who was on earth that would find Cain and kill him?

[Admon Mikha'el]

Well -- considering that you're a very Pro Gap theory -- of Course you'd find it wrong on the 'con' side.

One of the problems with the Gap theory is that a person can make it as Long as they want to put Anything into it they want to.

The existance of the Nephilin -- the mighty men of valor -- would be a solution to the piramids that exist, etc. No need For a Gap theory.

And another thought -- since sin and thus , death, entered the world Because of Adam and Eve -- how / why could another civilization have existed and then died off. Everyone born Before them would have still been alive at that time. And Where would those people have come From? And that's where the evolutionist could put / have put in the supposed development from 'ape/ chimp' to human beings. But there are No missing links. Monkeys/ chimps are still being born and 'we' are still being born. Have been all along. Chimps/ monkeys Do produce within their own kind. And people are not part of that "kind'.

And there Are those who believe that the Aborigineese look different enough that they Could, Maybe be an off-shoot of 'something'.

Evolution is evolution // science is science. And when put to the test -- science ends up agreeing with Bible.

By the Nephilim you mean the giants? The Raphaim? You don't believe they exist?
Actually I don't know that another race did exist beyond the fallen angels who did live on the fifth planet Rahab, on Mars and on Earth...Rahab being their main nest at the time. When God destroyed Rahab, Mars was caught in the blast and it's atmosphere was ripped away, its axis changed and all the water was lost except at the poles...Earth also got clobbered in an extinction event....bang bang bang.... Hmmmm Maybe thats where the Earth became without form and void.....There was no evolution. Not ever
The Aboriginies of Australia are fully human...no offshoot of anything but human. They look different from other races just as other races look different from the rest.
Some science ends up agreeing with the bible....Evolution is science...stupid science....There are several sciences that are simply not in agreement with the bible. Always choose the bible over science.....because science only agrees with the bible where it's convenient or the scientist is a Christian. Caroline Leaf is a scientist who puts the bible first and then looks to science to prove it. She's a good example.

 

[Waggles]

Genesis 4:16 Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
4:17 Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
4:18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad fathered Mehujael, and Mehujael fathered Methushael, and Methushael fathered Lamech.
a lot of wives here for these men - are you claiming without any direct scripture that they married their sisters also?
4:19 And Lamech took two wives. The name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
4:20 Adah bore Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock.
4:21 His brother's name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe.
4:22 Zillah also bore Tubal-cain; he was the forger of all instruments of bronze and iron. The sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.
4:23 Lamech said to his wives: “Adah and Zillah, hear my voice; you wives of Lamech, listen to what I say: I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for striking me.
4:24 If Cain's revenge is sevenfold, then Lamech's is seventy-sevenfold.”

 

[Garee]

Genesis 4:16 Then Cain
4:17 Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
4:18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad fathered Mehujael, and Mehujael fathered Methushael, and Methushael fathered Lamech.
a lot of wives here for these men - are you claiming without any direct scripture that they married their sisters also?
4:19 And Lamech took two wives. The name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
4:20 Adah bore Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock.
4:21 His brother's name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe.
4:22 Zillah also bore Tubal-cain; he was the forger of all instruments of bronze and iron. The sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.
4:23 Lamech said to his wives: “Adah and Zillah, hear my voice; you wives of Lamech, listen to what I say: I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for striking me.
4:24 If Cain's revenge is sevenfold, then Lamech's is seventy-sevenfold.”

Of course they married sisters how many of Adam and Eves offspring where went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden?

 

[Garee]

By the Nephilim you mean the giants? The Raphaim? You don't believe they exist?
Actually I don't know that another race did exist beyond the fallen angels who did live on the fifth planet Rahab, on Mars and on Earth...Rahab being their main nest at the time. When God destroyed Rahab, Mars was caught in the blast and it's atmosphere was ripped away, its axis changed and all the water was lost except at the poles...Earth also got clobbered in an extinction event....bang bang bang.... Hmmmm Maybe thats where the Earth became without form and void.....There was no evolution. Not ever
The Aboriginies of Australia are fully human...no offshoot of anything but human. They look different from other races just as other races look different from the rest.
Some science ends up agreeing with the bible....Evolution is science...stupid science....There are several sciences that are simply not in agreement with the bible. Always choose the bible over science.....because science only agrees with the bible where it's convenient or the scientist is a Christian. Caroline Leaf is a scientist who puts the bible first and then looks to science to prove it. She's a good example.

