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I have found it almost impossible to find Spirit Filled Christians and there is no other type or kind.
Do we have freewill ? did we have freewill since the beginning ?
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Then you are not looking very hard
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I bet in your mail you get more than two bills. Lol
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Went over your head ? Lol
Kinda like war movies, ( i wonder if the other Bill feels the same as i ) everyone it always attacking us . You almost always here someone say , " fire at will "
Yes we have "Freewill", and everyday i see the effects of our "Freewill", and every day i pray to God for understanding as to why he gave it to us, because i for one would readily give up my "Freewill" if it meant we always did whats right,........ for then that would indeed be "Heaven on Earth.
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his is the point only God who is creator of good and evil of light and darkness is who moves it all, we were never meant to understand. What would of happen if he would of not put the tree of good and evil and would of never enter this world. We would of being like children still with our envelope of innocence and be in front ogf God protected by him ?
Yes, our purpose was not good or evil and by human fault we felled. If the tree was not their we would of fallen one will ask ? Nope, everything has plan and God never wanted man in this position what was the purpose of the tree afterwards ? if he would never eaten of it would of other animals eat of it and not man ? or later remove as time passed ? We will never know ? What was really the purpose just as A test of not to be eatena nd alter remove by God ?
But still we know God said that man was like him and the angels that knoweth good and evil ! And still we realize the devil had freewill before us and he fell ! But we know that in our error of Adam we can decide not like the devil but do good in the mistake and rely on God's effort and not our owns and put things in God's hands. Our destiny can change and move but some of you question we cannot escape him or his destiny he saved for us. The question do you want the destiny he did not prepare and leave us in possibility of A million to one what will happen and man just be thrown in space and let him decide ? What will be the outcome if you can plan everyhing since your born from A baby and turn into an adult that instance and God gave you all the power of the future and destiny you wanted ? you will know what you know and you will make A decision better ?
No, this why it is better that inside this world we live we can live in many possibilities and be saved by grace and baptized from sin into salvation and put love into salvation ! We would not of found our destiny if we could decide our destiny in that moment from baby to adult in space. He put us in Eden to be protected and choose not to eat the tree of good and evil and let use have choice ! If we didn't eat we will be perfect and without sin ! But we felled and he gave As econd chance in Jesus and glad that even those scientist believe if they ahd possiblity to ebf ree into choosing thier future our possiblities from predestination would make thier sum of equations and free from God soveriegn and have freewill ?
You have freewill protected and relying in God's effort and his soveriegn that you are not in space making decision but here in the world where in his care of law of moses and law of genesis. They would not of eating the fruti they will live in the probabilities in those rules and soveriegn of G-d's law and love. Be under his guidance and be saved. Knowing we can change those probablities and change our destiny from being A shoe salesman and into lawyer or governor of A state and reach our max and be what we want !
Moses chaneg those probabilities and also Huldah in her prophecy, G-d could reverse those action make us forget it and then done but he let those error stay and destiny was changed seeing he does not make it all effect in a sense of our errors do not ruin our future and in error the Eden will return and heaven on earth and we will be saved despite our errors in Jesus. God could of just erase us and no one will know of our exsitence and done but he lets us know and see those error have existed and predestiantion can change and destiny and sum of those variables and one million in one probablities can change and anything is possible. Let us do good and make knowing of good and evil in God's favor and find our purpose in life and pray to him.
See he made probablities and the sense some people say that one can make decision and really can't change thier future or predestiantion just fear and laziness that future can change and just like Moses and Huldah made mistake know we can make success into our favor and do good and chaneg our future with him and play ahrd abll i life and into all the promblems life does go thru and breakthru it all and not passive christian that rolls over and breaks the mold life give and make good in life and saves his family.
Kicks and screams and changes his future his predestiantion and not this that with God you can't change your future or predestiantion I see you can't change your future idea and you do not understand it still ! This why you do not understand how freewill works in God's favor and his plan of God. But still stuck with the laws of modern world and liberalism USA faces ! You have freedom to choose and better under God's wing and not in space where psycologist and scientist say they don't get to choose and if they choose they would make more errors and wouldn't recognize them !
