Is Homosexuality Abomible?

[revbrad]

''there is neither male nor female''?

If there is no male or female then homosexuality is OK?

I think you are just trying to get a response....but, in case you're not. What it means is we are all equal in Christ as opposed to what was prior. The Jews were the only ones with access before Christ.

 

[alisonangel]

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

[h=3]Galatians 3:23-25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Heb. 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

You seem to be basing everything on the laws God gave to Isreal. After Christ we are under grace, not the law. There are specific things in the New Testament we are told are sin. As for the rest, if you are a true, born again child of God the Holy Spirit will guide you.

If we are not under the law,God's law then the law against homosexuality does not apply.

 

[revbrad]

Do you believe intermarriage is wrong? Pork/Bacon? Tattoos?

I LOVE pork!

What does the Bible say about these things after Christ fulfilled the law?

 

[alisonangel]

I think you are just trying to get a response....but, in case you're not. What it means is we are all equal in Christ as opposed to what was prior. The Jews were the only ones with access before Christ.

Even Lesbians and homosexuals?

 

[revbrad]

If we are not under the law,God's law then the law against homosexuality does not apply.

Under the Mosaic law, no we are not judged accountable, but Paul wrote to the new testament church (After Christ) that it is sin

Stealing and murder were also wrong under the law, do you think they no longer are?

 

[alisonangel]

I LOVE pork!

What does the Bible say about these things after Christ fulfilled the law?

Nothing about been OK to eat Pork...as a rev you don't follow God's law?

 

[revbrad]

Even Lesbians and homosexuals?

God loves them just as much as anybody and once they are TRULY born again they will no longer be lesbians and sodomites

 

[revbrad]

Nothing about been OK to eat Pork...as a rev you don't follow God's law?

Yes, I do; the law He has written on my heart, not the one He gave Isreal

 

[alisonangel]

Under the Mosaic law, no we are not judged accountable, but Paul wrote to the new testament church (After Christ) that it is sin

Stealing and murder were also wrong under the law, do you think they no longer are?

Paul was repeating something from the OT to Israelites as Romans was written to Israelites not Christians.

Romans 1:7:To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 9:3:For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:4:Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

As for the question you asked? So now we are cherry picking what Laws to follow?

 

[alisonangel]

God loves them just as much as anybody and once they are TRULY born again they will no longer be lesbians and sodomites

Wait you contradict yourself!

How could God love them when ''the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God'' ?

Besides,if a Lesbian and homosexual stay the way they are in their sexual orientation ,God will not love them?

 

[alisonangel]

Yes, I do; the law He has written on my heart, not the one He gave Isreal

The law about eating pork was given in the OT...you are cherry picking...

 

[revbrad]

Paul was repeating something from the OT to Israelites as Romans was written to Israelites not Christians.

Romans 1:7:To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 9:3:For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:4:Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the
promises;

As for the question you asked? So now we are cherry picking what Laws to follow?

Paul was writing to the church at Rome (notice "called to be saints") these are born again christians, whether jew or gentile.

As for cherry picking...no. I follow what the Holy Spirit teaches me.

Some things were always sin, some things were given to Isreal to set them apart from other peoples. If you truly study the New Testament, asking the Holy Spirit to teach you and open your heart to Him you would have no need to ask many of these questions.

I wonder, are you just trying to get reactions from people?

Are you born again?

Have you 100% given your whole self to God?

 

[revbrad]

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[revbrad]

The law about eating pork was given in the OT...you are cherry picking...

It was for the jews living before grace because they were to be different and it was a health benefit

 

[revbrad]

Wait you contradict yourself!

How could God love them when ''the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God'' ?

Besides,if a Lesbian and homosexual stay the way they are in their sexual orientation ,God will not love them?

No contridiction......God loves them anyway just as he loved me and everyone when they were in sin......had I not accepted Him, He would still love me but a just and Holy God will not alow sin to enter in

 

[alisonangel]

Paul was writing to the church at Rome (notice "called to be saints") these are born again christians, whether jew or gentile.

As for cherry picking...no. I follow what the Holy Spirit teaches me.

Some things were always sin, some things were given to Isreal to set them apart from other peoples. If you truly study the New Testament, asking the Holy Spirit to teach you and open your heart to Him you would have no need to ask many of these questions.

I wonder, are you just trying to get reactions from people?

Are you born again?

Have you 100% given your whole self to God?

Paul was writing to Israelites - they were called saints.

Paul makes it clear who his kinsman are...

Romans 9:3:For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:4:Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Why do you imply Paul was wrong?

What was always a sin?

Born again?

 

[alisonangel]

It was for the jews living before grace because they were to be different and it was a health benefit

Prove that pork is alright....

 

[alisonangel]

No contridiction......God loves them anyway just as he loved me and everyone when they were in sin......had I not accepted Him, He would still love me but a just and Holy God will not alow sin to enter in

If God loved them they would be able to ''inherit the kingdom of God''

 

[alisonangel]

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Romans 9:13:As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

God could not love all the world if he hated just one person could he?

 

[revbrad]

Paul was writing to Israelites - they were called saints.

Paul makes it clear who his kinsman are...

Romans 9:3:For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:4:Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Why do you imply Paul was wrong?

What was always a sin?

Born again?

If you will study you will find that christians are refered to as saints. A born again jew is a saint. I do not imply Paul was wrong...yes they were his kinsmen, yes they were jews and yes they were saints BECAUSE they were born again

Many things were always sin....stealing, murder, lust, fornication, sodomy and so on

If you do not know what born again is, the rest of this is mote

[h=3]John 3[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.