Who / what were the Nephilim?

[Bendito]

God chose us in Christ not the angels to be his sons.
No angel has ever been called Gods son.
As for prayer, it may be answered in different ways
After all God is the judge of what is right and wrong.


3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love5He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,…

Here is the cool thing my friend...The fallen angels were the sons of God. God created them Now we are the sons of God. Why? We were born that way. When we are born again we are BORN sons of God, physically and spiritually. Which do you think will have the higher class? In the Hebrew 'sons' also refers to a member of a guild, order, class

 

[Bendito]

I am saying

Ok God created the angels and called them sons of God
Let us say that is what is talked about in JOB
But did God create the angels with sex organs?
We can safely say he did not
As Jesus makes clear they are sexless and do not marry
And are instead ministering spirits who help the saved
So who created their male sex organs to procreate with these daughters of men?
Or are we to now give creation abilities to satan now as well as calling his fallen angels sons of God?
You see how evil False demonic teaching piles evil upon evil.
Delete the thread.

Getting technical here! LOL We can safely say that angels have no sex organs.....How can we say that? Scriptures? No Then how? Jesus makes it clear that they are sexless and do not marry. Wrong. Jesus only said they do not marry. Where are you getting this inside information?
I'm either right here or you are waay off base in your learning...How did you come to these conclusions? You have a good time to convince me here. Go for it. I'm 'listening'
BTW.....The bible says these fallen angels are locked up in chains waiting for their judgment. 2 Pet.2:4 and Jude 1:6

 

[Listening]

Scripture never calls fallen angels sons of God
Even if you say he called angels his sons
God never called fallen angels sons
Ever!!!
He only called angels in obedience his sons
And like i said God was grieved with man after this sex occurred
He says he regrets making man because men disobeyed him and had sex with the daughters of those who were not calling upon Gods name.
Are you not acting like mere men?
God never says he regrets making A group of angels that were once his sons but now Fallen and can have sex with women.
If that was the case the whole bible would be full of warnings to watch out for those fallen angels in case women are raped by them or tricked by them.
Use you brain for goodness sake!

We never hear anything about them again,
Why?
Because they were not fallen angels at all!
Just sons of God ( men) who took un believing wives And bore children who became great leaders and trouble makers because they were Probably not in faith and had very good gene fathers ( the healthy and protected sons of God)

 

[Bendito]

Scripture never calls fallen angels sons of God
Even if you say he called angels his sons
Ne never called fallen angles sons
And like i said God was grieved with man after this sex occurred
He says he regrets making man because men disobeyed him and had sex with the daughters of those who were not calling upon Gods name.
God never says he regrets making A group of angels that were once his sons but now Fallen and can have sex with women.
If that was the case the whole bible would be full of warnings to watch out for those fallen angels in case women are raped by them or tricked by them.
Use you brain for goodness sake!

We never gear anything about them again,

Didn't say God called them that...Said the bible did. In Genesis 6:2 Ok If its in the bible God inspired it. So guess what? God did call them that.

Ok Lets do it this way. You said that fallen angels are demons..The bible says the fallen angels are locked up in chains waiting for judgment. So no demons walking the Earth. That means than mankind is sinning with no temptation to do so. Is that right? According to the bible temptation comes before sin. Read the book of James. The fallen angels sinned all on their own...That's why there is no redemption for them. Why are we the redeemed? If the sons of God that stole women and bred with them were men, why were the offspring giants?
Use my brain?! OMGoodness! That's what got me in trouble in the first place. Its why I finally gave up and accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior! My brain is only for doing math or something dumb. You do not hear about the fallen angels because they are locked up. They are helpless to molest any of our lovely ladies. They cannot attack any woman lady or otherwise.

What I'm wondering though is why will you not answer my questions to you?! I asked you if

Scripture never calls fallen angels sons of God
Even if you say he called angels his sons
God never called fallen angels sons
Ever!!!
He only called angels in obedience his sons
And like i said God was grieved with man after this sex occurred
He says he regrets making man because men disobeyed him and had sex with the daughters of those who were not calling upon Gods name.
Are you not acting like mere men?
God never says he regrets making A group of angels that were once his sons but now Fallen and can have sex with women.
If that was the case the whole bible would be full of warnings to watch out for those fallen angels in case women are raped by them or tricked by them.
Use you brain for goodness sake!

We never hear anything about them again,
Why?
Because they were not fallen angels at all!
Just sons of God ( men) who took un believing wives And bore children who became great leaders and trouble makers because they were Probably not in faith and had very good gene fathers ( the healthy and protected sons of God)

Ok Lets do it this way. You said that fallen angels are demons..That contradicts the bible...The bible says the fallen angels are locked up in chains waiting for judgment. So that means there are no demons walking the Earth. That means than mankind is sinning with no temptation to do so. Is that right? According to the bible temptation comes before sin. Read the book of James. The fallen angels sinned all on their own...That's why there is no redemption for them Why are we the redeemed?

