Elect according to the foreknowledge of God

[Shaolin]

Greetings Shaolin,

please do not be rude to other Members and please stop trying to undermine the staff here at TalkJesus


thank you ....><>

I am doing neither.

You are welcome.

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[Shaolin]

You mean you want to “correct” the words of God. Anyone who has to “change” the words of God, and to “correct” what God really meant to say, is pushing false doctrine.

You are not doing yourself any favors by this nonsense, steward of false doctrine.

I have not changed anything in the Word of God, what I did was correct the translation you were using. If you are going to act like this then...well...

I would use some brain power before posting if I were you, and stop bias defending and start seeking the truth of God's Word.

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[Shaolin]

You mean you want to “correct” the words of God. Anyone who has to “change” the words of God, and to “correct” what God really meant to say, is pushing false doctrine.

Here...for your edification, try to learn some truth:

Election – What does Scripture actually teach?

and...

Corrections Series: #3 False Teachings on Predestination

Although I seriously don't believe you will read these scholarly articles because you are a bias defender and not a truth seeker, I have posted them anyway for others who will read them to defend the truth against the false doctrines that you are spreading here.

Keep in mind this passage:

2 John 1:9
Whoever does not abide in the teachings of Christ, but instead goes beyond what has been taught, that person does not have God. Those who do abide in His teaching, the same has both the Father and the Son.

What you have been promoting here in these 8 pages on this thread is false doctrine. I advise you to repent, turn to the truth of God and get saved.

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[StewardoftheMystery]

You are not doing yourself any favors by this nonsense, steward of false doctrine.

I’m not the one trying to change the meaning of Gods words. I just post them and you try to tell us why God’s words need to be corrected.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

What you have been promoting here in these 8 pages on this thread is false doctrine.

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All you have proven is that you have to change the words of God in order to push your false doctrine.

 

[Shaolin]

All you have proven is that you have to change the words of God in order to push your false doctrine.

Again, I changed nothing. Your English translation is NOT the Word of God, the original Greek manuscripts are. If you can't understand that simple basic fact then you have a lot of problems.

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[AnneOminous]

Again, I changed nothing. Your English translation is NOT the Word of God, the original Greek manuscripts are. If you can't understand that simple basic fact then you have a lot of problems.

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The word of God is neither english nor greek nor hebrew. It is spirit and must be discerned by spirit.

For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Man-- the soil man, the earth man, the clay man, the red man, becomes the vessel that the son of God, -the seed- -the son- is filled with. And from this one act of love where the Father sends a son the sole (soul) purpose is expressly to produce something pleasing. To produce something of value from this garden of life. A man (adam) to bring forth life from the soil (adamah). If you can understand (and I know you do) that the soul is the soil and that the seed is the spirit, you will understand that the seed is planted in the soil for a season. It serves the soil, and brings forth fruit- it produces fruit with seed, ten, sixty, a hundredfold and having completed it's service it is judged by it's record.... what it accomplished during it's growing season. What kind of harvest was produced.

It all seems simple enough. But this story isn't simple. For just as there was a Sower who planted His seed in this adam, there was an enemy who 'came while His men were sleeping' and sowed darnel in the same field- the very same soil where the good seed was planted. And like the good seed, these darnel poison the soil and ruin the wheat crop producing bad flour from which would come bad bread- toxic and fungal, to make men dizzy and lethargic. But both seeds grow alongside one another for the whole season, until the end of the age.

You must be born again of the Holy Spirit and be made a “new man”in Christ. This seed is not given at birth, but at “rebirth”when you receive the promise of the Father.

Luke 24:49
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Here is the promise of the Father…

John 20:22
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:”


The first man Adam is born of “the flesh,”the born again man is born of the seed of promise in Christ by the Holy Spirit. ( reborn of Spirit)

Romans 9:8
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

 

[AnneOminous]

You must be born again of the Holy Spirit and be made a “new man”in Christ. This seed is not given at birth, but at “rebirth”when you receive the promise of the Father.

Luke 24:49
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

Here is the promise of the Father…

John 20:22
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:”


The first man Adam is born of “the flesh,”the born again man is born of the seed of promise in Christ by the Holy Spirit. ( reborn of Spirit)

Romans 9:8
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

You don't know what you are talking about. I know, that doesn't stop you from talking.

