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LOL Another part of the bible that has no time frame.
who was on earth that would find Cain and kill him?
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So where do all the very different human types/races come from?
and do not preach evolution for that is definitely not scriptural.
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That's right, Sue. It's the only reasonable inference to draw from the Genesis narrative. To suggest that God created another race, pre-Adamic or otherwise, is simply unreaaonable and unscriptural.
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Sir As I said on this thread a couple times.....although macro evolution does NOT exist micro evolution does....That's small changes in the genome....At first all mankind had dark eyes....Somewhere along the way a gene got weak in someone and down the line blue eyes came into existence....Micro evolution. How do features change? I suspect it would be along the same lines....But the fact remains...All are human, all can intermix with human and yes...all are the same as at the start barring minor changes for flavor. Diet and environment can cause micro evolution but never macro evolution.....Monkeys have never and will never breed and produce an elephant....but only monkeys
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All humans come from Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve had to possess every genetic possibility and combination that could ever possibly exist, since they were created by God, and all people are descended from Adam and Eve.
Giving birth after birth after birth, the offspring of Adam and Eve had their own particular differences in physical appearance. They all received their DNA - half from Adam and half from Eve. But the offspring had combinatoins of DNA that came from the entire collective possibilities possessed by Adam and Eve. So some had brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes, grey eyes, and black hair, brown hair, red hair, blond hair, thick lips, thin lips, rounded eyes, thinner eyes, level of melanin pigmentation, taller, shorter, wider, thinner, hairy, smooth skinned, freckles and no freckles, etc, etc, etc. All of those combinations probably caused like-looking offspring to draw each other to one another, and that may have caused them to become traveling companions after the confounding of langiage by God at Babel. When these like looking humans procreated, they shared so much of the same DNA that their offspring shared the same physical characteristics. It just so happens that the people that went far east from the Tower of Babel look asian today, those that went south toward the equator look African today, those that went extreme north look pale caucasian today, and those that remained in geographic proximity to the central Asian-middle east region look middle eastern today
After man went in every direction, and after they settled in a particular climate, it might be that the climate and atmospheric conditions in the places they settled played a part in the further development of particular physical features.
This is not Darwinian evolution because humans have been humans from the beginning: they are of like kind - HUMAN. Darwinian evolution is a hoax and of the devil.
Angel are messengers. Apostles, bring the message of God his prophecy . .the tongue of God. Jesus said I have come to do the will of the father as our perfect example yet he did not sin..
Sons of God get together through prayer without ceasing .Spoken of in Revelation the golden bowls the prayers of the saints .The accuser of the brethren Satan that accuses believers day and night came with the Christians requests from earth .Their attention was drawn toward our father, the power of his name strenthened Job to finish it.
He said to Satan have you tried my servant Job as one of the sons of God that have come up in prayer ?
Job 2:1-4 King James Version (KJV) Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord. And the Lord said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
Sons of God is never used to represents lying sprits that have no DNA needed to procreate.
In the new covanant in which born again Abel was a member of the eternal bride of Christ .He is the first listed apostle (sent one) sent to bring the good news to his brotther Cain, In so much that we can know God the Creator of the universe not seen . Cain having no faith by which he could believe God mudrered his brother . Cain defined the pagan foundation "out of sight out of mind" buried him under the corn field .His blood as does the blood of all saints cry out in a hope of receiving the new incoruptible bodies .Cain demonstrated the first murder of the father of lies. . . a murderer from that begining murdering Abel the first martyr of the church
1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
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It would seem, Garee, that you have it all figured out.....That leaves no room or basis for discussion....Abel is not mentioned in the New Covenant....There is nothing about Abel being born again. The bible says nothing about Cain not living for God after God marking him....He did trust God to protect him, did he not? Abel was not a martyr...He died and there was no church...
Just keep smoking whatever you're smoking or....Start taking the Word as it's written and stop trying to tell God what He means when He says something...
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But it is used to represent angels.
Jude 1:6; And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
Jude 1:7; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Gen 6:4; There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
How come if a human (saved or not) has intercourse with a human woman (saved or not) this doesn't produce giants.