If the sons of God that stole women and bred with them were men, why were the offspring giants?

Use my brain?! OMGoodness! That's what got me in trouble in the first place. Its why I finally gave up and accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior! My brain is only for doing math or something dumb.

You do not hear about the fallen angels because they are locked up. They are helpless to molest any of our lovely ladies. They cannot attack any woman lady or otherwise.

 

[Bendito]

really good post for info ..ive heard it taught that Goliath was one of the giants refered to ..dont know how true it is ..but i did enjoy this reading thank you ....Rev

Goliath was one of the giants mentioned. His two brothers were too

 

[Bendito]

Didn't say God called them that...Said the bible did. In Genesis 6:2 Ok If its in the bible God inspired it. So guess what? God did call them that.

Ok Lets do it this way. You said that fallen angels are demons..The bible says the fallen angels are locked up in chains waiting for judgment. So no demons walking the Earth. That means than mankind is sinning with no temptation to do so. Is that right? According to the bible temptation comes before sin. Read the book of James. The fallen angels sinned all on their own...That's why there is no redemption for them. Why are we the redeemed? If the sons of God that stole women and bred with them were men, why were the offspring giants?
Use my brain?! OMGoodness! That's what got me in trouble in the first place. Its why I finally gave up and accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior! My brain is only for doing math or something dumb. You do not hear about the fallen angels because they are locked up. They are helpless to molest any of our lovely ladies. They cannot attack any woman lady or otherwise.

What I'm wondering though is why will you not answer my questions to you?! I asked you if



Ok Lets do it this way. You said that fallen angels are demons..That contradicts the bible...The bible says the fallen angels are locked up in chains waiting for judgment. So that means there are no demons walking the Earth. That means than mankind is sinning with no temptation to do so. Is that right? According to the bible temptation comes before sin. Read the book of James. The fallen angels sinned all on their own...That's why there is no redemption for them Why are we the redeemed?

If the sons of God that stole women and bred with them were men, why were the offspring giants?

Use my brain?! OMGoodness! That's what got me in trouble in the first place. Its why I finally gave up and accepted Jesus as my Lord and savior! My brain is only for doing math or something dumb.

You do not hear about the fallen angels because they are locked up. They are helpless to molest any of our lovely ladies. They cannot attack any woman lady or otherwise.

What I'm wondering though is why will you not answer my questions to you?!

I asked you if you would consider it blasphemy if I said that Jesus went to hell?


Are you saying that there were no dinosaurs?


You said “Demons do not have bodies They Are without bodies , neither do they have angelic bodies
For that IS what they lost When they fell Into the pit of hell.”

If that is the case, if they are in hell, who tempts you to sin?

And lastly...Will you PLEASE read Genesis 6?

 

[Brad Huber]

Ok God created the angels and called them sons of God
Let us say that is what is talked about in JOB
But did God create the angels with sex organs?
We can safely say he did not
As Jesus makes clear they are sexless and do not marry
And are instead ministering spirits who help the saved
So who created their male sex organs to procreate with these daughters of men?
Or are we to now give creation abilities to satan now as well as calling his fallen angels sons of God?
You see how evil False demonic teaching piles evil upon evil.
Delete the thread.

God did not create angels with sex organs of course. He did not create them to have children at all, but eternal beings and spiritual beings. Angelic beings are spiritual of course, their natural state. But they have the ability to assume forms, like the form of a human that spoke to Abraham and Sarah and had a meal with them. Surely you understand simple physics that matter and energy can change from one form to the other, and you think angels cant despite the evidence in scripture alone. Take those blinders off and see the truth. A scientist today can take any mans s.perm and use it to impregnate a women, modifying the end resulting human to be shaped as they more so desire. Take that and the ability to change form, and the free choice that angels have (hence becoming fallen in some cases) and its not such a great leap. The teaching you have received on the matter has clouded your reason to where you cant even believe the scriptures that point otherwise, much less wisdom to see the truth when its staring you in the face.

 

[Listening]

Were fallen Angels Sons of God?

Here is a very good video by a christian teacher who teaches in the Spirit of Christ, truth.
I think it better to listen to God in this matter rather than men of wild speculations.

 

[Brad Huber]

Were fallen Angels Sons of God?

Here is a very good video by a christian teacher who teaches in the Spirit of Christ, truth.
I think it better to listen to God in this matter rather than men of wild speculations.