Yes, our purpose was not good or evil and by human fault we felled. If the tree was not their we would of fallen one will ask ? Nope, everything has plan and God never wanted man in this position what was the purpose of the tree afterwards ? if he would never eaten of it would of other animals eat of it and not man ? or later remove as time passed ? We will never know ? What was really the purpose just as A test of not to be eatena nd alter remove by God ?
But still we know God said that man was like him and the angels that knoweth good and evil ! And still we realize the devil had freewill before us and he fell ! But we know that in our error of Adam we can decide not like the devil but do good in the mistake and rely on God's effort and not our owns and put things in God's hands. Our destiny can change and move but some of you question we cannot escape him or his destiny he saved for us. The question do you want the destiny he did not prepare and leave us in possibility of A million to one what will happen and man just be thrown in space and let him decide ? What will be the outcome if you can plan everyhing since your born from A baby and turn into an adult that instance and God gave you all the power of the future and destiny you wanted ? you will know what you know and you will make A decision better ?
No, this why it is better that inside this world we live we can live in many possibilities and be saved by grace and baptized from sin into salvation and put love into salvation ! We would not of found our destiny if we could decide our destiny in that moment from baby to adult in space. He put us in Eden to be protected and choose not to eat the tree of good and evil and let use have choice ! If we didn't eat we will be perfect and without sin ! But we felled and he gave As econd chance in Jesus and glad that even those scientist believe if they ahd possiblity to ebf ree into choosing thier future our possiblities from predestination would make thier sum of equations and free from God soveriegn and have freewill ?
You have freewill protected and relying in God's effort and his soveriegn that you are not in space making decision but here in the world where in his care of law of moses and law of genesis. They would not of eating the fruti they will live in the probabilities in those rules and soveriegn of G-d's law and love. Be under his guidance and be saved. Knowing we can change those probablities and change our destiny from being A shoe salesman and into lawyer or governor of A state and reach our max and be what we want !
Moses chaneg those probabilities and also Huldah in her prophecy, G-d could reverse those action make us forget it and then done but he let those error stay and destiny was changed seeing he does not make it all effect in a sense of our errors do not ruin our future and in error the Eden will return and heaven on earth and we will be saved despite our errors in Jesus. God could of just erase us and no one will know of our exsitence and done but he lets us know and see those error have existed and predestiantion can change and destiny and sum of those variables and one million in one probablities can change and anything is possible. Let us do good and make knowing of good and evil in God's favor and find our purpose in life and pray to him.
See he made probablities and the sense some people say that one can make decision and really can't change thier future or predestiantion just fear and laziness that future can change and just like Moses and Huldah made mistake know we can make success into our favor and do good and chaneg our future with him and play ahrd abll i life and into all the promblems life does go thru and breakthru it all and not passive christian that rolls over and breaks the mold life give and make good in life and saves his family.
Kicks and screams and changes his future his predestiantion and not this that with God you can't change your future or predestiantion I see you can't change your future idea and you do not understand it still ! This why you do not understand how freewill works in God's favor and his plan of God. But still stuck with the laws of modern world and liberalism USA faces ! You have freedom to choose and better under God's wing and not in space where psycologist and scientist say they don't get to choose and if they choose they would make more errors and wouldn't recognize them !
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God doesnt want robots, nor people forced to love Him. He only wants us to strive to comprehend Love as He does.
And for us to love Him
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You haven’t read The Book!
You might have read here and skip it here and there and hop back over here and read what another Skipper wrote here and then pick up a hopper over here then you jump over here, and Now, you would never have The Patience or Discipline to walk across to The Promise Land,
Traveling from The Land of “Canaan” to Egypt to Goshen back to Egypt cross The Red Sea, to “Mt. Sinai” to “Kadesh Barneea” and still remembing “Jacob back when he was crying out in “Shechem”. And you most likely skip over why “Samson” fell in love with a “Philistine” Woman.
