Conspiracy Theorists

[Christina2000]

Dear Sister,
Your prayers would be appreciated. I leave it in the hands of God. I hope you don't get any adverse effects from the shot/boosters either. That you'd be in the same condition that you stated for me for against the adverse reactions from the vaccines. That is the precise point I was making. Neither one of us can say if or whether one or the other will happen as a surety. That is why my faith is in the Lord, and not man.

When you say, "vaccinated gives a good chance of survival", you should add with the symptoms if you get the virus. Again, it won't prevent you from getting it or passing it on if you do. I'll trust that if God wants me to stay, and still has work for me to do, that He has the power to make it happen no matter what, and if He wants me to come Home, then no matter what man attempts to do to prevent me from leaving, I'll be heading Home!!! I don't fear either option, because I know it's His will that is the determining factor.

I'm glad you believe that your actions are sensible, which all on both sides believe those actions to be. Whether they are or not, no one can say, unless one's faith is placed in God, because ultimately, He is the arbiter of all things that transpire here. As far as trusting the science, well, it's pretty evident that we don't have the full picture of what science has to say on this subject. That is why one should not be denigrating one another, regardless of what they believe to be true. Because what is most important is to always remember to place your trust in God, and not man.

There is a saying in proverbs 14:12 NKJV that says: There is a way [that seems] right to a man, But its end [is] the way of death.

For we need to keep in mind that again in Isaiah 55:8-9 NKJV it says, "For My thoughts [are] not your thoughts, Nor [are] your ways My ways," says the LORD. "For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.

So, don't let stuff like this worry you!!! Trust in the Lord and be comforted that He is with you at all times!!! We have so much to look forward to Sister in Christ Jesus!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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I had my fourth jab done weeks ago and apart from the expected sore arm I have been absolutely fine. I know of nobody who has had any serious adverse effect from being vaccinated. In fact the elderly of my acquaintance get no side effects at all. But we all, millions of us, have the benefits of protection. Millions of us.

 

[MedicBravo]

Dear Sister,
Your prayers would be appreciated. I leave it in the hands of God. I hope you don't get any adverse effects from the shot/boosters either. That you'd be in the same condition that you stated for me for against the adverse reactions from the vaccines. That is the precise point I was making. Neither one of us can say if or whether one or the other will happen as a surety. That is why my faith is in the Lord, and not man.

When you say, "vaccinated gives a good chance of survival", you should add with the symptoms if you get the virus. Again, it won't prevent you from getting it or passing it on if you do. I'll trust that if God wants me to stay, and still has work for me to do, that He has the power to make it happen no matter what, and if He wants me to come Home, then no matter what man attempts to do to prevent me from leaving, I'll be heading Home!!! I don't fear either option, because I know it's His will that is the determining factor.

I'm glad you believe that your actions are sensible, which all on both sides believe those actions to be. Whether they are or not, no one can say, unless one's faith is placed in God, because ultimately, He is the arbiter of all things that transpire here. As far as trusting the science, well, it's pretty evident that we don't have the full picture of what science has to say on this subject. That is why one should not be denigrating one another, regardless of what they believe to be true. Because what is most important is to always remember to place your trust in God, and not man.

There is a saying in proverbs 14:12 NKJV that says: There is a way [that seems] right to a man, But its end [is] the way of death.

For we need to keep in mind that again in Isaiah 55:8-9 NKJV it says, "For My thoughts [are] not your thoughts, Nor [are] your ways My ways," says the LORD. "For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.

So, don't let stuff like this worry you!!! Trust in the Lord and be comforted that He is with you at all times!!! We have so much to look forward to Sister in Christ Jesus!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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The problem is that she and another pop up ANY time someone speaks out against and gives evidence proven through medical science and many people who work in Medicine.
She continually insults people who know far more than her even a doctor from her own country.

 

[B-A-C]

millions of us, have the benefits of protection. Millions of us.

Exactly what benefit is that? A guarantee that you will never get it? A guarantee that you won't give it to anyone else? A guarantee that you won't die from it? A guarantee that there are no side effects?
With no guarantees, what is the advantage? ( benefit ).

 

[MedicBravo]

Exactly what benefit is that? A guarantee that you will never get it? A guarantee that you won't give it to anyone else? A guarantee that you won't die from it? A guarantee that there are no side effects?
With no guarantees, what is the advantage? ( benefit ).