Very speculative. You chose to believe it, despite the facts otherwise. You must have been deeply ingrained by someone to believe it must be truth no matter what. Its not dangerous that you believe as you do, except that you condemn any who do not fall in line with your opinionated views. Learn from the Holy Spirit more than man, and you will see the truth as the Holy Spirit shows you and you will not be so open to false teachings.

 

[Listening]

Very speculative. You chose to believe it, despite the facts otherwise. You must have been deeply ingrained by someone to believe it must be truth no matter what. Its not dangerous that you believe as you do, except that you condemn any who do not fall in line with your opinionated views. Learn from the Holy Spirit more than man, and you will see the truth as the Holy Spirit shows you and you will not be so open to false teachings.

Anything that does not agree with sound doctrine is not of the truth
You would do well to heed to The Holy Spirit led sound doctrine in the video
For there is nothing to be gained by speculation.
We must obey the Holy Spirit and exalt the word above all things, or we end up in error, and what a dangerous and ungodly error the false teaching you are teaching is! For it goes nowhere and only leads to the idea that we wrestle Against flesh and blood enemies.

 

[Brad Huber]

Anything that does not agree with sound doctrine is not of the truth
You would do well to heed to The Holy Spirit led sound doctrine in the video
For there is nothing to be gained by speculation.
We must obey the Holy Spirit and exalt the word above all things, or we end up in error, and what a dangerous and ungodly error the false teaching you are teaching is! For it goes nowhere and only leads to the idea that we wrestle Against flesh and blood enemies.

The Holy Spirit DID speak to me about the video. He told me that the speaker was confused, and trying to manipulate others to believe as he does. It seems a bit like you, but the video speaker tries to be kinder about it. And what I believe has nothing to do with thinking I wrestle with flesh and blood enemies. You just threw that in to try and make me and others reading it think I might be wrong, more manipulation. I will gladly pray for your clarity about what you do and say. I guess that ends my speaking toward you, for you refuse to see the truth and I dont argue unnecessarily.

 

[Listening]

No one is edified by believing demonic supermen are the offspring of God's sons who are in fact really Fallen angels.

Now the spirit speaks expressly that in the last days men will not hold to sound doctrine and instead will teach doctrines of DEMONS.

A strong rebuke will be the only prudent remedy to such.

 

[Bendito]

Anything that does not agree with sound doctrine is not of the truth
You would do well to heed to The Holy Spirit led sound doctrine in the video
For there is nothing to be gained by speculation.
We must obey the Holy Spirit and exalt the word above all things, or we end up in error, and what a dangerous and ungodly error the false teaching you are teaching is! For it goes nowhere and only leads to the idea that we wrestle Against flesh and blood enemies.

Anything that does not agree with sound doctrine is not of the truth
You would do well to heed to The Holy Spirit led sound doctrine in the video
For there is nothing to be gained by speculation.
We must obey the Holy Spirit and exalt the word above all things, or we end up in error, and what a dangerous and ungodly error the false teaching you are teaching is! For it goes nowhere and only leads to the idea that we wrestle Against flesh and blood enemies.

There are as many doctrines as there are denominations. Can you say which is the true one? You're sharing opinion here, not doctrine. Agreed, there are two differing trains of thought here but the one that says that the sons of God, mentioned in context with the daughters of men, does not stand to scrutiny. How could human males mating with human females produce giants. And in such numbers?

 

[Brad Huber]

There are as many doctrines as there are denominations. Can you say which is the true one? You're sharing opinion here, not doctrine. Agreed, there are two differing trains of thought here but the one that says that the sons of God, mentioned in context with the daughters of men, does not stand to scrutiny. How could human males mating with human females produce giants. And in such numbers?

Yes, some of his doctrines are doctrines of men. He doesnt know anymore which is the truth and what was simply taught him by people he trusts, and it scares him to think he has been wrong in what he himself teaches. He is a decent sort though overall, smart about many things, but unfortunately his own smarts makes him think he doesnt need the teaching of the Holy Spirit, as if traditions alone will serve him well, but we know from scripture that traditions of the pharisees became more important that the truth, and the same may hold sway with him as well. Pray for the Friar, for he has done much good in his life, so I pray for a better path for him and believe he will see that path one day himself, just as Nicodemus did.

 

[Bendito]

Yes, some of his doctrines are doctrines of men. He doesnt know anymore which is the truth and what was simply taught him by people he trusts, and it scares him to think he has been wrong in what he himself teaches. He is a decent sort though overall, smart about many things, but unfortunately his own smarts makes him think he doesnt need the teaching of the Holy Spirit, as if traditions alone will serve him well, but we know from scripture that traditions of the pharisees became more important that the truth, and the same may hold sway with him as well. Pray for the Friar, for he has done much good in his life, so I pray for a better path for him and believe he will see that path one day himself, just as Nicodemus did.

Of course we will pray for him. No judgment here!