PS. Don’t you know That “GOD” knows The Out Come, The End of All Things, before “THE BEGINNING”?
Before The Stars, before Heaven was Created, before There was “Air”?
Don’t you know, GOD knew what Adam was Going to eat, for Breakfast, before There was. A Sun in the Sky?
Are you sure you know “GOD” or are you just Familiar with a “title”?
GOD does not look into a future where a Future does not exists HE Determines The Out come of The Future! He is The Creator
of The Future!
He determines what the future is, not man!
He is The “Potter” everything else is the clay!
And For all you “Arm chair Scholars” both“Domestic, Religious, Educated and non educated, and including The “Astrophysicist” with “Philosophical” thought patterns, who want to say; that “GOD” don’t make Robots or Zombies!
I tell you NOW! In a Ghetto vernacular!
“GOD makes what HE wants to Make!
If he wants Zombies, who can stop him?
If He Wants “Robots” He Wants Robots!
If Wants “Sons” that look like and act like His only “SON” the One That Created All CREATION even Heaven itself and AllThe Angels even The Devil!
If He wants To Give Them A Full Inheritance Egual, To “The WORD of GOD” who can Stop HIM!
If That is His will, HIS Will, Will be Done!
FOR HE IS:
“THE ALMIGHTY GOD”!
AND HiS WILL,
Is The Only Will That Exists!
[Meaning his will Supersedes all wills]
Everything Thing Else is “CLAY”! And Clay has No Freewill!
Tell it to “Luther” tell it to “Jonathan Edwards”, that “PLOUGHBOY” said it, proclaimed it and witness to it, The WORD of TRUTH!
“GOD RULES” and Satan cannot pass Gas, unless GOD gives The Permission For Him to do so!
“GOD is “SOVEREIGN”
The wind do not Blow unless it Has Permission to Blow.
How long how wide how high how fast is determined by The Will of GOD!
Now a “Finite Mind,” might have problem with that.
What can we expect from a corrupt creature?
Here we all stand before a “HOLY GOD”
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You haven’t read The Book!
You might have read here and skip it here and there and hop back over here and read what another Skipper wrote here and then pick up a hopper over here then you jump over here, and Now, you would never have The Patience or Discipline to walk across to The Promise Land,
Traveling from The Land of “Canaan” to Egypt to Goshen back to Egypt cross The Red Sea, to “Mt. Sinai” to “Kadesh Barneea” and still remembing “Jacob back when he was crying out in “Shechem”. And you most likely skip over why “Samson” fell in love with a “Philistine” Woman.
PS. Don’t you know That “GOD” knows The Out Come, The End of All Things, before “THE BEGINNING”?
Before The Stars, before Heaven was Created, before There was “Air”?
Don’t you know, GOD knew what Adam was Going to eat, for Breakfast, before There was. A Sun in the Sky?
Are you sure you know “GOD” or are you just Familiar with a “title”?
GOD does not look into a future where a Future does not exists HE Determines The Out come of The Future! He is The Creator
of The Future!
He determines what the future is, not man!
He is The “Potter” everything else is the clay!
And For all you “Arm chair Scholars” both“Domestic, Religious, Educated and non educated, and including The “Astrophysicist” with “Philosophical” thought patterns, who want to say; that “GOD” don’t make Robots or Zombies!
I tell you NOW! In a Ghetto vernacular!
“GOD makes what HE wants to Make!
If he wants Zombies, who can stop him?
If He Wants “Robots” He Wants Robots!
If Wants “Sons” that look like and act like His only “SON” the One That Created All CREATION even Heaven itself and AllThe Angels even The Devil!
If He wants To Give Them A Full Inheritance Egual, To “The WORD of GOD” who can Stop HIM!
If That is His will, HIS Will, Will be Done!
FOR HE IS:
“THE ALMIGHTY GOD”!
AND HiS WILL,
Is The Only Will That Exists!
[Meaning his will Supersedes all wills]
Everything Thing Else is “CLAY”! And Clay has No Freewill!
