What is Sin & is it OK to be Sin Free?

[At Peace]

No, not at all! I have believed that way for many years.
What do you think has changed?

When I first started posting about living without sin, folks were quite resistant.
But of late, several have started to manifest agreement.
I don't recall any specifics regarding your reaction to my earlier posts so don't consider this any sort of accusation.
I pray that the Lord will continue to shed His grace on your efforts to remain free from sin, in Jesus' name..

 

[KingJ]

Enoch didn't "die", and neither did Abraham, Jacob, Isaac or Elijah.

All have fallen short. Are you suggesting they did not have Adam's sin / need Jesus to wash them clean? They were perfect without Jesus?

The Abraham's bosom story was a parable, intended to teach a moral, ie...no unrighteous men will be allowed into heaven. If "the hearts are good", they wouldn't sometimes be evil.

The story of Lazaurs is never called a parable. Jesus uses an actual name. He is also pretty descriptive, take Luke 16:22 as an example 'And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom'.

AB is also logical. People only qualify for God's presence once washed by the blood of Jesus. So if you want to be pedantic and say they went to heaven not a nice part of Hades with a great divide, then you have to concede to the fact that that part of heaven was not God's actual presence. Because we know what happened to Moses in God's presence without Jesus.

When I first started posting about living without sin, folks were quite resistant.

No sins today? No anger? No jealousy? No envy? No gluttony? No immoral thoughts? No hatred? No cursing? No pride?

You and I can say. No murder. No adultery. No stealing. We are to daily work our salvation in fear and trembling Phil 2:12.

Judging ourselves harshly and being quick to repent is Christianity 101.

 

[Dave M]

No sins today? No anger? No jealousy? No envy? No gluttony? No immoral thoughts? No hatred? No cursing? No pride?

You and I can say. No murder. No adultery. No stealing. We are to daily work our salvation in fear and trembling Phil 2:12.

Judging ourselves harshly and being quick to repent is Christianity 101.

KingJ I thinnk a lot of people on here have a human standard they use to judge if they have sinned, when we use a holly standard we all fall short, take lyiing for instance just the other day I was asked a question and I gave what I beleived to be the correct answer however later that day I thought on the subject a little more and I missed a few facts on the answer I gave, now I did not intentionally do this but i did do it never the less that is a lye.

what about if you worry about something is that a sin?

what about just being rude to someone is that a sin? that seems to happen a lot around here lately

what about not being patient with someone is that a sin?

Love your neighbor as yourself, do people have any idea how that really looks, what have you done for someone else today is a question that we should all be asking ourselves daily IMO do you get excited when someone ask you for help or do you dread it ???

 

[amadeus2]

When I first started posting about living without sin, folks were quite resistant.
But of late, several have started to manifest agreement.
I don't recall any specifics regarding your reaction to my earlier posts so don't consider this any sort of accusation.
I pray that the Lord will continue to shed His grace on your efforts to remain free from sin, in Jesus' name..

I believe that God intends for us to strive always to live without sin. Can we do it? Not alone, but...

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." Mark 10:27

For me or you in our flesh without God it is indeed impossible, but who is to be in us?

"To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory" Col 1:27

Is it not the work of the Holy Ghost in us to clean the garbage out so that it can replaced in every part of us with good? What happens is we don't allow it is seen here:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
Mat 12:44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
Mat 12:45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

When a person repent the cleansing begins, but if the old corruption is not replaced with the new and incorruptible then we could expect to see the seven more wicked spirits taken in...

"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30

To say that it is impossible for a man to live without sin, even a Holy Ghost filled man, is, I believe, to call Jesus a liar.

Jesus did not come for nothing and the Holy Ghost was not sent to us for nothing.

 

[KingJ]

KingJ I thinnk a lot of people on here have a human standard they use to judge if they have sinned, when we use a holly standard we all fall short, take lyiing for instance just the other day I was asked a question and I gave what I beleived to be the correct answer however later that day I thought on the subject a little more and I missed a few facts on the answer I gave, now I did not intentionally do this but i did do it never the less that is a lye.

what about if you worry about something is that a sin?

what about just being rude to someone is that a sin? that seems to happen a lot around here lately

what about not being patient with someone is that a sin?

