Does Jesus love satan?

[Bill]

I think of myself to be as exactly as God made me and blessed me.
And that is His glory and it is magnificent.

Now if you think of yourself as nothing...maybe it is because you are nothing to God.

But to God I am His magnificent offspring in His own image.

I would advise you to pay no mind to anything written in a book by men unless it is the truth.

Especially if they say it is from God.

Look at your own life...how is that working out for you?

It is interesting to me that so many people say the same as you have said , not to trust others even when they say " its from God ". Does anyone really have the Gifts of the Holy Spirit anymore . If you did , then you would already know if the book was inspired by God .

Oh , one small but important note . It takes practice to recognize the movements of the Holy Spirit

 

[Bill]

Who is trying to make amends? Satan? Satan doesn't love you on Christmas. Satan wants to drag us all to hell. I am sorry but I do not want to eat with satan. Can I toss him a sandwich and say " Begone satan!"?

Jesus still loves Lucifer . Not what Lucifer has become , but the Angel He created.

It is how we should strive to be with all who offend God

 

[B-A-C]

Did God hate Ephraim? Does He love Satan more than these?

Hos 9:13; Ephraim, as I have seen, Is planted in a pleasant meadow like Tyre; But Ephraim will bring out his children for slaughter.
Hos 9:14; Give them, O LORD—what will You give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.
Hos 9:15; All their evil is at Gilgal; Indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels.

Mal 1:3; but I have hated Esau, and I have made his mountains a desolation and appointed his inheritance for the jackals of the wilderness."
Rom 9:13; Just as it is written, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED."

Does God love Satan more than He loves Esau?
Should we love those who hate God?

2Chr 19:2; Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the LORD and so bring wrath on yourself from the LORD?

Psa 139:21; Do I not hate those who hate You, O LORD? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?

 

[MorningBirds]

Hi Brothers and sisters,

So here's my question; Jesus tells us to love our enemies (satan is the enemy). Does that mean we should love pagans, evildoers, the wicked and satan and his emmiseries?

Thanks guys.

There is love in Christianity, but even in the scriptures, we are called to hate/shun/leave evil. The enemy is the enemy, and God's family is God's family.

 

[DieAmartyr]

Jesus still loves Lucifer . Not what Lucifer has become , but the Angel He created.

It is how we should strive to be with all who offend God

Even after what He has done to so many of His children? How could He love someone who seeks to destroy an entire race of beings and has become so vile? Lucifer no longer exists. He has no compassion, no mercy, and no love in him except for that of self. People say that we "choose" to go to hell. So many people have been misled to think that the devil and hell do not exist and are horrified in death to find out that they do. They are all repenting in hell, begging for a way out and only now understanding the error of their ways but it is too late. They are in agony burning over and over again with no rest, no water, no God and no hope. If given a second chance don't you think they would do something different?

 

[PloughBoy]

Let them do as they Please: We who are the chosen "Elect" The "Sons of God" know what we are going to do! And we don't need a debate.

43“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR, and hate your enemy.’ 44“But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you 45in order that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on therighteous and the unrighteous. 46“For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax-gatherers do the same? 47“And if you greet your brothers only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48“Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

For we are different from the rest! And we know His voice and we will not follow another!

And the rest, He will tell them "I never Knew you"

 

[PloughBoy]

Even after what He has done to so many of His children? How could He love someone who seeks to destroy an entire race of beings and has become so vile? Lucifer no longer exists. He has no compassion, no mercy, and no love in him except for that of self. People say that we "choose" to go to hell. So many people have been misled to think that the devil and hell do not exist and are horrified in death to find out that they do. They are all repenting in hell, begging for a way out and only now understanding the error of their ways but it is too late. They are in agony burning over and over again with no rest, no water, no God and no hope. If given a second chance don't you think they would do something different?

PS GOD sends People to Hell, not Satan! God is Sovereign not The "Adversary" he is A creation of "GOD ALMIGHTY". The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost" ! The perfect "Adversary" to Train us! Satan is Not GOD 's enemy We are. He is God's instrument. Satan obey's God, we don't ! Read your bible, Satan does what God tells him to do, we don't! Satan does not do anything unless GOD gives him permission!

