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What is the difference between the Rapture and the Second Coming?
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Better trust in the Lord's word than the many teachers who teach jesuits fantasies refined by visions from mentally ill levitating occultist none believers; who's " visions" directly contradict the word of God.:laugh:
Well yes, that is the correct order of events
He shall come then he shall gather us
Catch us up to be with him at his coming.
I believe you are talking to your spirit-led teachers
Like I said show me in scripture[/QUOTE]
Your not an independent dont worry about it,
You listen to God and not to men who teach jesuit fantasies refined by the " visions" of levitating occultist none believers who's doctrines and "visions" directly assault and defy the word of God.
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Yeah, He comes to gather His betrothed Bride and take her to His Father's house for the wedding. Then He and His Bride come to dwell in their new home: Jerusalem, where they rule and reign over the nations for 1000 years.
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Your not an independent dont worry about it,
You listen to God and not to men who teach jesuit fantasies refined by the " visions" of levitating occultist none believers who's doctrines and "visions" directly assault and defy the word of God.
[/QUOTE]Amen ,
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Your not an independent dont worry about it,
You listen to God and not to men who teach jesuit fantasies refined by the " visions" of levitating occultist none believers who's doctrines and "visions" directly assault and defy the word of God.
Amen ,
LOL!
Two peas in a pod!
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LOL!
Two peas in a pod!
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Can u please show me the scripture that says independent
spirit ?
Or is this just something someone, or spirit told u ?
Or maybe u can tell me what
1 John 2:27 says.
Let's test to see if what you say,or someone told u about independent spirit is true,
Let's test it by his word
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="Ophel, post: 267364, member: 20259"]Here is all you need:
Pentecostal Lighthouse Church: The Dangers of an Independent Spirit[/QUOTE]
Thats what I thought a follower of men.
So u have no scripture.
Well what does 1 John 2:27 say?
Pentecostal Lighthouse Church: The Dangers of an Independent Spirit[/QUOTE]
Thats what I thought a follower of men.
So u have no scripture.
Well what does 1 John 2:27 say?
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Absolutely not! I am a follower of Jesus Christ and His word. What I posted is based on the word. You appear to be more interested in what you think, than what God thinks. If you refute what I have offered as an easier way of presenting the problem with people who separate themselves from the Body of Christ, then let's see a cogent argument.
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Here is proof the man of sin does indeed come before the Lord's coming and our being gathered together to be with him.
This is about things in prophecy foretelling things to come to pass BEFORE THE LORDS COMING
AND AS SUCH AGRESS WITH SCRIPTURE, UNLIKE JESUIT FUTURISM WHICH DENIES THE TRUTH OF GOD.
No one man ruled for 1260 years nor did one man rule for 42 months
NO ONE MAN RULED FOR 1260 YEARS, NOR DID ONE MAN RULE FOR 42 MONTHS
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space
DOMITIAN IS THE EMPEROR THAT IS, OR WAS IN THE TIME JOHN RECEIVED THE PROPHECY.
THE ANGEL SAYS TO JOHN …AND ONE IS
So we see that Emperor Domitian was a literal fulfilment of the Little Horn Prophecy, In that he was literally the 11 king.
Yet he was only a type of antichrist, as the full rule of the little horn was to be for a time, times and half a time, which using a biblical example we know means 1 year , two years and half a year, or three and a half years, which is 42 months and also 1260 days.
So although Emperor Domitian was the literal 11 king of Rome, and so the little horn, the little horn was to rule for 1260 prophetic days of years, which means it was to rule for 1260 years. This is the one part of the prophecy than neither Domitian nor any one man could fulfil.
Yet it was fulfilled in the form of the 8th king described by St John who came after Domitian and after Nerva. The one who was the 8 king yet was one of the seven.
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space
That beast was the 8th , yet of the seven , of the seven being most shown in Domitian’s antichrist evil persecution of the early church that st john, who wrote the book of revelation, was a fellow member of and sharer in the sufferings of.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Revelation 17:10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.
As no one man could fulfil the prophecy of the little Horn
Literally, for no man can live for 1260 years, we have to understand that this little horn was showing the spirit of antichrist and how it would infect the world to rise in great power in the rulers of the Roman Emperor.