Love your neighbor as yourself, do people have any idea how that really looks, what have you done for someone else today is a question that we should all be asking ourselves daily IMO do you get excited when someone ask you for help or do you dread it ???

I can tick all those blocks. Reminds me how some see doubt and fear as sin too.

 

[At Peace]

All have fallen short. Are you suggesting they did not have Adam's sin / need Jesus to wash them clean? They were perfect without Jesus?

Why would someone have another man's sin?
I know that as humans we were all subject to the "fleshly desires", courtesy of Adam, (I say "were" because in Christ we walk in the Spirit instead of in the flesh)
But Jesus never "fell short".
And if others were counted worthy of heaven, without death, why assume they committed any sins?
Enoch was taken away before the institution of the Mosaic Law, so his circumstances may have differed from Elijah's, but God was in control.
So I can't doubt His judgement.
He did what He did.

The story of Lazaurs is never called a parable. Jesus uses an actual name. He is also pretty descriptive, take Luke 16:22 as an example 'And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom'.
The "story" of the unjust steward isn't called a parable either, so did it actually happen?
I think not.

AB is also logical. People only qualify for God's presence once washed by the blood of Jesus.

As Jesus' blood wasn't yet shed, doesn't that rule out Lazarus' "washing"?
Men of the OT could use the Law's atonements to achieve righteousness, but without the NT's crucifixion of their "old man", were destined to return to sin.

So if you want to be pedantic and say they went to heaven not a nice part of Hades with a great divide, then you have to concede to the fact that that part of heaven was not God's actual presence. Because we know what happened to Moses in God's presence without Jesus.

God is never mentioned in Jesus' "story" of AB.
Abraham is used as a "picture" of God...and the "gulf" is the future abyss between the righteous and the condemned.
There will be no talking between the two realms.

No sins today? No anger? No jealousy? No envy? No gluttony? No immoral thoughts? No hatred? No cursing? No pride?
You and I can say. No murder. No adultery. No stealing. We are to daily work our salvation in fear and trembling Phil 2:12.
Judging ourselves harshly and being quick to repent is Christianity 101.

Of course not.
It is written..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)
Are you not Christ's?
BTW, if you "turn from sin" once, why would you need to keep doing it again and again?

 

[At Peace]

I believe that God intends for us to strive always to live without sin. Can we do it? Not alone, but...

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." Mark 10:27

For me or you in our flesh without God it is indeed impossible, but who is to be in us?

"To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory" Col 1:27

Is it not the work of the Holy Ghost in us to clean the garbage out so that it can replaced in every part of us with good? What happens is we don't allow it is seen here:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
Mat 12:44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
Mat 12:45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

When a person repent the cleansing begins, but if the old corruption is not replaced with the new and incorruptible then we could expect to see the seven more wicked spirits taken in...

"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30

To say that it is impossible for a man to live without sin, even a Holy Ghost filled man, is, I believe, to call Jesus a liar.

Jesus did not come for nothing and the Holy Ghost was not sent to us for nothing.

Thanks be to God for all He had Jesus accomplish, to allow us to continue walking in the light instead of in darkness.

 

[Lanolin]

Pray for her to come to repentance.

Her daughter sachi wrote a book about what it was like to be have her for a mother, some shocking stuff went down. You can read for yourself but did recall thar ms maclaine would encourage her daughter to be sexually immoral as soon as she hit puberty.

Thanks be to God for all He had Jesus accomplish, to allow us to continue walking in the light instead of in darkness.

His word is a light to my path and a lamp to my feet. Thank You Jesus that his word is in my heart!

Now here is one thing Ive learned in my walk with God. Some people can be decieved by the devil coming as disguised as an angel of light. They think they are being 'enlightened' but that light is deceptive.

This can be things like new age and occult doctrines. It will have half truth but it wont be all the truth.
It will be like people think oh I read the bible but they only read one verse and think thats all there is. They think that is 'reading the bible'. Well no thats just picking out a verse and ignoring the rest and making it what you want it to mean.