If you obeyed God and on your way to the lake of fire, you will be mad too, if another creature dis obey's God every day, He receives grace and forgiveness, mercy and you don't ! You would be mad at the creature too, and wage war on that creature. Because you sure cannot destroy or harm The God ALMIGHTY, because Satan is not as powerful as a Arch- Angel who is going to bound him with a chain and throw him into a pit.

This stuff is all in the Bible and not speculation.

Our creator is more than a mere word. He is "TheTetragrammaton"(. Learn who the Father is first and not the name. Get a loving relationship with Him, for that is the purpose of our "Being" for ever and ever and ever more. We are to be one.


A lot Christians don't know this stuff, But the "Sons of God" do! And I am surprise they are not speaking up Both males and females. For these things are elementary truths.

 

[DieAmartyr]

PS GOD sends People to Hell, not Satan! God is Sovereign not The "Adversary" he is A creation of "GOD ALMIGHTY". The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost" ! The perfect "Adversary" to Train us! Satan is Not GOD 's enemy We are. He is God's instrument. Satan obey's God, we don't ! Read your bible, Satan does what God tells him to do, we don't! Satan does not do anything unless GOD gives him permission!

If you obeyed God and on your way to the lake of fire, you will be mad too, if another creature dis obey's God every day, He receives grace and forgiveness, mercy and you don't ! You would be mad at the creature too, and wage war on that creature. Because you sure cannot destroy or harm The God ALMIGHTY, because Satan is not as powerful as a Arch- Angel who is going to bound him with a chain and throw him into a pit.

This stuff is all in the Bible and not speculation.

Our creator is more than a mere word. He is "TheTetragrammaton"(. Learn who the Father is first and not the name. Get a loving relationship with Him, for that is the purpose of our "Being" for ever and ever and ever more. We are to be one.


A lot Christians don't know this stuff, But the "Sons of God" do! And I am surprise they are not speaking up Both males and females. For these things are elementary truths.

You said "Satan is Not GOD 's enemy We are."

We are God's enemy? That is in the Bible? I have never heard that before. Funny because my Bible refers to Satan as the enemy!

Control yourselves and be careful! The devil is your enemy, and he goes around like a roaring lion looking for someone to attack and eat. 1 Peter 5:8

And the enemy who planted the bad seed is the devil. The harvest is the end of time. And the workers who gather are God’s angels Matthew 13:39


The weapons we use are not human ones. Our weapons have power from God and can destroy the enemy’s strong places. We destroy people’s arguments,
2 Corinthians 10:4

The last scripture says Our power from God destroys the enemy's strong places. It sounds to me like the devil is an enemy to God as well. Sure there are men who are an enemy to God, but they are son's of the Father of Lies. The Bible does not teach that God is our enemy. I don't know how you can even say that.

 

[PloughBoy]

The Bible says: he is your enemy and It did not say he was GOD's enemy, Do you think honestly that God wrestles and fights with the Devil? And The devil is a problem for GOD! If that is Your God, he is a weak one! You ought to try mines! Mines just Speaks! in any form He chooses! and Glalaxies , Solar Systems , in which 10's of billions ,Solar systems that we know of. And 100 billion solar systems in our Galaxy alone. and over A 100 billion GALAXIES THAT we know of, and discoverying more each day, comes into existence. It is estimated it might be over a "Trillion" Galaxies and growing. And guess who made it. And Jesus is still MAking us a place. Have you every thought about why God is doing this, SInce we are living in "The Beginning" of Some Great event that GOD the Father is Doing For HIS SON ,,a "GIFT", and we the sons of GOD will share this "Gift" with The only begotten Son of The Father and "REIGN" with Him throughout "ETERNITY" where there is no end! And Time in that Place where will We dwell, does not exists! This story is about HIS SON! His LOVE for HIS SON! and The "Gift" He is going give HIM.

I am beginning to see a clear difference of the knowledge between "christians" and The "Elect of GOD" who are "THE Sons of GOD" Born of HIS Spirit" Those "Born of Heaven" The christians minds are "earthly" center on Materials Temporal things" things that fade away is always the goal of their language. That does not produce "Spiritual Life given unto us in "Christ" "but their words are concentrated upon exhultation of mankind" ! WHich has been foretold. And we should not be alarm. For those movements will never give a excitiment of a "Glorified" existence that leads to a "Sanctified" life style upon Earth, when earth dweller only have a somewhat mans view of a heaven that will be eventually destroyed by GOD. And behold all things will become NEW!

Jesus said:
Heaven and earth will pass away, but My wordswill never pass away. 36No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.…

[The world cannot fix this]
13And their wealth shall become a spoil, and their houses a desolation: yea, they shall build houses, but shall not inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, but shall not drink the wine thereof.
14The great day of Jehovah is near, it is near and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of Jehovah; the mighty man crieth there bitterly.
15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
16a day of the trumpet and alarm, against the fortified cities, and against the high battlements.
17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against Jehovah; and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as dung.
18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he will make an end, yea, a terrible end, of all them that dwell in the land.

A New Heaven and a New Earth
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, forthe first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.…

[GOD is Creating more than a "New Jerusalem" He is Making a "New Creation"! a new existence to place The New Jeusalem to dwell in as well! All things wil be NEW! and your mind cannot "comprehend" the existence" because it has never existed before, in form or matter! It is "Infinite" and a "Finite" mind cannot "Comprehend the Incomprehensible"! For it is impossible to do so. It is a Gift to HIS SON!

And who do you think The kings of the new earth are?
American Standard Version
And the nations shall walk amidst the light thereof: and the kings of the earth bring their glory into it.

 

[DieAmartyr]

The Bible says: he is your enemy and It did not say he was GOD's enemy, Do you think honestly that God wrestles and fights with the Devil? And The devil is a problem for GOD! If that is Your God, he is a weak one! You ought to try mines! Mines just Speaks! in any form He chooses! and Glalaxies , Solar Systems , in which 10's of billions ,Solar systems that we know of. And 100 billion solar systems in our Galaxy alone. and over A 100 billion GALAXIES THAT we know of, and discoverying more each day, comes into existence. It is estimated it might be over a "Trillion" Galaxies and growing. And guess who made it. And Jesus is still MAking us a place. Have you every thought about why God is doing this, SInce we are living in "The Beginning" of Some Great event that GOD the Father is Doing For HIS SON ,,a "GIFT", and we the sons of GOD will share this "Gift" with The only begotten Son of The Father and "REIGN" with Him throughout "ETERNITY" where there is no end! And Time in that Place where will We dwell, does not exists! This story is about HIS SON! His LOVE for HIS SON! and The "Gift" He is going give HIM.

I am beginning to see a clear difference of the knowledge between "christians" and The "Elect of GOD" who are "THE Sons of GOD" Born of HIS Spirit" Those "Born of Heaven" The christians minds are "earthly" center on Materials Temporal things" things that fade away is always the goal of their language. That does not produce "Spiritual Life given unto us in "Christ" "but their words are concentrated upon exhultation of mankind" ! WHich has been foretold. And we should not be alarm. For those movements will never give a excitiment of a "Glorified" existence that leads to a "Sanctified" life style upon Earth, when earth dweller only have a somewhat mans view of a heaven that will be eventually destroyed by GOD. And behold all things will become NEW!

Jesus said:
Heaven and earth will pass away, but My wordswill never pass away. 36No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.…

[The world cannot fix this]
13And their wealth shall become a spoil, and their houses a desolation: yea, they shall build houses, but shall not inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, but shall not drink the wine thereof.
14The great day of Jehovah is near, it is near and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of Jehovah; the mighty man crieth there bitterly.
15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
16a day of the trumpet and alarm, against the fortified cities, and against the high battlements.
17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against Jehovah; and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as dung.
18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he will make an end, yea, a terrible end, of all them that dwell in the land.