That the Prophecy of Daniel which describes the little horn is a double prophecy in that is factually points to 11 Emperor of Rome Domitian, who fulfilled every one of the ascribed atrocities of the horn, but one. God, by presenting this prophecy half fulfilled in Domitian, is showing us that the prophecy is really talking about the spirit of antichrist, and how it affects this world and especially his church throughout the ages to come.
A whole new set of kings ruled over Rome in a very different way, and they ruled supreme for 1260 years to the day from 538 AD when Emperor Justinian gave them legal authority in Roman Law, to 1798 AD when by the command of Napoleon they were legally removed forever, making Italy a republic for the first time since 28 BC. The popes of Rome are that Beast King.
Papal seat
For a study on the papacy as the little horn go here
Who is the Antichrist? | Bible Study Guides | Amazing Facts
No one man ruled for 1260 years nor did one man rule for 42 months |
This is about things in prophecy foretelling things to come to pass BEFORE THE LORDS COMING
AND AS SUCH AGRESS WITH SCRIPTURE, UNLIKE JESUIT FUTURISM WHICH DENIES THE TRUTH OF GOD.
No one man ruled for 1260 years nor did one man rule for 42 months
NO ONE MAN RULED FOR 1260 YEARS, NOR DID ONE MAN RULE FOR 42 MONTHS
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space
DOMITIAN IS THE EMPEROR THAT IS, OR WAS IN THE TIME JOHN RECEIVED THE PROPHECY.
THE ANGEL SAYS TO JOHN …AND ONE IS
So we see that Emperor Domitian was a literal fulfilment of the Little Horn Prophecy, In that he was literally the 11 king.
Yet he was only a type of antichrist, as the full rule of the little horn was to be for a time, times and half a time, which using a biblical example we know means 1 year , two years and half a year, or three and a half years, which is 42 months and also 1260 days.
So although Emperor Domitian was the literal 11 king of Rome, and so the little horn, the little horn was to rule for 1260 prophetic days of years, which means it was to rule for 1260 years. This is the one part of the prophecy than neither Domitian nor any one man could fulfil.
Yet it was fulfilled in the form of the 8th king described by St John who came after Domitian and after Nerva. The one who was the 8 king yet was one of the seven.
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space
That beast was the 8th , yet of the seven , of the seven being most shown in Domitian’s antichrist evil persecution of the early church that st john, who wrote the book of revelation, was a fellow member of and sharer in the sufferings of.
11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Revelation 17:10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.
As no one man could fulfil the prophecy of the little Horn
Literally, for no man can live for 1260 years, we have to understand that this little horn was showing the spirit of antichrist and how it would infect the world to rise in great power in the rulers of the Roman Emperor.
That the Prophecy of Daniel which describes the little horn is a double prophecy in that is factually points to 11 Emperor of Rome Domitian, who fulfilled every one of the ascribed atrocities of the horn, but one. God, by presenting this prophecy half fulfilled in Domitian, is showing us that the prophecy is really talking about the spirit of antichrist, and how it affects this world and especially his church throughout the ages to come.
A whole new set of kings ruled over Rome in a very different way, and they ruled supreme for 1260 years to the day from 538 AD when Emperor Justinian gave them legal authority in Roman Law, to 1798 AD when by the command of Napoleon they were legally removed forever, making Italy a republic for the first time since 28 BC. The popes of Rome are that Beast King.
Papal seat
For a study on the papacy as the little horn go here
Who is the Antichrist? | Bible Study Guides | Amazing Facts
No one man ruled for 1260 years nor did one man rule for 42 months |
First of all I never said I wasn't part of the body , u said that .
And scripture says the hand can't tell the foot its not part of the body.
You are contradicting scripture and refuse to read what 1st
John2:27 says , cause it says
what I said that I was not taught
by no man , but by the Holy Ghost.
I never said I didn't believe in the body of Christ (the church) and never said I wasn't part of it
You said that about me cause I don't except the lies that man taught you.
Now you would be so kind as to post what 1st John 2:27 says
Then try to tell me that I wrong for saying Christ taught me by his Spirit.
And scripture says the hand can't tell the foot its not part of the body.