Why would someone have another man's sin?
I know that as humans we were all subject to the "fleshly desires", courtesy of Adam, (I say "were" because in Christ we walk in the Spirit instead of in the flesh)
But Jesus never "fell short".
And if others were counted worthy of heaven, without death, why assume they committed any sins?
Enoch was taken away before the institution of the Mosaic Law, so his circumstances may have differed from Elijah's, but God was in control.
So I can't doubt His judgement.
He did what He did.

Again its because people dont really read the bible. Maybe they forget about enoch and noah and elijah..all righteous men. Another it that when Paul was quoting that scripture all have sinned...he was quoting psalms and that was referring to the israelites and referring to their fallen state, to make a point that not just gentiles are sinners but israelites are guilty too. As a colllective group, to show that Jesus came to save both israelites(jews) AND gentiles.

Remember the isralites were to be a holy people separate and set apart for Gods purpose. They were the 'chosen ones'. The elect. But now with Jesus that invitation is open not just for those of the circumcision and under the old covenant.

 

[Lanolin]

I can tick all those blocks. Reminds me how some see doubt and fear as sin too.

dave m you need to take these faults to Jesus.
He can help you out in all these areas.

If you dont know something just ask God about it - He knows everything! And he has given is books of wisdom to read in the Bible, like proverbs. Follow these instructions and you will be on the right path.
Worry - we pray instead of worrying.
Being rude - well rudeness, it depends on what is meant by rudeness. If I see someone whos not following God and posting false doctrines (for example, Jesus comes back as a lion) you can bet that im going to be direct and call them up on it. They can be rude and ignore me and not answer my questions but they cannot ignore what God says in His word. If they continue to do so I have no fellowship with those who walk in darkness and deliberately lead others astray.
Being impatient - patience is a fruit of the holy spirit. But we are also to redeem the time we have here so some things need attention urgently. Ask God for wisdom.

What have you done for someone else..well I think little things mean a lot, I am praying for a number of people at the moment who need prayer. There is a job vacancy at my work and id like my friend to encourage her brother to apply. On the everyday level at my work I deadheaded a load of dietes. Well whats that mean, well they werent mine they were other peoples so it means they dont have to get down on their hands and knees to do it cos they are elderly. I tidied up a lot of dead leaves under a tree for someone else.

If you ask God to show you, you can find that He will give you little missions each day to do for someone else. It wont necessarily be what people demand you to do but things that may go unappreciated by others but it pleases God.

Dave m the christian walk may not be easy at first but i encourage you the more you walk lighter it becomes. Sometimes you really have to put off the devil constantly trying to distract you.

 

[Lanolin]

I believe that God intends for us to strive always to live without sin. Can we do it? Not alone, but...

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." Mark 10:27

For me or you in our flesh without God it is indeed impossible, but who is to be in us?

"To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory" Col 1:27

Is it not the work of the Holy Ghost in us to clean the garbage out so that it can replaced in every part of us with good? What happens is we don't allow it is seen here:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
Mat 12:44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
Mat 12:45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

When a person repent the cleansing begins, but if the old corruption is not replaced with the new and incorruptible then we could expect to see the seven more wicked spirits taken in...

"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30

To say that it is impossible for a man to live without sin, even a Holy Ghost filled man, is, I believe, to call Jesus a liar.

Jesus did not come for nothing and the Holy Ghost was not sent to us for nothing.

Some people have given their kingdom to the beast. They think 'might is right' but revelation tells us this is not so.
They dont know because they do not read revelation, that God has revealed there is a war in which the Lamb overcomes the beast and the kings who have given power to the beast. A ***** rides the beast...these kings have commited fornication with her. They think immoral thoughts and do immoral deeds.

See revelation 17: 13-14
These have one mind, and shall give power and strength unto the beast.
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them, for He is Lord of Lords, King of Kings and they that are with him are called and chosen and faithful.

The question is.,are we called and chosen and faithful?

Or are we worshipping an image of the beast, going our own way, commiting fornication and thus lacking faith.