The "Holy Ghost" is not the seed. Scripture calls it the spirit of truth. Jesus, as recorded in John 16 calls it the helper... (parakletos in Greek, ezer in Hebrew) and it could not be given until he went away. Until he ascended to where he came from. What is it? It's Trouble. With a capital T and rhymes with P and that stands for pool! Right here in River City.

Jacob's Trouble. It's for a purpose and through it we are never alone.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

You don't know what you are talking about. I know, that doesn't stop you from talking.

The "Holy Ghost" is not the seed. Scripture calls it the spirit of truth. Jesus, as recorded in John 16 calls it the helper... (parakletos in Greek, ezer in Hebrew) and it could not be given until he went away. Until he ascended to where he came from. What is it? It's Trouble. With a capital T and rhymes with P and that stands for pool! Right here in River City.

Jacob's Trouble. It's for a purpose and through it we are never alone.

I know perfectly what it is I’m talking about, you just don’t have ears to hear.

Christ is the seed of promise which enters into God’s elect via the Holy Spirit.

Galatians 3:14-16​

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King James Version​

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14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive “the promise of the Spirit” through faith.
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to “thy seed,” which is “Christ.”

 

[Shaolin]

The word of God is neither english nor greek nor hebrew. It is spirit and must be discerned by spirit.

For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

More esoteric nonsense straight out of the New Age movement.

The Word of God is as it has been written, which is why when the apostles and Christ referred to it, they quoted it. I cannot quote vain imaginations out of your own biased mind.

Furthermore, if there is no concrete Word of God, then you can claim anything you want as His Word...which is just new age nonsense.

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[AnneOminous]

More esoteric nonsense straight out of the New Age movement.

The Word of God is as it has been written, which is why when the apostles and Christ referred to it, they quoted it. I cannot quote vain imaginations out of your own biased mind.

Furthermore, if there is no concrete Word of God, then you can claim anything you want as His Word...which is just new age nonsense.

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pffft..... more dogma.

People wrote their accounts on paper,papyrus or lambskin or whatever.... first oral traditions, then recorded. Then MEN assembled those stories and bound them in a book.... actually 66 or 80 books depending on who you ask- and called it the Bible. That is NOT the word of God. It's a collection of stories. Get over yourself.

 

[Luminary]

You are close...the soul is part of the spirit. The soul is the emotional and intellectual part of a person...when your physical body dies you will have all of your memories from this life (unless God removes certain ones if they cause pain), that's because the soul is part of the spirit. If you draw a circle diagram with three consecutively larger circles, the smaller center one represents the soul, the next larger circle represents you (the spirit man), and the third outer circle represents the physical body. The soul is NOT part of the physical body...look in Revelation...when John says he saw the souls of the saved, he is referring not to physical bodies, but the spirits and souls of the righteous dead.

You also have to remember to look closely at the context in which the word soul is used...because context gives you the meaning of the word. Sometimes it refers only to a person individually (4 souls were on the ship) with NO reference to spirit whatsoever...and then other times it does reference the spirit or soul within the spirit.

What are you referring to when you say, "Until you have become one like Jesus’ very prayer asked for?" That makes no sense.



Um...no...you make absolutely no sense here whatsoever. Exactly what are you talking about and what does it have to do with the spirit that God causes to give life to a human being?



So you are an esoteric knot? Scripture is infallible, and only those who don't know how to read and interpret it correctly tie themselves in knots over it. I am not one of those people. Tree huggers don't hear the voice of Christ or His Spirit, the voices they hear are from demons.



So, you confess that you are not saved and that you are not a Christian...yet they let you post here? Interesting indeed...



Most of this is nonsense. As for the question you ask, trying to trip me up...you answered it in the line before it. Only the Spirit gives birth to spirit, I never said that flesh can. You are seeing and hearing things that are not there.

I am simply Going by Scripture.

The Breath of Life breathed into us, was a part of Gods’ Spirit given to us. A peice of God. What gives us our divine nature. Our Dual Nature. That was put into Flesh, which is not alive without it. And together it makes a Living Soul. A Nephesh (the original Hebrew word used)

Psyche is the closest Greek that can be used to relay the meaning that the Hebrew is trying to relay. But they are not the same.

If you would like to compartmentalize God and the human, be my guest. But nothing I will take part in.

This is all researchable, which I will leave you too it if you so choose. Nothing I want to argue or a back and Forth with.
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What I refer too when I speak of the Oneness that Jesus prayed for is this:
“That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John17
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I speak to this: Which testified to my experience growing up. What I heard; Growing up Observing this Creation and everything in it….