A New Heaven and a New Earth
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, forthe first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.…

[GOD is Creating more than a "New Jerusalem" He is Making a "New Creation"! a new existence to place The New Jeusalem to dwell in as well! All things wil be NEW! and your mind cannot "comprehend" the existence" because it has never existed before, in form or matter! It is "Infinite" and a "Finite" mind cannot "Comprehend the Incomprehensible"! For it is impossible to do so. It is a Gift to HIS SON!

And who do you think The kings of the new earth are?
American Standard Version
And the nations shall walk amidst the light thereof: and the kings of the earth bring their glory into it.

Exalt yourself all you want. I provided scripture that shows that Satan is our enemy. My God would destroy Satan if He didn't love him and give him time to repent. The only thing is that everything that is going to happen has already happened from God's point of view so He was able to prophesy it and tell us what is to come. Make no mistake- you are no better than anyone else as God is no respecter of persons. Why do you hold yourself in such high regard when true Christians put themselves at service to others. They don't talk down to them like they don't know anything.

Punish a rude, arrogant person, and even slow learners will become wiser. But just a little correction is enough to teach a person who has understanding Proverbs 19:25

To those who are proud I say, ‘Stop your boasting.’ I warn the wicked, ‘Don’t brag about how strong you are. Psalm 75:4

Do you even read others posts completely? You miss the mark on so many replies.

 

[PloughBoy]

Exalt yourself all you want. I provided scripture that shows that Satan is our enemy. My God would destroy Satan if He didn't love him and give him time to repent. The only thing is that everything that is going to happen has already happened from God's point of view so He was able to prophesy it and tell us what is to come. Make no mistake- you are no better than anyone else as God is no respecter of persons. Why do you hold yourself in such high regard when true Christians put themselves at service to others. They don't talk down to them like they don't know anything.

Punish a rude, arrogant person, and even slow learners will become wiser. But just a little correction is enough to teach a person who has understanding Proverbs 19:25

To those who are proud I say, ‘Stop your boasting.’ I warn the wicked, ‘Don’t brag about how strong you are. Psalm 75:4

Do you even read others posts completely? You miss the mark on so many replies.

Well you will not have worry about me anymore. I will stay on my side of the street. To keep the peace.

Shalom

 

[Sue D.]

WHY would Jesus love satan. Why would someone even Ask that question. God created Lucifer / who became satan/ as the most beautiful angel in heaven. Lucifer was the' bright and morning star'. He was created to be God's right=hand man -- angelic-wise. But Lucifer decided that he wanted to Be God. To be Like God.

God Did allow satan to roam around the world -- God Allowed satan to mess with Job. Satan was allowed to take everything earthly from Job to see how he would react. In the end -- everything Job had lost was replaced and more so.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to free us from the bondage of satan hold on us. His bodily resurrection broke the chains that satan had on mankind. We can Now have peace with God back.

 

[DieAmartyr]

WHY would Jesus love satan. Why would someone even Ask that question. God created Lucifer / who became satan/ as the most beautiful angel in heaven. Lucifer was the' bright and morning star'. He was created to be God's right=hand man -- angelic-wise. But Lucifer decided that he wanted to Be God. To be Like God.

God Did allow satan to roam around the world -- God Allowed satan to mess with Job. Satan was allowed to take everything earthly from Job to see how he would react. In the end -- everything Job had lost was replaced and more so.

Jesus Christ died on the cross to free us from the bondage of satan hold on us. His bodily resurrection broke the chains that satan had on mankind. We can Now have peace with God back.

I think because God loves everyone He created and maybe He is hoping satan would repent and change his ways. ( Here we go again)

