Are some people predestined for hell no matter what they do.

[Butch5]

Lol. I am afflicted with an OCPD.

I am obsessed with truth and honesty.

I can't resist it.

Well, I'm giving you the truth.

 

[David1954]

Well, I giving you the truth.

What?! What truth?! You seem determined to keep your truth a secret.

 

[Butch5]

What?! What truth?! You seem determined to keep your truth a secret.

No secret. I explained it all to you. I explained the grammar and showed how Paul differentiates between the groups. If you read the commentary it went into even more depth.

 

[David1954]

No secret. I explained it all to you. I explained the grammar and showed how Paul differentiates between the groups. If you read the commentary it went into even more depth.

This is you again not telling us what you think.

Tell us. Let us examine it.

 

[Butch5]

This is you again not telling us what you think.

Tell us. Let us examine it.

Go back over the posts, It's there. It may not fit your agenda, but it's there.

 

[David1954]

Go back over the posts, It's there. It may not fit your agenda, but it's there.

I have gone back to the beginning of this post.

I have stored up Scripture against every doctrine you've advanced.

So, I ask again, What is your religion?

 

[David1954]

You think Jews are something else.

You think Gentiles are something else.

You think someone has told you a secret.

 

[Sue D.]

So this entire discussion is about the Gentiles being part of the Church? And whether or not the Church is an extention of Israel.

They are separate.

Salvation was extended to the Gentiles.

There are Messianic Jews -- those who Have accepted Jesus Christ as the Promised Messiah.

A question -- how can the Church be an extention of Anything. It's existence Started on the day of Pentecost.

What's being suggested is called Replacement Theology.

And I realize I'm interrupting your discussion. But just curious.

I'd found an article about the differences between the Church and Israel.

 

[Butch5]

I have gone back to the beginning of this post.

I have stored up Scripture against every doctrine you've advanced.

So, I ask again, What is your religion?

Changing the subject because you know what I showed is correct?

 

[David1954]

So this entire discussion is about the Gentiles being part of the Church? And whether or not the Church is an extention of Israel.

They are separate.

Salvation was extended to the Gentiles.

There are Messianic Jews -- those who Have accepted Jesus Christ as the Promised Messiah.

A question -- how can the Church be an extention of Anything. It's existence Started on the day of Pentecost.

What's being suggested is called Replacement Theology.

And I realize I'm interrupting your discussion. But just curious.

I'd found an article about the differences between the Church and Israel.

I appreciate you, Sue.

And you always make a lot of sense.

 

[Butch5]

So this entire discussion is about the Gentiles being part of the Church? And whether or not the Church is an extention of Israel.

They are separate.

Salvation was extended to the Gentiles.

There are Messianic Jews -- those who Have accepted Jesus Christ as the Promised Messiah.

A question -- how can the Church be an extention of Anything. It's existence Started on the day of Pentecost.

What's being suggested is called Replacement Theology.

And I realize I'm interrupting your discussion. But just curious.

I'd found an article about the differences between the Church and Israel.

No, what's being discussed is who verses 3-12 of Ephesians 1 are speaking of.

 

[David1954]

No, what's being discussed is who verses 3-12 of Ephesians 1 are speaking of.

Nope. No, no. You already confessed they are speaking of the faithful in Christ Jesus.

 

[David1954]

No, what's being discussed is who verses 3-12 of Ephesians 1 are speaking of.

Paul here tells us of the Christian experience. Jews, Gentiles, Paul, whomever.

 

[David1954]

Butch5 is shy to tell us what his religion really is.

Waiting for us to prove his exegesis wrong.

Which we have done.

 

[Butch5]

Paul here tells us of the Christian experience. Jews, Gentiles, Paul, whomever.

No I didn't. I said the Gentiles were included after they believed. I though you said you were at the top of the heap

 

[David1954]

No I didn't. I said the Gentiles were included after they believed. I though you said you were at the top of the heap

Dude, if you ever tell us what your religion is, you will have a whole world of intelligent people asking you questions.

 

[Butch5]

Butch5 is shy to tell us what his religion really is.

Waiting for us to prove his exegesis wrong.

Which we have done.

Red herring much?

 

[David1954]

Red herring much?

Yeah. That answer tells us everything,

 

[Butch5]

Dude, if you ever tell us what your religion is, you will have a whole world of intelligent people asking you questions.

A Red Herring fallacy is when someone either can't or won't address the issue at hand. Instead they try to distract by talking about something else.

There's no recourse for what I've said so you have to distract from the issue at hand.

 

[David1954]

A Red Herring fallacy is when someone either can't or won't address the issue at hand. Instead they try to distract by talking about something else.

There's no recourse for what I've said so you have to distract from the issue at hand.

Dude, we all know what a red herring is.

And we see you the master of it.