Job 12:7-10
“But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you;
And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you.
“Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you;
And let the fish of the sea declare to you.
“Who among all these does not know
That the hand of the Lord has done this,

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
Day to day pours forth speech,
And night to night reveals knowledge.


Psalm 8:1-9
O Lord, our Lord,
How majestic is Your name in all the earth,
Who have displayed Your splendor above the heavens!
From the mouth of infants and nursing babes You have established strength
Because of Your adversaries,
To make the enemy and the revengeful cease.
When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers,
The moon and the stars, which You have ordained;
read more.

Psalm 36:5
Your lovingkindness, O Lord, extends to the heavens,
Your faithfulness reaches to the skies….

Psalm136:5
To Him who made the heavens with skill,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting;

John6:45
“It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

Psalm 8:2
Out of the mouths of infants and nursing babes You have established strength Because of Your adversaries, That You might silence the enemy and make the revengeful cease.

Yes, Nature speaks (too) his Nature. His Glory. His Knowledge. Which I picked up on growing up. I was so excited when I first came across these verses. As it testified to what I had found, or picked up on. Truly as a young child….

All of this Has to do with The Spirit of Life, because The Spirit of Life is in Everything. Just gotta pick your head up sometimes and Listen. And so shall you see also!
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The Things of the Spirit are esoteric. The Bible a Spiritual book. That speaks a Spiritual Language; Parables and Mystieries.
Because our God is Spirit! And why we are required to worship in Spirit and Truth!

But not knotted. God unbound and UN-tangled this knot. And has allowed me the opportunity, to continue to do so….

His words are infallible. But not all that is said be be from him, is from him. Nor is scripture to be interpreted; It is to be discerned, which are seen with the eyes, and heard with the ears that He has given us. Not the ones we were born with naturally by the flesh.

Jeremiah 7
Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: “Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices, and eat the flesh. 22 For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. 23 But this command I gave them: ‘Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be my people. And walk in all the way that I command you, that it may be well with you.’
**(Which is what Jesus what Jesus echoed)**
24 But they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in their own counsels and the stubbornness of their evil hearts, and went backward and not forward. 25From the day that your fathers came out of the land of Egypt to this day, I have persistently sent all my servants the prophets to them, day after day. 26 Yet they did not listen to me or incline their ear, but stiffened their neck. They did worse than their fathers.

Ezekiel 2:28
“Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says’—when the LORD has not spoken.

Jeremiah 23:25
"I have heard the sayings of the prophets who prophesy lies in My name: 'I had a dream! I had a dream!'

Jeremiah 28:15
Then the prophet Jeremiah said to the prophet Hananiah, "Listen, Hananiah! The LORD did not send you, but you have persuaded this people to trust in a lie.

Lamentations 2:14
The visions of your prophets were empty and deceptive; they did not expose your guilt to ward off your captivity. The burdens they envisioned for you were empty and misleading.

Ezekiel 13:2
"Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Tell those who prophesy out of their own imagination: Hear the word of the LORD!

Ezekiel 13:6
They see false visions and speak lying divinations. They claim, 'Thus declares the LORD,' when the LORD did not send them; yet they wait for the fulfillment of their message.

Ezekiel 13:7
Haven't you seen a false vision and spoken a lying divination when you proclaim, 'Thus declares the LORD,' even though I have not spoken?

Ezekiel 21:29
while they offer false visions for you and lying divinations about you--to be placed on the necks of the wicked who are slain, whose day has come, the time of their final punishment.

**Wolves
Zephaniah 3:3
Her princes within her are roaring lions,
Her judges are wolves at evening;
They leave nothing for the morning.

Acts 20:29
I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;

Ezekiel 22:27
Her princes within her are like wolves tearing the prey, by shedding blood and destroying lives in order to get dishonest gain.

Matthew 7:15
“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Matthew 10:16
“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.

Luke 10:3
Go; behold, I send you out as lambs in the midst of wolves.

**Anti-Christs
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

1 John 2:18
Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Matthew 24:24
Verse Concepts
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.


***The wheat and the tares were said to let be grown together. Why would you presume that the book put together in his name would be any different? For it makes you 100 dependent and Reliant upon Him. And also makes you reveal who you follow and serve! For he has a purpose in Everything he does. Revealing that purpose to those who Trust him, and follow his voice, as it echo across Everything. For those with the eyes and ears to pick up on!

