who was on earth that would find Cain and kill him?

[Waggles]

Obviously Cain got his wife after Adam and Eve birthed a baby girl and the girl grew mature enough to marry her brother Cain, or it was a neice, or grandneice, etc.

Quote the verses to this please.

 

[JerryfromMass]

Quote the verses to this please.

Do you have a Bible?

 

[Waggles]

Does time flow differently today than it did in the beginning? A day is 24 hours...where is the problem? The bible does not teach that a day is longer than 24 hours....Not nowhere.

The problem is that translators use the word day, while the original Hebrew word yom covers many definitions of time:
H3117 יום yôm
1) day, time, year
1a) day (as opposed to night)
1b) day (24 hour period)
1b1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
1b2) as a division of time
1b2a) a working day, a day’s journey
1c) days, lifetime (plural)
1d) time, period (general)
1e) year
1f) temporal references
1f1) today
1f2) yesterday
1f3) tomorrow

 

[Waggles]

Do you have a Bible?

Then open your Bible and cite the verses that teach that Eve had daughters before the birth of Seth.

 

[PloughBoy]

What you actually mean to say is: none are mentioned. The Bible is silent, but a reasonable mind can see that Adam and Eve obeyed God's first command to be fruitful and multiply. Therefore, it's more than reasonable to infer from the fact that the Bible says Cain and all the other men took wives and had children, that Adam and Eve were the progenitors of those wives.

quite sure, the women had a lot of kids. And how old was ADAM, when he died?
After Sarah dies and Isaac is married, Abraham marries Keturah and has a whole new batch of kids. Although Abraham is now around 135 years old,
Sarah had Isaac about 127. I can imagine, Eve was still going strong around 600 plus. and had a whole mess of "grand Daughters. especially with all of those "manDrakes" laying around and with the help of GOD! For He gave them a command, be fruitful and Multiply. And Man obeyed! They start producing fruit! And it does not seem to me she had any headaches ! Behold, a Sower went forth and sowed seed, in fertile ground! Now pause and meditate on the Word of GOD. different time different place.

 

[Waggles]

Genesis 4:16 Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
4:17 Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. When he built a city, he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
4:18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad fathered Mehujael, and Mehujael fathered Methushael, and Methushael fathered Lamech.
4:19 And Lamech took two wives. The name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
scripture clearly gives the narrative that Cain's wife came from the land of Nod, east of Eden. And there were also women there for his progeny.

 

[JerryfromMass]

Then open your Bible and cite the verses that teach that Eve had daughters before the birth of Seth.

Read the Genesis narrative and, if you have a sound mind, you'll see it. Otherwise, go with Ellen G. Whote, pr Charles Taze Russell, or Joseph Smith and Mormon, or whomevers false teachings it is you follow.

 

[Waggles]

How do you get from just 8 members of one family from the Ark to all the many different human races/types in the world today in only 4,000 years?
You lot are preaching human evolution on a grand accelerated scale that not even Dawkins would contemplate.
Human evolution is not Biblical.

 

[B-A-C]

Does anything in this thread affect your salvation?

1Tim 1:4; nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.
Tit 3:9; But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

 

[Waggles]

Read the Genesis narrative and, if you have a sound mind, you'll see it. Otherwise, go with Ellen G. Whote, pr Charles Taze Russell, or Joseph Smith and Mormon, or whomevers false teachings it is you follow.

Is that all you can do - slander and personal attacks because you cannot answer the problems arising from your doctrine?
Answer the question?
Did all the different peoples of this planet evolve from just two people (and later just from 8 survivors) ??
You guys just keep on refusing to answer questions. And you refuse to follow the narrative of scripture and keep on inserting your own ideas.
Scripture clearly qrites that Cain departed from Eden and went to Nod east of Eden. Then comes a wife. Scripture does not write that Cain took a sister with him.

 

[PloughBoy]

Keep on kicking the can, down the street like little kids and children. I going force you to grow up into "Unwanted Biblical Maturity"! For many of you still in need of milk. For Meat is only for the Strong. Young people, do not want to hear the Truth about their parents and what they do in the dark. I know I had a mother and father too.

 

[PloughBoy]

How do you get from just 8 members of one family from the Ark to all the many different human races/types in the world today in only 4,000 years?
You lot are preaching human evolution on a grand accelerated scale that not even Dawkins would contemplate.
Human evolution is not Biblical.

If Jacob had a Chemistry set, How come "Noah" can't have one?

