Elect according to the foreknowledge of God

[AnneOminous]

Impressive. You wrote that? But you aren't the singer? Twisted Sister is a well known band, right? So you know them?

I’m curious- do you read everything in a literal sense?

 

[AnneOminous]

H110 is not Adam, it is “Adbeel”H110

Gen 25:13 - And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael,Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, H110 and Mibsam,

Another swing and a miss, 3 strikes and your out!

I’m happy to let you continue to humiliate yourself, if that’s what it takes. The key to getting out of the hole you are in is to first stop digging.

 

[God's Truth]

I’m curious- do you read everything in a literal sense?

Are you speaking in some kind of special code to me right now?

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

So red haired people are sinful?

I said earlier I was speaking of “spiritual” things.

1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

 

[God's Truth]

I said earlier I was speaking of “spiritual” things.

1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

You were speaking about red haired people.

 

[Luminary]

Here’s a little song I wrote. You might want to sing it note by note... don’t worry. Be happy.

Awesome
(Maybe it’s a good thing they don’t have emojis, eh…lol)

 

[Luminary]

It’s what the color red “symbolizes” in both Adam and Esau.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

The color “red” symbolizes “sin”

Not sure if you are aware of this….

But the color red in the Chakra system (our bodies energetic point systems) is associated with our “carnal” desires. Or “survival instincts” when not in balance. This would be considered the “desires of the flesh”. As “sin” would be associated with our “base” or root energetic point. It would seem I’m not allowed to put informative links to back what I’m saying, but it’s “out there” if you choose to look into it. It’s part of our anatomy as bio-electromagnetic beings…

Really awesome that you have picked up on this!

 

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God's Truth[/USER]​

#72

'But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of The Living God,
the Heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.'
(Hebrews 12:22-24)

Hello God's Truth,

No, the Church of the first born is not the Body of Christ. A comparison of the book of Hebrews with that of the prison epistles, in which the truth concerning the Church which is the Body of Christ was revealed (Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon) will make that clear.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

@God's Truth said:-
You are really confusing me. You say the Church is not the Body of Christ, but then you say the Church which is the Body of Christ.

Hello PloughBoy,

Sorry if I am confusing you, but I believe my message was clear. Try again.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris​

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Not sure if you are aware of this….

But the color red in the Chakra system (our bodies energetic point systems) is associated with our “carnal” desires. Or “survival instincts” when not in balance. This would be considered the “desires of the flesh”. As “sin” would be associated with our “base” or root energetic point. It would seem I’m not allowed to put informative links to back what I’m saying, but it’s “out there” if you choose to look into it. It’s part of our anatomy as bio-electromagnetic beings…

Really awesome that you have picked up on this!

I was talking about how “sin” and the “sin nature” working “in”mankind is “likened” by God as being red.

It’s what the color red “symbolizes” in both Adam and Esau.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

The color “red” symbolizes “sin”
It is nothing to do with the physical or natural body, it’s about “the spirit”working “in” our “first man” Adam.

It is the same “spirit” of the Red Dragon.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

You were speaking about red haired people.

I said I was speaking of “spiritual” things, which are invisible. When a man is born again of God’s Spirit his outward visible image does not change. It is his inward “spirit” that changes.

Judge not by appearances.

 

[Luminary]

I was talking about how “sin” and the “sin nature” working “in”mankind is “likened” by God as being red.

It’s what the color red “symbolizes” in both Adam and Esau.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

The color “red” symbolizes “sin”
It is nothing to do with the physical or natural body, it’s about “the spirit”working “in” our “first man” Adam.

It is the same “spirit” of the Red Dragon.

I’m aware

If you would give it a chance and look into it, you will see what I was talking about And that it is the Same thing!

I’m a Scientist at Heart. And have learned that Our God is a Master Physicist. And that everything, I mean everything works according to “natural” law. Within a closed system.

We are Bio-electro-magnetic beings. Energetic Beings. Light!!! And we are colorful! Yet unseen too our own eyes. And when our true anatomy is understood, and learned to be used properly, that’s when “miracles” happen.

I have come to understand how Jesus was able to raise his body. Why his imprint was left on the shroud. And how he changed his body. It’s all in our control, Through “Faith”, to make it happen.

This would consist of those “deeper” things of God that were not written, and revealed to those that seek it.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

I’m aware

If you would give it a chance and look into it, you will see what I was talking about And that it is the Same thing!

I’m a Scientist at Heart. And have learned that Our God is a Master Physicist. And that everything, I mean everything works according to “natural” law. Within a closed system.

We are Bio-electro-magnetic beings. Energetic Beings. Light!!! And we are colorful! Yet unseen too our own eyes. And when our true anatomy is understood, and learned to be used properly, that’s when “miracles” happen.

I have come to understand how Jesus was able to raise his body. Why his imprint was left on the shroud. And how he changed his body. It’s all in our control, Through “Faith”, to make it happen.