I hear you and there is also no blank check. . fill in what some think is missing. No missing bones the doctrine must be followed out to the end of the matter.
The comandment was to mankind, men and woam procreate, be fruitfull and multiply then he moved them to obey his will. Onan was killed because he spilled the seed refusing to be part of the family of God demonsrated by the spiritual seed pased down until the birth of jesus .it stil hold its place of value warns us do not be unevely yoked with unbeleivers
Its a non salvation item . It would be like to me. . What kind of pets did they have, were the pets related ? In order to have accurate time 24 hours is used to full prophecy days times seasons . The rotation of the earth empowered by the wil of God, in most cases it rotates once per day. And a day that had extened light or made the shdow go backward other than a few times, a day is 24 hours . You can set your clock by the Sun . No batteries needed.
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There's only one race, it's called human. Adam and Eve had the entire combination of genetic markers that created every feature you see on human beings today. Why is that so hard for you to accept?
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Where is that in scripture?
And some real worldly evidence please if all of what you claim is true. Should be easy to study the development of different types of human features in archaeology and so on.
Show us the evidence for all these fantastic changes in human types we see in the world today.
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Why argue anymore or debate if all you're trying to do is get people to agree with you? You're not seeking the truth. All you want is people to embrace that which you posit as truth when scripture is as silent on that which you're pushing as it is silent on whether the daughters of Adam and Eve were the brides/wives of Cain, Enoch, Irad, etc. I'm done with your folly. Blessings.
Plenty of room that he has prepared for his bride the church many manisions.
I offer my private interpretation just as you. The Bible says there must be differences of opinions called heresies amongst us. One is our teaching master as Lord not seen. we are to call no man on earth teaching master as Lord.
And I am not responcible for others changing the meaning of a word that can change the authorship. The word apostle has been destroyed by its new meaning in most sects. Just name one prophets that was not sent with prophecy the work of God . Sent with prophecy defines apostle . No succession of apostle time of the apotles or any thing that might give power to the wone sent and not the words he is sent with . Moses was sent Samuel was sent. deborah was sent
Most of the foundations that make up the doctrines of God are found in the early chapters of Genesis. I could say the same to you and stop trying to tell God what He means when He says something..
I do not have any fear of studying rightly dividing ( sola scriptura) in order that I might seek His approval .other than being misunderstood. The sword of His Spirit It defends me I don't defend it .Its his armor given to us to put on and keep on . The Bible says if any man has not the Spirit of Christ that dewelt in Abel then he is not of or powered byChrist .That would mean his blood is not crying out to be clothed with the incorruptible Abel and the other old testement saint were part of the first resurection when the gates to the Mansion of many rooms were open .They stay open untill the last day to be absent of these bodies of sin is to dwel in the mansion of many rooms
Romans 8:8-10 King James Version (KJV) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
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Scene: Creation, "The Coast of Africa"
Out of all the "speculations", I do believe my speculation should be considered with high honors, should as the "Nobel Peace"n Prize.
For Adam and Eve was created Perfect. She had the appearance and beautiful of all the Living. All the races and colors of hair and skin, and shapes, and forms of all the Living, for she was Created "perfect". the way she walked was perfect, the way her hips move like the gentle breeze in the wind, the movement of the sway of Her hair was committing the drifting of the Raven feathers as it floats in the air. She was EVE, The Mother of all Living, Not one race, ALL, Not only "Ravens Color" ALL, and the look in her eyes, the deep pearls of a sense of wonder-ness, that capture Adam's mind and carriers him, some where far away. For she is The Mother of ALL Living. He beheld the slope of her legs and the way she turns, He had observed the animals walk, He saw them turn, but EVE, her movement far surpasses them all, Her skin a lot more Lighter and softer than his, Her hands are small, her fingers but fit comfortable between Adams, which are very large and very dark. For I am ADAM, I am the MALE and she is The Female, the Mother of all Living. And she is mine, "Bone of My Bone" and "Flesh of my Flesh". AND GOD brought her to me!
