NoHype
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Nohype what do you think damnation means or unjust ? Cause what you say the wicked , unjust they get to be taught by the saints during the thousand years. That's not by no means a damnation that would be a blessing but according to you, to be taught Gods way is a damnation. That what you are say that because they are giving a new spirit body and are taught Gods ways then they are damned . The word teaches only of two resurrection, so when do you think the second resurrection is ? And what kind of resurrection is it ?
The idea of the "unjust" in Acts 24:15 by Apostle Paul means exactly that, those without Christ Jesus' Salvation. And it will include those like the "five foolish virgins" of Matt.25 also. It represents a separation apart from Christ and His elect saints in that future time. Remember what He said even about the 'unprofitable servant' of Matt.25 also.
As written in Isaiah 29, those who erred in spirit will come to understanding, and those murmured will learn doctrine, in that future time. And per our Lord Jesus in Rev.3:9, those of the "synagogue of Satan" will come to worship at the feet of Christ's elect in that time.
These things are written of in God's Word, in both the OT and NT Scripture, even about the separation of Christ's sheep and the goats that He Himself stated, the "synagogue of Satan" bowing, and Jesus closing the door on many who will say to Him, "Lord, Lord..." in that time. So why are you trying to test me as if these things were not witnessed of in His Word, and with your making up false witness as if I said stupid things like, "to be taught God's way is a damnation"?
If you believe all of the "unjust" or "resurrection of damnation" will go into the "lake of fire" at the end of Christ's thousand years reign, then you have been mistaught, and have not understood what Christ's thousand years reign prior to the new heavens and new earth timing is about.
Why did Apostle Paul declare a "hope" for those of the resurrection of the "unjust" per the Acts 24:15 Scripture? I assure you, Paul did not mean his "hope" for them to mean a hope of their destruction, but a hope that at least some of them might believe on Christ Jesus and be saved in that time!
So like Scripture so states, and I said before, BOTH, the "resurrection of life" and the "resurrection of damnation", of John 5:28-29 will occur on the same day of Christ's second coming. And they all will go through Christ's Millennial reign with His elect ruling over them with "a rod of iron" like both the Psalms and Revelation declares.
Sense you believe the wicked resurrection is at the same time as the saints but then you say they had no part in it. Little bit of common sense if the wicked are changed when the saints are then that means they were part of it .
No, what you say there does not make sense, nor does it align with Scripture even about the difference between men in the flesh today with those in Christ vs. those who refuse Him! Do you understand my statement about that? If you do not, then maybe you should re-study what being 'born again' of The Spirit is about that our Lord Jesus taught in John 3. You might also go back to Luke 16 and study up on the example of Lazarus and the rich man which Jesus gave, and also what He taught in the Matt.25 chapter about the separation between His sheep and the goats. You sound like a new babe, never having even read those Scriptures. Might look at the parable our Lord Jesus also gave about the one who tried to sneak into the wedding feast without a wedding garment that was then cast to the outer darkness.
The "first resurrection" is ONLY about those in Christ Jesus who overcame in Him, of both the OT and NT saints. It's about His elect who were not deceived, and remained faithful. It is NOT about those who professed Christ but then later fell away from Him to do iniquity like those who will say to Him, "Lord, Lord..." (Luke 13).
And resurrection of damnation means to be damned. Not to be taught Gods ways that's not being damned that is a blessing . But I see you hold the doctrine you been taught by man, cause if I had to bet you believe the one's that's cast in the lake of fire just get burned up and are no more instead of getting tormented for ever.
The "resurrection of damnation" is about being in a 'liable to perish' condition, still subject to the later "second death". That's what it means per God's Word, especially per Rev.20:6. But obviously, some like yourself want to try and re-define its meaning that does not align with that Scripture!
What YOU believe on the matter is from men and not God's Word!
There is NO destruction of those of the "resurrection of damnation" at Christ Jesus' second coming! Those of them that go into the "lake of fire" doesn't occur until the day of God's Great White Throne Judgment, and that is AFTER the "thousand years" of Rev.20 if you can read!
Instead, our Lord Jesus declares just the opposite of your men's doctrinal belief, (I refer to John 5:28-29 Scripture, and the Rev.20 evidence, and many other Scriptures like I quoted), which are Scriptures that you REJECT!
You do that rejecting of the written Scripture just so you can follow your OWN traditions, just like what the scribes and Pharisees did at Jesus' first coming!
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