This would consist of those “deeper” things of God that were not written, and revealed to those that seek it.

Sorry, but Chakra and man’s science is not of God’s Spirit; it is of the spirit of this world.

 

[God's Truth]

I said I was speaking of “spiritual” things, which are invisible. When a man is born again of God’s Spirit his outward visible image does not change. It is his inward “spirit” that changes.

Judge not by appearances.

So why then are you making too much about the red hair?

 

[Luminary]

Sorry, but Chakra and man’s science is not of God’s Spirit; it is of the spirit of this world.

Man did not create science. He only manipulates it.

Gods Spirit is not separate from his creation. For it could not exist without it.

But fair enough

Also please remember that:

Isaiah 45:7​

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.​

Ps: You must not judge, and allow the Spirit of Truth to guide you, into ALL His Truth. For it was not all written in the Bible.

Philippians 4:8
8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.​

The Bible is the Starting point. The Milk. The Guard rails till you learn to walk by the Spirit. For This World is His! And he created Everytjing in it. And Hid his gems all throughout it. For those to find who will Trust him! It takes DISCERNMENT!!! Not Judgment!!!

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

So why then are you making too much about the red hair?

You are the one who brought up red hair, not me.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

Man did not create science. He only manipulates it.

Gods Spirit is not separate from his creation. For it could not exist without it.

But fair enough

Also please remember that:

Isaiah 45:7​

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.​

Ps: You must not judge, and allow the Spirit of Truth to guide you, into ALL His Truth. For it was not all written in the Bible.

Philippians 4:8​

8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.​

The Bible is the Starting point. The Milk. The Guard rails till you learn to walk by the Spirit. For This World is His! And he created Everytjing in it. And Hid his gems all throughout it. For those to find who will Trust him! It takes DISCERNMENT!!! Not Judgment!!!

Man’s “science” = man’s knowledge, which God made foolish.

1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Man’s science ( knowledge) is falsely called knowledge because it of man, and is not of God

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:”

God created this world by His wisdom, but that does not mean all men have the Spirit and wisdom of God.

At present, Satan is the god of this world, whose spirit dominates the majority of people on this planet.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

Just as those who live in sin are of the spirit of the Devil.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, “the spirit” that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

 

[Luminary]

Man’s “science” = man’s knowledge, which God made foolish.

1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Man’s science ( knowledge) is falsely called knowledge because it of man, and is not of God

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:”

God created this world by His wisdom, but that does not mean all men have the Spirit and wisdom of God.

At present, Satan is the god of this world, whose spirit dominates the majority of people on this planet.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

Just as those who live in sin are of the spirit of the Devil.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, “the spirit” that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

I’m sorry, but man’s science….lol

Knowledge belong to the Most High!!! There is no such thing as man’s knowledge. For it was put in the form of a tree, that we “eat” from. The difference is relying upon our own understanding, or following the understanding we are lead too. Ya know…jumping to conclusions….which MANY Scientists do, which is where they fail in many places.

What you quote, is ignorant men thinking they know better, and taking the physical things of the world, and applying them to Spiritual realities. Missing the spiritual reality. Thinking it’s only physical.

It’s one thing to quote scripture. But it’s another to understand what you are quoting. Which you should understand more than anyone.

The wisdom of this world, lacks the wisdom of the spirit behind it. Just like the knowledge contained within Science, is only one side of the Coin. The Physical side. Not understanding that it’s the Spirit under it that makes it work.

“Satan” only has rule as far as We allow him. For Nothing, and I seriously mean NOTHING can over power our own choices. Our God given freedom of Choice. We allow him to rule this world. And it’s high time to take it back. This world was put into OUR hands. And it’s time to stop blaming everything on “Satan” and allowing him rule…imho…For not even God himself, overpowers our own choices.

So we choose this day who we serve. And me and my house, serve the Most high. Satan already chained in this house. And remains your choice as well.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

There is no such thing as man’s knowledge. For it was put in the form of a tree, that we “eat” from. The difference is relying upon our own understanding, or following the understanding we are lead too. Ya know…jumping to conclusions….which MANY Scientists do, which is where they fail in many places.

What you quote, is ignorant men thinking they know better, and taking the physical things of the world, and applying them to Spiritual realities. Missing the spiritual reality. Thinking it’s only physical.

It’s one thing to quote scripture. But it’s another to understand what you are quoting. Which you should understand more than anyone.

The wisdom of this world, lacks the wisdom of the spirit behind it. Just like the knowledge contained within Science, is only one side of the Coin. The Physical side. Not understanding that it’s the Spirit under it that makes it work.

“Satan” only has rule as far as We allow him. For Nothing, and I seriously mean NOTHING can over power our own choices. Our God given freedom of Choice. We allow him to rule this world. And it’s high time to take it back. This world was put into OUR hands. And it’s time to stop blaming everything on “Satan” and allowing him rule…imho…For not even God himself, overpowers our own choices.

