Trinity

[Jonathan_Gale]

Go to the next chapter and you'll find two Yahweh's

Those two are two angels, not two YHWHs. I've heard in some interpretation in which those three men are the trinity, that's total hogwash. Those are God - and TWO ANGELS. Jesus is not an angel, he's God in human form.

 

[Butch5]

Those two are two angels, not two YHWHs.

Really? Angels are called Yahweh?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Really? Angels are called Yahweh?

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. - Gen. 19:1

Since when are two angels exalted as YHWH? An angel is merely a messenger, a fellow servant of YHWH.

 

[Butch5]

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. - Gen. 19:1

Since when are two angels exalted as YHWH? An angel is merely a messenger, a fellow servant of YHWH.

Read on. And Yahweh rained down brimstone and fire fromYahweh in Heaven.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Read on. And Yahweh rained down brimstone and fire fromYahweh in Heaven.

Yeah, YHWH did that, the two angels conveyed that messege to Lot, that's their job - they are heavenly messengers!

 

[Butch5]

Yeah, YHWH did that, the two angels conveyed that messege to Lot, that's their job - they are heavenly messengers!

The Yahweh on earth called down brimstone and fire from the Yahweh in Heaven. That's two.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

The Yahweh on earth called down brimstone and fire from the Yahweh in Heaven. That's two.

No, that's one. No, there's only one not two. Read Gen. 19:24-25. I don't even know what the hell are we arguing, why can't we just take the bible as what it says, man?

Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens. So He overthrew those cities, all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground.

 

[Butch5]

No, that's one. No, there's only one not two. Read Gen. 19:24-25. I don't even know what the hell are we arguing, why can't we just take the bible as what it says, man?

Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens. So He overthrew those cities, all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground.

We have one Ushweh on And one in Heaven. That'd two.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

We have one Ushweh on And one in Heaven. That'd two.

You're making stuffs up out of thin air, man.

 

[PloughBoy]

Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. - Gen. 19:1

Since when are two angels exalted as YHWH? An angel is merely a messenger, a fellow servant of YHWH.

Wow, where did all these updates come in for God is giving out new assignments even for Angels, he used to be Immutable. Now he has change.

New International Version
Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those Who Will Inherit Salvation?

New Living Translation
Therefore, angels are only servants—spirits sent to care for people who will inherit salvation.

English Standard Version
Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

Berean Standard Bible
Are not the angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Berean Literal Bible
Are they not all ministering spirits, being sent forth for service for the sake of those being about to inherit salvation?

King James Bible
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

New King James Version
Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

But you have said he has change, and angel are what now?

An angel is merely a messenger, a fellow servant of YHWH.

WOW a new assignment and everybody is agreeing, WOW!

What else been updated in "Christianity"?

 

[Butch5]

You're making stuffs up out of thin air, man.

Yahwey on earth had just dined and conversed with Abraham. Abraham could see and touch Yahweh. John said no man has seen God at any time and Paul said no one can see God. If we have one Yahweh that can be seen and one that can't be seen, we have two different Yahwehs.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

WOW a new assignment and everybody is agreeing, WOW!

What else been updated in "Christianity"?

Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.” - Rev. 22:9

Yahwey on earth had just dined and conversed with Abraham. Abraham could see and touch Yahweh. John said no man has seen God at any time and Paul said no one can see God. If we have one Yahweh that can be seen and one that can't be seen, we have two different Yahwehs.

YHWH went back at the end of ch. 18:

So the Lord went His way as soon as He had finished speaking with Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place. Gen. 18:33

Yes, no one can see God and yet live because God is in heaven, his human form is HIS PRESENCE on earth, that doesn't mean that there're two YHWHs. A human form is necessary in order to communicate with humans. If I talk with you on Facetime or on Zoom, there's only one of me on the screen and on the other end of the line simultaneously, not two of me.

 

[PloughBoy]

I do declare Christianity is get more interesting every day, New stuff coming in, I guess God and Jesus is learning stuff from humans now. WOW

 

[PloughBoy]

Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.” - Rev. 22:9


YHWH went back at the end of ch. 18:

So the Lord went His way as soon as He had finished speaking with Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place. Gen. 18:33

Yes, no one can see God and yet live because God is in heaven, his human form is HIS PRESENCE on earth, that doesn't mean that there're two YHWHs. A human form is necessary in order to communicate with humans. If I talk with you on Facetime or on Zoom, there's only one of me on the screen and on the other end of the line simultaneously, not two of me.

