ARE WE NUTS?

[Rhema]

I have no sympathy for his family

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
(Matthew 5:44 KJV)

 

[Rhema]

Ok, so? It doesn't make you or anyone else who can better than the rest of us.

Are you not a better medic than I ?
Of course you are. (One would hope so.)
Each of us is better than another, in that for which we are educated and have experience.
How is that not obvious?
And if you ever need to come to my house, you'd BETTER be better than the rest of them.
(Or send me those who are better.)

" I did not, and determined to learn the language for myself, and it turns out I was right." How do we know?

Educate yourself. (Again, that is obvious.)

"needs" When the Bible was NOT translated then doing it in other languages was needed. Not so and hasn't been for a long time.

I was not aware that you spoke a 400 year old dialect of English. But if translations were no longer needed, then why not just use the Geneva Bible only? And why the RV, the ASV, NRSV? Have you ever asked yourself that question? It would seem not, which is why I wrote that you put wild reckless faith in your translations. Were you aware that the NIV added in words to their translation? I don't mean a questionable rendition of a functional translation, I mean literally added in words on purpose to change the meaning? (The NIV is from the pit of hell.) And with regards to the KJV, at the time of its translation, no Greek scholars had any clue about what is now called the Koine dialect. (But maybe that just doesn't matter to you.)

It is access to a written Bible that is the main problem.

Peter never needed a written Bible in Acts 2.
Philip never needed a written Bible in Acts 8.
And even though the Ethiopian Eunuch had a Bible, what good did it do him?

But I can tell you that a poorly translated Bible can do great harm.

Pretty sure access to God and learning of Him and human history isn't locked behind some "Greek professor degree".

All of your translations are locked behind some "Greek professor degree". And if you weren't combative, you'd might inquire as to why I would say that your faith in what you read is misplaced.

Many good preachers/pastors aren't fluent in Greek or Hebrew but have learned enough they put it in their sermons and classes.

That's what the priests and pharisees thought.

The real Word comes from God not from ANY human, especially some "Greek professor".

Then you've never heard from God. Not because your books are wrong, but because God would have shown you where. And yes, it makes a great difference.

If all these translations were wrong then well-learned and experienced Christians would have learned of it long ago.

That's what the priests and pharisees thought.

But you're welcome to remain in your ignorance.
( I hope you don't, but... that's up to you.)

Blessings
Rhema

Rhema

 

[hopefulson]

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
(Matthew 5:44 KJV)

Absolutely PERFECT!

 

[Bill Taylor]

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
(Matthew 5:44 KJV)

I lay no curse at their feet, do pray they seek Yahshua in this time of trouble. However, just as I bear the burden of men killed in Vietnam and nobody assists, so must they bear this burden. If they are part of the Family of Christ they can lean on us and if they are lost, more likely, they need to seek salvation from the Christ.

 

[Rhema]

However, just as I bear the burden of men killed in Vietnam and nobody assists,

Then you should cast that burden upon Him as He so desires.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

(Matthew 11:28-30 KJV)​

Nobody assists? The Son of God has said he would assist. If so, then let him. There should be no burden to bear for those in Christ Jesus. Why repent if your sins remain unforgiven afterwards? And if they are forgiven, then there is no burden left.

so must they bear this burden.

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.​

(Ezekiel 18:20 KJV)​

Rhema

 

[Bill Taylor]

Then you should cast that burden upon Him as He so desires.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.​

(Matthew 11:28-30 KJV)​

Nobody assists? The Son of God has said he would assist. If so, then let him. There should be no burden to bear for those in Christ Jesus. Why repent if your sins remain unforgiven afterwards? And if they are forgiven, then there is no burden left.

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.​

(Ezekiel 18:20 KJV)​

Rhema

When I said nobody that is referring to folks on this earth right now.
You posted:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
(Matthew 5:44 KJV)
And I say to you, All love is not soft a cushy. My dad loved me but he knew when to apply the leather to the butt also.

 

[Laeomis]

The Bible is ink on paper. Both are dead. So again, it's a nice bedtime story, but that's not what I'm here for. Or are you trying to promote a doctrine that preaches that the Gospel can change over time? (Just not sure, no offence intended.)


Doesn't that assertion kill the whole "Bible is the LIVING word" thing? If the text isn't important, then let's just hold hands and sing "Kum ba yah". If the text IS important, then shouldn't one make the effort to learn the language?


I'm slightly inclined to agree with you here, but the conclusion is that the text doesn't matter at all. Is that a position that you wish to take? If so, what is one to do when encountering dozens if not hundreds of people who preach conflicting Christian teachings?

Wait.... are you Catholic? (But a Catholic wouldn't reference the KJV.) So then, what is the basis for your Ecclesiastical Authority?

Rhema

PS: In that we don't know each other, I thank you for posting the references, but they are a bit elementary to me.

Perhaps you'd be more comfortable with Aramaic scriptures then. Here's a link back at ya brother.