Which you have most certainly revealed who you listen too, and follow.
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Correct. I do not claim to be a Christian. Nor do I claim a denomination. For they all hold a piece.

From my experience they are everything opposite of Christ and what he spoke. Yet I carry his Testimony within me, so I claim nothing but a Child of God. And apparently the Mods seem to pick up on this enough, as to not ban me. For I mean no one any harm. Nor to change their beliefs. I only speak for myself, and give His Word as it was given too me. I seek to fellow ship, and to sharpen each other’s iron. Noting more.

 

[AnneOminous]

I am simply Going by Scripture.

The Breath of Life breathed into us, was a part of Gods’ Spirit given to us. A peice of God. What gives us our divine nature. Our Dual Nature. That was put into Flesh, which is not alive without it. And together it makes a Living Soul. A Nephesh (the original Hebrew word used)

Psyche is the closest Greek that can be used to relay the meaning that the Hebrew is trying to relay. But they are not the same.

If you would like to compartmentalize God and the human, be my guest. But nothing I will take part in.

This is all researchable, which I will leave you too it if you so choose. Nothing I want to argue or a back and Forth with.
…………..

What I refer too when I speak of the Oneness that Jesus prayed for is this:
“That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John17
……………….

I speak to this: Which testified to my experience growing up. What I heard; Growing up Observing this Creation and everything in it….

Job 12:7-10
“But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you;
And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you.
“Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you;
And let the fish of the sea declare to you.
“Who among all these does not know
That the hand of the Lord has done this,

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

Psalm 19:1-2
The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
Day to day pours forth speech,
And night to night reveals knowledge.


Psalm 8:1-9
O Lord, our Lord,
How majestic is Your name in all the earth,
Who have displayed Your splendor above the heavens!
From the mouth of infants and nursing babes You have established strength
Because of Your adversaries,
To make the enemy and the revengeful cease.
When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers,
The moon and the stars, which You have ordained;
read more.

Psalm 36:5
Your lovingkindness, O Lord, extends to the heavens,
Your faithfulness reaches to the skies….

Psalm136:5
To Him who made the heavens with skill,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting;

John6:45
“It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

Psalm 8:2
Out of the mouths of infants and nursing babes You have established strength Because of Your adversaries, That You might silence the enemy and make the revengeful cease.

Yes, Nature speaks (too) his Nature. His Glory. His Knowledge. Which I picked up on growing up. I was so excited when I first came across these verses. As it testified to what I had found, or picked up on. Truly as a young child….

All of this Has to do with The Spirit of Life, because The Spirit of Life is in Everything. Just gotta pick your head up sometimes and Listen. And so shall you see also!
…………

The Things of the Spirit are esoteric. The Bible a Spiritual book. That speaks a Spiritual Language; Parables and Mystieries.
Because our God is Spirit! And why we are required to worship in Spirit and Truth!

But not knotted. God unbound and UN-tangled this knot. And has allowed me the opportunity, to continue to do so….

His words are infallible. But not all that is said be be from him, is from him. Nor is scripture to be interpreted; It is to be discerned, which are seen with the eyes, and heard with the ears that He has given us. Not the ones we were born with naturally by the flesh.

Jeremiah 7
Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: “Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices, and eat the flesh. 22 For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. 23 But this command I gave them: ‘Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be my people. And walk in all the way that I command you, that it may be well with you.’
**(Which is what Jesus what Jesus echoed)**
24 But they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in their own counsels and the stubbornness of their evil hearts, and went backward and not forward. 25From the day that your fathers came out of the land of Egypt to this day, I have persistently sent all my servants the prophets to them, day after day. 26 Yet they did not listen to me or incline their ear, but stiffened their neck. They did worse than their fathers.

Ezekiel 2:28
“Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says’—when the LORD has not spoken.

Jeremiah 23:25
"I have heard the sayings of the prophets who prophesy lies in My name: 'I had a dream! I had a dream!'

Jeremiah 28:15
Then the prophet Jeremiah said to the prophet Hananiah, "Listen, Hananiah! The LORD did not send you, but you have persuaded this people to trust in a lie.

Lamentations 2:14
The visions of your prophets were empty and deceptive; they did not expose your guilt to ward off your captivity. The burdens they envisioned for you were empty and misleading.

Ezekiel 13:2
"Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Tell those who prophesy out of their own imagination: Hear the word of the LORD!