Tell it to “Luther” tell it to “Jonathan Edwards”, that “PLOUGHBOY” said it, proclaimed it and witness to it, The WORD of TRUTH!
“GOD RULES” and Satan cannot pass Gas, unless GOD gives The Permission For Him to do so!
“GOD is “SOVEREIGN”
The wind do not Blow unless it Has Permission to Blow.
How long how wide how high how fast is determined by The Will of GOD!
Now a “Finite Mind,” might have problem with that.
What can we expect from a corrupt creature?
Here we all stand before a “HOLY GOD”
Ploghboy you pop the hopper no popper not worthy of clay matter no potter you are but excuser of time and just not wanting to do God's will and still too late and writes when he should be preaching the word in the streets ! Really I know who is God and he saves us but you do't know how to use your freewill that is why your here. Don't make excuses go make your destiny and be happy do the impossible and understand what is love of God. No more excuses no more excuses !!!!!!
listen to this and do it now !!! You got A whole mountian sleepy head now do it.
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Number 1 Read The Book as Abook, make sure you have a Reliable excellent Bible “Encyclopedia” “ISBE” a Excellent Bible “TRANSLATION”. A Brown Diver Briggs Lexicon, Thayer’sGreekEbglish Lexicon, and grab “Vines” Dictionary of New Testament’s words, and The Englishmen Greek The Englishmen Hebrew Concordance, and” a Strongs and Young’s concordance, Collegiate dictionary and A Unabridged English dictionary.
And get A copy of The Greek and Hebrew Alphabet chart. That you may learn the foreign Alphabets SoThat you may use these tools concerning The Biblical Writings of GOD that you may not be lead away by some “Bible Translation” concerning “The Very WORD OF GOD”
Now Set your Table on The Floor and Get ready To slay and eat. And sleep right there of The Floor.
Days upon days nights upon nights years upon years, sometime all nighters.
Now show yourself to “GOD” and Prove to HIM! your Are True Disciple of GOD,
Proven to HIM!
By spending days night crying laboring praying going without food, because you have forgotten to eat! As you studied.
Pray and cried to you until yo cannot cry anymore for Him to Teach you how to Read His, WORD WITHOUT error! AND HOw TO separate it.
Not to impress others but to know His WORD and To Rightly Divide it!
Praying, tears running like water in your lap for GOD to Teach you Hebrew Tense Greek Tense, Asking Him InTears to Stamp Every word on Your Heart And mind and soul That Belongs to HIM,
And GOD what
you do not want me to know let it not take hold on me!
But do not let it in me!
Thousand and Thousand of Prayers you prayed for him and him alone to teach how to read it how to explain it, How to remember it in your dreams and as you walk down the street as you your drove your car As you Drove your Truck As you rode your bike as you Ski The Snow covered Mountains in Utah, Bristish Columbia And as you Ski The Glades in “Quebec” Teach me LORD! As I Cut around mountain curves, and death is around corner lurking in unknown Territory, with a backpack on my back! And have sharpened my Ski’s sharper than a Double edge sword!
Cutting through ice!
A Blackman from Detroit. The Blackest thing on The Mountain. Everybody knew me!
This over 40 years of Laboring Praying, crying, make room in my life that Word Is Chief in My Life, Make Room!
Then one day after 30 years, it Don on me “GOD” had answer my prayers a long time ago.
I understood, I understood, I understood.
While others lied , cheated, committed Pelagiarism concerning the Biblical text I never learned to walk in such paths. He kept separate from such who tactics such ways unbeknown to them.
“I am The Real McCoy”!
“Many are called But FEW Are CHOSEN”
Like They Say: The common Christian cannot understand “THEE Theologian”!
On Their Best day.
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PS
PS. I am retired and worn out !
I am worn Out!
They have step on me lied on me, drag me down the street and called me every name but a Child of GOD! Even in my own House! And I ain’t Done anything wrong or Told them to do anything wrong!
I just will not worship those gods they serve!
