Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?

[Bill]

@PloughBoy comes across as someone that does not actually care to teach. So regardless of being deep, if he does not apply scripture in rightly dividing the word of truth, then how is any of his "deep" post done in "humor" as supposedly teaching when it is at the other's expense? And you had acknowledged this also as deep humor going over my head, did you not?

If a person has strong discernment, he can determine when a person speaks or if the Holy Spirit speaks through them.

Same goes with reading or hearing another that is speaking.

This is why i have so often on this websight have urged all to use those Gifts of Discernment.

It is why all should seek the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

We know from scripture, not all who are Baptized in the Water will automatically recieve the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. And that these 2 Baptisms are separate from eachother.

For what does the Baptism of Water do, exactly. And what does the Baptism of the Holy Spirit do exactly.

 

[Bill]

What is their name?

God

 

[detniona]

God

What is the name of God?

 

[Bill]

Maybe we need to take a step back to clarify things

At least for myself and many i know here . The Trinity that is God , includes God the Farher , God the Son and God the Holy Spirit .

This is the mystery of God to us , that the Three who are individuals are also One and an Individual who we call the Trinity.

In my own life i have experience each including the Trinity as One

 

[Bill]

What is the name of God?

The name above all names is Jesus . As all creation was created for Jesus

 

[detniona]

The name above all names is Jesus . As all creation was created for Jesus

The name of God is Jesus. Jesus is the name of the living God.
True or false?

 

[detniona]

Maybe we need to take a step back to clarify things

At least for myself and many i know here . The Trinity that is God , includes God the Farher , God the Son and God the Holy Spirit .

This is the mystery of God to us , that the Three who are individuals are also One and an Individual who we call the Trinity.

In my own life i have experience each including the Trinity as One

Jesus (English) Yahshua (Hebrew) is a human being(man)
who entered into this present world by way of birth of a woman(Mary)
from the union of a woman(Mary) and the Holy Ghost(God).
(Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary
was espoused to Joseph, before they came together,
she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.)
He is the Christ(Messiah) the Son of man and God from the union of the Holy Ghost(God) and the Woman(Mary).
(And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall
come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall
be called the Son of God.)
Jesus (English) Yahshua (Hebrew) is the Word
(In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.) made flesh (And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.) by way of birth of a woman(Mary)from the union of a woman(Mary) and the Holy Ghost(God).

Maybe this will help you, maybe it won't.

 

[PloughBoy]

Can you post something that makes sense, that is actually connected to the post you are trying to disprove?

So, like i told you. You do not have to believe in the Deity of Christ. However, He does., and you can deal with that., PB.

What post are you referring to?

Just because I posted a reply post #254 does not mean; that you would understand it. Now if you do not understand it, it was not meant for you. So you might consider, getting on your horse and ride on down to the next corral. [Thread].

PS. Did you understand that?

Adios

 

[PloughBoy]

The name of God is Jesus. Jesus is the name of the living God.
True or false?

“Tetragrammaton”

 

[GodB4Us]

If a person has strong discernment, he can determine when a person speaks or if the Holy Spirit speaks through them.

Same goes with reading or hearing another that is speaking.

This is why i have so often on this websight have urged all to use those Gifts of Discernment.

It is why all should seek the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

We know from scripture, not all who are Baptized in the Water will automatically recieve the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. And that these 2 Baptisms are separate from eachother.

For what does the Baptism of Water do, exactly. And what does the Baptism of the Holy Spirit do exactly.

If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God has raised Him from the dead, you are saved; hence born again of the Holy Ghost.

For a believer to seek a baptism with the Holy Ghost by a sign or as proof of salvation is to deny the promise for all those that come to & believe in Jesus Christ.

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.... 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

 

[Bill]

Jesus (English) Yahshua (Hebrew) is a human being(man)
who entered into this present world by way of birth of a woman(Mary)
from the union of a woman(Mary) and the Holy Ghost(God).
(Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary
was espoused to Joseph, before they came together,
she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.)
He is the Christ(Messiah) the Son of man and God from the union of the Holy Ghost(God) and the Woman(Mary).
(And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall
come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall
be called the Son of God.)
Jesus (English) Yahshua (Hebrew) is the Word
(In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.) made flesh (And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.) by way of birth of a woman(Mary)from the union of a woman(Mary) and the Holy Ghost(God).

Maybe this will help you, maybe it won't.

Jesus is fully human and fully God.

Jesus is the Word become flesh.

Please read John's Gospel chapter 1

 

[Bill]

At Pentecost they did for why Jesus told them to wait.

This is why i say scripture shows us the water baptism and Holy Spirit Baptism show us to be 2 different Baptisms

 

[Bill]

If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ & that God has raised Him from the dead, you are saved; hence born again of the Holy Ghost.

For a believer to seek a baptism with the Holy Ghost by a sign or as proof of salvation is to deny the promise for all those that come to & believe in Jesus Christ.

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.

Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.... 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Being Born Again in Jesus and being Baptised in the Holy Spirit are 2 separate things

 

[Bill]

“Tetragrammaton”

"Is Jesus the name of God? Or God the name of Jesus?"

For those who follow Jesus, i really hope we came have better things to talk about that this.

Might as well ask is water the same as ice, and is ice the same as steam and is steam the same as water.

Because in hindsight, this explains the Trinity better than most i have seen here.

Sorry Ploughboy, to say this on your post. Is meant for the others

 

[GodB4Us]

This is why i say scripture shows us the water baptism and Holy Spirit Baptism show us to be 2 different Baptisms

But the only baptism that counts is the One Jesus baptizes us with as the Father sends this baptism with the Holy Ghost when Jesus was no longer present with them but have gone to the Father for all who believe in Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.... 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[GodB4Us]

Being Born Again in Jesus and being Baptised in the Holy Spirit are 2 separate things

No. It is not.

Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many.

Only one drink of the One Spirit is how we were all baptized by faith in Jesus Christ.

 

[Bill]

No. It is not.

Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

That is correct, the Baptism of Water , coming into the family.

 

[Bill]

But the only baptism that counts is the One Jesus baptizes us with as the Father sends this baptism with the Holy Ghost when Jesus was no longer present with them but have gone to the Father for all who believe in Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.... 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Yes The Baptism of Water binds us into the family. And once we grow up in this family. Just like the Apostles had to grow up. They became the fertile soil inwhich the Holy Spirit could dwell

 

[GodB4Us]

That is correct, the Baptism of Water , coming into the family.

I believe that baptism is the baptism with the Holy Ghost at our salvation moment when we are born again of the Spirit by believing in Jesus Christ.

Look at the Gentiles in how they were saved by believing in Jesus Christ to receive the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Ghost before they even confessed Him with their mouths or gone forward to get water baptized in His name.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many.

Only one drink of the One Spirit is how we were all baptized by faith in Jesus Christ.

 

[GodB4Us]

Yes The Baptism of Water binds us into the family. And once we grow up in this family. Just like the Apostles had to grow up. They became the fertile soil inwhich the Holy Spirit could dwell

The baptism of water has nothing to do with salvation nor binding us into the family.

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.... 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

So neither water baptism nor anything else as if done by the will of the flesh or the will od men, but by believing in Him is how we are saved and born again into the family of God as the sons of God.