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who was on earth that would find Cain and kill him?

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@Admon -- believe it or not , I've been doing more researching about the Gap theory -- there are many articles about it. One in particular is called "What is the Gap Theory (the ruin and reconstruction theory) . Lots of reason Pro and lots of reasons Against it. Hope you'll take time to find and read it.
 
@Admon -- believe it or not , I've been doing more researching about the Gap theory -- there are many articles about it. One in particular is called "What is the Gap Theory (the ruin and reconstruction theory) . Lots of reason Pro and lots of reasons Against it. Hope you'll take time to find and read it.
Is it a book? A website? If it's a website, maybe you could message me the url?
 
Peoples are still essentially fruit of the church of Rome and they uphold mediaeval doctrines from over a thousand years ago.
They are full of doctrinal and scriptural contradictions, which often raise complex problems for the truth of scripture and of history.
Worse the very people who deny evolution and insist doggedly that God created Adam and Eve only want to espouse evolution as the means of generating the diversity of human races and types plus the enormous population
of humankind in only 4,000 years (Noah's Flood > began approximately 4,359 years ago in the year 2,348 BC).
But in 2,348 BC we already have civilizations and history in India and China and Egypt (The pyramids of Giza are already a thousand years old by now).

Where did Cain get his wife from? He married a woman who was living with her kind in the land of Nod.
And human beings did not evolve from Adam and Eve, nor from just Noah's family.


We Do uphold Bible doctrine. It IS God's infallible Word to us.

Genesis tells us that God Did in fact create Adam and Eve -- this world started out that way -- we Also had a world-wide flood that wiped out everyone except Noah and his wife and family -- they were the only righteous people at that time. Everyone else was exceedingly wicked. After the flood -- they continued to have children and repopulated the earth. But the earth was in a very different scenario as a result Of the flood. We ended up with the Grand Canyon and the oceans, all sorts of beauty in nature.

This world is approximately 6 - 10,000 years old.

And we Also know that Adam and Eve lived 960 yrs. they had Many, Many children over that span of time. The land of Nod was in the eastern part of the garden. Over all those years their kids gravitated over there since that's where Cain got his wife -- they were all sisters and brothers who got together as they matured. They had children and their children had children.

"her" kind were her brothers and sisters who Also went over to the land of Nod.

Just follow what God's Word tells you. :)
 
@Admon -- I just typed the Title in Google and it came up with no problem. It's pretty straight forward to read.
 
Just follow what God's Word tells you. :)
I do. Which is why I know what you write is not true to scripture nor to history and science.
You simply ignore the many good debating points and evidence that others write and simplistically keep on reciting "what God's word tells you" -
well scripture certainly does not tell me that God created the world and all that is in it in 144 hours, nor formed Adam and Eve before he rested on the 7th period of time, nor does scripture tell me that Cain married his sister,
nor does scripture tell me that humankind evolved from several people.
And yet you keep clinging to doctrinally and historically nonsensical ideas without any deep thought as to how any of what you believe is credible.
 
We Do uphold Bible doctrine. It IS God's infallible Word to us.

Genesis tells us that God Did in fact create Adam and Eve -- this world started out that way -- we Also had a world-wide flood that wiped out everyone except Noah and his wife and family -- they were the only righteous people at that time. Everyone else was exceedingly wicked. After the flood -- they continued to have children and repopulated the earth. But the earth was in a very different scenario as a result Of the flood. We ended up with the Grand Canyon and the oceans, all sorts of beauty in nature.

This world is approximately 6 - 10,000 years old.

And we Also know that Adam and Eve lived 960 yrs. they had Many, Many children over that span of time. The land of Nod was in the eastern part of the garden. Over all those years their kids gravitated over there since that's where Cain got his wife -- they were all sisters and brothers who got together as they matured. They had children and their children had children.

"her" kind were her brothers and sisters who Also went over to the land of Nod.