You are contradicting scripture and refuse to read what 1st
John2:27 says , cause it says
what I said that I was not taught
by no man , but by the Holy Ghost.
I never said I didn't believe in the body of Christ (the church) and never said I wasn't part of it
You said that about me cause I don't except the lies that man taught you.
Now you would be so kind as to post what 1st John 2:27 says
Then try to tell me that I wrong for saying Christ taught me by his Spirit.
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No one disputes that the man of sin comes before Jesus' return. Our gathering to be with Him is another issue, and is not necessarily to be lumped in with the second coming. However, those who will be gathered to Him at the second coming will be the Jews who will be here during the Tribulation, and who will receive their Messiah during that era.
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The little horn is not one man
For no one man ruled for 42 months
And no one man ruled for 1260 years.
The little horn persecutes the saints
The saints cannot be persecuted by the little horn
For 1260 years if they are raptured already or gathered already!
So this Proves scripture is right and jesuit rapture is wrong.
For no one man ruled for 42 months
And no one man ruled for 1260 years.
The little horn persecutes the saints
The saints cannot be persecuted by the little horn
For 1260 years if they are raptured already or gathered already!
So this Proves scripture is right and jesuit rapture is wrong.
People know that when jesus came he did not overthrow rome straightaway
So when people read the book of Daniel why do they revert to unspiritual thinking?
We know the fourth beast of the Prophecy of Daniel is ROME
we know this because GOD SAYS: IN THE DAYS OF THE TEN KINGS
He will set up his kingdom on earth.
We know that under the first of those ten kings, jesus was born,
Under the second of those ten kings, jesus was crucified .
And we further have confirmation that the church will still be on earth under the 11 king
For it will persecute the saints
It will do other things also
And we know that that 11 king was Emperor Domitian literally
But we understand also that the little horn has to be the spirit of antichrist coming in full persecutive power
For no one man can rule for 1260 years, and we know the persecution of the early and later church lasted longer than 42 months.
And we also know that EMPEROR DOMITIAN WAS THE ONE KING THAT IS
IN JOHNS DAY , TWO MORE WERE TO COME AFTER HIM
THE LAST BEING THE 8 th king
which is the beast itself. And also one of the seven. That being had a name of blasphemy on its head, and also one of the seven, most illustrated by having the same evil antichrist spirit as displayed by Domitian.
And that 8th KING WAS THE PAPACY
AND IT ALONE FULFILLED THE ONE THING THAT OTHERS DID NOT
IT KILLED FAR MORE THAN ANY ROMAN EMPEROR
And it was OF THAT BEAST OF DANIEL
ROME!!!
AND ITS RULE WAS EXACTLY FOR 1260 YEARS
1260 years under it's MONARCH, THE POPE.
So when people read the book of Daniel why do they revert to unspiritual thinking?
We know the fourth beast of the Prophecy of Daniel is ROME
we know this because GOD SAYS: IN THE DAYS OF THE TEN KINGS
He will set up his kingdom on earth.
We know that under the first of those ten kings, jesus was born,
Under the second of those ten kings, jesus was crucified .
And we further have confirmation that the church will still be on earth under the 11 king
For it will persecute the saints
It will do other things also
And we know that that 11 king was Emperor Domitian literally
But we understand also that the little horn has to be the spirit of antichrist coming in full persecutive power
For no one man can rule for 1260 years, and we know the persecution of the early and later church lasted longer than 42 months.
And we also know that EMPEROR DOMITIAN WAS THE ONE KING THAT IS
IN JOHNS DAY , TWO MORE WERE TO COME AFTER HIM
THE LAST BEING THE 8 th king
which is the beast itself. And also one of the seven. That being had a name of blasphemy on its head, and also one of the seven, most illustrated by having the same evil antichrist spirit as displayed by Domitian.
And that 8th KING WAS THE PAPACY
AND IT ALONE FULFILLED THE ONE THING THAT OTHERS DID NOT
IT KILLED FAR MORE THAN ANY ROMAN EMPEROR
And it was OF THAT BEAST OF DANIEL
ROME!!!
AND ITS RULE WAS EXACTLY FOR 1260 YEARS
1260 years under it's MONARCH, THE POPE.
