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What if you die tonight?

Exactly, that's NOT Trinitarian.... "ways" ... The Doctrine of the Trinity demands the use of the word "Persons" (three persons).

If need be PLEASE let us move this to a PM. At this point, I cannot reply to any further posts on the Trinity.

The witness of God is two . The eternal will of the father demonstrated in the Son of man (the temporal seen) . It is greater than the witness of man "one". . no vision, no faith that could please God .

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is (as it is written) the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
 
Such a beautiful perspective. I believe that death is not the end of your life, it's another beginning. As it has been said that "Death is only a door to eternal life" and God has also emphasized on this fact that our current life is temporary. No matter how much satisfied/happy we are in this world, we had to leave it one way or other. And once we leave this temporary world, the real journey of faith begings.
I also understand that death is a very scary thing to imagine. It's not easy to accept. But I also realize that God will help me no matter what. If he has been helping me here when I'm alive, he would also be helping me in the other world.
One more thing is to be kind and be forgiving as much as you can. In this way, even if you die a sudden death, you wouldn't leave this world with a heart full of guilt and sadness.
 
Such a beautiful perspective. I believe that death is not the end of your life, it's another beginning. As it has been said that "Death is only a door to eternal life" and God has also emphasized on this fact that our current life is temporary. No matter how much satisfied/happy we are in this world, we had to leave it one way or other. And once we leave this temporary world, the real journey of faith begings.
I also understand that death is a very scary thing to imagine. It's not easy to accept. But I also realize that God will help me no matter what. If he has been helping me here when I'm alive, he would also be helping me in the other world.
One more thing is to be kind and be forgiving as much as you can. In this way, even if you die a sudden death, you wouldn't leave this world with a heart full of guilt and sadness.
You have spoken a great lie and truth at the same time. Our fate in Eternity is decided here and now. You speak as if you believe everyone goes to Heaven but almost everyone will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire, dying eternally, the death that never ends. Man is a Spiritual Being, contained in the Carcass of a man that was born dying. The Spirit does not expire when the body dies and this is a subject worthy of study for you to undertake.
 
Such a beautiful perspective. I believe that death is not the end of your life, it's another beginning. As it has been said that "Death is only a door to eternal life" and God has also emphasized on this fact that our current life is temporary. No matter how much satisfied/happy we are in this world, we had to leave it one way or other. And once we leave this temporary world, the real journey of faith begings.
I also understand that death is a very scary thing to imagine. It's not easy to accept. But I also realize that God will help me no matter what. If he has been helping me here when I'm alive, he would also be helping me in the other world.
One more thing is to be kind and be forgiving as much as you can. In this way, even if you die a sudden death, you wouldn't leave this world with a heart full of guilt and sadness.
God created us as eternal beings. And as the scripture states, our physical bodies are nothing more than the temple of the Holy Spirit.

Think of the Ark of the Covenant, it is special yet only the container.

So to, your body is special, but only the container of who you really are.

So when the body dies, you are released from its bonds. Your actions, your allowing Jesus to work in you. Will be judged.

And there is a heaven and there is a hell
 
You have spoken a great lie and truth at the same time. Our fate in Eternity is decided here and now. You speak as if you believe everyone goes to Heaven but almost everyone will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire, dying eternally, the death that never ends. Man is a Spiritual Being, contained in the Carcass of a man that was born dying. The Spirit does not expire when the body dies and this is a subject worthy of study for you to undertake.
Death is the end of dying. Daily we suffer the pangs hell the wage of sin leaning towards an end never to rise to new spirit life. Yoked with Christ our suffering the pang of hell is made lighter with a future living hope of rising on the last day under the Sun..
 
Death is the end of dying. Daily we suffer the pangs hell the wage of sin leaning towards an end never to rise to new spirit life. Yoked with Christ our suffering the pang of hell is made lighter with a future living hope of rising on the last day under the Sun..
The body is only the shell of who you really are. The physical body is only the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Who you really are soul Spirit mind as one. Created in the image of God the trinity
 
The body is only the shell of who you really are. The physical body is only the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Who you really are soul Spirit mind as one. Created in the image of God the trinity
Created in the image of God as a duality. Dynamic dual.

together they bring the peace of God that surpasses our human understanding .Him giving us His understanding of faith .

Two represents the work of the Father and Son
 
Created in the image of God as a duality. Dynamic dual.

together they bring the peace of God that surpasses our human understanding .Him giving us His understanding of faith .

Two represents the work of the Father and Son
No.

Man is not equal to God. There is no duality.

God created us in His image. We are not Him.

We are a trinity within ourselves, mind , heart , soul .

As Jesus said, Love God with all your heart with all your mind and with all your spirit.
 
That'd be O.K. I've got no reason to stay here in pain. If I knew FOR SURE I'd die in my sleep tonight, I'd go to bed NOW and get it over with. There's a whole eternity with HIM to look forward to.
Always live today as if it was your last.

Always do good for others. Forgive those who trespass against you.
 
No.

Man is not equal to God. There is no duality.

God created us in His image. We are not Him.

We are a trinity within ourselves, mind , heart , soul .

As Jesus said, Love God with all your heart with all your mind and with all your spirit.
I did not say the Son of man Jesus is equal to the eternal Father. The witness of God is two. The Father not seen working in the Son of man Jesus seen.
 
I did not say the Son of man Jesus is equal to the eternal Father. The witness of God is two. The Father not seen working in the Son of man Jesus seen.
"Created in the image of God as a duality. Dynamic dual." Is what you said.