Just follow what God's Word tells you. :)
We Do uphold Bible doctrine. It IS God's infallible Word to us. TRUE

Genesis tells us that God Did in fact create Adam and Eve -- this world started out that way -- we Also had a world-wide flood that wiped out everyone except Noah and his wife and family -- they were the only righteous people at that time. Everyone else was exceedingly wicked. After the flood -- they continued to have children and repopulated the earth. But the earth was in a very different scenario as a result Of the flood. We ended up with the Grand Canyon and the oceans, all sorts of beauty in nature. TRUE

And we Also know that Adam and Eve lived 960 yrs. they had Many, Many children over that span of time. The land of Nod was in the eastern part of the garden. Over all those years their kids gravitated over there since that's where Cain got his wife -- they were all sisters and brothers who got together as they matured. They had children and their children had children. VERY PROBABLY TRUE

This world is approximately 6 - 10,000 years old. NO WAY TO KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE AT THIS TIME.. we cannot give an age to the Earth by the use of eugenics
 
We Do uphold Bible doctrine. It IS God's infallible Word to us.
This world is approximately 6 - 10,000 years old.
NO you do not uphold Bible doctrine you uphold Roman Catholic teaching from the mediaeval period that once put the Sun at the centre of the solar system and believed the world was flat.
Earth is ancient and if you were a student of your Bible you would come across a few verses that use the word ancient to describe mountains and other creation events.
God does not use evolution to generate the various types of human beings on each continent - they were all created in Genesis 1.
The story of Adam and Eve is a genealogical creation that would create the pathway for our Saviour and Redeemer to come into the world.
Where does God teach us of evolution?
 
@Waggles -- you Do seem to Be 'waggling' your tongue -- so to speak.

I do NOT follow any RCC teachings of any kind.

I've been a student of the Bible my entire life and I'm in my 70's.

Yes, Adam and Eve were the first created people by God. But They had nothing to do with the line that Christ came through.

Noah and his family came through the flood and started repopulating this world. Jesus Christ came through the line / lineage of David.

Before the flood, the world was pretty much flat -- people traveled long distances fairly easily. The flood changed the features of this world greatly. Created the oceans that separated the various continents. The people spread out due to the tower of Babel. That's when languages were created , by God, that's where all the various people groups came to be.
 
I do. Which is why I know what you write is not true to scripture nor to history and science.
You simply ignore the many good debating points and evidence that others write and simplistically keep on reciting "what God's word tells you" -
well scripture certainly does not tell me that God created the world and all that is in it in 144 hours, nor formed Adam and Eve before he rested on the 7th period of time, nor does scripture tell me that Cain married his sister,
nor does scripture tell me that humankind evolved from several people.
And yet you keep clinging to doctrinally and historically nonsensical ideas without any deep thought as to how any of what you believe is credible.


What Bible are you reading.

God's Word IS The Truth. He gave us Genesis because it is the book of 'beginnings'.

It IS credible because it IS God's Word.
 
@Waggles -- you Do seem to Be 'waggling' your tongue -- so to speak.
I do NOT follow any RCC teachings of any kind.
I've been a student of the Bible my entire life and I'm in my 70's.
Yes, Adam and Eve were the first created people by God. But They had nothing to do with the line that Christ came through.
Noah and his family came through the flood and started repopulating this world. Jesus Christ came through the line / lineage of David.
Before the flood, the world was pretty much flat -- people traveled long distances fairly easily. The flood changed the features of this world greatly. Created the oceans that separated the various continents. The people spread out due to the tower of Babel. That's when languages were created , by God, that's where all the various people groups came to be.
Your propositions just keep on getting more silly and you do contradict Bible teaching.
The genealogy of Jesus does indeed go back to Adam
Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself, when he began, was about thirty years old, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, of Hēlei,
Luke 3:31 of Melea, of Menna, of Mattatha, of Natham, of David,
Luke 3:38 of Enōs, of Sēth, of Adam, of God.

"Before the flood the world was pretty flat" - wow do you have photos of this in your album?
" that's where all the various people groups came to be" that is not in scripture and you are preaching evolution again.
 
It IS credible because it IS God's Word.
So why do you not believe it? Why do you keep reciting out of date church theology?
This teaching that Genesis is six 24 hour days - where does that come from? Who first taught this?
Why must it be a 24 hour day even before the making of the Sun and Moon??
 
What Bible are you reading.

God's Word IS The Truth. He gave us Genesis because it is the book of 'beginnings'.

It IS credible because it IS God's Word.
I agree Sue...Gods Word is final authority in everything...It's "In God we trust." Not "In pope we hope."
 
