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Bill Wiese (Man Who Went To Hell) - 23 Minutes in Hell (Condensed)
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@Max202020 -- you're suggesting that he's made up all of it even though it's all backed by Scripture -- which would Also suggest that the Scripture isn't authentic Either.
And if he's lying about the horribleness of hell and That is backed by Scripture that heaven is made up as Well?! And that if one batch of Scripture isn't really authentic than who's to say that Any of it Is?!
On the Other hand -- what if he Isn't lying -- what if it's all True.
We Do have John 14:6 Jesus Christ is telling us that "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me'."
And Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God......"
So -- in the big picture either Scripture is truth or we can throw it out.
I'd rather stick with the fact that Scripture Is totally true.
And if he's lying about the horribleness of hell and That is backed by Scripture that heaven is made up as Well?! And that if one batch of Scripture isn't really authentic than who's to say that Any of it Is?!
On the Other hand -- what if he Isn't lying -- what if it's all True.
We Do have John 14:6 Jesus Christ is telling us that "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me'."
And Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God......"
So -- in the big picture either Scripture is truth or we can throw it out.
I'd rather stick with the fact that Scripture Is totally true.
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@Max202020 -- apparently you know something about that 'stuff' -- sounds like it's not something that the guy did himself -- it was a vision from God.
Just looked up the Astral projection. That is apparently something a person can bring on themselves. I'm going to look into his video again cause it didn't sound like something he dreamed up. Besides Why would someone dream up something like That. And all the Scriptures he was using. Every step of the way.
Just looked up the Astral projection. That is apparently something a person can bring on themselves. I'm going to look into his video again cause it didn't sound like something he dreamed up. Besides Why would someone dream up something like That. And all the Scriptures he was using. Every step of the way.
I was just listening to the interview he had with Rabbi Eric Walker about his book and vision. The Rabbi brought up Astral projection but That was never pursed. Mr. Wiesse said he looked up Scripture pertaining to every part of the vision he had to see if it Did jibe with God's Word. It was even Worse. It was Not an experience that he went after or that was brought on by anything. And it was Long time before he was willing to share it with anyone except his mother and wife. But it did give him even More of a burden for lost people.
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If he's lying what have you lost?
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If he's telling the truth what is it that you can say you've been saved from through Jesus Christ?
Thanks Max. I was wondering what words I was going to open with when I post the link to the video on my Facebook!
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Why -- because you don't like the reality of what hell will be like?! Like he said in the video -- there's no reason why anyone has to end up there -- it's only meant for satan, the beast and the false prophet.
All a person needs to do is accept Jesus Christ as personal Savior -- that's God remedy for staying Out. Just sayin
All a person needs to do is accept Jesus Christ as personal Savior -- that's God remedy for staying Out. Just sayin
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Hello Max,
Sure and he even admitted as much! I mean, not only do you experience something very out of the ordinary, but then are told that you need to tell others of your experience!!!! Could not have been comfortable doing it in the beginning. Put oneself in his shoes, and one would appreciate how difficult it really must have been to stand up and tell others a story that one might only find in the movies or the Bible. I mean people even with historical evidence don't believe Jesus existed!
That is why I tell people that the most powerful testimony of Jesus is the one that you have experienced yourself. People might not believe it, but it won't stop you from knowing or telling it, because it is the truth! So, "far fetched" is acceptable as unconvincing to you, but a lie? Not so much.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Scripture doesn't lie my friend, if you don't want to believe what he experienced, check out all the scripture he quotes, they tell exactly what the guy is saying.
It is in your Bible, it is in The Word of God.
@Max202020 -- what Does Scripture say about hell?
Not once did he question the reality of hell. He's questioning the experience the man had and that's it.
Well -- what if he Isn't 'just fearmongering? What do You feel that hell is going to be like?
I can understand why anyone would question this man's experience. It has nothing to do with the scriptures he quoted or the reality of hell. It has all to do with living in the mis-information age. You're doing the right thing.
The mis-information age?! So the question Is -- apparently -- did this man actually receive a vision from God or Didn't he. The man felt led by God to share the stark reality Of hell after all those years Because he and his wife realized that many people Don't either read their Bibles for themselves / / preachers don't teach about it because it's not popular // lots of people only want to hear 'feel good' sermons.
God gave him the information He did for God's reasons. And the man said that they don' accept any money from anyone. No one pays them to speak.
And he Also said that he checked everything he saw in his vision with Scripture --just to verify to him that it wasn't some spirit other than God giving him those visions.
so - maybe -- it's more accepting the fact of a hell in everyone's future whether we want to hear about it or not. And that it Will Be a Very unpleasant place to be Forever.
God gave him the information He did for God's reasons. And the man said that they don' accept any money from anyone. No one pays them to speak.
And he Also said that he checked everything he saw in his vision with Scripture --just to verify to him that it wasn't some spirit other than God giving him those visions.
so - maybe -- it's more accepting the fact of a hell in everyone's future whether we want to hear about it or not. And that it Will Be a Very unpleasant place to be Forever.