Satan or legion (many) as one lying spirit is as many that are needed to decieve. He is the spirit of error lying spirits or the spirit of deception caled the antichrist that works in many antichrsts (plural) men who do have Dna . Spreading lies can cause harm but never create something that is not there. Spirts do not have DNA.

Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.


The sons of man were the belivers, daughters of men non belivers . Simply are warning to not be unevenly yoked . God was stil proptecting the spiritual seed (Christ), That genaeloogy was made complete at the birth of Christ . The spirit of lies is never called a son of God . Onan was killed for spilling out the seed ( Christ)He refused to honr God.

The Nephilim are the renown of God giants of faith.

There were sons of God as mighty men of a exclusive faith. Christ faith that worked in them to both will and do the good pleasure of God .They were cohabitating with unbebelivers daughters of men before and after the flood .

Even though the seed was revealed at the birth of Jesus the Son of God the requirement remains the same.

2 Corinthians 6:14 [Full Chapter Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

 

[Beetow]

how would a passer by that wanted to slay Cain, know that they would be avenged
7 fold?

Enoch, Irad, Mehujael, Lamech, Jabal, Jubal, and Tubal-cain were all Cain's progeny
(Gen 4:17-22). So the seven-fold thingy was likely common knowledge throughout
their community.

I don't exactly know how the people of other communities became aware of the
seven-fold thingy; perhaps via commerce.
_

 

[Sue D.]

@Garee -- Not sure what you response has to do with the post you're responding back To.

Satan Is the great deceiver / liar of mankind. And the demonic world are the angels that followed satan in rebellion in heaven

And, yes, the account in Mark 5:9 -- the country of the Gadarenes and the man who'd been dwelling in the tombs , and no one could bind him. vs 2 -- when he saw Jesus far off he ran to him and worshipped him -- the unclean spirit inside the man had a conversation with Jesus -- vs 9 the unclean spirit said that his name was Legion ; for we are many.

The rest of your comments about the Nephilin -- there has been a question about who they were. They mated with beautiful women on earth and their off-spring were giants -- mighty men of valor. Have never found anything indicating their were might men of Faith in God. And nothing that I know of suggesting that's related to the passage about not being unequally yoked together with non-believers.

What do you base your comments on?

 

[Sue D.]

By the Nephilim you mean the giants? The Raphaim? You don't believe they exist?
Actually I don't know that another race did exist beyond the fallen angels who did live on the fifth planet Rahab, on Mars and on Earth...Rahab being their main nest at the time. When God destroyed Rahab, Mars was caught in the blast and it's atmosphere was ripped away, its axis changed and all the water was lost except at the poles...Earth also got clobbered in an extinction event....bang bang bang.... Hmmmm Maybe thats where the Earth became without form and void.....There was no evolution. Not ever
The Aboriginies of Australia are fully human...no offshoot of anything but human. They look different from other races just as other races look different from the rest.
Some science ends up agreeing with the bible....Evolution is science...stupid science....There are several sciences that are simply not in agreement with the bible. Always choose the bible over science.....because science only agrees with the bible where it's convenient or the scientist is a Christian. Caroline Leaf is a scientist who puts the bible first and then looks to science to prove it. She's a good example.

Your info concerning God destroying Rahab the planet Because that's where the fallen angels lived on the 5th planet Rahab and on Mars and on Earth -- Mars being caught in the blast and it's atmosphere was ripped away, atmosphere being ripped away , its' axis being changed and all the water was lost except at the poles. And the Earth got caught up in an extinction event -- that is apparently / supposedly part of what happened between Genesis 1:1 and 2.

And Rahab was their main nesting area.

Sounds 'interesting' -- and that's based on What , exactly? Nothing in the Bible suggests anything like that.

 

[Garee]

@Garee -- Not sure what you response has to do with the post you're responding back To.

Satan Is the great deceiver / liar of mankind. And the demonic world are the angels that followed satan in rebellion in heaven

And, yes, the account in Mark 5:9 -- the country of the Gadarenes and the man who'd been dwelling in the tombs , and no one could bind him. vs 2 -- when he saw Jesus far off he ran to him and worshipped him -- the unclean spirit inside the man had a conversation with Jesus -- vs 9 the unclean spirit said that his name was Legion ; for we are many.

The rest of your comments about the Nephilin -- there has been a question about who they were. They mated with beautiful women on earth and their off-spring were giants -- mighty men of valor. Have never found anything indicating their were might men of Faith in God. And nothing that I know of suggesting that's related to the passage about not being unequally yoked together with non-believers.

What do you base your comments on?

Hi Thanks for the reply.

