Dear
@Butch5
Just because I, others, on the site disagree with your position, have we not heard you out here?
My suggestion to you is to step, back and away from this thread/topic. Unless you can stop yourself from making such comments.
People in the world have no problem insulting God, we as Christians insult Him too, but usually in a different manner. I would say compliance. However, your intelligence and knowledge of the Word, as such should have you above making those type of comments, so to me (Moderator) you have no excuse for doing so.
Actually, you for all extensive purposes you did. Let's see...reread what you wrote.
What is the implication, even after what I have told you what eternity is for and that is to know God, and Jesus Christ.
I've been respecting what you have been saying, because you believe it, by the reasoning/intellect given by God to you to have and use.
So, as I have said, I have heard you out. Yet you've crossed a boundary, maybe invisible to you, since it is all an exercise for you as far as I can tell.
I don't ask for an apology, but I do ask that you do not repeat this manner of speech in order to make a point you feel needed to be made. Resist the temptation!
lol - I do hope he accepts, and even is willing to video tape it to be viewed! I am sure you are made of sterner stuff and is why I shared it with you.
Note: Monies not needed for YouTube.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC (Hopefully)
Nick
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Nick,
I didn't mention this before because I has hoped we debate the subject on its merits. However, since it's come up
I could also say the same but have refrained from doing so. If what I said is blasphemy then how isn't the claim you guys have been making in this entire thread?
Is something not blasphemy simply because a lot of people believe it?
I don't see how what I said is blasphemy, but if it is how is it any different thanwhat you guys are arguing?
I mean the idea that God consists of three persons? Since we're talking about blasphemy let's break it down. Paul said there is one God the Father and Jesus said theFather is th only true God. God says He is God and there is no other. He says He is God Almight. The doctrine you guys are arguing for says no. There's not one almighty, there are three.
From the Athanasian Creed
"Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller;
in their entirety the three persons
are coeternal and coequal with each other."
Nothing is before or after. Three equal almighties.
Beside the fact that that's impossible. Almighty means All Mighty, not partially mighty. It puts two others on equal footing with the Father who both Paul and Jesus say is the only God.
So I ask, is it blasphemy to give God's glory others?
Jesus said to the Apostles, the time is coming when you will worship the Father in spirit and in truth.
However, in the doctrine we have three coequals who are worshipped.
I ask, is it blasphemy to worship anyone other than God?
Remember, Both Jesus and Paul said there is one God and it's the Father.
The Trinitarian has a conundrum here. Does he believe Scripture, the words of Jesus and Paul, or does he reject them. If he accepts them then he's faced with the problem that the doctrine blasphemes God. If he rejects them in favor of the Trinity, he's rejecting the God he serves, unless of course he doesn't believe the Bible is God's word in which case he has no dilemma.
The doctrine robs God of His glory and it diminishes Christ's sacrifice.
I mean, you may think what I posted is blasphemy, I don't. But, if it is, which do think God the Father would rather see? A ridiculous statement or people giving His, honor, glory, and worship to others?
And no one can equivocate here with the word God. Because both Jesus and Paul said the one God is the Father. So worship, glory, and honor, to anyone else is not to the Father.
And, this is in addition to all of the other issues I've posted.