DAY in the Hebrew from Genesis 1
H3117 יום yôm
BDB Definition:
1) day, time, year
1a) day (as opposed to night)
1b) day (24 hour period)
1b1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
1b2) as a division of time
1b2a) a working day, a day’s journey
1c) days, lifetime (plural)
1d) time, period (general)
1e) year
1f) temporal references
1f1) today
1f2) yesterday
1f3) tomorrow
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to be hot
 
S'ok my friend...I found it.
Ok This one is good on the pro side but wrong on the con side....https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_654.cfm

You know? I haven't even looked at the science side of this yet...What does science say...I mean besides the evolution junk?

This one incorporates science into the mix and you get pure stupidity.....https://reluctant-messenger.com/gap-theory.htm
 
DAY in the Hebrew from Genesis 1
H3117 יום yôm
BDB Definition:
1) day, time, year
1a) day (as opposed to night)
1b) day (24 hour period)
1b1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1
1b2) as a division of time
1b2a) a working day, a day’s journey
1c) days, lifetime (plural)
1d) time, period (general)
1e) year
1f) temporal references
1f1) today
1f2) yesterday
1f3) tomorrow
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to be hot
Waggles you lost me here....Is there a point to this post?
 
That which I was referring To was that Jesus Christ was from the tribe of Judah which was part of the 12 tribes of Israel / Jacob -- the Jewish culture.

The flood of Noah's day found in Genesis 7: 11 - " In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. vs 12 And the rain was on the earth 40 days and 40 nights. vs 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered.
vs 20 The waters prevailed 15 cubits upward, and the mountains were covered."

Where do you think the Grand Canyon came from or the oceans.

As those verses indicate -- the earth experienced a great up-heaval.

God's Word gives us a very good verbal picture. Neither of us were there to take pictures.

The geneology you're refering to shows us that the world started out with Adam and Eve being the very first people.

But we Also have the 12 tribes of Israel / Jacob had 12 sons through 4 different wives. Jacob's name was changed to Israel. Thus we have the Children of Israel. Judah being one of those 12 / the Jews. Jesus Christ was born into the Jewish culture.

Looking at Matthew 1:! The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham. vs 2 Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Judah and his brothers."
Then go to vs 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are 14 generations, from David until the captivity in Babylon are 14 and from the captivity unto the Christ are 14 generations.

Jesus Christ was of the tribe of Judah and the line of David which is included in the Luke 3 genealogy.

but it was After Adam and Eve were dead and gone. It was through Noah and his family that the line of people continued.
 
Ok This one is good on the pro side but wrong on the con side....https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_654.cfm

You know? I haven't even looked at the science side of this yet...What does science say...I mean besides the evolution junk?

This one incorporates science into the mix and you get pure stupidity.....https://reluctant-messenger.com/gap-theory.htm


Well -- considering that you're a very Pro Gap theory -- of Course you'd find it wrong on the 'con' side.

One of the problems with the Gap theory is that a person can make it as Long as they want to put Anything into it they want to.

The existance of the Nephilin -- the mighty men of valor -- would be a solution to the piramids that exist, etc. No need For a Gap theory.

And another thought -- since sin and thus , death, entered the world Because of Adam and Eve -- how / why could another civilization have existed and then died off. Everyone born Before them would have still been alive at that time. And Where would those people have come From? And that's where the evolutionist could put / have put in the supposed development from 'ape/ chimp' to human beings. But there are No missing links. Monkeys/ chimps are still being born and 'we' are still being born. Have been all along. Chimps/ monkeys Do produce within their own kind. And people are not part of that "kind'.

And there Are those who believe that the Aborigineese look different enough that they Could, Maybe be an off-shoot of 'something'.

Evolution is evolution // science is science. And when put to the test -- science ends up agreeing with Bible.
 
Peoples are still essentially fruit of the church of Rome and they uphold mediaeval doctrines from over a thousand years ago.
They are full of doctrinal and scriptural contradictions, which often raise complex problems for the truth of scripture and of history.
Worse the very people who deny evolution and insist doggedly that God created Adam and Eve only want to espouse evolution as the means of generating the diversity of human races and types plus the enormous population
of humankind in only 4,000 years (Noah's Flood > began approximately 4,359 years ago in the year 2,348 BC).
But in 2,348 BC we already have civilizations and history in India and China and Egypt (The pyramids of Giza are already a thousand years old by now).

Where did Cain get his wife from? He married a woman who was living with her kind in the land of Nod.
And human beings did not evolve from Adam and Eve, nor from just Noah's family.

Human like all creatures are made after their own kind . There is no evolovinig . Adam and Eve are the progentors of the human race.
 
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