I can try if we look at the way I am trying to use the word legion. And I will comment on Nephilin in another post.

Legion false messages of the one spirit. The spirit of lies or father of lies .not fathers but father of lies.

John 8:44 [Full Chapter] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


It would seem the use of the word legion would signify many but of are the same one spirit the spirit of lies. Lucifer who was to protect the glorious light of creation from false pride, in false pride fell with mankind.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

In that way legion a muderere from the beging deceiving cain Cain in turn murdeed his brother Abel and plowed him under "out of sight out of mind "the pagan foundation .No faith coming from the Spirit of Christ . unredeemed mankind

The glory of God departed. And mankind covered their selves to hide their shame.

Legion (many) is the one spirit of the antichrist (singular) that works in a legion of antichrists (plural)

Note . . .( my addition)

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (singular) shall come, even now are there many antichrists; (plural) whereby we know that it is the last time.


.Peter is shown (Mathew 16:22-23) as used as one of the many anti -christs that 1 John said was there when it was written (antichrists) in order to help us walk by faith.the unseen eternal And resist those who seduce others saying a man must teach us and not a unseen God. The Holy Spirt say we abide in him as he teaches us


1 John 2:26 -27 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him


Peter fell by false pride thinking he was the key that the gates of hell could never prevail against . . rebuking the lord forbidding the lord from doing the gospel work the true key that the gates of hel could never prevail against .Peter was forgiven of his blapdhmy against the Son of man jeus . that 33 year windeow closed when Jesus disappeared .

Legion is used that way to represent necromancy the living communing with what they think are living sprits of men who have left this realm under the Sun.


When King Saul who was cut off all manner of communication with God and sought after a witch . She stopped when she saw many or legion of gods coming up . She needed a description from Saul. . . the same spirit of lies then deceived them both. God sent a strong delusion and Saul bowed down to it

 

[Garee]

The word renown or giant is used 11 times in the Old Testament. It speaks of the mighty men of old that God has moved working in them to both reveal his will and empower them to accomplish it . Just as he does proptecti the integrity of his interpretation as it is written

2 Peter 1:20-21 King James Version (KJV)20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

In that way God used his renowned David to slay the renown of the Philistines hit him right between the eyes and pushed flat on his face.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Numbers 1:16 These were the renowned of the congregation, princes of the tribes of their fathers, heads of thousands in Israel.

Numbers 16:2And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

Isaiah 14:20Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.

Ezekiel 16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

Ezekiel 23:23 The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon horses.

Ezekiel 26:17And they shall take up a lamentation for thee, and say to thee, How art thou destroyed, that wast inhabited of seafaring men, the renowned city, which wast strong in the sea, she and her inhabitants, which cause their terror to be on all that haunt it!

Ezekiel 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.

Ezekiel 39:13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord God.

Daniel 9:15 And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as at this day; we have sinned, we have done wickedly.

Never is Legion the father of lies called a son of God.

The warning not to be unevenly yoked applies today just as before the flood .

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Satan or legion (many) as one lying spirit is as many that are needed to decieve. He is the spirit of error lying spirits or the spirit of deception caled the antichrist that works in many antichrsts (plural) men who do have Dna . Spreading lies can cause harm but never create something that is not there. Spirts do not have DNA.

Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.


The sons of man were the belivers, daughters of men non belivers . Simply are warning to not be unevenly yoked . God was stil proptecting the spiritual seed (Christ), That genaeloogy was made complete at the birth of Christ . The spirit of lies is never called a son of God . Onan was killed for spilling out the seed ( Christ)He refused to honr God.

The Nephilim are the renown of God giants of faith.

There were sons of God as mighty men of a exclusive faith. Christ faith that worked in them to both will and do the good pleasure of God .They were cohabitating with unbebelivers daughters of men before and after the flood .

Even though the seed was revealed at the birth of Jesus the Son of God the requirement remains the same.

2 Corinthians 6:14 [Full Chapter Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Are you all right? Hang in there buddy...You'll be ok.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Your info concerning God destroying Rahab the planet Because that's where the fallen angels lived on the 5th planet Rahab and on Mars and on Earth -- Mars being caught in the blast and it's atmosphere was ripped away, atmosphere being ripped away , its' axis being changed and all the water was lost except at the poles. And the Earth got caught up in an extinction event -- that is apparently / supposedly part of what happened between Genesis 1:1 and 2.

And Rahab was their main nesting area.

Sounds 'interesting' -- and that's based on What , exactly? Nothing in the Bible suggests anything like that.