Ezekiel 13:6
They see false visions and speak lying divinations. They claim, 'Thus declares the LORD,' when the LORD did not send them; yet they wait for the fulfillment of their message.

Ezekiel 13:7
Haven't you seen a false vision and spoken a lying divination when you proclaim, 'Thus declares the LORD,' even though I have not spoken?

Ezekiel 21:29
while they offer false visions for you and lying divinations about you--to be placed on the necks of the wicked who are slain, whose day has come, the time of their final punishment.

**Wolves
Zephaniah 3:3
Her princes within her are roaring lions,
Her judges are wolves at evening;
They leave nothing for the morning.

Acts 20:29
I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;

Ezekiel 22:27
Her princes within her are like wolves tearing the prey, by shedding blood and destroying lives in order to get dishonest gain.

Matthew 7:15
“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Matthew 10:16
“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.

Luke 10:3
Go; behold, I send you out as lambs in the midst of wolves.

**Anti-Christs
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

1 John 2:18
Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Matthew 24:24
Verse Concepts
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.


***The wheat and the tares were said to let be grown together. Why would you presume that the book put together in his name would be any different? For it makes you 100 dependent and Reliant upon Him. And also makes you reveal who you follow and serve! For he has a purpose in Everything he does. Revealing that purpose to those who Trust him, and follow his voice, as it echo across Everything. For those with the eyes and ears to pick up on!

Which you have most certainly revealed who you listen too, and follow.
………..

Correct. I do not claim to be a Christian. Nor do I claim a denomination. For they all hold a piece.

From my experience they are everything opposite of Christ and what he spoke. Yet I carry his Testimony within me, so I claim nothing but a Child of God. And apparently the Mods seem to pick up on this enough, as to not ban me. For I mean no one any harm. Nor to change their beliefs. I only speak for myself, and give His Word as it was given too me. I seek to fellow ship, and to sharpen each other’s iron. Noting more.

Beautiful.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

Greetings

The postings on this thread is not reflective of those who are lovingly sharing our Lord Jesus Christ. It is full of self, pride and attitude.

Let us make Christ the focus.
Let us look at what the Bible says.

But He giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble
Galatians 4:6

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Then MEN assembled those stories and bound them in a book.... actually 66 or 80 books depending on who you ask- and called it the Bible. That is NOT the word of God.

That explains a lot….
2 Peter 1:21
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

My question would be to those who do not believe the Holy Bible is the very words of God.

Why are you in a Bible discussion forum?

 

[Shaolin]

pffft..... more dogma.

People wrote their accounts on paper,papyrus or lambskin or whatever.... first oral traditions, then recorded. Then MEN assembled those stories and bound them in a book.... actually 66 or 80 books depending on who you ask- and called it the Bible. That is NOT the word of God. It's a collection of stories. Get over yourself.

Wrong again. God wrote what He has through His Spirit by the hands of chosen men, of which you are not one of. They are not stories, they are the facts.

The one who needs to get over himself (of herself) is you...but nice try.

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[Shaolin]

I am simply Going by Scripture.

Actually, you are not...you are going by what your bias tells you to see between the lines. That is eisegesis, not exegesis and it is false.

The Breath of Life breathed into us, was a part of Gods’ Spirit given to us. A peice of God. What gives us our divine nature.

Wrong again, you don't have anything divine in you...unless you have been saved and the Spirit of God dwells within you (but if you were, and He is, then you would not be contradicting His Word like you are).

All of this Has to do with The Spirit of Life, because The Spirit of Life is in Everything.

Wrong again, the Spirit of God is not in anything upon the earth aside from those who walk with God according to His Way...and it is evident in your beliefs and words that you are not walking with Him.

The Things of the Spirit are esoteric. The Bible a Spiritual book. That speaks a Spiritual Language; Parables and Mystieries.

Wrong again...evidently you don't know what the word esoteric means...it is the word that gnostics like to use for their false teachings. Esoteric means secret knowledge...and there is no secret knowledge with God, only fakers, new agers, and the deceived by doctrines of demons and seducing spirits.

Nothing else you said is worth going over, because its all new age nonsense.

I do hope that you make it, but right now its not looking very good for you...

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[Shaolin]

My question would be to those who do not believe the Holy Bible is the very words of God.

Why are you in a Bible discussion forum?

EXACTLY!!!

There's only ONE reason - they are antichrists here to pervert and subvert the naive away from Christ, just like they did in Paul's day (and I don't know why they are allowed to continue)...

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