She's like so many. Stuck in this fear bubble of thinking they are doing something good and rejecting anything factual and from anyone when it doesn't come from her Faucian church and the "official" CDC, WHO, and the laughing stock "government" we have.

1. The shots don't prevent spread
2. Children of all ages are more harmed by the shots.
3. CDC says the efficacy wears off at 6 - 8 months requiring a "booster".
4. Children do not have a great risk for COVID (not the shot)
5. They are obsolete with these new "variants".
6. As of today the CDC and WHO have NO liability for harm along with the manufactures.

Hypothetically, if she or someone else who is "vaccinated" suffers a permanent vaccine injury or dies, oh well. They can't sue. Might as well but coffins ahead of time right?

 

[Christina2000]

Exactly what benefit is that? A guarantee that you will never get it? A guarantee that you won't give it to anyone else? A guarantee that you won't die from it? A guarantee that there are no side effects?
With no guarantees, what is the advantage? ( benefit ).

Life holds no guarantees. A vaccine gives protection, a reduced chance of serious illness and death. This is what vaccines do, save lives.

To refuse vaccination is foolish and risks your health unnecessarily.

 

[MedicBravo]

Life holds no guarantees. A vaccine gives protection, a reduced chance of serious illness and death. This is what vaccines do, save lives.

To refuse vaccination is foolish and risks your health unnecessarily.

"Life holds no guarantees." So? Irrelevant to the topic.
The COVID "vaccine" nor boosters do not provide protection. Again, there is plenty of evidence and statements they do not.
Some vaccines do. All vaccines do not. They are not the same.
Your last part is just another flawed opinion showing your distrust of your own body's immune system and where you allegiance lies: Fauci not God.

 

[Hekuran]

There is a major difference in public attitudes to covid between the UK and the US because here in the UK the issue has not been politicised.

Our chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, is widely respected and trusted.

We know that the people who remain unvaccinated are eight times more likely to be admitted to hospital with covid than those who are vaccinated.

There is a minority of people here who are sceptical of the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine, but hardly anybody in the UK who believes there is any kind of conspiracy.

 

[Christ4Ever]

I had my fourth jab done weeks ago and apart from the expected sore arm I have been absolutely fine. I know of nobody who has had any serious adverse effect from being vaccinated. In fact the elderly of my acquaintance get no side effects at all. But we all, millions of us, have the benefits of protection. Millions of us.

Dear Sister,
I truly hope it stays that way for you and those millions, and for those who may catch it, or those who do have adverse effects though you may not know them.
However, even more importantly may I suggest you give the Glory to God that you thus far been blessed to not have received it. Without whom there is no gain.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Christina2000]

Dear Sister,
I truly hope it stays that way for you and those millions, and for those who may catch it, or those who do have adverse effects though you may not know them.
However, even more importantly may I suggest you give the Glory to God that you thus far been blessed to not have received it. Without whom there is no gain.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Thankyou. I wish you good health.

 

[Christina2000]

"Life holds no guarantees." So? Irrelevant to the topic.
The COVID "vaccine" nor boosters do not provide protection. Again, there is plenty of evidence and statements they do not.
Some vaccines do. All vaccines do not. They are not the same.
Your last part is just another flawed opinion showing your distrust of your own body's immune system and where you allegiance lies: Fauci not God.

Well I shall have faith in the scientists on that.

 

[Christ4Ever]

There is a major difference in public attitudes to covid between the UK and the US because here in the UK the issue has not been politicised.

Our chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, is widely respected and trusted.

We know that the people who remain unvaccinated are eight times more likely to be admitted to hospital with covid than those who are vaccinated.

There is a minority of people here who are sceptical of the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine, but hardly anybody in the UK who believes there is any kind of conspiracy.

Dear Brother,
That is probably true.
Here in the States, the Government has been prone to lie in order to push an agenda those in power want to succeed. This is evidenced by the position it takes depending on which political party is in power. Meaning, they'll be against the vaccine, when the opposition is in power, and for it when they are in power. So, policies follow the agenda, and not the Science. It's a sad state of affairs for sure. Still, regardless of the country, the agencies involved should be answerable to the people they govern, but most of the time that's not how it appears to be whether in the UK or US.

The problem with the belief in the system, is how they respond to those asking questions, and their actions. To give you an idea, the US government has prevented access to data related to testing of the vaccine by certain pharmaceutical companies for 70 years. When a government does something like that, it doesn't speak of an openness and feeds to skepticism that the people of the state might have. It also prevents Science from evaluating the right/wrong of the testing. When you pose questions to the government, and they refuse to answer. Common sense should be giving one a warning that there is a reason they don't want you know about. Here in the states, the government has been known for that, especially as it pertains to testing done throughout the years on the military. It doesn't come to light till years later, when it doesn't help those affected.

On the particular data you mentioned about "eight times more likely to be admitted to hospital with covid than those who are vaccinated" is an interesting observation. Extrapolate that to how many people have adverse effects from the vaccine, and it's zero for those unvaccinated, to 100% of those so affected.

That is my only viewpoint, because everyone should not trust the government blindly, without asking questions, and be perturbed when they refuse to answer the questions, or attack those who ask the questions. The latter point should be even more disturbing to those who declare/are freedom of speech advocates.

My trust is in the Lord, period brother, and that is my most important point. Neither side in this discussion rarely mention Him in putting out their stance on this subject. As if He has no irons in this fire or in their lives!!! When I see that, it makes me wonder how important or what part He has in their decision making, regardless of which side of this they issue they stand on.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Christ4Ever]

Thankyou. I wish you good health.

Dear Sister,
I do love you!!! I'd rather have your prayers then your wishes!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus Dear Sister! Sending prayers Heavenward on your behalf that our Heavenly Father will watch over you, and keep you covered, that no harm/sickness befall you, or those you love.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[MedicBravo]

Dear Sister,
I truly hope it stays that way for you and those millions, and for those who may catch it, or those who do have adverse effects though you may not know them.
However, even more importantly may I suggest you give the Glory to God that you thus far been blessed to not have received it. Without whom there is no gain.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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She is one person. No one she knows has any problems with it. So? She doesn't know millions of people and in fact probably doesn't know 100 with a close relationship she can trust.
She has no authority and yet tries to say she knows better than millions who know more than her who work in Medicine.

 

[MedicBravo]

Well I shall have faith in the scientists on that.

That faith in humans will always fail you.

 

[MedicBravo]

I had my fourth jab done weeks ago and apart from the expected sore arm I have been absolutely fine. I know of nobody who has had any serious adverse effect from being vaccinated. In fact the elderly of my acquaintance get no side effects at all. But we all, millions of us, have the benefits of protection. Millions of us.

No, you don't.
You can get it again and again and if you're sick and having symptoms you can give it to someone else!
Those of us who are not won't get VAIDS or vaccine injured or even die as many have from that "Vaccine".

 

[Christ4Ever]

She is one person. No one she knows has any problems with it. So? She doesn't know millions of people and in fact probably doesn't know 100 with a close relationship she can trust.
She has no authority and yet tries to say she knows better than millions who know more than her who work in Medicine.

Dear Brother,
Why address the obvious?
Better that the focus be redirected to Christ Jesus.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[MedicBravo]

Dear Brother,
Why address the obvious?
Better that the focus be redirected to Christ Jesus.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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God commanded us to spread the Truth and that's not just about him did he not?
Aren't we to value life of self and others, even those ignorant of the truth? Yes.
God did all the creating but He has also inspired and used us in countless ways to improve this world.
A drug or vaccine is only as good as it's purpose and if the intentions behind it are good.
That one guy who thought he was Jesus used Kool-Aid to kill people and it wasn't aimed at Christians.
These globalists and others aren't targeting just Christians through we are one group that is.
Here's a good reminder.
No one elected the CDC or WHO. They have ZERO authority to make anyone do anything. The President doesn't have that power either. No entity in America or anywhere else has the authority. In fact, They will use force among other things.
God didn't make us doormats and we are also commanded to fight against evil and stand in the way of those who cannot.
The elderly, sick, maimed, oppressed and physically cannot take care of or defend themselves. You won't hear a lot about the truth on MSM or mainsteam social media b/c they are in on it.
Our "government" is exactly the people our FF warned us about. If you want you can sit idly by against such evil but truth is....prayer only goes so far.

 

[Christ4Ever]

God commanded us to spread the Truth and that's not just about him did he not?
Aren't we to value life of self and others, even those ignorant of the truth? Yes.
God did all the creating but He has also inspired and used us in countless ways to improve this world.
A drug or vaccine is only as good as it's purpose and if the intentions behind it are good.
That one guy who thought he was Jesus used Kool-Aid to kill people and it wasn't aimed at Christians.
These globalists and others aren't targeting just Christians through we are one group that is.
Here's a good reminder.
No one elected the CDC or WHO. They have ZERO authority to make anyone do anything. The President doesn't have that power either. No entity in America or anywhere else has the authority. In fact, They will use force among other things.
God didn't make us doormats and we are also commanded to fight against evil and stand in the way of those who cannot.
The elderly, sick, maimed, oppressed and physically cannot take care of or defend themselves. You won't hear a lot about the truth on MSM or mainsteam social media b/c they are in on it.
Our "government" is exactly the people our FF warned us about. If you want you can sit idly by against such evil but truth is....prayer only goes so far.

Dearest Brother,
If the one you have spoken to over how many postings has not accepted the truth you have presented by now, why continue to butt you head against the wall expecting anything but the rejection you have thus far received? You know what they say about crazy right? It's doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. I have no issue generally speaking with what you have presented here and in other threads. However, sincerity of purpose doesn't make one side any better than the other.

Many of those you speak of above, are not the ones who are reading your postings here on Talk Jesus, nor are the ones who do read them here appear to be moved from the positions they held before reading them. In many respects that is a sad commentary in the intractability of humanity in these days to change from a position they believe is right or they might be more informed than you give them credit for. Is this less different in presenting/sharing of the Gospel that most assuredly will change them to what God wants them to be, which is for the better. (Heavy sigh)

That is why I don't begrudge you in presenting your case here. While others would shut you down in a heartbeat, in the belief that they are doing good and honorable work by doing so!
We are living in a corrupted world, with self-serving people in positions of power, though I'm sure there are a few who are not either of those two things, but they are rarely evident, or I should say seen in/by an also corrupted media.

As far prayer going only so far. Well, hopefully they are going exactly to where they need to go. Our FF knew that, and it was known that GW would prayer every night for an hour. Now a days, you won't find folks praying for more than a minute or two once a week if that!!! So, if our prayers are ineffectual, I won't not attribute it to the failings in any way shape or form to our Heavenly Father, but to the people themselves. Who in many cases are not seeking His Will but their own desires or should I say wishes.

So, share what you feel moved to share on this subject, but don't expect much change. Hopefully, like presenting the Gospel, that you are able to plant a seed that will grow, and grow, and grow, until it blossoms into ripe and wonderous fruit of wisdom, knowledge, understanding, by God's grace.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Br. Bear]

We should always question so I apologize for any implication. I am sure you are a good person. So I am going to dis-attach from this whole opinionated political B's and go back to talking about Jesus. So sorry and goodbye from this opinion provoking division causing site. Be blessed.

Greetings,

it can and does get carnal at times but we can and should all be quick to share God's goodness in Christ.

As perfect as i might want to be and as perfect as i might want others to think of me and as perfect as what others might expect of me and as perfect as i pretend to be when judging others... i fail miserably and discover i am need of Salvation every day.

We are to walk with Him, not sit. Being forgiving needs regular doses of actions needing forgiving.
Mercy and Grace... how much really do we hold them dear... more than our very lives and all the petty little carnal chains that keep us imprisoned from real joy?

Do not be weary in doing well, Brother.

Keep the faith and add light to dark places


Bless you ....><>

 

[Dave M]

Greetings,

it can and does get carnal at times but we can and should all be quick to share God's goodness in Christ.

As perfect as i might want to be and as perfect as i might want others to think of me and as perfect as what others might expect of me and as perfect as i pretend to be when judging others... i fail miserably and discover i am need of Salvation every day.

We are to walk with Him, not sit. Being forgiving needs regular doses of actions needing forgiving.
Mercy and Grace... how much really do we hold them dear... more than our very lives and all the petty little carnal chains that keep us imprisoned from real joy?

Do not be weary in doing well, Brother.

Keep the faith and add light to dark places

Bless you ....><>

Your heart always shines in your post love ya man !!