So we choose this day who we serve. And me and my house, serve the Most high. Satan already chained in this house. And remains your choice as well.

The wisdom “of” this world is just that, it is “of” the spirit “of” this world; and it is not “of” the Spirit of God .

Man only knows the things of man, by the spirit of man that is in him.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Man’s science (knowledge) is not of God’s Holy Spirit, but is “of” the world.

And Satan presently rules in this world because God has allowed it as a part of His righteous judgment on this wicked world. And man would have no power at all over Satan without the protection given to us by God through Christ.

Only One who is mightier than Satan can cast out Satan, and that is not man.

Matthew 12:26-29

King James Version

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26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.”

 

[Luminary]

The wisdom “of” this world is just that, it is “of” the spirit “of” this world; and it is not “of” the Spirit of God .

Man only knows the things of man, by the spirit of man that is in him.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Man’s science (knowledge) is not of God’s Holy Spirit, but is “of” the world.

And Satan presently rules in this world because God has allowed it as a part of His righteous judgment on this wicked world. And man would have no power at all over Satan without the protection given to us by God through Christ.

Only One who is mightier than Satan can cast out Satan, and that is not man.

Matthew 12:26-29​

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King James Version​

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26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.”

Right The natural man- can only know things of (his) Nature! The Flesh! The things he can sense with his senses. His experiences. Which are extreamly limited in comparison to that which IS. So how could he know? He is ignorant of Spirotual realities, because he can’t see past the nose on his face. So to him, that’s really all there is!

But There is Only One Spirit SotM…..
What you speak of is the Lack of that Spirit in places where it may do it’s work beyond base line breath. Because of Choice!!!

It would seem that you are misusing 1cor 2….Or maybe I’m misunderstanding what you are saying…
(Ironic you chose this one
>>>“The Spirit searches ALL things, -even- the deep things of God.<<<
(Because once born again, like the wind, does not know where it comes from or where it is going!—So it searches EVERTHING…lol….I can sure testify to that Truth….lol)

>> 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts(S) except ~their own spirit(T)~ within them?

>>In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.<<

12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.

13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom(or understandings) but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.

14 The person without the Spirit (of Truth!!!- that thing that people can see nor accept!!!)…does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. !!!!

15 The person with the Spirit (Of Truth) makes judgments (or discerns >in< ) about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,
“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”
>>>But we have the mind of Christ.<<<

So from what I have gotten from this…is not that man can only know the things of man by the Spirit of man in him, because man doesn’t have a Spirit of his own, Rather….

Like an man( you) can only know your own thoughts, so also only the Spirit of God can know the thoughts of God. And through Christ, we are given the mind of God, because of the Spirit that leads to all that Truth contained within that mind. Which is IN man. The vessel that holds it while on this planet. It’s why our choice is so important.

“””Man’s science (knowledge) is not of God’s Holy Spirit, but is “of” the world.”””

There is no knowledge apart from God. For even his Creation Speaks his Knowledge! Which man picks up on. He just gets confused where it comes from as all he can see is himself with his eyeballs!!!

Who squirmed into your brain and made you believe this? Almost as bad as the one who told Adam he wouldnt die by consuming that —knowledgeable—fruit”!!!

Ecclesiastes 1:8
“For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.

(And to throw a little knowledge too ya, when one is grieving or sorrowful, it can cause cardiovascular malfunction, inflammation(or infection), depression, malnutrition, or obesity which all lead to…..Death!!!!)

“””And man would have no power at all over Satan without the protection given to us by God through Christ.”””

You ignore our Choice!!! And the Image we were made in!!! For Spirit is born of Spirit!!! And Flesh born of Flesh…..And be Are Both!!!

This is your tradition speaking. Of which we were warned about!!!

Let me ask you this if I may…..
What is the difference between Jesus and Christ?

“””Only One who is mightier than Satan can cast out Satan, and that is not man.”””

Right The Flesh can do nothing! But the Spirit(in man) does!!!—because it is of a divine Nature! Given to us when we take our First breath!

Do you know what a house/ tent symbolizes?

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

But There is Only One Spirit SotM…..

This exposes your error, all men are not first born with the Holy Spirit.

The Flesh can do nothing! But the Spirit(in man) does!!!—because it is of a divine Nature! Given to us when we take our First breath!

Again, this shows you have no idea what you are talking about. All men are first born of the “flesh” which means they have a fallen nature and do not have the divine nature of God by His Holy Spirit.

Jesus said that which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is Spirit. Our first man is born of the “flesh”, which is why we need to be born again from above by the Holy Spirit.

Look at the meaning of the word “flesh” in that verse….

the sensuous nature of man, "the animal nature"

1. without any suggestion of depravity
2. the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin
3. the physical nature of man as subject to suffering
4. a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast
5. the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God”

If all men are first born of God’s Holy Spirit then there would be no need to be born again and be given “a new spirit”

Ezekiel 11:19
And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

Ezekiel 36:26
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.