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Who / what were the Nephilim?

I love technology these days. You edit a post, it posts the old and new.

I'm very ready for God's new world. This one pales in comparison.

You guys can rate my re-selection of words now. I'll know if I made more or less sense with them.

:laugh:
No I haven't Bendito, but I'll certainly check it out!




This is one of those claims that people like to go "oh this guy is loopy..." but I've seen so much, people's opinion's are like believing hollywood.

And Bendito has some stuff in that post that is far beyond this. :laugh: But that's none of my business though. :whistle (Just kidding Bendito. :) )


There are tons of witnesses that say they have seen the loch nes.. And it is a dinosaur. A living breathing "millions of years old... blah blah"..... we all know better here. There are massive lakes and places people still claim to see them all the time. And despite the scrutiny and humiliation people put them through, they never change their stories. I've even seen older videos of people trying to catch it on camera (this was before the days photoshop and digital editing by-the-way) and there was a video I watched that caught something enormous in size and it moved through the water incredibly fast. There are no "whales" where this video was taken either, and it was obvious watching that it wasn't one by how the water moved around it.

There are even tribes in africa in a swamp like region that they still have not explored and the people that live there have been shown pictures of dinosaurs in a book. They will flip the pages and eventually when they come across the loch nes, the people start pointing at the pictures and repeating the name they use in their language for the massive creature.

The same is the case in the amazon of south america, whose waterways are indescribably large. There are a number of researchers that have claimed to seen it there, drawn pictures etc, over the years.

There is evidence of a lot of things people never see. But the ignorance of the populace is no guide for knowledge. People think dinosaurs aren't in the Bible. But that's a perfect example of this general ignorance. The word dragon was the original term used for dinosaurs. It's used in the Bible over thirty times.

I just answered this! Then I took a mouthful of coffee and bumped my computer. That juggled all the words around and changed what I wrote into something completely different! Now I have to write it all over again. Wah! LOL

Loch Nes Countless sightings...Then they search the lake with sonar, video cameras, visual, radar and what did they find? Nada! ...Sasquatch (Yeti, Abominable Snowman, Bukwas, Tsadjatko, this guy has lots of names depending on where he was seen) He s seen all the time. Track him, cameras, wait where he was seen...Nothing at all. What's going on here? Well it's my opinion that these creatures are real. Its my belief that they are actual chimera. They are engineered, built if you will, by the Nephilim for pupose. Satan is still working to do what he has been trying to do since the creation of man. He is trying to recreate man in his image. Many of these creatures are a result of that mad quest. Failures yes, but they do still serve a purpose. Really! Look at the effect a sighting of these creatures has...It focuses attention on them and off of God where it should be...until it becomes too late to think about God?

I'm just spouting opinion here but something to think about? I do know, however, that the Nephilim are alive and well today. Now I find that there have been sightings of pterodactyls in Papua New Guinea....Twenty foot tall giants living in cities in the Solomon Islands, where at the end of WW 2 there were many reports of giants eating soldiers of America and Japan..apparently the giants were not picky. They liked both American and Japanese cuisine
Now I'm rambling. I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and puff puff.........
 
Yes, some of his doctrines are doctrines of men. He doesnt know anymore which is the truth and what was simply taught him by people he trusts, and it scares him to think he has been wrong in what he himself teaches. He is a decent sort though overall, smart about many things, but unfortunately his own smarts makes him think he doesnt need the teaching of the Holy Spirit, as if traditions alone will serve him well, but we know from scripture that traditions of the pharisees became more important that the truth, and the same may hold sway with him as well. Pray for the Friar, for he has done much good in his life, so I pray for a better path for him and believe he will see that path one day himself, just as Nicodemus did.
Well i trust what God says not man.
God says his sons are men who believe in him

He would NOT call those things in rebellion to him sons, ever!
Even if you are talking about angels
No angel in rebellion to God would God call a son.
The Spirit of God reveals this to be the truth, to me.
And frankly, its obvious.
 
Then they search the lake with sonar, video cameras, visual, radar and what did they find? Nada!

Actually, they haven't found anything they can say is conclusive concerning loch nes, but I've seen where sonar reading in the Amazon river showed trace outlines of what could very well be the loch nes. They can't use subs though because it's so mucky and muddy you can't see past your face underwater.

Now I find that there have been sightings of pterodactyls in Papua New Guinea

Is this recent? I'd be incredibly interested in knowing about current stuff. I began including a reference to them in the above post, but didn't want to go overboard. The loch nes has far more evidence and witnesses concerning it.