 

[Ceptor]

If the Nephilim actually existed both in pre-Noah times as well as during the civilizations created by Noah's family's offspring after the flood, why are there not fossils, graves, artifacts and other evidence that they existed?

I've done a lot of digging in a lot of fields on the internet in my life. I've seen evidence of giants. Even the secular world is aware of them because the Smithsonian is know to make anything related to "giant humans" disappear because it discredits their beloved theory of evolution. And the secular world is all over the dishonesty of the Smithsonian. It's a black hole for anything contrary to evolution. When the SECULAR world starts to condemn their own. Then how do you question what people say? Christian and secular say it's true, and who is denying it now? The Smithsonian??? Then of course, their are people who still victim to such obvious deceit.

If you would like websites to review, I have some I recently wrote down. If you would like me to find them and give you some links just send me an email and ask. I'll be glad to pull my papers out if you want them, and may search for a few more.

[email protected]

 

[Bendito]

I've done a lot of digging in a lot of fields on the internet in my life. I've seen evidence of giants. Even the secular world is aware of them because the Smithsonian is know to make anything related to "giant humans" disappear because it discredits their beloved theory of evolution. And the secular world is all over the dishonesty of the Smithsonian. It's a black hole for anything contrary to evolution. When the SECULAR world starts to condemn their own. Then how do you question what people say? Christian and secular say it's true, and who is denying it now? The Smithsonian??? Then of course, their are people who still victim to such obvious deceit.

If you would like websites to review, I have some I recently wrote down. If you would like me to find them and give you some links just send me an email and ask. I'll be glad to pull my papers out if you want them, and may search for a few more.

[email protected]

Ceptor Have you looked at L.A. Marzulli's Watcher series? Very very good!

 

[Ceptor]

No I haven't Bendito, but I'll certainly check it out!

Loch Nes monster

This is one of those claims that people like to go "oh this guy is loopy..." but I've seen so much, people's opinion's aren't quite so weighty anymore.

And Bendito has some stuff in that post that is far beyond this.. :laugh: But that's none of my business though. :whistle (Just kidding Bendito. )


There are tons of witnesses that say they have seen the loch nes.. And it is a dinosaur. A living breathing "millions of years old... blah blah"..... we all know better here. There are massive lakes and places people still claim to see them all the time. And despite the scrutiny and humiliation people put them through, they never change their stories. I've even seen older videos of people trying to catch it on camera (this was before the days photoshop and digital editing by-the-way) and there was a video I watched that caught something enormous in size and moved through the water incredibly fast.Their are no "whales" where this video was taken either, and it was obvious watching it wasn't one by how the water moved around it.

There are even tribes in africa in a swamp like region that they still have not explored and the people that live there have been shown pictures of dinosaurs in a book. They will flip the pages and eventually when they come across the loch nes, the people start pointing at the pictures and repeating the name they use in their language for the massive creature.

The same is the case in the amazon of south america, whose waterways are indescribably large. There are a number of researchers that have claimed to seen it there, drawn pictures etc, over the years.

 

[Ceptor]

No I haven't Bendito, but I'll certainly check it out!

Loch Nes monster

This is one of those claims that people like to go "oh this guy is loopy..." but I've seen so much, people's opinion's are like believing hollywood.

And Bendito has some stuff in that post that is far beyond this. :laugh: But that's none of my business though. :whistle (Just kidding Bendito. )


There are tons of witnesses that say they have seen the loch nes.. And it is a dinosaur. A living breathing "millions of years old... blah blah"..... we all know better here. There are massive lakes and places people still claim to see them all the time. And despite the scrutiny and humiliation people put them through, they never change their stories. I've even seen older videos of people trying to catch it on camera (this was before the days photoshop and digital editing by-the-way) and there was a video I watched that caught something enormous in size and it moved through the water incredibly fast. There are no "whales" where this video was taken either, and it was obvious watching that it wasn't one by how the water moved around it.

There are even tribes in africa in a swamp like region that they still have not explored and the people that live there have been shown pictures of dinosaurs in a book. They will flip the pages and eventually when they come across the loch nes, the people start pointing at the pictures and repeating the name they use in their language for the massive creature.

The same is the case in the amazon of south america, whose waterways are indescribably large. There are a number of researchers that have claimed to seen it there, drawn pictures etc, over the years.

There is evidence of a lot of things people never see. But the ignorance of the populace is no guide for knowledge. People think dinosaurs aren't in the Bible. But that's a perfect example of this general ignorance. The word dragon was the original term used for dinosaurs. It's used in the Bible over thirty times.

 

[Ceptor]

I love technology these days. You edit a post, it posts the old and new.

I'm very ready for God's new world. This one pales in comparison.

You guys can rate my re-selection of words now. I'll know if I made more or less sense with them.

:laugh: