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I take those points on board. Fair enough.
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The least understood thing about conspiracy is the fac that it doesn't require more than one person to exist. Conspiracy is an alternative spelling to Christianity, it's related to "Masonry", although no one in it ever has the secret formula for firing red brick in a kiln or enough patience and skill to build anything out of red brick. Conspirators aren't in church spiritually, they're just with the spire. Another way of saying it is "steeplychase", which is English.
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Totally in error. You should do your homework.
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To conspire comes from the Lartin to breathe together (spire from to breathe) and it referred to whenever a group spoke about and agreed to a plan or notion to do something (a plan for example). In the early 20th century it became a legal term regarding when some group together planned something illegitimate or illegal or harmful to others.
Masonry simply refers to working in stone and there are many non-conspiratorial masons in out time. Now there are actual orders of Mason, like a guild or club and some, like the 32nd degree Masons of the Scottish rite, that are "secret societies" and they have blood oaths and hand signs and so on, shared only by them, They are in all areas of society and when one goes into bank or a court and they make the sign the broker or judge knows they are one of them and treats them differently (to their advantage). The Freemasons, for example, go all the way back many 10oos of years. In the Bible we read of Hiram who in building Spolomons temple it says no hammer or saw was used (yet all the sones fit together perfectly even if made many miles apart). The Taj Mahal and possibly even the Pyramids were built by these people.
Some conspiracies are real (like former President Trump and his co-defendants in the Georgia case) and many are fake (like the many today claiming to be Illuminati...if hey were you would NEVER know). And there are many other groups or organizations that co-conspire to achieve their goals (like the modern day Globalists...see Kofi Anan's OUr Global Neighborhood). Most "conspiracy theories" are false and made up by conspiratorialists with an agenda (like the stolen election myth that GOP investigators have proven false over and over).
Finally to conspire is not a twisting of th term Christianity. They have nothing to do with one another. One is right our in the open (Christianity) and it was never meant to be a plot or scheme.
Masonry simply refers to working in stone and there are many non-conspiratorial masons in out time. Now there are actual orders of Mason, like a guild or club and some, like the 32nd degree Masons of the Scottish rite, that are "secret societies" and they have blood oaths and hand signs and so on, shared only by them, They are in all areas of society and when one goes into bank or a court and they make the sign the broker or judge knows they are one of them and treats them differently (to their advantage). The Freemasons, for example, go all the way back many 10oos of years. In the Bible we read of Hiram who in building Spolomons temple it says no hammer or saw was used (yet all the sones fit together perfectly even if made many miles apart). The Taj Mahal and possibly even the Pyramids were built by these people.
Some conspiracies are real (like former President Trump and his co-defendants in the Georgia case) and many are fake (like the many today claiming to be Illuminati...if hey were you would NEVER know). And there are many other groups or organizations that co-conspire to achieve their goals (like the modern day Globalists...see Kofi Anan's OUr Global Neighborhood). Most "conspiracy theories" are false and made up by conspiratorialists with an agenda (like the stolen election myth that GOP investigators have proven false over and over).
Finally to conspire is not a twisting of th term Christianity. They have nothing to do with one another. One is right our in the open (Christianity) and it was never meant to be a plot or scheme.
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Masons have nothing to do with Solomon or the temple.
It’s just a vehicle they use.
Like Catholics claiming they go back to Peter when actually Peter was never in Rome. Much less a pope.
Just something to make them sound legit
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When Hiram helps with the Temple he only works with stone (hence a Mason). 1 Kings 6:7
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Still hasn’t anything to do with the Freemason organization.
Cabinet maker works in wood. So what?
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You don't bother me by speaking out what you think is going on. I don't see that as making one a conspiracy theorist either.This has been evident in America here in the past 6 years or more. The weaponization of not only political institutions, but media outlets that allow for only one side to be presented, and the demonization of anything contrary is not the way this country was meant to operate. I guess by me even mentioning this, can be seen by some as being CT talking!
There's an element of Christ's enemies that also like to use propaganda creations against those doing Christ's work of warning about Biblical prophecy for the end of this world. One of the tools they like to use is the term, "conspiracy theorist". It's easy to use, because when used it is designed to create doubt about the one it is directed at.
Lord Jesus Himself was believed to be a 'seditionist' come to overthrow the government of Israel. That's what the Jews thought of Him. So that puts those that keep His Word in that same light among the unbelieving backward Jews who hate Him. They will have their reward.
Greetings,
Do you mind explaining why you wrote that, please?
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That is a strange thing to 'say'.
Do you mind explaining why you wrote that, please?
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Greetings,
That seems to contract what you posted here:
Is it one or the other or both?
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That seems to contract what you posted here:
Why do people hate the Jews?
where is that written, please? In the knowledge of the holy.
www.talkjesus.com
Is it one or the other or both?
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Dear Brother,
Agree.
I have a T-Shirt I like to wear that elicits a comment or two and reads:
Noah was a Conspiracy Theorist
Then it started to rain...
Dealt with a bit of classified, and intel during my 20 years in comm. So, propaganda is never a surprise and I take most reporting with a grain of salt.
That is why trusting in His Word is the best for anyone in these darkening days we are living in. A lot of prayer and reading of His Word. He won't lead you astray!
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBC
Nick
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Self explanatory.
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You mean you don't know what Jesus said in Revelation 2 and 3 about false Jews?
Greetings,
Do you mean,
If you read what you posted, please, you did not mention false Jews, unless of course I missed it (referring to post in this thread).
If you did not specifically mention 'false' Jews, then it would appear contradictory to the reader who read both threads (posts you made on both threads).
If you would like me to edit your above post, please let me know.
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Do you mean,
?
If you read what you posted, please, you did not mention false Jews, unless of course I missed it (referring to post in this thread).
If you did not specifically mention 'false' Jews, then it would appear contradictory to the reader who read both threads (posts you made on both threads).
If you would like me to edit your above post, please let me know.
Bless you ....><>
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Definitely agree. And I love the T-shirt idea.Dear Brother,
Agree.
I have a T-Shirt I like to wear that elicits a comment or two and reads:
Noah was a Conspiracy Theorist
Then it started to rain...
Dealt with a bit of classified, and intel during my 20 years in comm. So, propaganda is never a surprise and I take most reporting with a grain of salt.
That is why trusting in His Word is the best for anyone in these darkening days we are living in. A lot of prayer and reading of His Word. He won't lead you astray!
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBC
Nick
\o/
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I have known about the plans for a "one world government" since the late 1970's, and of course many called me a 'conspiracy theorist' back then, because they never heard any such thing on TV or the news media. The reality is that most folks don't bother reading political documents and books that the "Establishment" writes for each other. That stuff they don't put in textbooks, like ex-Georgetown history professor Carrol Quigley's 1960's book Tragedy and Hope, where he revealed that the American Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) is actually a think-tank established in the U.S. back in the 1920's by British socialists of the 'Round Table' political group in Britain.
Bill Clinton in his inaugural speech praised his Georgetown professor Carrol Quigley. Quigley's book wasn't written for the general populace; it was written for Establishment insiders. And because of some of the things revealed in his book, the Establishment had the publisher destroy the printing plates, which Quigley had to sue his publisher to find out why they stopped printing his book. Quigley said he personally had no problem with their movement, just that he thought their working behind the scenes influenced history enough to be known. Quigley didn't agree with their wanting to remain secret. One can find a free .pdf online of his book, but I don't know how reliable of a reproduction it is. The original edition had something over 1300 pages.
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The reference to 'false Jews' is from what Lord Jesus said in Revelation.
Rev 2:8-9
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
KJV
Rev 3:7-9
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
KJV
That "synagogue of Satan" is not simply about Jews of the seed of Israel that God has blinded per Romans 11:7-11.
There is a difference between those of the "synagogue of Satan" and blinded Jews of the 'seed' which reject(ed) Jesus Christ as Messiah. Most Churches instead teach that group is just about blinded Jews of the seed. Not so.
Early in Israel's history, foreigners of the Canaanites begin creeping in among Israel (among the tribe of Judah especially). And God warned them about it, and finally said He would leave those foreigners among Israel to test them with, to see if they would follow Him, or not...
Judg 2:1-3
2 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, "I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break My covenant with you.
2 And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed My voice: why have ye done this?
3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you."
KJV
Judg 2:20-23
20 And the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel; and He said, "Because that this people hath transgressed My covenant which I commanded their fathers, and have not hearkened unto My voice;
21 I also will not henceforth drive out any from before them of the nations which Joshua left when he died:
22 That through them I may prove Israel, whether they will keep the way of the LORD to walk therein, as their fathers did keep it, or not."
23 Therefore the LORD left those nations, without driving them out hastily; neither delivered He them into the hand of Joshua.
KJV
The people of the land of Canaan called Kenites (Gen.15) eventually became the scribes of Israel, in care of keep copies of God's written Word from generation to generation (1 Chronicles 2:55).
Per Joshua 9, a group of Canaanites dressed up in worn clothes and spoiled food to simulate like they had come from a far country, and needed aid, wanting to join with Joshua. God at that time had given Israel power to destroy the Canaanite nations God had commanded, so those Canaanites were hiding to Joshua. Thus Joshua allowed a pact to bring them in to dwell among them. Then one of the Israelites looked in their bags and noted those were actually Canaanites. Joshua then made them 'bondservants' to Israel, hewers of wood, and drawers of water for God's house, even for the Altar of The Lord.
In 1 Kings 9:19-22, during Solomon's day, there they still were dwelling among Israel as bondservants. After the return of the small remnant of the "house of Judah" from their Babylon captivity, back to Jerusalem, Ezra 2 reveals those bondservants still, some of them called Nethinims (means given to temple service), and that some of them had even crept into the priesthood. It was actually the job of the Levites for the service in the temple, but they allowed those foreigners of the Canaanites to creep by making them bondservants for the temple service, something that was against God's commandment.
By the time of Jesus' 1st coming, they were already established in God's house, the temple, and in high positions among the religious heads of the priests and Pharisees. It's easy to see why the scribes were usually among the band of Pharisees that went around trying to trap Lord Jesus to have Him crucified, because those scribes were not of the 'seed' of Israel, but were of the Canaanite nation of Kenite peoples.
And not all the Pharisees and priests were secret foreigners. Apostle Paul himself originally was a Pharisee born of the tribe of Benjamin. Even king Herod, who was known as a Jew, was not a bloodline Jew of the seed of Israel. Herod was of Idumean birth, from the seed of Esau, Jacob's brother. Herod was a converted Jew. When God ordained destruction for the nation of Edom (means 'red', put for Esau's people), many of the people of Esau trekked to Judea and became religious Jews.
This is what the matter of Christ's parable of the "tares" of the field is about. The "tares" appear just like real wheat while its growing. Then at harvest time a tare sprouts a black bud on the end showing that it is actually a weed. The tares are thus separated from the wheat at harvest time. That's the horticulture of the tare.
Jude 4 reveals this matter also, which is how some... have been 'ordained' to this 'condemnation' of working against Christ. That means there is a literal 'seed' here on earth that serve as Lucifer's elect, and they knowingly work serve and worship him. And that is the origin of the Baal religious idol worship that began with Sargon I in ancient Sumer-Babylon, as recorded in the ancient Babylon clay cuneiform tablets. (I believe that Sargon I, one of Semitic origin, that suddenly appeared to the Sumerians around 3800 B.C., and taught them agriculture, the sciences, and built their first city, and began the first idol worship in history, was actually Cain. And thus ancient Sumer probably was the "land of Nod" where Cain was cast out to.)
Genesis 3:15 is the first record of this prophecy of battle between the two 'seeds', those who serve God and His Christ vs. those who serve Lucifer. So anyone who is not aware of that, which points directly to a Conspiracy against God and man, for this present world, isn't really reading their Bible.