I wrote out your petition, and in my vision it appeared thus, that your petition will not be granted unto you ⌈⌈throughout all the days of eternity, and that judgement has been finally passed upon you: yea (your petition) will not be granted unto you⌉⌉. 5. And from henceforth you shall not ascend into heaven unto all eternity, and ⌈in bonds⌉ of the earth the decree has gone forth to bind you for all the days of the world. 6. And (that) previously you shall have seen the destruction of your beloved sons and ye shall have no pleasure in them, but they shall fall before you by the sword. 7. And your petition on their behalf shall not be granted, nor yet on your own: even though you weep and pray and speak all the words contained in the writing which I have written. 8. And the vision was shown to me thus: Behold, in the vision clouds invited me and a mist summoned me, and the course of the stars and the lightnings sped and hastened me, and the winds in the vision caused me to fly and lifted me upward, and bore me into heaven. 9. And I went in till I drew nigh to a wall which is built of crystals and surrounded by tongues of fire: and it began to affright me. And I went into the tongues of fire and drew nigh to a large house which was built of crystals: and the walls of the house were like a tesselated floor (made) of crystals, and its groundwork was of crystal. 11. Its ceiling was like the path of the stars and the lightnings, and between them were fiery cherubim, and their heaven was (clear as) water. 12. A flaming fire surrounded the walls, and its portals blazed with fire. 13. And I entered into that house, and it was hot as fire and cold as ice: there were no delights of life therein: fear covered me, and trembling got hold upon me. 14. And as I quaked and trembled, I fell upon my face. 15. And I beheld a vision, And lo! there was a second house, greater than the former,

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and the entire portal stood open before me, and it was built of flames of fire. 16. And in every respect it so excelled in splendour and magnificence and extent that I cannot describe to you its splendour and its extent. 17. And its floor was of fire, and above it were lightnings and the path of the stars, and its ceiling also was flaming fire. 18. And I looked and saw ⌈⌈therein⌉⌉ a lofty throne: its appearance was as crystal, and the wheels thereof as the shining sun, and there was the vision of cherubim. 19. And from underneath the throne came streams of flaming fire so that I could not look thereon. 20. And the Great Glory sat thereon, and His raiment shone more brightly than the sun and was whiter than any snow. 21. None of the angels could enter and could behold His face by reason of the magnificence and glory and no flesh could behold Him. 22. The flaming fire was round about Him, and a great fire stood before Him, and none around could draw nigh Him: ten thousand times ten thousand (stood) before Him, yet He needed no counselor. 23. And the most holy ones who were nigh to Him did not leave by night nor depart from Him. 24. And until then I had been prostrate on my face, trembling: and the Lord called me with His own mouth, and said to me: 'Come hither, Enoch, and hear my word.'

Enoch Chapter XIV

 

[Sue D.]

Angels are not humans and cant repent. They were created for a specific reason.

God is all-knowing -- Lucifer caused his own problem and also knew what his end would be. So -- none of His hoping that satan would repent.

That which youve shared doesnt sound like Bible. So --no thank you.

 

[B-A-C]

maybe He is hoping satan would repent and change his ways.

Rev 20:10; And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

[DieAmartyr]

Angels are not humans and cant repent. They were created for a specific reason.

God is all-knowing -- Lucifer caused his own problem and also knew what his end would be. So -- none of His hoping that satan would repent.

That which youve shared doesnt sound like Bible. So --no thank you.

It still is worth reading. It was written before the Bible and was treasured by the early Christians.

 

[B-A-C]

It still is worth reading. It was written before the Bible and was treasured by the early Christians.

Before the old testament... No. Before the New testament yes. "Treasured"... hmmm.. known by them, yes. Treasured by them.. ? (speculation).

 

[DieAmartyr]

Before the old testament... No. Before the New testament yes. "Treasured"... hmmm.. known by them, yes. Treasured by them.. ? (speculation).

The book of Enoch is in a class of its own among apocryphal books. It is by far the most important of them, as it guided many of the New Testament authors in their own writings. This book lines up with the rest of scripture and was highly esteemed by the early Christians.

 

[DieAmartyr]

Rev 20:10; And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Yeah I get that but it has not happened yet. Why? Because maybe he thought satan would change his ways. It also says


And he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years should be fulfilled; and after that he must be loosed a little season. Revelation 20:3

So which is it? And what is a " little season"?

 

[Sue D.]

That 'little season' is when it's realized that people Still turn away from God. And God saves them From satan. There was a remnant left and it looked like satan was going to win. But God proved that He was STill the most powerful.

And it's a good lesson for Us. People dabble with sin. They enjoy it. They seem to 'have it all'. But, Because they reject God's salvation -- they Loose Big Time in the End.

Sounds like you're arguing with Scripture. Why -- it's God's Word.