True True. But there has to be some way. I'm not giving up. I've found faults in the argument and logical fallacies, plus I have legitimate arguments supporting God. I know there has to be a way to argue the existence of God based on reason... and I'm going to find it lol. I've been working on it for quite a few years.
Atheists aren't the only ones that can debate... two can play at that game!!
if you didn't feel suffering,so you didn't fully understanding bible the word of god.
the suffering should be not from secular humanism;
the suffering is
Mat 13:1 The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.
Mat 13:2 And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
Mat 13:3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
Mat 13:4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
Mat 13:5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
Mat 13:6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
Mat 13:7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:
Mat 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Mat 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Mat 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Mat 13:18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
Mat 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
Mat 13:20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Mat 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
Mat 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
Mat 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
let me show you
Why does God allow suffering?
1ti 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
so be made for what? all men
what will be made for all? supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks,
BUT THIS IS NOT MEANing
THE content will be made for all men!!!!!ONLY "supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks,what
action about BLESSING" will be made for all men!!!!!
Pro 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not(and do not betray truth); also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Revelation 13:17 kjv:And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
SAVE HE ( that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. )
WHO CAN'T BUY truth OR betray truth.(And that no man might buy or sell)
Linkin Park - The Catalyst
God bless us every one 上帝保佑我们每一个人
We're a broken people living under loaded gun 我们却是活在枪口之下不完整的人
And it can't be outfought 谁都无法脱离争斗
It can't be outdone 永远没有结束
It can't be outmatched 永远无法停止较量
It can't be outrun 永远无法停下脚步
No no
God bless us every one 上帝保佑我们每一个人
We're a broken people living under loaded gun 我们却是活在枪口之下不完整的人
And it can't be outfought 谁都无法脱离争斗
It can't be outdone 永远没有结束
It can't be outmatched 永远无法停止较量
It can't be outrun 永远无法停下脚步
No no
And when I close my eyes tonight 当我今夜在无数的炫目的光线中闭上眼睛
To symphonies of blinding light
(God bless us every one / we're a broken people living under loaded gun)
Oh / like memories in cold decay 好像记忆彻底的腐朽了
Transmissions echoing away 传送的信息回荡着散开
Far from the world of you and I远离我们所在的世界
Where oceans bleed into the sky去到大海渗入天空的地方
God save us every one 上帝拯救我们每一个人
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns 我们会在一千个太阳的火焰中被焚烧吗
For the sins of our hand 因为我们手上肮脏的罪恶
The sins of our tongue 那源自我们语言中的罪恶
The sins of our father 那来自我们父辈的罪恶
The sins of our young 那来自下一代的罪恶
No no
God save us every one 上帝拯救我们每一个人
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns 我们会在一千个太阳的火焰中被焚烧吗
For the sins of our hand 因为我们手上肮脏的罪恶
The sins of our tongue 那源自我们语言中的罪恶
The sins of our father 那来自我们父辈的罪恶
The sins of our young 那来自下一代的罪恶
No no
And when I close my eyes tonight当我今夜在无数的炫目的光线中闭上眼睛
To symphonies of blinding light
(God save us every one上帝拯救我们每一个人 /
will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns我们会在一千个太阳的火焰中被焚烧吗)
Oh / like memories in cold decay好像记忆彻底的腐朽了
Transmissions echoing away传送的信息回荡着散开
Far from the world of you and I远离我们所在的世界
Where oceans bleed into the sky去到大海渗入天空的地方
Oh / like memories in cold decay 好像记忆彻底的腐朽了
Transmissions echoing away 传送的信息回荡着散开
Far from the world of you and I远离我们所在的世界
Where oceans bleed into the sky去到大海渗入天空的地方
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
Lift me up, let me go 带我走 让我走
God bless us every one 上帝保佑我们每一个人
We're a broken people living under loaded gun 我们却是活在枪口之下不完整的人
And it can't be outfought 谁都无法脱离争斗
It can't be outdone 永远没有结束
It can't be outmatched 永远无法停止较量
It can't be outrun 永远无法停下脚步
No no
God bless us every one 上帝保佑我们每一个人
We're a broken people living under loaded gun 我们却是活在枪口之下不完整的人
And it can't be outfought 谁都无法脱离争斗
It can't be outdone 永远没有结束
It can't be outmatched 永远无法停止较量
It can't be outrun 永远无法停下脚步
then
THE BLESSING IS
1ti 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we
may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
1ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1ti 2:4 Who will
have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
THE TRUTH IS
Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Mat 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
Mat 13:32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
Mat 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
Mat 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
Mat 13:45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
Mat 13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.
Mat 13:47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
Mat 13:48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
Mat 13:50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.
Mat 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
Mat 13:53 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence.
Mat 13:54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?
Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Mat 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
Mat 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.
Mat 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.