Nephilim are alive and well today

I want to know about this too! Give me the goodies Bendito, sharing is caring! Cough it up!!! :laugh:
 
Actually, they haven't found anything they can say is conclusive concerning loch nes, but I've seen where sonar reading in the Amazon river showed trace outlines of what could very well be the loch nes. They can't use subs though because it's so mucky and muddy you can't see past your face underwater.



Is this recent? I'd be incredibly interested in knowing about current stuff. I began including a reference to them in the above post, but didn't want to go overboard. The loch nes has far more evidence and witnesses concerning it.



I want to know about this too! Give me the goodies Bendito, sharing is caring! Cough it up!!! :laugh:

ROFL Ok I first heard of the pterodactyls about twenty years ago. I learned about the giants on the Solomons about two months ago.
Steve Quayle on the giants You may find something on the pteradactlyls on youtube and then go from there

Here Steve Quayle

Pterodactyls

I will add though. This is important that a Christian knows about this kind of thing but the most important is the direct Word of God. Study your bible ten, twenty times more than you study this.
Look up LA Marzulli, Tom Horn, Chris Putnam, Steve Quayle, and Chuck Missler. All of these guys will give you good, real material.
 
..Sasquatch (Yeti, Abominable Snowman, Bukwas, Tsadjatko, this guy has lots of names depending on where he was seen) He s seen all the time. Track him, cameras, wait where he was seen...Nothing at all. What's going on here?

Almost forgot about this. I've studied a lot on "aliens" or "extra-terrestrials"... if you will. The problem I've found, is there are numerous.. and I mean numerousss claims that they disappear at the name of Jesus. A person is in an "abduction", sometimes in a ship on a table etc, whatever the claimed case is... They know Jesus, or have heard enough to think of Him, in their mind call on Him "Jesus help me" and everything vanishes and they are home in bed. I call that demons playing games.

Now, I've heard of the sasquatch / bigfoot deal a lot. And something stuck out to me about the descriptions I hear. I was researching aliens / ufo stuff at a point and there is a story where a man on his farm saw a "ufo" land in the field next to his house. He grabbed his rifle and walked outside, and there were two hairy creatures walking by the fence it landed next to. They started growling and walking toward him and he fired two tracer bullets at them. The "ship" suddenly vanished into thin air, and the hairy creatures ran into the woods.

The family in the house had called the police and a state trooper showed up. The man that had encountered the two creatures was barking at everyone and acting like a dog since the creatures left and finally after awhile came to his senses.

Now I said all that to say this. The description of the things were hairy and stunk with a horrid odor, like sulfur.

The big foot / sasquatch is always seen, always disappears leaves NOTHING but prints (which "aliens" do a lot, usually burnt areas on people or the ground) stinks horribly and is a hairy creature, just like the "aliens" from that story I just told. There are tons of people looking for them, and in places where there are lots of people and little place to hide often. I don't believe the things are "natural." Do I believe the loch nes is, yes, and the pterodactyls too. But I've seen photos of carcasses of pterodactyls and of dead loch nes. Never seen a single dead "big foot" lol

Either he dies somewhere and leaves a carcass eventually...

Or........ there are demons playing with more than "alien" deceit. I can't prove that. But the things I've seen demons doing in the secular world leads me to believe a lot of things similar in nature to these events and sightings are their doing.

Maybe there is evidence they are natural and I haven't seen it. But it is awfully funny how easily something seen so so often in the US can keep from being found when hunted. People can find mountain lions... do you realize how hard that is? And they can't find this oversized hairy creature? lol I have problems with believing that. Just doesn't line up quite right.
 
I will add though. This is important that a Christian knows about this kind of thing but the most important is the direct Word of God. Study your bible ten, twenty times more than you study this.

You can say that again!!!!! :thumbsup:
 
Almost forgot about this. I've studied a lot on "aliens" or "extra-terrestrials"... if you will. The problem I've found, is there are numerous.. and I mean numerousss claims that they disappear at the name of Jesus. A person is in an "abduction", sometimes in a ship on a table etc, whatever the claimed case is... They know Jesus, or have heard enough to think of Him, in their mind call on Him "Jesus help me" and everything vanishes and they are home in bed. I call that demons playing games.

Now, I've heard of the sasquatch / bigfoot deal a lot. And something stuck out to me about the descriptions I hear. I was researching aliens / ufo stuff at a point and there is a story where a man on his farm saw a "ufo" land in the field next to his house. He grabbed his rifle and walked outside, and there were two hairy creatures walking by the fence it landed next to. They started growling and walking toward him and he fired two tracer bullets at them. The "ship" suddenly vanished into thin air, and the hairy creatures ran into the woods.

The family in the house had called the police and a state trooper showed up. The man that had encountered the two creatures was barking at everyone and acting like a dog since the creatures left and finally after awhile came to his senses.

Now I said all that to say this. The description of the things were hairy and stunk with a horrid odor, like sulfur.

The big foot / sasquatch is always seen, always disappears leaves NOTHING but prints (which "aliens" do a lot, usually burnt areas on people or the ground) stinks horribly and is a hairy creature, just like the "aliens" from that story I just told. There are tons of people looking for them, and in places where there are lots of people and little place to hide often. I don't believe the things are "natural." Do I believe the loch nes is, yes, and the pterodactyls too. But I've seen photos of carcasses of pterodactyls and of dead loch nes. Never seen a single dead "big foot" lol

Either he dies somewhere and leaves a carcass eventually...

Or........ there are demons playing with more than "alien" deceit. I can't prove that. But the things I've seen demons doing in the secular world leads me to believe a lot of things similar in nature to these events and sightings are their doing.

Maybe there is evidence they are natural and I haven't seen it. But it is awfully funny how easily something seen so so often in the US can keep from being found when hunted. People can find mountain lions... do you realize how hard that is? And they can't find this oversized hairy creature? lol I have problems with believing that. Just doesn't line up quite right.

LOLOL Look at the material I just gave you. Esp. Marzulli and Missler Then lets talk again...Aliens are not from other planets!! They are inter-dimensional beings
Aliens are demons! Check it.
 
inter-dimensiona

Well said! Another point I was going to make, but didn't. The "ufos" break the laws of physics making right turns at speeds that aren't possible for a physical object to do without destroying itself. (among other numerous indicators)

The sad thing is the entire world is going to swallow it hook, line, and sinker because they want it. It's God's strong delusion Paul spoke of.

There's no point in trying to show secular people aliens are demons. It's like you said, it's in the Bible. Preaching the Gospel is what dispels all lies. They are too blind to see any of it until they see Jesus.

Thanks for the vids. Going to take me awhile to watch them on this connection that's slower than frozen water. Time to multi-task. :coffee:
 
Well said! Another point I was going to make, but didn't. The "ufos" break the laws of physics making right turns at speeds that aren't possible for a physical object to do without destroying itself. (among other numerous indicators)

The sad thing is the entire world is going to swallow it hook, line, and sinker because they want it. It's God's strong delusion Paul spoke of.

There's no point in trying to show secular people aliens are demons. It's like you said, it's in the Bible. Preaching the Gospel is what dispels all lies. They are too blind to see any of it until they see Jesus.

Thanks for the vids. Going to take me awhile to watch them on this connection that's slower than frozen water. Time to multi-task. :coffee:

Oh! You smot!! That's why it's so important that Christians know about it...In the soon coming great deception they will show up and claim to be from some advanced race living in some star cluster and claim to be the ones who seeded us on this planet. Now we're in trouble and they are here to help. If you don't know.....you'll get sucked in and be lost. You 'll soon see how much sense this makes
 
gients

ok this one is interesting but I fail to see why people take the speculative way instead of the dead obvious answer or maybe its just me, anyway, there is no reason whatsoever to connect the sons of God to fallen angels in fact fallen angels are not of GOd neither are fallen man unless they accept Jesus which the fallen angels do not.

second there where two classes of people on the earth in those days eg the cananites and the sethites and sethits followed GOd while the cannanites did not. hence sons of GOd eg sethits who followed GOd were attracted to the daughters of men eg the cananites and GOd always warns about being unequally yoked with unbelievers.

second we are not told that the gients were a result of this union we are simply told that in those days there were gients.

sorry for spelling hope this clears a few things blessings

  • Wow! This one is all wrong...FYI the Canaanites were giants. Nephilim. They were not even human but chimera.
  • There is NO reference to the followers of God mentioned as sons in the Old Covenant...Why? In the Old Covenant God had no sons.
  • When Jesus died and rose again God adopted us, making us sons/daughters of God....Not before...
 
We (humanity) are children of God despite our wayward behavior. Why could not fallen angels be sons of God? The book of Enoch was found amoung the dead sea scrolls in addition to books of the old testament, and also the book of giants. Now the Nephilim I believe to be children of fallen angels and woman, and those children died in battle with each other or in the great flood, never the less, no place was made specifically for their spirits after the death of the body, so they became evil spirits roaming the earth, who are angry at God and man.

Brad I have only one argument to your post here...All born again believers are the sons/daughters of God. not all humanity...We are adopted to sonship/daughtership when we are born again. The old man dies and is born of God
 
Humans are born "un-saved". There may an age of accountability grace for a while, but eventually we have
to make a choice "to become a son/daughter of God. Angels are created "saved". Like humans they can reject
God (Satan is a good example, also the angels in Jude).

It may be that the "sons of God" remain sons of God even if they are fallen (the prodigal son didn't quit being
the father's son while he was out squandering his life away). Although I find it interesting that angels cannot
be redeemed. There is no grace/forgiveness for fallen angels anywhere in the Bible.

The other possibility is that they were "sons of God" up until the point they actually sinned.
When the "sons of God, saw that the daughter of men were beautiful" they hadn't actually sinned yet.
 
Sons of God is a translated terminology referring to angelic beings. Whether fallen or not, the terminology applies to them both. It means "Created directly by God's hand" - as in they were not "born" indirectly from another created being. Adam, was a Son of God in this terminology, but Adam's son Abel was not.

It has nothing to do with sin in these passages whatsoever.

Also, I find it highly unlikely these beings had sexual relations with women on a intimate level. While I won't go into descriptive details (because many here lack the context to believe the details) - These angels are far more intelligent than mankind and are the cause of much of man's understandings of genetics and technology.

The "offspring" between angelic being and woman is very complicated and even WITH all the details available to us in modern times only God fully understands the complexity of it. But it's much more likely akin to cloning and mixing species than sexual acts. The Bible says nothing has been done under the sun that hasn't been done before. If you think technology is new and that these heavenly beings didn't have it before you held your smartphone in the 21st century, then you have much research to do to catch up. To those who disbelieve, there is no explaining it to them. There is no point in me "debating" such notions when I understand their inability to believe it.

Take it or leave it, the nephilim are evil beings that are half human and half angel which were created by the "fallen angels" because they envied humans ability to procreate, and also to carry out evil agendas on earth. The Sons of God means the beings which were created directly by God, just as Adam was. There is no other meaning for this description of a creation. If you want the details, Google is available to you. You'll need to understand the meaning of the phrase in Hebrew and not in english.

I respectfully disagree after 13 years of studying these things that it has anything to do with if or when a being sinned.
 
Brad I have only one argument to your post here...All born again believers are the sons/daughters of God. not all humanity...We are adopted to sonship/daughtership when we are born again. The old man dies and is born of God

What do humans call the people they "helped" create, even if they were turned over to an adoption agency? Even if they are not currently raising them, what do they call them?
 
Respectfully brother, that sounds like a straw man Brad. What we call things is a complete disconnect to what the original language of the Canon was conveying in it's sentiments.

Translating language, Theology itself, and interpretation doesn't fall hand in hand with basic phraseology of humanity's definitions and descriptions.

Sadly, it's not quite that simple. If it were, there wouldn't be any misunderstanding or discrepancies concerning any part of Scripture.

But there are, and a grand many of them.

John 8:44

Jesus doesn't share such a notion.
 
I think Jesus' words are the Lord's wisdom? (Rhetorical) Though there are some that don't believe Him to be God, I would hope that isn't the case in this place.

Fortunately, my intention was never to convince anyone. Their own studies must do that. If your intention is to convince people, it will be a long hard battle for life.

You can't convince a man against himself. All you can do is provide information. Even God doesn't do this under normal circumstances. It's called free will, or the ability to make your own decisions. Good or Evil, Right or Wrong, God or Satan. God only administers consequences.

To those who disbelieve, there is no explaining it to them. There is no point in me "debating" such notions when I understand their inability to believe it.

Take it or leave it

If you want the details, Google is available to you. You'll need to understand the meaning of the phrase in Hebrew and not in english.
 
I hear Jesus's words even without scripture being quoted. Its easy to pick certain scriptures to back up what you want to believe. Ask Jesus who is God's children and wait for His answer. I think you are thinking of the Good sons and daughters, the true children of God.
 
I hear Jesus's words even without scripture being quoted.
But, absolutely old friend. His sheep recognize His voice which is most the certainly whether it corresponds verbatim with a written verse of scripture or not. We must hear His voice and know the difference between it and other voices. There are imitators around...
 
That's all dandy, and I agree with what you say to an extent. But if we follow the example given by Jesus - scripture and the prophets inspired to write them are the words of God. Even God Himself quoted scripture when rebuking Satan Himself. If God sees the need to use it, how is any unholy man today better?

He said, she said, is a discussion that has no foundation. Jesus certainly speaks to us regardless if we have scripture around (such as remote world locations). But to set God's work of 6,000 years of written Word to the side when He made it readily available to me is mocking Him and all He's done for me.

These are just my sentiments. I don't believe in telling people, "I don't care what scripture says, I hear God's voice without it."

Not only Jesus, but no disciple of His that walked with Him on earth disregarded the weight of His written words. It is the wise man that regards these words.

Matthew 7:24

John 1:1

To each his own, but as food for thought... If you had no scripture, you had not known the Nephilim ever existed. How then can you disregard the scripture on what they are?
 
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