TheAramaicScriptures.com

The Holy Aramaic Scriptures: With a literal English translation and transliteration of The Eastern Peshitta New Testament Text, such as given in The Khabouris Codex.

www.thearamaicscriptures.com

According to McClurg, translations of the Old Testament are 99.5% accurate (McClurg, 2020). This is obviously statistically true, because the empirical rule of statistics states that 99.7% of data will lie within 3 standard deviation of the mean (Hayes, 2024). According to McClurg, this is because of the effort translators put into giving an accurate translation and translations show remarkable consistency among each other. There is no way to get the perfect Bible since the original Hebrew is a dead language and there are no original documents for it.

I'm a Catholic under protest.

Hayes, A. (2024, June, 27). Empirical rule: Definition, formula, example, how it's used. Investopedia.

Empirical Rule: Definition, Formula, Example, How It's Used

The empirical rule states that 99.7% of normally distributed data will fall within three standard deviations from the dataset's mean.

www.investopedia.com

McClurg, A. (2020, February, 11). Dear Theophilus: Is the Old Testament trustworthy to the original? Grand Canyon University. Dear Theophilus: Is the Old Testament Trustworthy to the Original?

 

[Rhema]

When I said nobody that is referring to folks on this earth right now.

Wow, that's really ... sad.

 

[Bill Taylor]

Wow, that's really ... sad.

No, this is an issue millions of former soldiers and police officers carry every day. We can't carry one another's load and neither can anyone else on this level of life. I see this lifted in the Glorifed Body but until then I and my fellow actor carry this one alone. No sad, just true.

 

[Laeomis]

No, this is an issue millions of former soldiers and police officers carry every day. We can't carry one another's load and neither can anyone else on this level of life. I see this lifted in the Glorifed Body but until then I and my fellow actor carry this one alone. No sad, just true.

Jesus Christ is the High Priest, and it was traditionally the position of the priests to bear the burden of sin for the congregation and make atonement (Leviticus 10:17). The priests have to be paid though, and the priests are paid through tithing. You have to be paying your tithes at your church, and the priests have to bear the burden of sin to make atonement. If you aren't paying your tithes, or if the priests are failing their duties in Christ then all society will suffer.

War is a necessary sin, and God makes it easy to make up for through Jesus Christ. I don't think the congregation and the Church are cooperating with this system.

 

[Christ4Ever]

No, this is an issue millions of former soldiers and police officers carry every day. We can't carry one another's load and neither can anyone else on this level of life. I see this lifted in the Glorifed Body but until then I and my fellow actor carry this one alone. No sad, just true.

Brotherly Hug!

 

[th1bill]

Brotherly Hug!

Thank you Brother.

 

[Rhema]

We can't carry one another's load and neither can anyone else on this level of life.

Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
(Galatians 6:2 KJV)

 

[Rhema]

I don't think the congregation and the Church are cooperating with this system.

It's worse than you think.

Therefore I will give their wives to others and their fields to conquerors, because from the least to the greatest everyone is greedy for unjust gain; from prophet to priest everyone deals falsely.​

(Jeremiah 8:10 NRSV)​

 

[Rhema]

There is no way to get the perfect Bible since the original Hebrew is a dead language and there are no original documents for it.

It's worse than you think.

How can you say, "We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us," when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?​

(Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV)​

 

[Rhema]

I'm a Catholic under protest.

Uh... as in ... Protest-ant ??

 

[Laeomis]

Uh... as in ... Protest-ant ??

Yeah.

 

[Bill Taylor]

Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
(Galatians 6:2 KJV)

Are you honestly naive enough to think you can carry the lifelong nightmares that we do not discuss in the daylight? We know things that make the Mainstream Media sick in their sleep and they are ours to carry until we reach Heaven.

The scripture you abused is somewhat balanced with: Gal 6:5-7 For every man shall bear his own burden. Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Theology is not a limping stand-alone verse.

My LORD came to me just as light broke in the jungle, Nov. 3,m 1969 and has helped since.

 

[Rhema]

Are you honestly naive enough to think you can carry the lifelong nightmares that we do not discuss in the daylight?

I'm naive enough to take Paul at his word.
I'm sorry you cannot embrace that light.
I'm also naive enough to suggest that you start to obey the command of Jesus in this regard.
If the burden remains in your heart, then it has not been forgiven, or you have not accepted forgiveness.

We discuss all things bringing them into the light. Only sinners would not discuss their sin in the daylight. If we still remain ashamed of our sin, then we are still ashamed to be forgiven.

To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.​

(Luke 1:79 KJV)​

Rhema

(And you know nothing of what I've been through.)

 

[Rhema]

The scripture you abused

Bear ye one another's burdens (G922), and so fulfil the law of Christ.​

(Galatians 6:2 KJV)​

​

For every man shall bear his own burden (G5413).​

(Galatians 6:5 KJV)​

These are two different words, with two different meanings.
Your translation has betrayed you. (Remember that.)

Rhema