"Hear Oh Israel, our God is One"
 
Death is the end of dying. Daily we suffer the pangs hell the wage of sin leaning towards an end never to rise to new spirit life. Yoked with Christ our suffering the pang of hell is made lighter with a future living hope of rising on the last day under the Sun..
You do have Biblical References, right? I find that YHWH has provided all of the information we can ever need and Ruah, a.k.a. The Holy Spirit, interprets it for the believers. Without Scriptural Support, we have one Sinner teaching other Sinners what he/she wants to be true. The Holy Scriptures, Rev. 21:8, Matt. 10:28, Rev. 20:14 and about 100 other verses, Scripture teaches you are in error.
 
You do have Biblical References, right? I find that YHWH has provided all of the information we can ever need and Ruah, a.k.a. The Holy Spirit, interprets it for the believers. Without Scriptural Support, we have one Sinner teaching other Sinners what he/she wants to be true. The Holy Scriptures, Rev. 21:8, Matt. 10:28, Rev. 20:14 and about 100 other verses, Scripture teaches you are in error.

yes I have biblical reference .

There is no sufferings in the grave as if God was not a God of mercy but is a God of vengeance suffer forever


Living in a body of death we suffer the wage of sin .Yoked with Christ our sufferings the pangs of hell is lighter with a living future hope of raising up and receiving the propmised new incorruptible body

Its appointed once that is dying a person will come to an end .Then second death is the death of death itself according to the letter of the law Thou shall not or you will die . . .the letter kills every day

The letter along with its sufferings the pang of hell will be tossed in the fiery judgment. Death never to rise will not condemn to death another entire creation . Again the death of death along with its sufferings the pangs of hell will not raise up

It seems to be the catholic that have extended the sufferings after one takes their last breath to develop the doctrine of wondering , wondering ,wondering . No faith .

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
 
Death is the end of dying. Daily we suffer the pangs hell the wage of sin leaning towards an end never to rise to new spirit life. Yoked with Christ our suffering the pang of hell is made lighter with a future living hope of rising on the last day under the Sun..
The flesh dies but the soul is eternal. We were created as Eternal beings.

In Scripture it states that are flush is only the temple the Holy Spirit. What we are is within inside of the Flash we are not the bones we are not the muscle we are not the tendons that is only the Temple of the Holy Spirit what is within us which is our soul goes on it moves on from this place that we call Earth to God in it's all with the judgment either we go beyond to Paradise or we go to hell one of the two.

Scripture states that everything that we have done throughout our lifetime will be judged.

And I think that for those who have been given much in the concept of becoming Christians. That everyone who is Christian will be judged more severely than those who are not Christian.

Paul writes in the scripture saying that for the pagans, that those who follow the law written in their heart are open to God's grace.

We should not ever begrudge others who come to the Lord, even though they do not come in a traditional way. It simply isn't our call to judge.

I figure I better quote to you the scripture that I'm talking about because you guys are terrible about not knowing scripture when it's read to you. You always have to be given a scripture verse otherwise you have no clue what's being read.

So if you go to Romans 2 versus 13 through 15

" for instance, pagans who never heard the law but are led by reason to do what the law commands, may not actually possess the law, but they can be said to be the law. They can point to the substance of the law engraved in their hearts- they can call a witness, that is, their own conscience- they have accusation and defense, that is their own intermental dialogue.

As you can see there is an opening for those who are pagans that follow the law of God.

There is an additional portion to that same reading that goes on in the next paragraph

It is trying to explain what a real Jew is and it's not talking about the Jews as a race it's talking about who are the people of God.

Romans 2:28 and 29

To be a Jew is not to look like a Jew and the circumcision is more than a physical operation. The real Jew is one who is inwardly a jew, and the real circumcision is in the heart- something not of the letter but of the spirit. Would you like that may not be praised by man, but he will be praised by God.

Now I've heard it told to me that this is actually talking about Jews but it is not talking about Jews as far as those of the nation of Israel. What it is talking about is us and the pagans and everyone else whose heart is circumcised because the person whose heart is circumcised is what God wants, is the person that God wants you to become.

And as the scripture States he will be praised by God
 
The witness of God is two . The eternal will of the father demonstrated in the Son of man (the temporal seen) . It is greater than the witness of man "one". . no vision, no faith that could please God .

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is (as it is written) the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Matthew 3:16-17


16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.

17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

One God = three persons
 
God created us as eternal beings. And as the scripture states, our physical bodies are nothing more than the temple of the Holy Spirit.

Think of the Ark of the Covenant, it is special yet only the container.

So to, your body is special, but only the container of who you really are.

So when the body dies, you are released from its bonds. Your actions, your allowing Jesus to work in you. Will be judged.

And there is a heaven and there is a hell
I respect your opinion but differ from some of it, respectfully. They are confusing and doesn't align with the teachings of Bible (as far as I have learned).
 
I respect your opinion but differ from some of it, respectfully. They are confusing and doesn't align with the teachings of Bible (as far as I have learned).
Then your Bible is a lot different than mine.

Try looking up the phrase Temple of the Holy Spirit.
 
I respect your opinion but differ from some of it, respectfully. They are confusing and doesn't align with the teachings of Bible (as far as I have learned).
After 32 years of study and teaching the scriptures, I will say that while I might have structured your presentation to sound more Texan but will, with glee, stanjd on your word, unto the death of this worn out 77 year old carcus. Bill is presenting opinions without verse and/or cyhapter. That form of scriptre runs straght into heresy and YHWH will, forever damn that form of unglorifying dscussion.
 
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