Ok, I do not care how you paint God Ok, you can put a tail on him if you want too, I got my belief and you got yours. we are two different people with different brains, I got my God and you got your God, no different than the people in the Old Testament we all got our own GOD, We in the 21 century believes in our own GOD, everybody has a different GOD in this day and age, we do not believe in the same God anymore,
and everybody claiming their god is the right one, day in and day out year after year same augment,
and that is the truth,

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Ok, I do not care how you paint God Ok, you can put a tail on him if you want too, I got my belief and you got yours. we are two different people with different brains, I got my God and you got your God, no different than the people in the Old Testament we all got our own GOD, We in the 21 century believes in our own GOD, everybody has a different GOD in this day and age, we do not believe in the same God anymore,
and everybody claiming their god is the right one, day in and day out year after year same augment,
and that is the truth,

Aren't we talking about angels? Since when did I paint new portrait of God? Maybe you should talk with @Butch5 who came up with this idea of two YHWHs, not me.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I do declare Christianity is get more interesting every day, New stuff coming in, I guess God and Jesus is learning stuff from humans now. WOW

Yeah, you're here (deleted) with me, while Satan is upending everything God had created and persecuting our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I don't find it interesting. I find it SAD.

 

[PloughBoy]

Aren't we talking about angels? Since when did I paint new portrait of God? Maybe you should talk with @Butch5 who came up with this idea of two YHWHs, not me.

the Bible States there is only "One LORD" and There's "ONE GOD" and "One PARAKLETOS" and all three is In agreement.

But every one of us in this day and age, None of us have the Same "LORD" if it is One "LORD" there is Only One Command and His commands are not in disagreements, every body is in Disagreements none us can come into any agreement in Christ. we cannot come in agreement "One Parakletos"

Can no one of us come into any kind agreements in Christ, But we are on one Accord in worldly things, but not into the things of GOD. we all have separated and gone our own way.

We are not in Christ together we all are nothing but strangers and fight and try our best "To LORD" over one another, and we all call our selves "CHRISTIANS".. LOOK into the Mirror, deep down in our Soul, how much Christ is in there. are You FULL, is Christ Manifested in Your soul. not on your lips.

I know I am not like him, I know I am evil nothing but a sinner being shaped and molded, every moment, until my change come. then I will be just like him,
Then I will see Him as he is. I am Not Christ Like, I am a sinner saved By grace, I still am, a sinners I am not a christian, But when I see him. I will be ChristLike!

 

[PloughBoy]

Yeah, you're here (deleted) with me, while Satan is upending everything God had created and persecuting our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I don't find it interesting. I find it SAD.

what make you even thing that satan do anything to GOD? I see you do not understand who God is. Jesus created Satan by speaking. because His Father told him. and ar weak Angelis more powerful Than Satan. Who do you think is going to tie him up with a chain and lock him up for a Thousand years? A mere weak Angel. you did read your bible?

Why do christians think that God is at war with Satan, Satan is GOD's servant too. You did read your bible?
People have do not know who God or Jesus is anymore, they thing The devil gives him and His Son problems this is sad, real sad,

and you talking about me , you have no idea who the Son or the Father.is. wow The devil is only a weak angel who The father gave him some power to do The Father's will.

 

[PloughBoy]

No wonder everybody is going to ISLAM, when Christians believe that God is at war with the devil, and Jesus Is The Devils Creator and Lord, and the Devil and demons do everything Jesus tell them to do. Do anybody read their bibles anymore?

Lord please hurry up, and get me out from these people

Jonathan_Gale said:
Yeah, you're here (deleted) with me, while Satan is upending everything God had created and persecuting our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I don't find it interesting. I find it SAD.

You might not believe the word of God but some of us do!

God's will is always Done, All his plans are right on time just Like He planned all before the foundations of The world. He has declare the Beginning to The very end. The devil and all creation works for him. he planed it all, He decreed it all, even the death of his own SON by his design.

 

[PloughBoy]

The Anti Christ is Here and Powerful and sitting up shop.

and Our redemption Draws near. and The few will wave good bye, and we will see you all, in 7 years, so mark your calendars and look for our Arrival, from the sky.