don't agree yet you seem to defend it using the dream that Peter had. Should I trust your words/faith or should I trust your actions/works which reveals ones faith according to James?
Let me give you the understanding of that dream

Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. "which you seem to have did"
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Your Response:
As for Mary being the mother of Jesus. She was chosen by God to be Jesus' mother. The Holy Spirit came upon her and she conceived. Joseph was only the Legal Jewish father of Jesus. Not the biological.

My Response:
Concerning the Immaculate Conspiracy and Joseph being the Father according the Flesh; Like I state before I have addressed them here. No need for myself to rehash it in an unrelated post.
Proving Joseph The Father according to Flesh
Premise on Joseph/ Jesus relation
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Your Response:

I'm kind of surprised you haven't been banned.

My Response:
:grin:
Perhaps only thing we agree on; However

There are those on here who perceive my words to be more subtil than any beast of the field.

Mat 10:12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.
Mat 10:13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Mat 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
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[Ivar]

@Sue D.
You told me you believe Christ was in the Earth for three days; Yet You also told me you believe in Easter Sunday.

I did some digging and something don't add up.

Since Christ was mentioned in the schoolmaster but I could not find Easter Celebration in the schoolmaster. I had to look elsewhere. This information is from BBC
Why do we have Easter eggs and the Easter bunny? - CBBC Newsround

"Easter is a Christian festival that celebrates the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The Bible says that Christ died on the cross on a day called Good Friday, which this year falls on 30 March.

Then he resurrected and came back to life on Easter Sunday."



Ok I am pretending this is all accurate. Died Good Friday Afternoon and Resurrected Easter Sunday.
Let's say he died 6:00 PM Friday Sunset and Mary Magdalene visited 6:00 am prior to Sunrise.
Actually let's say she visited 6:15 am prior to sunrise instead and that Christ rose 6:00 am on Sunday; 15 minutes prior to when Mary Magdalene visited.
Christ would have only been in the earth no longer than 1 day and 12 hours according to your Easter celebration.

Here is my Source:
Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results
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Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

 

[Ivar]

@Sue D.
"Currently trying to use Apologetics"
I incorporated the heathen standards of a day being from Midnight to Evening instead of Evening to Morning. Also I attempted to gain maximum time duration.

So to be fair and gain maximum bang for our buck; Lets say Christ died Good Friday 12:00 AM. And even though Mary Magdalene is said to have visited him early and prior to sunrise let's say she visited the tomb Easter Sunday at 11:59:59 PM prior to the day changing to Monday.
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Source:

Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results
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Here are the Results

From: Friday, October 26, 2018 at 12:00:00 midnight
To: Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 11:59:59 pm
Result: 2 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds
The duration is 2 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds
Or 2 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds
Alternative time units
2 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds can be converted to one of these units:

• 259,199 seconds
• 4319 minutes (rounded down)
• 71 hours (rounded down)
• 2 days (rounded down)
• 0.82% of 2018

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Still seems to be missing an iota.
Unable to get three days in the most extreme circumstances
If is because I am using the wrong Friday and the wrong Sunday let me know the specifics so i can calculate the right ones.
Maybe the Friday I have to use is a good one.
Please let me know.
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2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

[Sue D.]

Ivar -- for one thing the Bible does not hold to Good Friday -- The RCC does. I never have. Because a person Can't get the three days and three nights by going to Good Friday. It would need to be sometime Thursday.

You come across as a self-proclaimed authority on Scriptural passages. For instance -- the passage about Peter's dream concerning clean and unclean animals. You were giving me Your understanding of that dream, as though I can trust Your explanation above all else. That is an attitude I don't care for in anyone. I have a lot of Bible study in my background , but I'd never come out and suggest I'm any kind of authority.

I've been in Bible all my life -- same denomination all those years. And have been a born-again believer since early junior-high years. Conservative Baptist. No Where has works Ever been included in salvation. Jesus Christ did everything necessary For our salvation on the cross. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that who so ever believeth on Him will not perish but have everlasting life."

And you Might want to consider the thief on the cross. He did what was necessary for salvation -- Jesus Christ told him that That very day, He would be with him in Paradise. And certainly that thief had No good works to help him.

No doubt there are those who are in total agreement with you. I just don't happen to be one of them.

 

[Ivar]

Ivar -- for one thing the Bible does not hold to Good Friday -- The RCC does. I never have. Because a person Can't get the three days and three nights by going to Good Friday. It would need to be sometime Thursday.

You come across as a self-proclaimed authority on Scriptural passages. For instance -- the passage about Peter's dream concerning clean and unclean animals. You were giving me Your understanding of that dream, as though I can trust Your explanation above all else. That is an attitude I don't care for in anyone. I have a lot of Bible study in my background , but I'd never come out and suggest I'm any kind of authority.