I do not care what anybody say these people out here is danger! If They kill Jesus, they will get rid their own babes and they will get you too! If They kill GOD what do you think they will do to a husband?
“do not be deceive”
If they will abort “Jesus” don’t let that make up fool you.
If you do not believe me, ask those two witnesses! And when they get through they going to throw a party!
PS. I am retired and worn out !
I am worn Out!
They have step on me lied on me, drag me down the street and called me every name but a Child of GOD! Even in my own House! And I ain’t Done anything wrong or Told them to do anything wrong!
I just will not worship those gods they serve!
I do not care what anybody say these people out here is danger!
If They kill Jesus, they will get rid their own babes and they will get you too! If They kill GOD what do you think they will do to a husband?“do not be deceive”
If they will abort “Jesus”
don’t let that make up fool you.If you do not believe me, ask those two witnesses! And when they get through they going to throw a party!
I agree that the Lord does this for all those who put their trust & hope in Jesus Christ to being their Good Shepherd & Friend.God is sovereign.
Proverbs 16:9
"The heart of a son of man plans his ways and LORD JEHOVAH orders his steps.All of the works of the Lord are done with righteousness; and the ungodly man is kept for the evil day. We make our own plans, but the LORD decides where we will go. The heart of man disposeth his way: but the Lord must direct his steps."
Proverbs 16:9 - The Reply of the Tongue is from the LORD
A man's heart plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.biblehub.com
Looking back at all the mistakes I had made and how stupid & foolish I was, it is amazing how much God is my Friend and my Good Shepherd to help me to follow Him.
There is no power in our flesh when we make a decision though as the spirits can be willing, but the flesh is weak so what is impossible with man is possible with God.
As sinners before we were saved, were we not slave to sin? Where is the free will in that?
Did not the Father draw us unto the Son per John 6:44 to reveal His Son to us Matthew 11:25-27 so we can believe in Him to be saved as our belief is a work manifested by God John 3:18-21 ?
I can find myself after salvation, in choosing to serve the Lord Jesus Christ & nothing else in His name, but I find that I needed His help as my Good Shepherd & Friend to do that. And I sure did needed His help.
I needed His help to set me free from my commitments & promises to Him in trying to follow Him by doing the best I can in keeping those commitments & promises. Now I rest in Him & His word to me that He will help me to follow Him.
I needed His help to keep me from falling in those supernatural movements of what they claim was the Holy Spirit so that I do not preach that phenomenon in His name in seeking the glory of that movement of the "spirit" but to serve the Lord Jesus Christ alone by preaching Him in seeking His glory which is what the real indwelling Holy Spirit in me is sent to do and also in leading me to do the same because that is what being a disciple of Jesus Christ is supposed to do.
John 15:1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
The topic of free will is misleading and scripture does not really push free will as if there is power when we make a choice when that power in following Him is from Him when we trust Him to do it, helping us to follow Him.
Because we are still in this sinful flesh, is why the sinful flesh will always be tempted to sin, but our trusting the Lord Jesus Christ for helping us to follow Him as His disciples is how we live in His power & His care as the sons of God.
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We can freewill decide to stop sinning and be baptized if Freewill existed in Eden ? Yes, Adam choose to go right and obey and not eat of the tree and fell and choosed left and sinned and had freewill in it. Freewill was before the creation ? Yes, the devil had freewill and he rebbeled and did sin and did wrong ! We don't follow the devil but choose to do good with our promblem of knowing good and evil !
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We certainly will my brother , we will through a grand party . And we will finally meet , you and i . And we will laugh and sing with the Most High.PS
PS. I am retired and worn out !
I am worn Out!
They have step on me lied on me, drag me down the street and called me every name but a Child of GOD! Even in my own House! And I ain’t Done anything wrong or Told them to do anything wrong!
I just will not worship those gods they serve!
I do not care what anybody say these people out here is danger!
“do not be deceive”
If they will abort “Jesus”
If you do not believe me, ask those two witnesses! And when they get through they going to throw a party!