 

[Waggles]

Does anything in this thread affect your salvation?
1Tim 1:4; nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.
Tit 3:9; But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

No it is not a salvation issue (I hope).
But it sure does expose the power of the church of Rome to influence Christian doctrine over the centuries and even those who claim not to be RCC (and ought to be free in thought and study) are still
in many ways products of mediaeval church doctrines.
The denial of the many scriptures in Revelation that identify Rome as the beast and Mystery Babylon is entertained by many non-Catholics who uphold the RCC deception of some great anti-Christ that will come
in the future to rule the world - and even evangelicals and other protestants cannot see what the church of Rome and the Papacy is about.

 

[JerryfromMass]

Is that all you can do - slander and personal attacks because you cannot answer the problems arising from your doctrine?
Answer the question?
Did all the different peoples of this planet evolve from just two people (and later just from 8 survivors) ??
You guys just keep on refusing to answer questions. And you refuse to follow the narrative of scripture and keep on inserting your own ideas.
Scripture clearly qrites that Cain departed from Eden and went to Nod east of Eden. Then comes a wife. Scripture does not write that Cain took a sister with him.

Yes, all humans came from Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve were created by God. Noah and his family repopulated the earth post-flood destruction of all humans.

How? God is able, that's how.

20The waters prevailed above the mountains, covering them fifteen cubits deep. 21And all flesh died that moved on the earth, birds, livestock, beasts, all swarming creatures that swarm on the earth, and all mankind. 22Everything on the dry land in whose nostrils was the breath of life died. 23He blotted out every living thing that was on the face of the ground, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens. They were blotted out from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those who were with him in the ark." Genesis 7:20-23.

 

[JerryfromMass]

Is that all you can do - slander and personal attacks because you cannot answer the problems arising from your doctrine?
Answer the question?
Did all the different peoples of this planet evolve from just two people (and later just from 8 survivors) ??
You guys just keep on refusing to answer questions. And you refuse to follow the narrative of scripture and keep on inserting your own ideas.
Scripture clearly qrites that Cain departed from Eden and went to Nod east of Eden. Then comes a wife. Scripture does not write that Cain took a sister with him.

My apologies. We just don't agree on whay the Bible teaches. That being said, please forgive me for my coarse words.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

The problem is that translators use the word day, while the original Hebrew word yom covers many definitions of time:
H3117 יום yôm
1) day, time, year
1a) day (as opposed to night)
1b) day (24 hour period)
1b1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
1b2) as a division of time
1b2a) a working day, a day’s journey
1c) days, lifetime (plural)
1d) time, period (general)
1e) year
1f) temporal references
1f1) today
1f2) yesterday
1f3) tomorrow

I see what you're saying...Just use the KISS principle.....Keep It Simple Silly.....When the bible talks of days, when we talk of days, we are usually speaking of a day 24 hours. Siimple as that.

 

[Garee]

NONE in scripture narrative.

Not a gospel requirement .

 

[Garee]

For me, most of what you wrote there was garbled babbling....Men were godly and women were ungodly? What? " The sons of man were the belivers, daughters of men non belivers ."

Simply . . . Sons of God as those who are born again of God .Daughters of men those not not of God but rather those born of men.. . or no second birth


Geneisis 6 . .The do not be unevenly yoked with unbelivers as daughters of men .

Son of God is never used to decribe fallen angel or lying spirts that have no DNA and therefore cannot procreate.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Simply . . . Sons of God as those who are born again of God .Daughters of men those not not of God but rather those born of men.. . or no second birth


Geneisis 6 . .The do not be unevenly yoked with unbelivers as daughters of men .

Son of God is never used to decribe fallen angel or lying spirts that have no DNA and therefore cannot procreate.

Garee the bible does not say that at all....The sons of God referred to in the Old Covenant were not men...They were angels... How did men get into heaven to have a conference with God? Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. In EVERY single reference in the Old Covenant the sons of God were angels... Every instance

You are correct though in that the women were human women born of mankind....Human men had no part and no choice at all in this event..

In the New Covenant the sons of God are born again men and women....

 

[Sue D.]

Then open your Bible and cite the verses that teach that Eve had daughters before the birth of Seth.

What you actually mean to say is: none are mentioned. The Bible is silent, but a reasonable mind can see that Adam and Eve obeyed God's first command to be fruitful and multiply. Therefore, it's more than reasonable to infer from the fact that the Bible says Cain and all the other men took wives and had children, that Adam and Eve were the progenitors of those wives.

Why wouldnt Eve and Adam had daughters for Cain to marry? Scripture states that there were people in the land of Nod -- just east of Eden -- a natural place for the brothers and sisters to go to. Doesnt mean that there was another race of people living there. Adam and Eve were the only parents giving birth to kids. As those kids grew up they mated with their other brothers and sisters. But it was over a lot of years. Ánd over time as they mated they had kids of their own. Aunts and uncles / neices and nephews.