I've been in Bible all my life -- same denomination all those years. And have been a born-again believer since early junior-high years. Conservative Baptist. No Where has works Ever been included in salvation. Jesus Christ did everything necessary For our salvation on the cross. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that who so ever believeth on Him will not perish but have everlasting life."

And you Might want to consider the thief on the cross. He did what was necessary for salvation -- Jesus Christ told him that That very day, He would be with him in Paradise. And certainly that thief had No good works to help him.

No doubt there are those who are in total agreement with you. I just don't happen to be one of them.

Your Response:
for one thing the Bible does not hold to Good Friday -- The RCC does. I never have. Because a person Can't get the three days and three nights by going to Good Friday. It would need to be sometime Thursday.

My Response:
Are you sure you can do that? Easter is Good Friday and Easter Sunday. To my knowledge is a package deal. Is like a man marrying a single mother. The mother and the children are a package deal? Am I wrong? Can you refer to me any of your sources of Good Thursday and Easter Sunday or something along those affairs?
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Either way you are still incorrect concerning Thursday and here is why:
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mat 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Daily Bible Study - Hours Of The Day
Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results

You still short 8 hours and the problem is that without the school master you will stumble. You need college textbook in this regard

From: Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 3:00:00 pm
To: Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:00:00 am
Result: 2 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds
The duration is 2 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds
Or 2 days, 16 hours
Alternative time units
2 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds can be converted to one of these units:

• 230,400 seconds
• 3840 minutes
• 64 hours
• 2 days (rounded down)

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Your Response:
You come across as a self-proclaimed authority on Scriptural passages. For instance -- the passage about Peter's dream concerning clean and unclean animals. You were giving me Your understanding of that dream, as though I can trust Your explanation above all else. That is an attitude I don't care for in anyone. I have a lot of Bible study in my background , but I'd never come out and suggest I'm any kind of authority.

• My Response:
• End of The Matter; Is the Acts 10:28 highlighted portion the correct interpretation of Peter's dream on meats? Yay or Nay?
• Be honest are you mad at me or Acts 10:28?

Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

How did God show peter that he should not call any man common or unclean? Was an Iphone used? Twitter? Share the wisdom please.
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Your Respones:
I've been in Bible all my life -- same denomination all those years. And have been a born-again believer since early junior-high years. Conservative Baptist. No Where has works Ever been included in salvation. Jesus Christ did everything necessary For our salvation on the cross. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that who so ever believeth on Him will not perish but have everlasting life."

My Response:
Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Mar 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err

Your Response:
And you Might want to consider the thief on the cross. He did what was necessary for salvation -- Jesus Christ told him that That very day, He would be with him in Paradise. And certainly that thief had No good works to help him.

My Response:
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.


Your Response:
No doubt there are those who are in total agreement with you. I just don't happen to be one of them.

My Response:
Act 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
Act 23:7 And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided.
Act 23:8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.
Act 23:9 And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.
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Act 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

 

[Ivar]

@Sue D.

certain answers more accurate. try not to be respecter of persons / answers ; filter out the leaven if you can however school master always makes things easier. :smile:


When was Easter first celebrated http://www.answers.com/Q/When_was_Easter_first_celebrated

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Hos 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Hos 6:7 But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me.
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Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

 

[Sue D.]

Ivar -- you keep referring to the 'school master'. Aren't you referring to the Holy Spirit?

Re: Acts 10: 9 - 16 ---- God does not show favoritism and neither are we supposed to. Clean or unclean food -- God says it's okay to eat of -- so we can, too. That's in regard to the easter bunny. Though it's the easter Egg that the kids like to hunt for that have been hidden by adults for the kids to have some fun finding.

You give the impression that when a person is rightly dividing the Word of Truth -- they will be agreeing with you. So -- apparently -- since I'm not agreeing with lots of things you're saying -- apparently I'm not rightly dividing the Word.

I'd heard that some time ago from another man who was determined that his interpretation of God's Word was right because He knew he was rightly understanding God's Word. Since the Holy Spirit was directing him in a certain direction of belief, anyone else was wrong if they disagreed.

Okay -- let's try this again -- the way we live will show our inner beliefs -- but the way we live does Not earn our way to heaven. Our inner beliefs are reflected in our daily lives -- the things we do. Our actions. But all of that is the result OF our salvation -- Not the cause of it.

 

[Sue D.]

I simply don't agree with how you interpret some Scripture.

You said you've gained your Bible knowledge through some Bible courses you've taken and an overview of Hebrew as a language.

And, yes, it Would be interesting to know how old you are.

 

[Ivar]

Ivar -- you keep referring to the 'school master'. Aren't you referring to the Holy Spirit?

Re: Acts 10: 9 - 16 ---- God does not show favoritism and neither are we supposed to. Clean or unclean food -- God says it's okay to eat of -- so we can, too. That's in regard to the easter bunny. Though it's the easter Egg that the kids like to hunt for that have been hidden by adults for the kids to have some fun finding.

You give the impression that when a person is rightly dividing the Word of Truth -- they will be agreeing with you. So -- apparently -- since I'm not agreeing with lots of things you're saying -- apparently I'm not rightly dividing the Word.

I'd heard that some time ago from another man who was determined that his interpretation of God's Word was right because He knew he was rightly understanding God's Word. Since the Holy Spirit was directing him in a certain direction of belief, anyone else was wrong if they disagreed.

Okay -- let's try this again -- the way we live will show our inner beliefs -- but the way we live does Not earn our way to heaven. Our inner beliefs are reflected in our daily lives -- the things we do. Our actions. But all of that is the result OF our salvation -- Not the cause of it.

@Sue D.
Your Response
Re: Acts 10: 9 - 16 ---- God does not show favoritism and neither are we supposed to. Clean or unclean food -- God says it's okay to eat of -- so we can, too. That's in regard to the easter bunny. Though it's the easter Egg that the kids like to hunt for that have been hidden by adults for the kids to have some fun finding.

My Response
Read verses 17 to 28
Act 10:17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,
Act 10:18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
Act 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.
Act 10:20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.
Act 10:21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?
Act 10:22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
Act 10:23 Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
Act 10:24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends.
Act 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
Act 10:26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
Act 10:27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.
Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Also go all the way back up to verse 1 and notice that Acts Chapter 10 is about Cornelius the gentile who Peter was of the understanding that Gentiles of another nation are common or unclean; Prior to the trance / vision. After he met Cornelius he put two and two together. Pretty Straightforward.

Act 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,


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Your Response
You give the impression that when a person is rightly dividing the Word of Truth -- they will be agreeing with you. So -- apparently -- since I'm not agreeing with lots of things you're saying -- apparently I'm not rightly dividing the Word.

My Response
If I do perhaps because I am conforming my words to The Word / Scripture.
I have no choice since it offends. :crying:
I may also be labeled scriptural extremist around these parts but that sounds like one of the nicer titles at least:smile:.
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Your Response:
Okay -- let's try this again -- the way we live will show our inner beliefs -- but the way we live does Not earn our way to heaven. Our inner beliefs are reflected in our daily lives -- the things we do. Our actions. But all of that is the result OF our salvation -- Not the cause of it.

My Response;
It only seems that way because of Paul's words however in the grand scheme of things; it is both.
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Your Response:
I simply don't agree with how you interpret some Scripture.
You said you've gained your Bible knowledge through some Bible courses you've taken and an overview of Hebrew as a language.
And, yes, it Would be interesting to know how old you are.

My Response:
I am of the same age of Christ when he started his ministry.
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[Ivar]

@Sue D.

I noticed you have not addressed on # 71 a particular response i wanted you to address so I will repost it.
Also you can disregard this link When was Easter first celebrated http://www.answers.com/Q/When_was_Easter_first_celebrated

In my next post "Ahayah Willing"; I intend to crucify Easter and nail it to cross in this forum.

Prior to that I want to bring up again the following below and see if you may have any words;
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Either way you are still incorrect concerning Thursday and here is why:
Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mar 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mat 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Daily Bible Study - Hours Of The Day
Calculate Duration Between Two Dates – Results

You still short 8 hours and the problem is that without the school master you will stumble. You need college textbook in this regard

From: Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 3:00:00 pm
To: Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:00:00 am
Result: 2 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds
The duration is 2 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds
Or 2 days, 16 hours
Alternative time units
2 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes and 0 seconds can be converted to one of these units:

• 230,400 seconds
• 3840 minutes
• 64 hours
• 2 days (rounded down)

 

[Sue D.]

Ivar -- this discussion has been somewhat interesting, but I'll let you continue with someone else.

 

[Sue D.]

This morning I've come across a passage in Ephesians 2 : 10-22 for context -- "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them....... but now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near b the blood of Christ. For He, Himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in His flesh the dividing walls of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that He might create in Himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace. And might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross , thereby killing the hostility...... For through Him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father....... built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus , Himself being the cornerstone, In whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord......"

For the believer, God has good works prepared for us to do. We don't Do good works to get To God the Father.

Are you by any chance a man who believes that since it was Eve -- a woman -- who was deceived by satan -- that anything a woman says / does is Probably not correct -- needs to be corrected by a 'Christian' man.

 

[Ivar]

Ivar -- this discussion has been somewhat interesting, but I'll let you continue with someone else.

@Sue D.


Based off my most recent response and your subsequent response; I imagine

Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

also the following scriptures come to mind
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2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2Pe 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Jer 17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Jer 17:11 As the partridge sitteth on eggs, and hatcheth them not; so he that getteth riches, and not by right, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a fool.

1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
1Sa 15:24 And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

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Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Act 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
Act 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Isa 29:15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
Isa 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

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Mat 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

 

[Sue D.]

Ivar -- Whatever ---I will now really leave this discussion to someone else.