"And from the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man, He made a woman and brought her to him. And the man said: “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for out of Adam she was taken.” For this reason, a man, will leave, his "MAMA and DADDY"
and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh." [he sure will leave]
Satan got mad, HE Started to growing HORNS, and puffing smoke He so mad, he even hung GOD on a tree! Satan didn't know HE would get back up, even from the dead! but Satan, still mad. and Eve daughters still look good. Ask King David, he will tell you. Ask his son King Solomon, he will tell you too.
Eve
is it true, "the one who rocks the cradle, rules the world"
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As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they that lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
Out of all the "speculations", I do believe my speculation should be considered with high honors, should as the "Nobel Peace"n Prize.
For Adam and Eve was created Perfect. She had the appearance and beautiful of all the Living. All the races and colors of hair and skin, and shapes, and forms of all the Living, for she was Created "perfect". the way she walked was perfect, the way her hips move like the gentle breeze in the wind, the movement of the sway of Her hair was committing the drifting of the Raven feathers as it floats in the air. She was EVE, The Mother of all Living, Not one race, ALL, Not only "Ravens Color" ALL, and the look in her eyes, the deep pearls of a sense of wonder-ness, that capture Adam's mind and carriers him, some where far away. For she is The Mother of ALL Living. He beheld the slope of her legs and the way she turns, He had observed the animals walk, He saw them turn, but EVE, her movement far surpasses them all, Her skin a lot more Lighter and softer than his, Her hands are small, her fingers but fit comfortable between Adams, which are very large and very dark. For I am ADAM, I am the MALE and she is The Female, the Mother of all Living. And she is mine, "Bone of My Bone" and "Flesh of my Flesh". AND GOD brought her to me!
"And from the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man, He made a woman and brought her to him. And the man said: “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for out of Adam she was taken.” For this reason, a man, will leave, his "MAMA and DADDY"
and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh." [he sure will leave]Satan got mad, HE Started to growing HORNS, and puffing smoke
He so mad, he even hung GOD on a tree! Satan didn't know HE would get back up, even from the dead! but Satan, still mad. and Eve daughters still look good. Ask King David, he will tell you. Ask his son King Solomon, he will tell you too.Eve
is it true, "the one who rocks the cradle, rules the world"
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As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they that lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
But it is used to represent angels.
Jude 1:6; And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
Jude 1:7; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
The first messengers called angels or apostles are false apostles that bring false prophecy (like the law of the fathers I heard it through the grape vine )
Gen 6:4; There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
How come if a human (saved or not) has intercourse with a human woman (saved or not) this doesn't produce giants.
It can just look as the NBA.
Those giants of the faith of Christ are God’s renown that worked in those born again men as sons of God they cohabitated with the evil generation un- redeemed they had no faith by which they could be believe God. God called them a froward nation . or fools. . no God in their hearts. . . atheist.
Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
They were unevenly yoked Chritians as sons of God cohabitating with the faithless even after the flood as warning to not be unevenly yoked with non-believers. The warning continues to aplly.
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Now there is a hefty chunk of the problem, old son. Why are you trying to interpret the Word....Is your bible not in English? Simply take the Word as God speaks it... That's what I've been giving you...Just as God said it....What did HE say? Not trying to tell God what He means when He speaks....He already knows what He wants to say, and says it the way He means it....
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Not all of the angels are messengers...Some are warriors, some are guardians of the Throne of God
It was the crossing of angels and human women that caused the giants...Not the crossing human with human...
All messengers sent as apostles with prophecy the word of God are mighty warriors, the renown of God as sons of God. David the little guy as a messenger sent with God hit the giant of the renowned enemy Goliath right between the eyes. . a supernatural fast round stone never saw it coming. Your’e out. David the mighty warriors or giant of faith. The one pitch hitter
It was the crossing of the taller gene with other taller genes that can bring height The literal physical height is not part of the warning to not be unevenly yoked with daughters of men .the non-redeemed .There are still Christians who refuse to obey the commandment not to be unevenly yoke. It’s like today its going out of style.
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Sir What are you going on about? Do you even know what you're saying?
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