Mostly based on what they left behind

 

[Garee]

Are you all right? Hang in there buddy...You'll be ok.

I am doing just fine. Did you have question? Do you think itis more than a warning to not be unevenly yoked?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I am doing just fine. Did you have question? Do you think itis more than a warning to not be unevenly yoked?

For me, most of what you wrote there was garbled babbling....Men were godly and women were ungodly? What? " The sons of man were the belivers, daughters of men non belivers ."

 

[Waggles]

Of course they married sisters how many of Adam and Eves offspring where went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden?

NONE in scripture narrative.

 

[JerryfromMass]

NONE in scripture narrative.

What you actually mean to say is: none are mentioned. The Bible is silent, but a reasonable mind can see that Adam and Eve obeyed God's first command to be fruitful and multiply. Therefore, it's more than reasonable to infer from the fact that the Bible says Cain and all the other men took wives and had children, that Adam and Eve were the progenitors of those wives.

 

[Waggles]

The Bible is silent,

But scripture is not silent on these matters - the narrative of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are very different
and Genesis 4 clearly teaches that after Cain departed to the land of Nod and took a wife then Seth was born for which Eve thanked God.
Other sons and daughters are mentioned later in Genesis 5.

Why do people keep on insisting that yom absolutely means a 24 hour day? Where does that teaching come from?

 

[JerryfromMass]

But scripture is not silent on these matters - the narrative of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are very different
and Genesis 4 clearly teaches that after Cain departed to the land of Nod and took a wife then Seth was born for which Eve thanked God.
Other sons and daughters are mentioned later in Genesis 5.

Why do people keep on insisting that yom absolutely means a 24 hour day? Where does that teaching come from?

Genesis 1 tells us God created man and woman.

Genesis 2 tells us from what and how God created man and woman.

Genesis 4 is silent in time frames; it does not say how long after Cain left for Nod that he got a wife. Could have been thirty, fifty, or hundreds of years later.

Obviously Cain got his wife after Adam and Eve birthed a baby girl and the girl grew mature enough to marry her brother Cain, or it was a neice, or grandneice, etc.

There is no other race outside of the Adamic race. You are twisting scripture to fit your narrative. Stop. Repent. All of you.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

What you actually mean to say is: none are mentioned. The Bible is silent, but a reasonable mind can see that Adam and Eve obeyed God's first command to be fruitful and multiply. Therefore, it's more than reasonable to infer from the fact that the Bible says Cain and all the other men took wives and had children, that Adam and Eve were the progenitors of those wives.

They probably did marry their sisters...The gene pool would be pure at that early stage, and God did not forbid it until He gave Moses the Law...Leviticus 18

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

But scripture is not silent on these matters - the narrative of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are very different
and Genesis 4 clearly teaches that after Cain departed to the land of Nod and took a wife then Seth was born for which Eve thanked God.
Other sons and daughters are mentioned later in Genesis 5.

Why do people keep on insisting that yom absolutely means a 24 hour day? Where does that teaching come from?

Does time flow differently today than it did in the beginning? A day is 24 hours...where is the problem? The bible does not teach that a day is longer than 24 hours....Not nowhere.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Well -- considering that you're a very Pro Gap theory -- of Course you'd find it wrong on the 'con' side.

One of the problems with the Gap theory is that a person can make it as Long as they want to put Anything into it they want to.

The existance of the Nephilin -- the mighty men of valor -- would be a solution to the piramids that exist, etc. No need For a Gap theory.

And another thought -- since sin and thus , death, entered the world Because of Adam and Eve -- how / why could another civilization have existed and then died off. Everyone born Before them would have still been alive at that time. And Where would those people have come From? And that's where the evolutionist could put / have put in the supposed development from 'ape/ chimp' to human beings. But there are No missing links. Monkeys/ chimps are still being born and 'we' are still being born. Have been all along. Chimps/ monkeys Do produce within their own kind. And people are not part of that "kind'.

And there Are those who believe that the Aborigineese look different enough that they Could, Maybe be an off-shoot of 'something'.

Evolution is evolution // science is science. And when put to the test -- science ends up agreeing with Bible.

Well -- considering that you're a very Pro Gap theory -- of Course you'd find it wrong on the 'con' side.

One of the problems with the Gap theory is that a person can make it as Long as they want to put Anything into it they want to.

LOL Actually I should have said, when I said it was wrong, is that it does not line up with the Word.. Then the length of time between vs 1 and vs 2 then vs3 is not even relevant as far as I can see....Except that it was more than a week, or a month or a lifetime